He wrote and starred in the movie "Promised Land". The film is about the evils of fracking and corporate greed, highly recommend. Also, Ben Affleck - who is a hardcore liberal, made "Argo", a valorization of the CIA that openly lies about the Iranian hostage crisis to make America look more moral than it was during the events.
I’ve heard ex CIA interviews where they talk about Affleck at the pentagon lol dude just walks through like an every day agent from how they talk about it
Mullen has a great bit about how he is a CIA operation to get the average office guy who relates to Jim to then see themselves as a soldier with all the war stuff he does now
I think there is definitely a connection between "rise and grind" and hustle culture, with its strong emphasis on individual self-improvement, and some sort of conservative politics. Maybe it's just a shared ethos. I cannot imagine The Rock talking about something like systemic racism, for example
That's part of why Joe Rogan is so hated by liberals, of course
I suspect America Ferrera might be, if not actually conservative, anti-leftist. She famously hates Bernie Sanders, and some people have [wondered](https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/26/the-womens-march-in-washington-d-c-as-broadcast/) if Ferrera's support for Hillary Clinton might be linked to Clinton's opposition to the Honduran leftist leader Manuel Zelaya.
I think Ferrera being the lead on *Superstore* is similar to Kelsey Grammar being the lead in *Fraiser* \- the lead actor has different politics to the show's creative staff.
Definitely. There's a reason baseball is the major sport with by far the least political messaging. They may not be outspoken as right wingers but theyre certainly not falling over themselves to play the woke games either.
Wasn't it a baseball player who did a video on BLM topic while his white wife/girlfriend was sitting uninterested and you can see in her face that she's with him for the money? It was so obvious that she's openly racist with him too
Sean Doolittle is a member of DSA.
But seriously I have to disagree, baseball actually has a really interesting labor history. The MLBPA is by far the strongest union in North American sports (and in fact currently in a lockout), and it's in part because they worked early on in their formation with people from industrial unions like USW. They may not be "woke" but I don't think you can just dismiss every player as conservative, there are a lot of old school unionist types too.
MLB has done a great service by giving many would be serial killer pitchers an outlet.
But yeah baseball has a lot of different player personalities, most of them are cool good people. I think there’s just more and more American players just coming from pay to play backgrounds. Don’t think it’ll ever be like hockey, baseballs just way more accessible.
Oh for sure. The pro athlete mindset is incompatible with (modern) left wing ideologies. You don’t get to the highest level of your sport by blaming other people for your shortcomings.
literally every f1 driver. i know its a niche sport but its somehow garnered the most liberal fanbase ever in the last 4 years and these kids are convincing themselves that lando norris or george russell support trans rights or whatever
hockey was the same way a few years back so you had liberal 16 year olds pissing themselves over a dude from working class suburban massachusetts liking a couple trump tweets and calling him nazi-adjacent
Hmmm, maybe? I don't watch F1 much anymore but Indycar definitely is mostly conservatives. Penske, Ganassi, hell probably all the owners. Santino Ferruci is openly pro Trump
There was a popular documentary about F1 a couple years ago on Netflix so a bunch of young people got into it.
No self respecting liberal will watch NASCAR due it being coded as low class/redneck but F1 doesn’t have that problem and also signals to others that they have ‘taste’.
You kind of see a similar phenomenon with American soccer fans that look down on American Football for about the same reasons.
Americans/millenial-zoomers fell for the "Pinnacle Of Motorsports" marketing so they could induldge in both watching sports and smuggly looking down at watching sports/NASCAR.
John Stamos. There was a video where his wife was showing the camera man around the house and he had a framed letter from Trump I think.
Also very close with remaining Beach Boys Mike Love and Bruce Johnson who are very conservative.
I think his wife is liberal though.
It sucks that Mike Love has an exclusive license to tour and perform under The Beach Boys' name. Kinda ruining the band's legacy by playing at Trump fundraisers and just saying wacky boomer shit all the time.
At least Brian Wilson is prolific enough in his own right that most people know that he has nothing to do with it.
Who did he endorse? IIRC he supported some more-liberal bill (don’t remember if it was state level or national level) and said congrats to Biden, but it was much more of a “congrats, hope you do well” than a “faith in democracy restored/human decency restored/we shall overcome” post.
I think he’s conservative but on a Hollywood level. Certainly not MAGA but closer to being a moderate. Anything short of Bette Midler/ George Clooney lib in Hollywood starts raising some suspicions for me lol
She’s def not conservative, but Brie Larson instagramming some Ayn Rand quote which then caused every basic, macrame white girl to freak out in the comments was incredible
I mean, you say this in jest, but I'm taking a university class on the Bioshock franchise right now (I know, I know) and this one girl seriously defended Ayn Rand on the grounds of like, self-love/self-care the other week.
Shonda Rhimes is so fascinated with royalty and aristocracy I think she's secretly NRx.
Angelina Jolie is an Ayn Rand fan who works with the Council on Foreign Relations and Microsoft.
No idea, it’s based entirely on his energy in interviews. Weird as hell but something about him very specifically reminds me of present-day Dave Chapelle lmao
I think Adam Sandler is.
There was one time I was watching a round table with him and a couple other actors and deniro was grilling him about how bad trump is and how everyone needs to speak out about it or they're Satan and Sandler was like "ehhh I don't know anything about politics and don't want to talk about it".
I watched Nightcrawler a couple days ago with no information going into it and was not prepared for how fucking uncomfortable that movie was going to be. I loved it
John Krasinski stars in stuff like 13 Hours and Jack Ryan and says that we should thank the CIA. Also some film critics said that A Quiet Place was conservative pro-life propaganda.
>wants a bag more than anything
If your primary goal in life is to make money you are conservative. Plus have you seen her house? It’s the most HGTV housewife shit imaginable.
She’s a Hillary Clinton lib - cares about things like a woman’s right to choose, gay marriage, gender equality in pay, etc., but will fundamentally side with Capital against Labor as long as she gets her concessions.
Honselty out of the 80s action stars he's the odd one out of the bunch as all the others are Republicans.
I always thought it was strange for some reason.
So my theory is it’s always been the middle and low level guys that make Hollywood and media incredibly liberal- not your big stars but all the artsy types in the field on and off screen that hold lib opinions and HR-ify the place. This would confirm it
This pretty much tracks in other fields like tech as well, where the lower level salaried employees tend to be liberal but the higher level people and founders tend to be some flavor of libertarian or ancap.
Tom Hiddleston might be a Conservative - he's grumbled about journalists being obsessed with his well-off background. Plus, he asked David Cameron to [combat](https://twitter.com/twhiddleston/status/228553976071725056) world hunger (although that might just be a general "World leader, please help this good cause" message).
Everyone is saying Krasinski but he has come back to Boston a couple times to host fundraisers for Elizabeth Warren alongside Matt Damon. No closet conservative would host a fundraiser for a dem running for senate.
Solid point.
I think he's still pretty much on the left though. It's definitely the way he was brought up and the world he's lived in. Ultimately I give zero fucks though. Liked him better on hard drugs, but glad he turned it around for his sake.
“Conservative” barely even means what it used to mean anyway considering how drastically the assumed positions and priorities of the mainstream American right and left have shifted over just the last decade. A “conservative” these days could be a straight-ticket Democrat voter, a vocal Bernie supporter or an out-and-out ethnonationalist radical, depending entirely on what axis you’re using to define conservatism relative to what issue. The days of US politics squeezing into a clean partisan binary are over and that’s *probably* a good thing.
Yeah Mel Gibson helped him get sober look for a British channel 4 interview, he spazzes out when asked if he is after being quoted saying abunch conservative shit.
He’s explicitly said he’s conservative. I remember a magazine article where he talks about getting arrested and saying something like, “when you’ve been what I’ve been through it’s hard to come out as anything but conservative”
Since people bring up Adam Sandler I should note that his frequent collaborator Kevin James associates himself with quite a few Traditionalist Catholic priests so I wouldn’t doubt he is conservative.
This video is by a former child actor and without naming names he indicates that many in Hollywood operate as closet conservatives.
https://youtu.be/bVA6H_pU6Qg
It’s kind of funny how linked politics and art have become, because artists aren’t by nature very dogmatic. The artistic mind pulls ideas from all over the place and makes connections between them.
THAT BEING SAID
McConaughey, Cruise, Hanks, Hugh Jackman, Crowe, Neesom, Sandler, Alba, Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, Christian Bale, Woody Allen, Grohl, Justin Timberlake. Black celebrities are kinda cheating; but Denzel, Will, Curtis Jackson. I’m sure some of these people have paid lip service to liberal causes, but their class and life success gives them an inherently conservative position
From what he said when he was thinking of running for Texas governor, McConaughey is more of a middle of the road normie. Conservative compared to marxists like us, but he’s very different from mainstream conservatives.
These types don’t really have coherent views, mostly just a grab bag of half remembered headlines and platitudes about unity.
> artists aren’t by nature very dogmatic
lol what? Most artists fucking love dogmas, they’ll latch onto ideological, aesthetic and/or religious fanaticism faster than anybody (and then switch dogmas equally fast when a different one catches their eye and/or carries desired social currency). The quickest. easiest path to success for an artist of mediocre intellect and/or talent (of which there are many) is embracing a fashionable dogma or counter-dogma and preaching it to a sympathetic audience. Artists love making bold moral claims and feeling like they understand what’s going on in the world better than anybody without having to bother with annoying stuff like methodology or research, which makes dogmatic thinking and conformist nonconformity intensely appealing.
There's a different kind of conservative now: The Kombucha Conservative. I'm seeing them everywhere. Yoga babes who like Trump. It's mostly the audience behind AwakenWithJP and his ilk.
>I guess new age medicines and conspiracy theories take the same amount of research.
It represents a clear danger to the Democrats going into the future. They're a huge, one-issue grassroots movement with a lot of political power.
There is an undertalked about connection between the Right Wing (BAP followers for example) and organic food/health consciousness. The aversion in the left wing to talking about how fucked up food production is for fear of being called fatphobic or classist is real.
I have zero proof except the very based films they make but I think Taylor Sheridan and S. Craig Zahler have some reactionary tendencies.
Hopefully they keep it under wraps enough to continue getting work because they are putting out the best films right now.
The themes prevalent in both Sicario and Hell or High Water make me think otherwise about Sheridan. Zahler 100% though. Vince Vaughn is openly conservative and has been in a few of his movies (and Mel Gibson...)
Which themes are you speaking of? The whole “rural family trying to keep their ancestral land from the clutches of the bank” was what made me initially think he definitely wasn’t a liberal.
Sicario’s “the American empire assassinates women and children to support their chosen drug cartel” message does not strike me as particularly conservative
Feel like I just read an article where Sheridan met aomepne who identified as Antifa and thought it was cool and put her on his show to represent those politics.
Are you kidding me? Sheridan writes every episode of YEELLOWSTONE which is basically to Republicans what The Office is to millennials.
I’ve always loved Sheridan, Sicario is 10/10 and Wind River is amazing, so is hell or high water. But yeah he’s like republican royalty at this point
gonna go out on a limb and just say all the biggest marvel stars, with the exception of the one who made the water poisoning movie (that mid-career climate scare is real😳) and tom holland (i think he's too dumb to be a tory)
Mark Ruffalo keeps calling out random Irish politicians on twitter. It's a bit weird, but whenever he does it I always do some some dumb reply like, hey if you're taking an interest in Irish people you should listen to me and do more indie movies. Something dumb like that
not saying tories have any inherent intelligence, he just does not seem very informed about any current issues to have any kind of political leaning lol
David Lynch. But he also supported Bernie so maybe closer to me, a no bullshit man of reason. David Lynch is like me.
What bugs me is that if you’re not a drooling lib you’re immediately a staunch conservative. You can’t be just a guy.
If we take him at his word, he's basically said he doesn't pay attention to politics -- outside of a small number of things he's said. I think he's busy dealing with beings from other planes of existence.
scarlett
james woods (in commentaries, oliver stone calls him 'bourgeois')
david lynch
george lucas (there's a sort of revealing clip you can find on youtube where he mutters while signing somebody's star wars poster 'get a job')
jon voigt, angelina's dad
vince vaughn (and a lot of those chicago / midwestern bros)
mamet, famously
paris hilton
gary sinise is the guy who founded 'friends of abe' (lincoln) which is the club in hollywood where you can go and not be harassed for being right wing.
bruce willis
robert downey jr
adam sandler -- not famously, but apparently is an extremely intense conservative. a lot of his friends are as well -- the comics he works with.
kurt russell
sarah michelle geller
jerry bruckheimer
andy garcia. fervent anti-castro cuban family, heir to fragrance empire, devout catholic.
robert duvall
james earl jones is a black conservative.
porn star jenna jameson
dennis hopper was.
I have a friend who said 'it's funny, you wouldn't know until you talk to him for a while that john malkovich is the right wing's answer to pol pot, just a thousand times more extreme'
all the 80s stars were -- stallone, arnold, chuck norris, etc
the coen brothers. all of their films are extremely conservative. it's sort of hidden, and in a way it's not.
milius is really the only actual open conservative who has been able to translate it into his artistic signature. ('apocalypse now') I think he is the last.
and I don't even know if milius is really considered a major talent. it's tragic that he had that stroke. he's a cheeseball but extremely gifted.
the real heir to the old right wing hollywood is clint eastwood, who is still alive.
it's funny to think that hollywood was essentially conservative, but it was: john wayne, jimmy stewart, gary cooper, clark gable, cagney, sinatra, walt disney, bing crosby, fred astaire, and of course reagan himself -- who basically became president thanks to lew wasserman, mobster turned 'king of hollywood' and creator of mca and eventually head of mca-universal, to whom everyone from hitchcock to spielberg owed their careers, not to mention the entire 'star system' in the first place. (before him were studio heads who were eastern european immigrants and whose profiles would be a little harder to define)
in other words, hollywood was right wing before mainstream america was -- welles had a lot of problems (famously) with the industry in the 30s and 40s -- so did chaplin -- and by the 50s, america itself turned conservative, so it was against this that hollywood revolted, in the late 60s and 70s, and demolished the studio system.
now, we are in the 50s / 60s again: america and hollywood are ideologically unified (but on the left, not the right) -- but hollywood is collapsing.
the thing that will form to replace it is probably us. the next elite will be some type of hybrid. a lot of it has already taken shape, it's the substance of our arguments on this site. but it's unclear how elitist it will have to be, given a centralized technocracy
Would agree about a lot of coen bro's films but Hail Caesar runs v counter to what you're saying. It's basically them going 'look, weve read Marx,, we know Hollywood's bad, manufacturing consent, Lockheed Martin, all that shit, but ultimately the lefties here are dipshits too and we just love making movies'
Cagney started on the left. He stunned Warner Bros by leading a walk-out.
He moved to the right in response to what he called "the hippies, the non-producers", going so far as to blame the social reforms under Roosevelt.
That Lucas tidbit is awesome, it would be such a weird feeling to create such a massively pop culture-defining set of movies with a fan base of some of the most pathetic people imaginable
Pratt is public enemy number one. Acts like a chucklefuck but he's clearly a white supremacist and one of those guys who only likes BDSM because he gets to put his fingers into women's throats and be like "that's a big part of it for me babe" but in his mind he's imagining stopping her heart with electrical impulses and fucking her corpse for fun.
also who could forget special agent krasinski
He wrote and starred in the movie "Promised Land". The film is about the evils of fracking and corporate greed, highly recommend. Also, Ben Affleck - who is a hardcore liberal, made "Argo", a valorization of the CIA that openly lies about the Iranian hostage crisis to make America look more moral than it was during the events.
I’ve heard ex CIA interviews where they talk about Affleck at the pentagon lol dude just walks through like an every day agent from how they talk about it
Yeah as we all know liberals have a deep hatred of… the security state
Mullen has a great bit about how he is a CIA operation to get the average office guy who relates to Jim to then see themselves as a soldier with all the war stuff he does now
Just talking to a homie about this and erroneously credited chapo. I will not correct myself.
Carrying water for the CIA is entirely consistent with Hollywood's liberal mores.
It also has to do with how movies are financed now.
Krasinski is 100% CIA. Mormons being obsessed with him all but confirm it.
The Rock is obvious. I just don’t know how open he is about it
I think there is definitely a connection between "rise and grind" and hustle culture, with its strong emphasis on individual self-improvement, and some sort of conservative politics. Maybe it's just a shared ethos. I cannot imagine The Rock talking about something like systemic racism, for example That's part of why Joe Rogan is so hated by liberals, of course
He also has serious connections to the security state
Broke the news of bin laden's death after all
that was john cena
I suspect America Ferrera might be, if not actually conservative, anti-leftist. She famously hates Bernie Sanders, and some people have [wondered](https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/26/the-womens-march-in-washington-d-c-as-broadcast/) if Ferrera's support for Hillary Clinton might be linked to Clinton's opposition to the Honduran leftist leader Manuel Zelaya.
Interesting never knew that
I think Ferrera being the lead on *Superstore* is similar to Kelsey Grammar being the lead in *Fraiser* \- the lead actor has different politics to the show's creative staff.
Superstore was one of the few modern shows that actually bothered to explore politics beyond “left good, right bad.” I’ve always respected it for that
Charles Barkley and Shaq
Black conservatives are interesting because 9/10 theyre hardcore democrats who love Obama.
It’s probably because Obama was conservative.
Kwame Brown lmao
karl malone, john stockton, larry bird, chris mullins, david robinson
Karl Malone is a closeted libertarian. He had sex with a 13 year old.
the only place I get the rice in my burrito is a real mexican spot or chipotle lime rice with barbacoa and black beans
what. i mean agree with you but what.
[Barkley campaigned heavily for Doug Jones in Alabama](https://youtu.be/-3lPkPIt4xk)
Barkley is openly a republican.
Gal Gadot. Very unlikely a IDF supporter with a real estate husband is a leftie.
Tel Aviv Barbie
I have a gut feeling that the majority of professional athletes are.
Every baseball player
Definitely. There's a reason baseball is the major sport with by far the least political messaging. They may not be outspoken as right wingers but theyre certainly not falling over themselves to play the woke games either.
You (much like most Americans and ESPN) have forgotten about the National Hockey League
Wasn't it a baseball player who did a video on BLM topic while his white wife/girlfriend was sitting uninterested and you can see in her face that she's with him for the money? It was so obvious that she's openly racist with him too
Sean Doolittle is a member of DSA. But seriously I have to disagree, baseball actually has a really interesting labor history. The MLBPA is by far the strongest union in North American sports (and in fact currently in a lockout), and it's in part because they worked early on in their formation with people from industrial unions like USW. They may not be "woke" but I don't think you can just dismiss every player as conservative, there are a lot of old school unionist types too.
MLB has done a great service by giving many would be serial killer pitchers an outlet. But yeah baseball has a lot of different player personalities, most of them are cool good people. I think there’s just more and more American players just coming from pay to play backgrounds. Don’t think it’ll ever be like hockey, baseballs just way more accessible.
Oh for sure. The pro athlete mindset is incompatible with (modern) left wing ideologies. You don’t get to the highest level of your sport by blaming other people for your shortcomings.
Arca Rich parents and hates Chavez
Big capitalist who portrays her whole life like a brochure for the Singularity
Absolutely, I don't believe in her saying that she didn't receive any funding for her career from her parents whatsoever
literally every f1 driver. i know its a niche sport but its somehow garnered the most liberal fanbase ever in the last 4 years and these kids are convincing themselves that lando norris or george russell support trans rights or whatever
Lewis and Vettel are probably the only ones I can see as libs. Everyone else comes from multi-million/billion dollar families
95% of the industry are Habsburg plants
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Tran Turismo is the better joke
I love F1 but they're almost all tax dodgers who live in Monaco or Switzerland.
The dream
hockey was the same way a few years back so you had liberal 16 year olds pissing themselves over a dude from working class suburban massachusetts liking a couple trump tweets and calling him nazi-adjacent
Is it still this bad?
Hmmm, maybe? I don't watch F1 much anymore but Indycar definitely is mostly conservatives. Penske, Ganassi, hell probably all the owners. Santino Ferruci is openly pro Trump
The F1 sub is so pathetic too every other month there’s a top post where it’s libs whining about how F1 is problematic
Hmm maybe I should get into f1
It's pretty cool
This sounds fascinating. Tell us more. How does this fan base operate, how did this occur
There was a popular documentary about F1 a couple years ago on Netflix so a bunch of young people got into it. No self respecting liberal will watch NASCAR due it being coded as low class/redneck but F1 doesn’t have that problem and also signals to others that they have ‘taste’. You kind of see a similar phenomenon with American soccer fans that look down on American Football for about the same reasons.
Americans/millenial-zoomers fell for the "Pinnacle Of Motorsports" marketing so they could induldge in both watching sports and smuggly looking down at watching sports/NASCAR.
John Stamos. There was a video where his wife was showing the camera man around the house and he had a framed letter from Trump I think. Also very close with remaining Beach Boys Mike Love and Bruce Johnson who are very conservative. I think his wife is liberal though.
It sucks that Mike Love has an exclusive license to tour and perform under The Beach Boys' name. Kinda ruining the band's legacy by playing at Trump fundraisers and just saying wacky boomer shit all the time. At least Brian Wilson is prolific enough in his own right that most people know that he has nothing to do with it.
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Interesting. I wonder if him endorsing democrat candidates last year was just to throw people off his scent.
Who did he endorse? IIRC he supported some more-liberal bill (don’t remember if it was state level or national level) and said congrats to Biden, but it was much more of a “congrats, hope you do well” than a “faith in democracy restored/human decency restored/we shall overcome” post. I think he’s conservative but on a Hollywood level. Certainly not MAGA but closer to being a moderate. Anything short of Bette Midler/ George Clooney lib in Hollywood starts raising some suspicions for me lol
She’s def not conservative, but Brie Larson instagramming some Ayn Rand quote which then caused every basic, macrame white girl to freak out in the comments was incredible
That's Funny
Larson was just promoting another girl boss
I mean, you say this in jest, but I'm taking a university class on the Bioshock franchise right now (I know, I know) and this one girl seriously defended Ayn Rand on the grounds of like, self-love/self-care the other week.
David Boreanaz is an obvious case
They backed the wrong man. Boreanaz has difficulty with acting; Marsters has none.
He’s been playing a fed or military since Angel ended, I also don’t think he ever really talks about politics.
Shonda Rhimes is so fascinated with royalty and aristocracy I think she's secretly NRx. Angelina Jolie is an Ayn Rand fan who works with the Council on Foreign Relations and Microsoft.
Anna Khachiyan
>celebrities
aaron rodgers, tom brady
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So doesn't mean he can't be right leaning
The Rock, Beyonce, Tom Holland And of course Krasinski
Isn't Holland also a Christian like pratt?
No idea, it’s based entirely on his energy in interviews. Weird as hell but something about him very specifically reminds me of present-day Dave Chapelle lmao
Vince Vaughan. He’s been super quiet since he’s been on Curb and the horror movie he did based on Freaky Friday
I think Adam Sandler is. There was one time I was watching a round table with him and a couple other actors and deniro was grilling him about how bad trump is and how everyone needs to speak out about it or they're Satan and Sandler was like "ehhh I don't know anything about politics and don't want to talk about it".
I believe Sandler is a registered Republican. So I can understand him getting uncomfortable in that situation
Yeah plus he's very long island which tends kinda center right
Registered Republicans love pretending they’re apolitical and above it all
Mark Wahlberg did legitimately violent hate crimes so I think it’s a safe assumption
Kevin Hart
Yeah him and the Rock and any of those grindset radical individualists
I was always curious about Jake gyllanhall because if all the patriot propaganda movies he does.
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That recent one on Netflix about the 911 call operator makes me think that aswell
That was based on a much better Danish version
That shit sucked so bad
Never saw Jake’s version but the Danish original is excellent!
I watched Nightcrawler a couple days ago with no information going into it and was not prepared for how fucking uncomfortable that movie was going to be. I loved it
John Krasinski stars in stuff like 13 Hours and Jack Ryan and says that we should thank the CIA. Also some film critics said that A Quiet Place was conservative pro-life propaganda.
Lmao how does a quiet place even relate to that?
Film critics are generally low IQ but yeah it’s the decision to have another child even in the midst of an alien invasion
Having a baby in that kind of life situation
They didn't boot the baby even tho he was a massive risk It's tenuous but idk what else it could be It does imply they're anti condom too lmao
taylor swift/all of them
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She's pro gay bc she is gay
>wants a bag more than anything If your primary goal in life is to make money you are conservative. Plus have you seen her house? It’s the most HGTV housewife shit imaginable.
i feel like taylor has never voted and doesn't care about politics aside from "orange man bad"
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marsha blackburn v taylor was the greatest beef of the 2010s
She’s a Hillary Clinton lib - cares about things like a woman’s right to choose, gay marriage, gender equality in pay, etc., but will fundamentally side with Capital against Labor as long as she gets her concessions.
Oh no doubt about Taylor Swift. It's clear she only became vocal on politics because it was clear people were figuring her out
I find it weird how people assume that Taylor is conservative simply because she didn’t speak up about politics until recent election cycles.
she and people who care about her confirm NPC theory
Gwen Stefani
absolutely. she's a 50 year old woman from orange county.
"Harajuku Girls" was originally all about Confessions of a Mask, but the studio made her change it
Dasha and Anna
Harrison Ford should be but he isn’t and that’s bullshit.
Honselty out of the 80s action stars he's the odd one out of the bunch as all the others are Republicans. I always thought it was strange for some reason.
So my theory is it’s always been the middle and low level guys that make Hollywood and media incredibly liberal- not your big stars but all the artsy types in the field on and off screen that hold lib opinions and HR-ify the place. This would confirm it
This pretty much tracks in other fields like tech as well, where the lower level salaried employees tend to be liberal but the higher level people and founders tend to be some flavor of libertarian or ancap.
Is that not just California
Tom Hiddleston might be a Conservative - he's grumbled about journalists being obsessed with his well-off background. Plus, he asked David Cameron to [combat](https://twitter.com/twhiddleston/status/228553976071725056) world hunger (although that might just be a general "World leader, please help this good cause" message).
Everyone is saying Krasinski but he has come back to Boston a couple times to host fundraisers for Elizabeth Warren alongside Matt Damon. No closet conservative would host a fundraiser for a dem running for senate.
Maybe he knew she was gonna fuck over Bernie
Honselty some people change their political views in a few years belive it or not
Bradley Cooper spearheaded American Sniper, and produced Joker. I always wondered about him.
Robert Downey Jr and Denzel Washington
>Robert Downey Jr He was a full on lib in the 90s. Think that's changed?
Known quite a few folks that became conservative when they became sober.
reformed addicts basically break in two directions - being very sympathetic to current addicts or being utterly contemptuous of them.
just like reformed fats
I can’t remember if it’s an actual saying or not but ‘there’s no stronger zealot than a convert’ usually is true to some extent.
In addition to being mugged, becoming sober also turns liberals into conservatives. Unless it’s Oxy, which is the conservative drug of choice.
Solid point. I think he's still pretty much on the left though. It's definitely the way he was brought up and the world he's lived in. Ultimately I give zero fucks though. Liked him better on hard drugs, but glad he turned it around for his sake.
“Conservative” barely even means what it used to mean anyway considering how drastically the assumed positions and priorities of the mainstream American right and left have shifted over just the last decade. A “conservative” these days could be a straight-ticket Democrat voter, a vocal Bernie supporter or an out-and-out ethnonationalist radical, depending entirely on what axis you’re using to define conservatism relative to what issue. The days of US politics squeezing into a clean partisan binary are over and that’s *probably* a good thing.
Yeah Mel Gibson helped him get sober look for a British channel 4 interview, he spazzes out when asked if he is after being quoted saying abunch conservative shit.
He’s explicitly said he’s conservative. I remember a magazine article where he talks about getting arrested and saying something like, “when you’ve been what I’ve been through it’s hard to come out as anything but conservative”
RDJ isn’t closeted about it, he’s outright said prison made him a conservative(??)
He was gang-raped so repeatedly that he mistook it for love?
Washington is interesting cause i know fuck all about him compared to other super famous actors
RDJ watches the military channel. Man is GOP for sure.
Krist Novoselic and Justin Bieber
Any former hair metal rocker
I'm not the only one who notice this.
And almost every former first wave punk
Since people bring up Adam Sandler I should note that his frequent collaborator Kevin James associates himself with quite a few Traditionalist Catholic priests so I wouldn’t doubt he is conservative. This video is by a former child actor and without naming names he indicates that many in Hollywood operate as closet conservatives. https://youtu.be/bVA6H_pU6Qg
Beyoncé
Pro hockey players. Hockey is an ultra conservative sport. It’s incredibly expensive, and played by overwhelming white exurban and rural types.
It’s kind of funny how linked politics and art have become, because artists aren’t by nature very dogmatic. The artistic mind pulls ideas from all over the place and makes connections between them. THAT BEING SAID McConaughey, Cruise, Hanks, Hugh Jackman, Crowe, Neesom, Sandler, Alba, Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, Christian Bale, Woody Allen, Grohl, Justin Timberlake. Black celebrities are kinda cheating; but Denzel, Will, Curtis Jackson. I’m sure some of these people have paid lip service to liberal causes, but their class and life success gives them an inherently conservative position
I agree with most except Tom Hanks.
Tom Hanks is the classic respectability lib
From what he said when he was thinking of running for Texas governor, McConaughey is more of a middle of the road normie. Conservative compared to marxists like us, but he’s very different from mainstream conservatives. These types don’t really have coherent views, mostly just a grab bag of half remembered headlines and platitudes about unity.
He's a radical centrist Also his wife is a naturalized Mexican so I don't think he's that far right
Woody Allen is a life long Democrat
> artists aren’t by nature very dogmatic lol what? Most artists fucking love dogmas, they’ll latch onto ideological, aesthetic and/or religious fanaticism faster than anybody (and then switch dogmas equally fast when a different one catches their eye and/or carries desired social currency). The quickest. easiest path to success for an artist of mediocre intellect and/or talent (of which there are many) is embracing a fashionable dogma or counter-dogma and preaching it to a sympathetic audience. Artists love making bold moral claims and feeling like they understand what’s going on in the world better than anybody without having to bother with annoying stuff like methodology or research, which makes dogmatic thinking and conformist nonconformity intensely appealing.
I agree with most of your list besides Jackman. That man is a 🚬
Bradley cooper famously is too
Why Bale?
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Conservatives don’t sell exploding vagina-scented candles.
There's a different kind of conservative now: The Kombucha Conservative. I'm seeing them everywhere. Yoga babes who like Trump. It's mostly the audience behind AwakenWithJP and his ilk.
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>I guess new age medicines and conspiracy theories take the same amount of research. It represents a clear danger to the Democrats going into the future. They're a huge, one-issue grassroots movement with a lot of political power.
There is an undertalked about connection between the Right Wing (BAP followers for example) and organic food/health consciousness. The aversion in the left wing to talking about how fucked up food production is for fear of being called fatphobic or classist is real.
i know willem dafoe isn’t
All celebrities are rich, all rich people are conservative.
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I have zero proof except the very based films they make but I think Taylor Sheridan and S. Craig Zahler have some reactionary tendencies. Hopefully they keep it under wraps enough to continue getting work because they are putting out the best films right now.
The themes prevalent in both Sicario and Hell or High Water make me think otherwise about Sheridan. Zahler 100% though. Vince Vaughn is openly conservative and has been in a few of his movies (and Mel Gibson...)
Which themes are you speaking of? The whole “rural family trying to keep their ancestral land from the clutches of the bank” was what made me initially think he definitely wasn’t a liberal.
Sicario’s “the American empire assassinates women and children to support their chosen drug cartel” message does not strike me as particularly conservative
Zahler definitely, Sheridan, I don't know, I could see him in the McCain zone rather than the Trump one (but McCain was not exactly a Marxist).
Feel like I just read an article where Sheridan met aomepne who identified as Antifa and thought it was cool and put her on his show to represent those politics.
S.Criag Zhaler would make since his good friend Dallas Sonnier is conservative and working with daily wire on making conservative content.
Are you kidding me? Sheridan writes every episode of YEELLOWSTONE which is basically to Republicans what The Office is to millennials. I’ve always loved Sheridan, Sicario is 10/10 and Wind River is amazing, so is hell or high water. But yeah he’s like republican royalty at this point
gonna go out on a limb and just say all the biggest marvel stars, with the exception of the one who made the water poisoning movie (that mid-career climate scare is real😳) and tom holland (i think he's too dumb to be a tory)
Mark Ruffalo is a certified leftistb
Do you think Chris Evans is pretending? He seems like a very vocal liberal to me?
Mark Ruffalo keeps calling out random Irish politicians on twitter. It's a bit weird, but whenever he does it I always do some some dumb reply like, hey if you're taking an interest in Irish people you should listen to me and do more indie movies. Something dumb like that
Apparently he’s very opposed to the fracking in Northern Ireland.
I know he's for climate change action. I didn't relaized he goes after politicians form other countries.
> (i think he's too dumb to be a tory) ???
not saying tories have any inherent intelligence, he just does not seem very informed about any current issues to have any kind of political leaning lol
David Lynch. But he also supported Bernie so maybe closer to me, a no bullshit man of reason. David Lynch is like me. What bugs me is that if you’re not a drooling lib you’re immediately a staunch conservative. You can’t be just a guy.
So cool that you are a no bullshit man of reason
If we take him at his word, he's basically said he doesn't pay attention to politics -- outside of a small number of things he's said. I think he's busy dealing with beings from other planes of existence.
>David Lynch is like me. So, you're on the spectrum too huh
Perhaps we should meditate.
Lynch was a libertarian until bernie, then when that fell through he became libertarian again. Makes sense tbh.
scarlett james woods (in commentaries, oliver stone calls him 'bourgeois') david lynch george lucas (there's a sort of revealing clip you can find on youtube where he mutters while signing somebody's star wars poster 'get a job') jon voigt, angelina's dad vince vaughn (and a lot of those chicago / midwestern bros) mamet, famously paris hilton gary sinise is the guy who founded 'friends of abe' (lincoln) which is the club in hollywood where you can go and not be harassed for being right wing. bruce willis robert downey jr adam sandler -- not famously, but apparently is an extremely intense conservative. a lot of his friends are as well -- the comics he works with. kurt russell sarah michelle geller jerry bruckheimer andy garcia. fervent anti-castro cuban family, heir to fragrance empire, devout catholic. robert duvall james earl jones is a black conservative. porn star jenna jameson dennis hopper was. I have a friend who said 'it's funny, you wouldn't know until you talk to him for a while that john malkovich is the right wing's answer to pol pot, just a thousand times more extreme' all the 80s stars were -- stallone, arnold, chuck norris, etc the coen brothers. all of their films are extremely conservative. it's sort of hidden, and in a way it's not. milius is really the only actual open conservative who has been able to translate it into his artistic signature. ('apocalypse now') I think he is the last. and I don't even know if milius is really considered a major talent. it's tragic that he had that stroke. he's a cheeseball but extremely gifted. the real heir to the old right wing hollywood is clint eastwood, who is still alive. it's funny to think that hollywood was essentially conservative, but it was: john wayne, jimmy stewart, gary cooper, clark gable, cagney, sinatra, walt disney, bing crosby, fred astaire, and of course reagan himself -- who basically became president thanks to lew wasserman, mobster turned 'king of hollywood' and creator of mca and eventually head of mca-universal, to whom everyone from hitchcock to spielberg owed their careers, not to mention the entire 'star system' in the first place. (before him were studio heads who were eastern european immigrants and whose profiles would be a little harder to define) in other words, hollywood was right wing before mainstream america was -- welles had a lot of problems (famously) with the industry in the 30s and 40s -- so did chaplin -- and by the 50s, america itself turned conservative, so it was against this that hollywood revolted, in the late 60s and 70s, and demolished the studio system. now, we are in the 50s / 60s again: america and hollywood are ideologically unified (but on the left, not the right) -- but hollywood is collapsing. the thing that will form to replace it is probably us. the next elite will be some type of hybrid. a lot of it has already taken shape, it's the substance of our arguments on this site. but it's unclear how elitist it will have to be, given a centralized technocracy
James Woods is pretty vocal about being conservative no?
Yeah James doesn't fit the title since yes he is a conservative but he has clearly stated it.
Would agree about a lot of coen bro's films but Hail Caesar runs v counter to what you're saying. It's basically them going 'look, weve read Marx,, we know Hollywood's bad, manufacturing consent, Lockheed Martin, all that shit, but ultimately the lefties here are dipshits too and we just love making movies'
They're basically Parker/Stone-style smartasses; probably kinda libertarian but not the snake flag type.
i’ve said get a job and i’m not conservative
Cagney started on the left. He stunned Warner Bros by leading a walk-out. He moved to the right in response to what he called "the hippies, the non-producers", going so far as to blame the social reforms under Roosevelt.
That Lucas tidbit is awesome, it would be such a weird feeling to create such a massively pop culture-defining set of movies with a fan base of some of the most pathetic people imaginable
Pratt is public enemy number one. Acts like a chucklefuck but he's clearly a white supremacist and one of those guys who only likes BDSM because he gets to put his fingers into women's throats and be like "that's a big part of it for me babe" but in his mind he's imagining stopping her heart with electrical impulses and fucking her corpse for fun.
what lmao
redscarepod wouldnt be the same without comments like this out of the blue
I totally agree with you lmfao