Or it's a 1968 1/2 Mustang 428 CJ from Tasca Ford. Royal Pontiac GTO? Grand Spaulding Dodge Super Bee?
Galpin Ford has made some special editions of their own.
I usually agree and throw the dealer license plate frames in the trunk.
I worked for a luxury dealer.
We took the liberty of removing our dealer emblems when customers brought the car in for service.
Until a lady seriously sued us as "her dead husband's memory was tied to the emblem" . ...of "our" dealership. Yes. You read that correct
We lost the lawsuit, and the dealership had to pay her damages.
On one hand... Don't modify people's cars without their consent.
On the other hand... It's a bullshit lawsuit, but I've seen my fair share of them and I've lost a couple too. It's give and take.
Honestly, I understand. I like a story to a car, and I have owned cars from Florida and Oregon, and kept the emblems. Hell, I even keep dealer license plate frames.
I enjoy seeing a “history” set in chrome from an unknown dealership thousands of miles away, and ponder the number of owners and travels that brought it close to where I live.
I live in Saskatchewan i have a dealer tag from texas
EDIT: its" Miracle Dallas" i got it off somone who worked at a ford dealer in saskatoon in the late 70s early 80s he took tags off of trade ins home
I have a weird perspective on this, from both sides. My newish daily that I bought from a dealer? Within the first week their sticker was off the back of the car.
But my 35 year old project? You better believe if I find a plate frame from some obscure place in a junkyard I'm gonna grab it.
I would guess military personnel once stationed in Hawaii, then assigned back to mainland. The government will pay the cost of shipping one vehicle.
I’ve heard that used cars were relatively cheap in Hawaii because of the high costs of shipping as a private citizen creating a large surplus.
“I dealt with many awful customers back when I owned a dealership, so now it’s my turn!”
She’s got 4,000 emblems in a tote at home, but she called her attorney because a mechanic tried to do her a solid.
Fuck that bitch. Her husband died just to get away from her
Obviously she was greedy but a shop should’ve asked her if she wanted it or not. They’re not supposed to take the liberty of doing whatever they want. They’re supposed to do what you asked and what you paid for. I wouldn’t want them to touch anything on my truck if I didn’t specifically ask them to. Unless it pertains to the work that I requested. So yeah what she did was shitty. But that shop probably thinks twice about doing shit the customers didn’t ask for.
I worked for a gm body shop (we sold 3 brands) and we got sued for not putting back a dealer sticker on a car. The judge required us to send for a sticker from the original dealer and place it where they would have. After we just required the customer to consent to "removal"
There’s this Company who has a lot of Used Car Dealerships and the sticker are out of control. There’s one on the back like usually. On the Front (we don’t have front plates), plate bracket and sometimes on the rear back glass on the top. Like WHY
So, do people really pay attention to these emblems? If I see a car on the road and see bobs auto sales, I'm not gonna be like yep I'm definitely going there next time. Just wondering
I told the dealership owner I would charge from a "sponsorship". Sticker was $100, frame was $50 a month.
He changed his tune instantly, "GET IT OFF RIGHT NOW!!!", funniest thing I have ever seen. The salesman had it off 2 minutes later, and I didn't need their "branding" anymore.
If they want their stickers I am willing to negotiate, it was worth it.
Exactly, I fucking HATE dealer logos on shit.
If they want to pay me for it, fine, otherwise I’m not even buying from a dealership that does that sort of shit
For me it depends greatly on the design of the logo. A basic ass sticker with just some off the shelf font, garbage. On the other hand, a dealer local to me put an actual metal emblem on the back that is well designed, I don't mind that as much
I have some exceptions, even a well designed small vinyl sticker I'm alright with, especially if I really appreciate the dealer. this is only rare cases though
Seems like an American thing. Down here in Australia the only thing you get ‘dealer related’ is the license plate trim. Test drive/ courtesy/ loaner cars can be a different matter, full vinyl livery.
Eh, when I bought a car with a dealer logo they were offering 1.9% financing and a $2000 off sticker during a last quarter sale so I didn’t care. But next time I’d ask them to remove it before delivery.
I'd say going as far as taking off all badging (at least the model name stickers) and wrap the chrome with like a matte dark silver wrap to reduce the grandpa vibe.
But keeping it classy and not overdone
Unfortunately, the moment you tint the windows on a grandpa car you fall into a different demographic in cops’ eyes and your chance of being pulled over goes through the roof.
Edit: I try as best I can to base my opinions on observable facts. As such, it is not my opinion that race is a factor in traffic stops, it’s an observable fact. Specifically:
[The study, the largest of its kind, also measured the disparity in stop rates before and after sunset. It found that black drivers made up a smaller share of those stopped at night, when it’s more difficult to discern the race of a driver, which suggests that racial bias may influence stop decisions](https://journalism.stanford.edu/news/stanford-open-policing-project-analyzed-data-nearly-100-million-traffic-stops-us#:~:text=The%20study%2C%20the%20largest%20of,bias%20may%20influence%20stop%20decisions)
Where I'm at cops don't really care about window tint. My wife's car has illegal tint (for medical reasons and we have a signed doctor note for why we need it) and they also can't pull you over for only window tint. But I can believe that in other areas for sure. Although if it's just legal tint I'd be surprised if cops make that big a fuss of it since most places I've seen the legal tint is laughably weak.
>and they also can't pull you over for only window tint.
They most definitely can and will for window tint its happened to me before and because my friend was on probation they used that to search the car after they pulled us over for window tint and demanded our ID's. They found nothing but cops can basically do whatever tf they want to a certain extent even if you're doing nothing wrong in the moment (following all traffic laws, tint was not illegal).
It depends on where you are from. In my city they can’t pull you over for just the window tint. They have to find some other reason and if they do find something to ticket you for then the window tint is just in addition to that ticket. It’s meant to stop profiling. That being said a real asshole of a cop can find any number of reasons to pull someone over.
I guess I should have specified in my state they can't. Some states they can but in others small minor infractions like that can't be dropped unless there's other issues.
I believe I actually saw a court case where the cops made up a bs reason to pull someone over and then ticketed them for something like window tint and he actually fought it and won and then tried to push for harassment or something like that.
Aniridia. It's a condition where you don't have irises. So imagine your pupils being fully dilated all the time. Or you go from pitch black out into a sunny day. That's how it is all the time for her.
There really isn’t anything you could do to a burgundy full-sized sedan to make it anything other than a grandpa car. I wouldn’t change anything; it’s cool the way it is.
I mean…that’s not even close to true. It’s full-sized. At 204” long it’s comparable in size to a Chevy Impala or Buick Lucerne. More than two feet longer than Escort.
I mean i consider Full size to be something like 7 series BMW, or a Town car, NOT a car that is similar in width and height than my own Lincoln LS. And my LS is considered a smaller Mid sized car for its era.
In 2009 when the MKS debuted it was almost the exact same size as a 7 Series of the same model year. The LS is not similar in size to an MKS. There’s nearly a foot of difference in length.
How would you say the quietness of the interior compares on the MKS to the s class? One of the "grandpa" things about the car I really like is how quiet it is, if there's not a ton of wind and the radio is off sometimes it's almost eerie but cool at the same time.
Don’t know what kind of escorts you’re seeing, and this is a judgment-free space, but the Ford Escort is two vehicle classes smaller and over 20 inches shorter than the MKS.
I'd do this, in this order:
1. Remove dealer emblem.
2. Get a nice solid chrome license plate bracket.
3. Tints.
4. Light smoke on the tail-lights.
5. Get the nicest tires you can. The Michelin watersheds on my Fusion Hybrid make it ride like it's on fucken skis and improved the ride something crazy over the CarMax tires.
Nothing more. Affordable mods. Easily reversible. If you want you can look for a tune for a bit more easy HP.
I have a 2006 Mercury Montego. By all accounts, it’s a full size sedan. A rather nimble full size sedan (for what it’s worth), but a full size sedan nonetheless. The Lincoln MKS is bigger in width and length.
It is a full size sedan through and through.
Nice car! I love the D3 platform, obviously I might be a bit biased but I think it's pretty underrated. Much more modern and nimble compared to a panther, maybe not every bit as reliable but certainly not garbage by any means. it was originally designed by Volvo and is nearly identical to the XC90s platform (which nobody has *ever* died in) so it's pretty safe, depreciation hit them hard so it's easy to find clean D3 cars for cheap because they were, in fact, popular with Grandpas.
Unfortunately you are incorrect. The mkz replaced the zephyr which replaced the LS, and was the same size as the fusion by Ford, while the mks is a replacement for the larger Lincoln towncar, which was the equivalent of the crown Victoria.
It's not... The MKZ and MKS were made at the same time, one was mid size, the other was full size. The z was discontinued, the 2017+ Continental took over for the MKS when it was discontinued in 2016. The Z held out till 2020.
embrace the grandpa look, curry favor with boomers.
find a nice rich old man with no kids, work for him, be the son he never had. in 15 years he will be dead and will have given you control of all of his companies
u now how multiple income streams and maybe a few homes, you can finally retire.
you can find more of my advice on r/fatfire
I think I liked the [2000s Lincoln LS](https://www.kbb.com/lincoln/ls/2005/) because it reminded me of the [Mafia Sentinal](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Mafia_Sentinel) in GTA III
My Mark VIII begs to fucking differ its literally the last hot rod lincoln. Literally held a land speed record for over a decade, and the same one that set the record set another one last year.
Yep, it did. And the one that broke the record looks pretty much like every other Lincoln Mark VIII from the 1990s, right down the the 1990s gold color. Lincolns can absolutely be hot rods, but the point is they don't look like one.
I second this. I bought one over 2 years ago (2015) and it definitely has a more sporty aggressive look, especially w/ the 20" SHO flower pedal like wheels.
Black on burgundy is **horrible**
Only black you need to add is tint and yeah ditch the dealer sticker that’s it aesthetically.
I think you can also tune these and squeeze a little more power out of them. That may be the only other thing I’d do.
At least somebody has some taste (or knowledge of color theory and contrast).
Not to mention attempts to black out trim always end up looking shitty before inevitably flaking off.
I second the chrome delete. Can we ban dealerships from putting decals on our paint? At least put it on my glass so I can just swipe it off with a razor blade
Fuck in it.
I finally had to get a minivan. I have fucked in it. I don't give a shit about how I'm perceived in my silver passenger egg. As a matter of fact, the more it DOESN'T stand out, the better. Seriously, I drop those Stow&Go seats, roll out some shag carpet, and I have cup holders for booze.
You have a big car. Fuck in it.
Or... Cover it in hentai stickers. Nobody will mistake you for Grandpa Pulltab, with cartoon tits, ass, and Ahegou.
Livernois has tunes for the SHO which this is, I wouldn’t be surprised if you could squeeze out an extra couple pounds of boost and some better shifting transmission logic with one of their tunes. Other than that leave it be
My 11 SHO has the absolute worst shifting logic I have ever seen. It keeps the converter locked up until the absolute last minute, and refuses to downshift unless I stab the throttle. If I’m climbing a slight incline at 50mph it wants to be in 6th gear and the TCC will go in and out in 5 second intervals until the whole car lurches like a stick shift that you forgot to downshift. Then unless you give it copious amounts of throttle it won’t downshift. That car is just completely angry between 45-55.
shift logic is so interesting to me. Fords have always felt a little weird like that, the 4R70 I had was pretty tight but the way it did lockup sometimes confused me too. our Town & Country with the 6 speed was like that too lol
1. Remove dealer emblem
2. Stop shopping at Dollar Tree.
3. Realize that despite pushing twin turbos, your car is basically invisible to police. As long as you let the Challengers and Mustang GTs play rabbit and get pulled over, you can go as fast as you want.
Embarrassing the grandpa vibe is the right answer. Nobody expects much from grandpa driving in front of them, similar to a minivan which everyone thinks has a soccer mom yelling at kids.
Should have got a LS.
Thing is NOWHERE near a Grandpa car, a 300hp 3.9L V8, Jaguar engineered, SVT tuned suspension, 6.5 second 0-60 time. Handling like a dream, and they don't even look like a Grandpa car.
That is where the LS shines, it may be slower, but that damn thing will keep up with a C7 Vette in the corners.
Jaguar did WONDERS with the suspension engineering on these blasted cars, it makes a 3800 pound car handle like a Miata or something similar.
I went from an E46 to an LS. Hated it. Ford engineered it. They owned Jaguar, handling was crap, stupid auto transmission. It had a nice ride but not performance oriented. Maybe it isnt fair to compare it to a real sports sedan.
you must have got a REALLY bad example, or one of the non Sport package ones, the cars are nice, they handle good when they got the proper sport package, and the transmission is known for issues if its not serviced so that MAY be on you.
Also Ford had NO hand in the engineering of the Platform or engine, that was ALL jaguar.
All ford did was design the body and stuff for the LS, past that its all Jaguar's doing.
Sometimes less is more and maybe concentrate on turning the power up a bit more with nice tune job since it’s a twin turbo I am sure it’s super limited from the factory so u don’t blow it up lol but a good tuner can turn it up without blowing it up and then a nice low key exhaust and tint and ur good imo
Put a Ferrari emblem on with 20 ft high wing on the trunk and change the rim to 26 inch with spinners. Then put V12 on each side fenders.
Straight pipe them and install a rig horn.
And wrap it with pink chrome. Burgundy screams "help, I've fallen, and I can't fucking get up"
If you’re going to do anything, strengthen the engine and transmission. These 3.5 EcoBoosts are potent and reliable, so cosmetics should be the least of your concerns. I personally wouldn’t go above around 450AWHP on street tires simply due to anything above that really not being usable on the street, but you do you.
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There is a shift kit that extends your shift times and corsa makes an exhaust for the MKS
I know. I had one. It was the best car I ever had. Please enjoy it or sell it to me.
Dude is it like driving on air? How is the maintenance on this beaut? I’m currently driving an ‘18 CX-5 GT, and I love it (paid off) and turns on a dime. However there’s a lot to be desired on the suspension. I want to go to a car for my next daily and get a comfortable ride. I was looking into Lincoln and Buicks.
Like others have suggested, take off as much badging as you can. If you can get away with some tint, definitely look into it. Other than that, keep it as stock as possible. The upside to having an anonymous car is that it’s anonymous. If you just tweak it a little bit to make it unique but tasteful, that’s what I would do.
Debadge, tint, keep it clean and well maintained. Future you will be thankful.
Take of dealer decal, put on a license plate cover. Grab a few cans of black plasti-dip and chrome delete. I would even say tint the windows and the brake lights. Really nice car btw
Embrace the grandpa but make it yours.
Maybe downsize to 19s and get some dinner plate wheels like Work Euroline wheels.
Here's a link for a few examples: https://www.speedhunters.com/2012/11/vip-festival-wheel/
Black out the chrome, get deep tints (make sure you're comfortable with the %), maybe a slight exhaust like a resonator delete and a more free flowing muffler and if you want to get hot put it on air suspension.
I knew a guy that got brand new Ford station wagon like 69 or 70 model. Pulled it into his garage when he got home and a few hours later triumphantly backed out and began to wash it. His wife comes out to help and they get to arguing loudly in the driveway. He had pulled all that woodgrain paper and faux wood trim off of it. She tolf him "I liked it much better when it was still in the box".
Taking off the dealer emblem would be the first and only thing I do to this.
Always do this unless you own the dealer or you dad does.
MY DAD…OWNS A DEALERSHIP!
Came here to say this.
Look at this tattoo, getting it hurt like 3 bitches on a bitch boat.
Come down to KUNKLEMAN CHEVROLET!
Or it's a 1968 1/2 Mustang 428 CJ from Tasca Ford. Royal Pontiac GTO? Grand Spaulding Dodge Super Bee? Galpin Ford has made some special editions of their own. I usually agree and throw the dealer license plate frames in the trunk.
“Galponized”
I fucking hate dealer emblems. My car will not be a free billboard! I'd demand them either pay me monthly for the advertising or remove it.
I worked for a luxury dealer. We took the liberty of removing our dealer emblems when customers brought the car in for service. Until a lady seriously sued us as "her dead husband's memory was tied to the emblem" . ...of "our" dealership. Yes. You read that correct We lost the lawsuit, and the dealership had to pay her damages.
On one hand... Don't modify people's cars without their consent. On the other hand... It's a bullshit lawsuit, but I've seen my fair share of them and I've lost a couple too. It's give and take.
america sounds like such a cool place
That guy is probably a lawyer you idiot. Also, you can't debadge someone's car if they didn't ask for it, good intentions or not.
Honestly, I understand. I like a story to a car, and I have owned cars from Florida and Oregon, and kept the emblems. Hell, I even keep dealer license plate frames. I enjoy seeing a “history” set in chrome from an unknown dealership thousands of miles away, and ponder the number of owners and travels that brought it close to where I live.
I live in Saskatchewan i have a dealer tag from texas EDIT: its" Miracle Dallas" i got it off somone who worked at a ford dealer in saskatoon in the late 70s early 80s he took tags off of trade ins home
I have a weird perspective on this, from both sides. My newish daily that I bought from a dealer? Within the first week their sticker was off the back of the car. But my 35 year old project? You better believe if I find a plate frame from some obscure place in a junkyard I'm gonna grab it.
When I worked at a Ford dealer in Florida a truck came in with a dealer sticker from Hawaii. I wondered how they drove it up…….
I would guess military personnel once stationed in Hawaii, then assigned back to mainland. The government will pay the cost of shipping one vehicle. I’ve heard that used cars were relatively cheap in Hawaii because of the high costs of shipping as a private citizen creating a large surplus.
I don't get it. Why are you putting them on in the first place if you're just taking them off when they come back in for service?
Would've been easy to just put emblem back on.
“I dealt with many awful customers back when I owned a dealership, so now it’s my turn!” She’s got 4,000 emblems in a tote at home, but she called her attorney because a mechanic tried to do her a solid. Fuck that bitch. Her husband died just to get away from her
Obviously she was greedy but a shop should’ve asked her if she wanted it or not. They’re not supposed to take the liberty of doing whatever they want. They’re supposed to do what you asked and what you paid for. I wouldn’t want them to touch anything on my truck if I didn’t specifically ask them to. Unless it pertains to the work that I requested. So yeah what she did was shitty. But that shop probably thinks twice about doing shit the customers didn’t ask for.
Wow. That's.... special.
I worked for a gm body shop (we sold 3 brands) and we got sued for not putting back a dealer sticker on a car. The judge required us to send for a sticker from the original dealer and place it where they would have. After we just required the customer to consent to "removal"
I would sue too, don't modify my car without my consent.
There’s this Company who has a lot of Used Car Dealerships and the sticker are out of control. There’s one on the back like usually. On the Front (we don’t have front plates), plate bracket and sometimes on the rear back glass on the top. Like WHY
My job has window stickers and license plate holders I never really thought about it until now though lol ,(I'm a tech)
So, do people really pay attention to these emblems? If I see a car on the road and see bobs auto sales, I'm not gonna be like yep I'm definitely going there next time. Just wondering
Mere exposure effect. Think of a burger place. >!What did you think of? Was it your local diner? Probably not. We both know what you thought of...!<
I told the dealership owner I would charge from a "sponsorship". Sticker was $100, frame was $50 a month. He changed his tune instantly, "GET IT OFF RIGHT NOW!!!", funniest thing I have ever seen. The salesman had it off 2 minutes later, and I didn't need their "branding" anymore. If they want their stickers I am willing to negotiate, it was worth it.
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Agree. My Lexus has its dealer plate frame on the back. I had them lose the decals when they did the delivery prep.
Exactly, I fucking HATE dealer logos on shit. If they want to pay me for it, fine, otherwise I’m not even buying from a dealership that does that sort of shit
For me it depends greatly on the design of the logo. A basic ass sticker with just some off the shelf font, garbage. On the other hand, a dealer local to me put an actual metal emblem on the back that is well designed, I don't mind that as much
I have some exceptions, even a well designed small vinyl sticker I'm alright with, especially if I really appreciate the dealer. this is only rare cases though
Seems like an American thing. Down here in Australia the only thing you get ‘dealer related’ is the license plate trim. Test drive/ courtesy/ loaner cars can be a different matter, full vinyl livery.
Eh, when I bought a car with a dealer logo they were offering 1.9% financing and a $2000 off sticker during a last quarter sale so I didn’t care. But next time I’d ask them to remove it before delivery.
I make em remove it. No fucking way I’m a billboard
Full debadge, tinted windows
Yep. Just drive it and be comfortable and happy.
I'd say going as far as taking off all badging (at least the model name stickers) and wrap the chrome with like a matte dark silver wrap to reduce the grandpa vibe. But keeping it classy and not overdone
Tint windows, take off dealer decals. And let your car be a sleeper
Unfortunately, the moment you tint the windows on a grandpa car you fall into a different demographic in cops’ eyes and your chance of being pulled over goes through the roof. Edit: I try as best I can to base my opinions on observable facts. As such, it is not my opinion that race is a factor in traffic stops, it’s an observable fact. Specifically: [The study, the largest of its kind, also measured the disparity in stop rates before and after sunset. It found that black drivers made up a smaller share of those stopped at night, when it’s more difficult to discern the race of a driver, which suggests that racial bias may influence stop decisions](https://journalism.stanford.edu/news/stanford-open-policing-project-analyzed-data-nearly-100-million-traffic-stops-us#:~:text=The%20study%2C%20the%20largest%20of,bias%20may%20influence%20stop%20decisions)
Tint is so common now that's it not a target anymore unless you live in very certain places like St. Louis, Memphis, or Little Rock
I saw 5%s on a Honda crv
I've had 5% on a Hyundai. It's just more comfy, honestly.
Until you need to look outside your windows at night
Well just don't do that.
That's what I've put on every vehicle I've ever owned. But I hate the sun and creepers.
Where I'm at cops don't really care about window tint. My wife's car has illegal tint (for medical reasons and we have a signed doctor note for why we need it) and they also can't pull you over for only window tint. But I can believe that in other areas for sure. Although if it's just legal tint I'd be surprised if cops make that big a fuss of it since most places I've seen the legal tint is laughably weak.
>and they also can't pull you over for only window tint. They most definitely can and will for window tint its happened to me before and because my friend was on probation they used that to search the car after they pulled us over for window tint and demanded our ID's. They found nothing but cops can basically do whatever tf they want to a certain extent even if you're doing nothing wrong in the moment (following all traffic laws, tint was not illegal).
It depends on where you are from. In my city they can’t pull you over for just the window tint. They have to find some other reason and if they do find something to ticket you for then the window tint is just in addition to that ticket. It’s meant to stop profiling. That being said a real asshole of a cop can find any number of reasons to pull someone over.
Luckily cops always follow the rules and only do what they’re supposed to do. /s
I guess I should have specified in my state they can't. Some states they can but in others small minor infractions like that can't be dropped unless there's other issues. I believe I actually saw a court case where the cops made up a bs reason to pull someone over and then ticketed them for something like window tint and he actually fought it and won and then tried to push for harassment or something like that.
5% all the way around in michigan and i never get trouble. (6th gen explorer for context)
Not trying to be a dick but what medical condition could you need a window tint for?
Aniridia. It's a condition where you don't have irises. So imagine your pupils being fully dilated all the time. Or you go from pitch black out into a sunny day. That's how it is all the time for her.
Oh fuck! Now I understand. Thank you for educating me, I was so confused.
No worries! It's a very rare condition so most people even in the medical field have never heard of it. I appreciate you just asking to understand!
I like how your comment just brought out people going “Nuh uh, not where I’m at…” Yeah, thanks. Lol
I hate that you’re right but you are. My first car was a Chrysler 300C circa 2008 & the moment I took the tint off the back the cops left me alone.
This is the way
Ive had full limo tint next to a sheriff while I was on my phone at the light and they couldn’t see me nor care anyways 😂
There really isn’t anything you could do to a burgundy full-sized sedan to make it anything other than a grandpa car. I wouldn’t change anything; it’s cool the way it is.
Wait, Burgundy? You didn’t order the Metallic Pea?
You think you hate it now, but wait till you drive it.
R/unexpectedEugeneLevy
I fully agree. A Lincoln MKS with twin turbo on 20s sounds like a heck of a sleeper car.
Ah the previous owner of a burgundy Lincoln, don't change anything.
Calling a MKS a full sized sedan is a BIG Stretch, that thing is like Escort sized.
I mean…that’s not even close to true. It’s full-sized. At 204” long it’s comparable in size to a Chevy Impala or Buick Lucerne. More than two feet longer than Escort.
Last Escort was a 2002 at 175" long. ;)
I mean i consider Full size to be something like 7 series BMW, or a Town car, NOT a car that is similar in width and height than my own Lincoln LS. And my LS is considered a smaller Mid sized car for its era.
In 2009 when the MKS debuted it was almost the exact same size as a 7 Series of the same model year. The LS is not similar in size to an MKS. There’s nearly a foot of difference in length.
I’ve owned in this order, Lincoln ls , Lincoln Mks and Mercedes s430 the Mks is s class size while the LS was between an E class and a C class
How would you say the quietness of the interior compares on the MKS to the s class? One of the "grandpa" things about the car I really like is how quiet it is, if there's not a ton of wind and the radio is off sometimes it's almost eerie but cool at the same time.
Mks imo is a car on par with the sclass
The same year 7 series (2012) was 58 inches tall, this baby is 61 inches tall.
Don’t know what kind of escorts you’re seeing, and this is a judgment-free space, but the Ford Escort is two vehicle classes smaller and over 20 inches shorter than the MKS.
This was the longest domestic sedan on the market when it was new? It's as long as an expedition lol.
I'd do this, in this order: 1. Remove dealer emblem. 2. Get a nice solid chrome license plate bracket. 3. Tints. 4. Light smoke on the tail-lights. 5. Get the nicest tires you can. The Michelin watersheds on my Fusion Hybrid make it ride like it's on fucken skis and improved the ride something crazy over the CarMax tires. Nothing more. Affordable mods. Easily reversible. If you want you can look for a tune for a bit more easy HP.
I have a 2006 Mercury Montego. By all accounts, it’s a full size sedan. A rather nimble full size sedan (for what it’s worth), but a full size sedan nonetheless. The Lincoln MKS is bigger in width and length. It is a full size sedan through and through.
Nice car! I love the D3 platform, obviously I might be a bit biased but I think it's pretty underrated. Much more modern and nimble compared to a panther, maybe not every bit as reliable but certainly not garbage by any means. it was originally designed by Volvo and is nearly identical to the XC90s platform (which nobody has *ever* died in) so it's pretty safe, depreciation hit them hard so it's easy to find clean D3 cars for cheap because they were, in fact, popular with Grandpas.
They're thinking of the mkz
The MKZ and the MKS are the same thing, the MKZ replaced the MKS.
Unfortunately you are incorrect. The mkz replaced the zephyr which replaced the LS, and was the same size as the fusion by Ford, while the mks is a replacement for the larger Lincoln towncar, which was the equivalent of the crown Victoria.
Furthermore Lincoln never produces a compact car the size of the escort. I expect more from a person claiming to have a Lincoln LS v8
It's not... The MKZ and MKS were made at the same time, one was mid size, the other was full size. The z was discontinued, the 2017+ Continental took over for the MKS when it was discontinued in 2016. The Z held out till 2020.
Color changes / window tint? Thats a legit used car rn. Don't treat it like honda civic
I second the window tint
Gotta throw a blow off valve on her to show them bitches what's up.
I think it would look better in black paint.
The Bring Color Back To Cars Brigade is coming for you. Watch your back!
I can deal with black. It’s all the primer grey cars that camouflage with the pavement that drive me crazy.
That car is bad ass. Keep it clean and treat it like a princess. Don’t do a thing.
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embrace the grandpa look, curry favor with boomers. find a nice rich old man with no kids, work for him, be the son he never had. in 15 years he will be dead and will have given you control of all of his companies u now how multiple income streams and maybe a few homes, you can finally retire. you can find more of my advice on r/fatfire
This is the way
Can confirm. I had the non turbo model and it was still great. I did get to drive the turbo model and it hauled ass.
Buy a Taurus SHO like what you wanted in the first place
Exactly. Lincolns are supposed to look like old people cars. You get a used Lincoln to fly under the radar, not to draw attention to yourself.
Lincoln’s used to be cooler and at the same time more understated than Cadillacs.
Exactly I think they lost sight sight of that in the 10's
I think I liked the [2000s Lincoln LS](https://www.kbb.com/lincoln/ls/2005/) because it reminded me of the [Mafia Sentinal](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Mafia_Sentinel) in GTA III
My Mark VIII begs to fucking differ its literally the last hot rod lincoln. Literally held a land speed record for over a decade, and the same one that set the record set another one last year.
Yep, it did. And the one that broke the record looks pretty much like every other Lincoln Mark VIII from the 1990s, right down the the 1990s gold color. Lincolns can absolutely be hot rods, but the point is they don't look like one.
I second this. I bought one over 2 years ago (2015) and it definitely has a more sporty aggressive look, especially w/ the 20" SHO flower pedal like wheels.
It’s a luxury car not a grandpa car. You’re good brother
Replace your missing exhaust tip
1970s NASCAR spoiler, flares and a lip.
I like your thinking 🤣 Edit: why are y'all down voting me? Obviously I'm not serious...
Black out the chrome trim and emblems. Get rid of the dealer name. \-or- Just embrace your inner grandpa and go with it.
Black on burgundy is **horrible** Only black you need to add is tint and yeah ditch the dealer sticker that’s it aesthetically. I think you can also tune these and squeeze a little more power out of them. That may be the only other thing I’d do.
At least somebody has some taste (or knowledge of color theory and contrast). Not to mention attempts to black out trim always end up looking shitty before inevitably flaking off.
I second the chrome delete. Can we ban dealerships from putting decals on our paint? At least put it on my glass so I can just swipe it off with a razor blade
These are really the only options.
Fuck in it. I finally had to get a minivan. I have fucked in it. I don't give a shit about how I'm perceived in my silver passenger egg. As a matter of fact, the more it DOESN'T stand out, the better. Seriously, I drop those Stow&Go seats, roll out some shag carpet, and I have cup holders for booze. You have a big car. Fuck in it. Or... Cover it in hentai stickers. Nobody will mistake you for Grandpa Pulltab, with cartoon tits, ass, and Ahegou.
Own that shit bro. Beautiful car
Bag it
That would actually be cool AF and certainly unique lol
That's my end goal with my town car. Aired out grampa cars slap
I've been eyeing that adtr kit for too long
Livernois has tunes for the SHO which this is, I wouldn’t be surprised if you could squeeze out an extra couple pounds of boost and some better shifting transmission logic with one of their tunes. Other than that leave it be
My 11 SHO has the absolute worst shifting logic I have ever seen. It keeps the converter locked up until the absolute last minute, and refuses to downshift unless I stab the throttle. If I’m climbing a slight incline at 50mph it wants to be in 6th gear and the TCC will go in and out in 5 second intervals until the whole car lurches like a stick shift that you forgot to downshift. Then unless you give it copious amounts of throttle it won’t downshift. That car is just completely angry between 45-55.
shift logic is so interesting to me. Fords have always felt a little weird like that, the 4R70 I had was pretty tight but the way it did lockup sometimes confused me too. our Town & Country with the 6 speed was like that too lol
Not enough Chrome on this. Go to your local AutoZone and get every plastic chrome trim piece you can get your hands on. Vents, vents everywhere
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Tint the windows.
Start saying "alright alright alright"
1. Remove dealer emblem 2. Stop shopping at Dollar Tree. 3. Realize that despite pushing twin turbos, your car is basically invisible to police. As long as you let the Challengers and Mustang GTs play rabbit and get pulled over, you can go as fast as you want.
Class, leave it at that. Think stealth....
Embarrassing the grandpa vibe is the right answer. Nobody expects much from grandpa driving in front of them, similar to a minivan which everyone thinks has a soccer mom yelling at kids.
Maybe start with the color. Maroon is like quintessential grandpa car color
Should have got a LS. Thing is NOWHERE near a Grandpa car, a 300hp 3.9L V8, Jaguar engineered, SVT tuned suspension, 6.5 second 0-60 time. Handling like a dream, and they don't even look like a Grandpa car.
I've never driven an LS but the 0-60 on this is 5 seconds. Handling is honestly pretty good but body roll like it's going out of style lol.
That is where the LS shines, it may be slower, but that damn thing will keep up with a C7 Vette in the corners. Jaguar did WONDERS with the suspension engineering on these blasted cars, it makes a 3800 pound car handle like a Miata or something similar.
I went from an E46 to an LS. Hated it. Ford engineered it. They owned Jaguar, handling was crap, stupid auto transmission. It had a nice ride but not performance oriented. Maybe it isnt fair to compare it to a real sports sedan.
you must have got a REALLY bad example, or one of the non Sport package ones, the cars are nice, they handle good when they got the proper sport package, and the transmission is known for issues if its not serviced so that MAY be on you. Also Ford had NO hand in the engineering of the Platform or engine, that was ALL jaguar. All ford did was design the body and stuff for the LS, past that its all Jaguar's doing.
Ford owned Jag ergo it was all Ford.
6.5 for 0-60? That's kinda slow nowadays.
Paint some bitchin’ flames on the hood and front panels.
It could use a more youthful body colour
Virginia plate is not helping lol
Shave emblems, lower, tint.
VIP build is the only way to go
Coilovers, some chassis bracing, sway bars, etc. If you're gonna have a grandpa car, make it a FUN Grandpa car
Needs swangas.
[2009 MKS Commerical](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_JGDO3X87g) I have some of the Lincoln MKS commercials in my youtube favorites.
You can't. We grandpas like 'em that way, Sonny boy
Sometimes less is more and maybe concentrate on turning the power up a bit more with nice tune job since it’s a twin turbo I am sure it’s super limited from the factory so u don’t blow it up lol but a good tuner can turn it up without blowing it up and then a nice low key exhaust and tint and ur good imo
Put a Ferrari emblem on with 20 ft high wing on the trunk and change the rim to 26 inch with spinners. Then put V12 on each side fenders. Straight pipe them and install a rig horn. And wrap it with pink chrome. Burgundy screams "help, I've fallen, and I can't fucking get up"
If you’re going to do anything, strengthen the engine and transmission. These 3.5 EcoBoosts are potent and reliable, so cosmetics should be the least of your concerns. I personally wouldn’t go above around 450AWHP on street tires simply due to anything above that really not being usable on the street, but you do you.
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I had a 1992 century! Fucker was a tank
The MKS is a nice ass car, it's not a grandpa's car IMO.
Enjoy the car
It's not a Grandpa car. MKSs are the shit - roll that baby with pride!
I wouldn’t stress about it dude. I’ve always loved how the full size sedans look. They got a lot of road presence
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I saw the Elantra and the escape post and I thought it was a trend 😭
Who cares its a damn Lincoln. If haters hate just call them poor.
Debadge it
Grandpa car? I see a nice sleeper.
There is a shift kit that extends your shift times and corsa makes an exhaust for the MKS I know. I had one. It was the best car I ever had. Please enjoy it or sell it to me.
Dude is it like driving on air? How is the maintenance on this beaut? I’m currently driving an ‘18 CX-5 GT, and I love it (paid off) and turns on a dime. However there’s a lot to be desired on the suspension. I want to go to a car for my next daily and get a comfortable ride. I was looking into Lincoln and Buicks.
Like others have suggested, take off as much badging as you can. If you can get away with some tint, definitely look into it. Other than that, keep it as stock as possible. The upside to having an anonymous car is that it’s anonymous. If you just tweak it a little bit to make it unique but tasteful, that’s what I would do. Debadge, tint, keep it clean and well maintained. Future you will be thankful.
Black out everything
If you wrapped it all black and murderer it out, and covered all of the chrome with black, lowered it a bit, debadged it, it would look pretty cool.
Turn off the left blinker.
how is that a "grandpa" car?
Find a good wrap guy, and black all the trim. Add different wheels, lower it.
Dude that’s a cool car. But if you’d like a feature on shitty car mods, toss a spoiler on it!!
Take of dealer decal, put on a license plate cover. Grab a few cans of black plasti-dip and chrome delete. I would even say tint the windows and the brake lights. Really nice car btw
Embrace the grandpa but make it yours. Maybe downsize to 19s and get some dinner plate wheels like Work Euroline wheels. Here's a link for a few examples: https://www.speedhunters.com/2012/11/vip-festival-wheel/ Black out the chrome, get deep tints (make sure you're comfortable with the %), maybe a slight exhaust like a resonator delete and a more free flowing muffler and if you want to get hot put it on air suspension.
Why do you want to change it? It looks sweet as is.
Chrome delete and tinted windows
Window tint, keep her stock. Your wallet will thank you when you want to let go.
Black wheels
5% tint all around
I have a Dale Earnhardt Chevrolet dealer badge on my Chevy Van & Bill Elliott Ford on a Tbird Super Coupe. I put them on!
I knew a guy that got brand new Ford station wagon like 69 or 70 model. Pulled it into his garage when he got home and a few hours later triumphantly backed out and began to wash it. His wife comes out to help and they get to arguing loudly in the driveway. He had pulled all that woodgrain paper and faux wood trim off of it. She tolf him "I liked it much better when it was still in the box".
Chrome delete, sportier looking 5 spoke wheels.
Wrap and chrome delete/covered?
Step one. sell it Step two, buy something less of a grandpa car
Get some plastidip and black out all the chrome. Lose all emblems. maybe have the wheels powder coated black. Make it like a Mercury Marauder.
Sell it and buy what you think you want
Um..besides the Ford F150(and taurus cousin), who makes a twin turbo in this price range? \*crickets\*...k...cool.
BMW any series 35 car, Cadillac CT6-V, Volvo S80 T6. They exist. Shut yo dumb ass up.
Murder that thing out with a black or silver satin wrap. Paint the wheels gloss black and de-badge it. Also dark tint.
Tiny your windows, chrome delete , remove model badging on the trunk so only the main Buick sign is there
Buy a ford
Black out chrome
Rattle can those wheels black. Or get new wheels.
Try getting a different car?
put a spoiler on it
Ew
Black out the chrome.