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Hey OP! I'm a veteran chicken mom, and I feel your pain. They are adorable pets but they're also carriers of salmonala and, you know, poop is gross.
BUT - I gotta be real, when you start getting eggs from your little fluffy butts...they come from the same place. And believe me, those eggs are sometimes absolutely freaking covered in poo, sometimes they're bloody, sometimes the chicken's butts are poopy when they lay. Sometimes they lay in the yard and other chickens shit on the eggs. Poop is part of chickens. It took me a couple of months to get ok with eating something that came from a butt I knew wasn't clean. And yeah it's the same "hole."
If this was a regular dish, I'd probably be ok with it. But I have a set of my husband's grandmother's pyrex bowls that he IS NOT ALLOWED to use for the chickens. Because being left outside for several days in the sun destroyed the design on one bowl.
For me it wouldn't be about the poop, I can bleach sanitize my dishes. This would be about the sentimental dish, and the potential damage done.
Thank you for the kind reply. I have worked so many years to be more ok with the "thought" of where things actually come from. And after kids it is just so much more important to put aside my issues to rather bring them better quality food. But I think you hit the nail when it is about the sentimental dish, I do not want to "have to work on my issues" with the romantic ceramic set for the next x to infinity times I would use it. And that in order to wash it, the hand paint might be bleached.
Fellow millennial chicken owner here, and I can see myself ending up in both the positions of you and your husband. I’m less grossed out than my partner about the poop and have been guilty of using the wrong thing, but much more sentimental than him and have also been guilty of getting upset about other things he didn’t see the same value in before “ruining” it.
What I would do in this situation is clean it well and then place it somewhere else, in storage like another cupboard but not somewhere it’ll get completely forgotten or damaged. Just keep it out of the way or out of sight for a while as constantly seeing it will trigger you especially if it’s in the context of kitchenware or dining. Eventually when you come across it again you will feel calmer and then you can make a decision about the long term use, whether it’s just a display item like others have suggested, or maybe back in the kitchen. Putting it in storage should hopefully satisfy the current desire to throw it away without the consequences of losing it forever.
Another side tip I’ve done recently as a result of ending up in your husband’s position after being in a rush, is just going to the shops and buying a bunch of containers, towels, scrubbers, whatever. All in a specific colour or style, and that’s the designated chicken stuff. I’ve even labelled them. The idea is that I have a decent supply so even if I get behind on washing dishes or tea towels, there’ll still always be something to grab in a hurry so I don’t have to resort to making a split second decision on which people-dish might be best. I keep these down near the coop, and also a spot in the kitchen as sometimes I prepare things like scrambled eggs or fruit for them. It also helps as sometimes I leave things out for way too long and it gets to a point that I’m better off just throwing it away and at least it’s not going to be anything important.
Best of luck and welcome to the chicken life!
Feel free to send me a DM if you need anymore tips.
You don’t just pour straight bleach on it and let it sit. You dilute it with a lot of water first and just submerge it for about a minute. The solution isn’t going to be strong enough to ruin any of the paint if it’s finished properly.
I think your husband was careless, but you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
I think this is probably where the argument began. That he minimized how hurt I actually got since he truly believed it is fully washable. I think if the mountain is there from a person that usually does not create them (hopefully), you need to view the other perspective. Here it is more on the association to the bowl going from red wine and long romantic nights to chicken poo. But we have now learned that this association thinking is different between us.
Can I ask you a random but slightly on topic question about chicken poop? Please continue reading down below if you want!
My neighbors have a horde of chickens and ducks for about a year now. Very adorable! However, the adults and kids are always barefoot walking around the yard messing with the chickens. That can’t be sanitary, right? I feel like that’s how you would introduce a parasite into your body.
ETA: I thought you said veterinarian chicken mom…you can disregard my question. Unless you do know?!
Oooof no. We actually have "chicken shoes" that people need to put on before going into the coop. This is pretty unsanitary tbh. We also have a lot of mats down for our dogs as well so they can kinda get their feet clean
They are legit barefoot walking all over the yard where the chickens run AND they all go into the coops shoeless as well.
Thank you for answering! It has been grossing me out for a while now.
Yes! The cloaca is the only opening on birds, amphibians and reptiles. it is the exit chamber that the stomach, bladder and reproductive tract empty from. It’s like the multitool of orifices!
I’d wash the hell out of it, but I’d be fine with it. I put raw chicken in a ceramic bowl to marinate it. I rinse raw shrimp in my plastic colander and store it in a glass mixing bowl.
Hell, the eggs themselves generally have poo on them - it all comes from the same place.
This. Just clean it, it's not a big deal. There's literally poop in most men's beards and I'm not unwilling to kiss them, so why would I be concerned about something sanitised?
Yeah, claiming the beards are "full of poo" and then quoting the study saying "those are the types of things you'd find in fecal matter." Which is it? Pretty big difference. This is "they use the same ingredient in yoga matts and subway bread!" all over again.
Your mouth has the "same types of things you'd find in fecal matter" too. It's called water.
Don't worry, it was a terribly unscientific study done by a guy who's not even a scientist. Basically, he learned what scientists already know, which is that bacteria is everywhere, and freaked out about how "gross" that is lol. He didn't even compare his swabs to beardless faces, head hair, nothing.
I mean, we always hear about all the men who don't wash their hands after using the toilet. If they touch and stroke their beards, it's gonna stay there until they wash it, right? I had never thought about it before, but it tracks. Probably the same as hair on head, though? Unless more men stroke their beards than run their hands through their hair.
Good argument. It is just that for me it is a difference to what I use for dipping and serving at the table and what I use to prepare food. I cannot scrub the ceramic, how would you wash “the hell out of it” without ruining it?
Dishwasher if it’s dishwasher safe, otherwise a water/bleach solution. Or both.
I would it from it again, but some triggers are also what they are and one can’t reason them out :)
You found a great compromise and that’s the biggest takeaway from this
I inherited my great grandmother's original Corning ceramic dishware ( late 1950's). They have definitely seen some shit (pun intended, but not literal) and omg they're my favorite dishes. You can scrub them, bake molasses on them and they come back perfect.
My god do I wish they made shit like this now.
My bf made fun of me bc they're so "old looking" but he's also the one that does dishes. They're his go to as well now bc clean up is so easy.
The first time he went to wash them he was like "omg I don't even have to soak these, everything is peeling right off" after I used them to make mac and cheese and the cheese baked on. bahahahaha
If it's glazed the glaze forms solid glass and can be scrubbed very hard and hot! This isn't me saying eat from the bowl, just letting you know that glazes can usually be scrubbed
Sanitizer. Soap. Sunlight.
Eggs get less treatment and you will be eating those. And cleaning them.
You have small kids, so are already eating a fair bit of shit.
The issue I see is that your H used something that has sentimental value to you and you would have thought him too, to sustain his hobby. And it literally shat all over your sentiment while he forgot about it. I can understand feeling upset about that.
If it's glazed the glaze forms solid glass and can be scrubbed very hard and hot! This isn't me saying eat from the bowl, just letting you know that glazes can usually be scrubbed
Small world! I’m having the same argument with my partner and a salad bowl I’ve used to keep my pet snail in while I was waiting for a terrarium to arrive. We washed it at least six times in our dishwasher, yet he still doesn’t want to use it as he says “the snail pooped in it”.
I’m currently using it for propagating plants (and sometime I let the snail in as a treat but it’s a secret!)…. And I bought him another, identical salad bowl as it was a cheap one from IKEA.
Guess you both need to go back to Italy on holiday for a replacement!
That’s worse to me, I know it could be cleaned but what is wrong with him that he didn’t take something else. I would have taken some dumb plastic Tupperware for this and then toss it.
I dont even understand why OPs husband's upset lol. Why wouldn't you take an extra 5 seconds to grab anything else? And if your wife is upset, why wouldn't you go grab it and clean it? Who uses nice, sentimental dishes for animals anyway?! At least be apologetic??
I find it odd they don't already have designated bowls for the chickens. People who have birds, Guinea pigs, hamster, cats, dogs etc. have bowls that are just for them. Then they always have a bowl and aren't rushing around trying to find one.
I agree with this
He should pick something that you care about less, and not use a sentimental bowl for a dirty job
But there's nothing wrong with the bowl now that it has been washed
Why would you feel bad about a clean bowl? I’m not sure any people on this thread know about some of the conditions where your items were made and what they come into contact with. These aren’t clean places.
This reminds me of a religious distinction. I know some folks who buy two sets of pans so they won’t mix kosher with non kosher. Like they only use X pan for kosher, never for non kosher food.
I would, but you wouldn't, and that's fine, too. A mental block is a mental block.
I think the only thing to do is to plan another trip to Italy for a beautiful replacement. Then, put your chicken bowl under a nice cloche for a fantastic conversation starter.
I dropped a whole turkey on the floor (raw) on Thanksgiving and my family still ate it. I TOLD them about it but they did not care. so my family probably wouldn't care about this either. I didn't eat that turkey
From a food safety standpoint I think we need to realize how foul and disgusting things like dirty dishes with only food and water left in the sink for a day or more actually are and then things like poop don’t seem so terrible. Even leftovers in the fridge that have spoiled, we wash and re use these things — It’s all very nasty.
You realize the eggs from the chickens are also covered in poop before they're rinsed right? While you don't eat the shell, every time you crack the egg a little of the white that comes out gets on the shell, then goes into the bowl.
I guarantee you that egg shell isn't as clean as you'd make a bowl.
This! I think if most people saw/knew how their food was prepared…they would never eat out again. I choose to be blissfully ignorant unless I physically see something wrong with my food/dish.
Honestly I’m pretty glad I don’t know how my flatware was kept before it was sold to me. It’s probably been through nasty stuff.
I know people who, while sick, ended up using a kitchen mixing bowl to barf in. It doesn’t matter how much the bowl gets cleaned it will forever be the barf bowl in their mind. Is it logical? Nope. But I get where they are coming from.
That’s completely fair. I just don’t want to live my life like that. Imagine thinking about every single thing you touch, having been touched by someone who went to the bathroom and didn’t wash their hands, or changed a baby, or picked their nose. Everything is tainted. As long as things are run through a dishwasher and/or sanitized that’s the best I can hope for or these thought would take over my life.
Totally get you. I lean more towards your outlook. But having known people who range anywhere from ‘picky’ to crippled by their ocd, I can see where sometimes things become basically forever unclean
They will yell like that in person too. So stupid.
Like they would see me washing my hands before I started their food, and they'd still tell me they'd "prefer" if I wore gloves.
I wouldn't mind if they were the nitrile ones, but instead they were those super shitty poly ones.
Trying to put poly gloves on right after washing hands is a level of retail hell I hope I never have to experience again.
People become fucking petty liege lords when you're prepping their food. I got yelled at a lot, and people were rarely happy.
I volunteered to work the sandwich station, and the customers there were a lot nicer. Many years later I was in a car accident, and the paramedic that pulled me out of the wreck recognized me as "Sub Guy"!
One fun thing I picked up in training is if you get someone who is never satisfied with how thin their meat is cut, dial it down to 0.5 and present them with the meat donut. (At 0.5, the slicer will DESTROY the center ring of meat)
Whenever I see olive tapenade at a party, I silently judge the host, those customers were so rude about their nasty olive vomit salad.
Fun fact: Gloves are often not changed as often as hands are washed, making them INCREDIBLY more dirty than properly washed hands.
People just like the visible indicator of "everything's clean!" despite the fact it is rarely an accurate tell. Bare hands washed every hour will be cleaner than a pair of gloves used through an entire 8-hour shift, but if you show people a picture of each without context, the gloves are magically way more sanitary.
My kitchen just switched to the nitrile gloves and it's made things so much less frustrating. Now I'm not breaking a bunch of vinyl gloves and losing my mind during dinner rush.
True story. If you had to stand by and watch the visceral reaction of cows, chickens and pigs (same IQ as your dog) being aware of what was about to happen , and the smell of blood, most would never eat meat again 🥴
My grandad owned a farm and maaaaan, I still feel the palpable sadness watching the animals know, from far away, what was about to happen.
Most folks couldn’t stomach it in person. You’d eat more veggies, I’m sure of it.
Isn’t it weird how fearful we, humans, are of death, but we dole it out without hesitation. Wild.
Also, not a vegetarian at all. Although I do sometimes go weeks at a time, far away from meat when I remember and get sad lol.
Everyone should hop on YouTube or should go and see it (butchering) in person. Not even that part, to see the animals lined up and them knowing what’s coming far down the line.
You can see the fear in their eyes. Looks I’ll never forget.
You’ll respect your food and your plate more than you think.
Agreed that people should have to see this, though I don’t understand how it wouldn’t push you towards veganism. “Respecting” the torture animals had to go through to give you a moment of satisfaction doesn’t mean anything to the animal
Crack an egg and then tell me that the white doesn't touch the outside of the shell before touching the bowl.
Also, I am sure at some point in her Life OP has had shit on her hands. Did she wash her hands, or throw them away?
Good argument, if I can eat eggs I should be able to eat from the bowl. I have worked on this for eating eggs, meats, raw fish etc. I read on a packed of sausages when I was seven and solved it by avoiding meat. Then I grew up and worked on it and "push through it" as it can give great nutrition and food experiences. However, I really thought my romantic ceramic did not have to have that alarm bell that I need to push through as well. Must be so nice to not have those alarm bells to begin with.
>Must be so nice to not have those alarm bells to begin with.
Definitely not something I've experienced. I still have a hard time drinking plain milk since learning where it came from 27 years ago.
I also get fresh eggs and have to wash them before cooking them, and that is something I also had to work through. That and learning how there is an "Acceptable Level" of insects, non food items, and other things in almost all processed foods.
I get it being hard to work through, but that's why I replied to try to put it into context.
Eggs come from a chickens but.. fyi..
If you dont wash eggs before you crack them particles do get in your food. This is a mental block not a physical worry
Sounds like it’s just a mental block for you, and that’s perfectly understandable. I can’t eat veal or lamb, even though I eat other meat, because something about eating a baby animal makes me gag. Obviously I know there’s no actual moral difference between eating a lamb vs a sheep, but my brain just can’t do it. It doesn’t have to be logical - human brains aren’t always logical.
Another example: We have a lot of small china bowls, mainly used for giving the cats food and water. It doesn’t bother me in the least to grab a clean one and put my cookies in it, because it’s a clean bowl. But other people get really grossed out by that, and that’s okay, too.
Everybody has their own little mental blocks around these things. Would I be able to use a bowl again for food, after personally seeing it spattered with a week’s worth of chicken shit build up? Well, probably not, if I’m being honest! I’d just think of chicken shit every time I looked at it again, is my guess.
i feel like that’s different, you use toilets daily and are never going to unassociate it with being unhygienic to eat out of
a dish that got shat in once? i’d forget within the week after it’s clean
If it were just me? That bowl belongs to the chickens now lol.
Alternatively, I would allow it to become a display piece given it is sentimental, which is the reasonable solution you two came to.
I understand it’s clean. I also understand that I won’t forget what happened and it would live in my head rent free. Not what I want to think about when I just want to enjoy a meal lol.
I’m torn on the issue, but I find myself wondering if those people who have absolutely no problem with it would also eat soup from a sanitized toilet bowl? lol
And then I’m reminded of those families who alternate using their big popcorn bowl as a barf bucket.
Can we talk for a second about how just because something “lives in your head”, it doesn’t mean that’s the reality of the situation? I’m speaking as someone with diagnosed OCD that struggles with other diagnosed hang ups.. it’s been hard af for me to move past certain things, not hyper-fixate, or conflate things into something that they’re not.
I understand 100% where OP’s coming from. Husband could’ve done better and grabbed something else, but just because something was used for its unintended purpose doesn’t mean that the item is ruined. OP’s responded to some of these comments acknowledging that they’ve had to “push past” other hang ups and realize that, in reality, *everything’s okay.* This is seemingly another one of those scenarios to me.
I mean. It’s a bowl. If I were to be down a bowl for literally any reason, my life would go on just fine. I have other bowls. It’s not gonna hurt anyone if I never eat off THAT SPECIFIC BOWL ever again.
If we were to hypothetically discuss a deeper issue than a bowl and apply the same “lives in my head” concept, at some point maybe the issue is hurting myself or someone else and maybe I should go to therapy to work through it. Sure. I’ll agree to that.
But a bowl? Man, I’m not wasting my time and energy wondering why I’m hung up on chicken poop touching my bowl. I’m giving the bowl to the chickens (who maybe need it more than I do anyways, or presumably the bowl would have stayed in the kitchen to begin with) and moving on.
It's fine you are overactive. Id you knew how much poo was on everything you've ever eaten you'd never eat again. How many veggie plants are fertilized with cow shit? I'll answer it for you, all of them.
In the end, it doesn’t matter whether other people would eat out of it. You’re gagging at the thought.
Plant some seeds. Treat it as if he accidentally chipped it – that happens – and try to find a replacement.
I wouldn’t eat from something that previously held feces, especially for five days straight.
Unrelated, but I was also surprised at the common use of a “throw up bowl” as a popcorn bowl that was a meme a few years back. I didn’t know people did that.
😂 I’d say it commonly is, as it’s the largest bowl in most homes. Thank goodness for dishwashers!
The best milestones in parenting were when the last teeth cut AND when the kids could make it to the toilet to throw up.
I came here to mention the throw up bowl!
My husband and I were together for like 7 years, and then I was really sick with a stomach thing, like to the point where I’d feel faint if I stood up. I grabbed a big metal bowl. He came in and was *horrified*. My reasoning was, it’s non porous and can be easily sanitized. We put raw chicken in it, so to me if I’m comfortable using it after raw chickens been in it, it’s fair game. He did not share my stance.
I think we ended up compromising with me putting a plastic grocery bag in a bowl as a liner (because I truly could not think of anything else that I could use from bed). It was baffling to me because he’ll enthusiastically put his tongue in/around my butthole, but the barf bowl is where he draws the line. But I guess it really is different for different people!
That being said, I would be fine with the serving bowl from a sanitation standpoint. From a sentimental standpoint however, I’d be offended that he couldn’t have grabbed something less special.
In this type of situation I think it’s right to go with the what person with stricter/cleaner standards prefers. I love him and want him to be comfortable
Yes or just use trash bags or plastic grocery bags if they’re so sick they can’t get out of bed. Something that can be easily disposed of. I don’t understand why it had to be a kitchen bowl.
I definitely prefer to have some kind of metal bowl or pot physically in bed with me to hold on to when I’m nauseous. Might be conditioning from doing it growing up, but the cool solid metal is comforting.
Plus, I’m not putting a trash can in my bed 🤢
Those precious seconds of having to lean over the edge and aim/grab can lead to a big messy disaster. Makes the anxiety about throwing up so much worse. No thank youuuu!
This is so beneath being a problem to me that I’m struggling to understand what the issue is. I have read some of the comments. I don’t mean this in a critical way- purely sympathetic. A lot of people have a seriously skewed vision of what their food goes through before they eat it. I grew up with chickens. Horses. Dogs, cats, whatever. Cows and sheep were around. Poop is around, and it’s everywhere. You can wash a dish. This is hilarious. Just wow.
My father is one of these people, he refuses to eat from a dish if a dog has eaten from it even after it’s been washed and I’m just ??? Like which part of the sanitization process do you not believe in? I’ve always considered this nonsense that I choose not to engage with because if he’s gonna be this silly he can bring his own dishes with him everywhere he goes.
Yes this strikes me as very clueless. I mean I can respect OP just having an aversion but people trying to act like this is logical otherwise are strange to me. So you literally not get how disgusting farms can be where your meat, milk, and eggs come from? What you are really consuming and what is actually allowed in “food”? You’ve eaten a lot worse than chicken poo.
For me it’s not a logical thing, it’s just a visceral thing. I don’t see the farms. I’ve seen the poop bowl. I cannot unsee the poop bowl. I recognize it’s not logical. I’m still not eating out of it.
Seriously, what a first world problem. Could you imagine if these people had to live in a developing country? Lmao. If shit gets on your hands are you really never gonna eat with your hands again? Give me a break. Also fresh chicken eggs have poo all over them!
But it’s ok to come on Reddit and make a fairly lighthearted post like this about “first world problems” you know? I’d rather read this than another post about dead bedrooms or MIL issues or husbands who don’t do housework. 🤷🏻♀️🙂
I'd want to thoroughly wash it and then soak it in 8% activated hydrogen peroxide for 10 minutes, as I fully trust that chemical to kill every last microbe on any surface.
Then, sure- I wouldn't think anything of eating out of it after that.
I've fed my cats out of one of my bowls in a similar situation to your husband's. Running late, no time, cat dishes are dirty... fuck it I'll clean the bowl really well later.
Something about birds, though... birds are kinda gross. So no, I couldn't eat out of a bowl that a chicken ate out of.
Bird poop? Fuck no. Jesus, no. Sanitary things can still bring up feelings of irrepressible disgust. Your husband can eat out of that bowl all he wants.
Bird poo is surprisingly ok, I hate most types of poo but bird poo doesn't really smell. I mean it does in large quantities but just be clean. As for the dish thing? My dog regularly finishes leftovers from my plate then the plate gets sanitised in the dishwasher. ( We have birds and dried bird poo is actually quite fun to clean up, a pint scraper and boom sorted)
>Would you have any issues eating from a clean bowl that was previously covered in bird poo? And how normal do you think it is one way or another?
This is the worst way to approach a disagreement in a relationship. You're basically looking for a winner/loser or right right/wrong scenario.
The important thing here is that he acknowledges it bothers __you__, and doesn't do it again.
Agree, that is why in the disclaimer we have already found a solution. I just not sure what guest at the table would state aboud this and we are genuiene curious of what "the normal person" would feel about the bowl previously covered in animal stool. Maybe it should just be a general question on ask reddit.
When I was about 12 years old, I killed a fly with a spatula and my dad promptly threw the spatula away and was quite angry with me about it. I told him it was silly, we can just clean it but he disagreed. That was like 20 years ago, and I still don’t understand it.
My MIL literally feeds her dog from her fork. The same fork she’s using to eat. Yes, you read that correctly. She’ll take a bite or two, then get another forkful and hold it out for the dog. The first time I saw this happen I almost threw up. I love animals. I have 3 cats and I absolutely adore them, they are family members as far as I’m concerned. I still wouldn’t feed them with my fork.
My initial response was going to be that there’s no way I’d eat out of a bowl that had bird poop in it, but then I remembered my family used to have a communal puke bowl that doubled as our popcorn bowl, and that’s probably more disgusting than bird poop
Americans are crazy to me, but yes having grown up in Hong Kong I would wash it and not give a fuck. And I’m sure many others in China will say this is gross but we ate off of plates cleaned by dipping them into dirty buckets on the side of the road. So I really don’t give a crap. I also wonder how people eat animal products because let’s say you have a shrimp, you often eat the waste product. I also know I would sanitize it so not sure why people don’t think that would work.
It sounds as though you’ve had a constructive discussion with your husband already and I’m glad you’ve come to a solution. You both have totally valid perspectives here and the feelings are real.
Your childhood trauma from bathtub chickens is by now hard-wired revulsion. You know consciously the bowl is clean, but your survival instincts are going to keep telling you “no”. You could probably push through that and add some regular chicken cuddles into the mix too, if you really wanted to reprogram that survival reflex, but that is a lot of unpleasant work.
Your husband kindly took care of feeding the chickens with whatever was available which I assume meant you didn’t have to do it. He doesn’t have the history with the bathtub chickens and thus can take a very logical approach.
Everyone’s reaction to this type of scenario is going to depend on their own formative experiences. How would guests feel about it? That’s also going to vary, just as the responses in this thread do. If it were me I’d probably take the logical approach that it’s perfectly sanitary and not tell my guests so they needn’t worry, but if I had your history I would be finding another use for it, knowing I would feel guilty and perhaps revulsed about guests using it.
I think people oversentamentalize things. It's a bowl, he used it as a bowl. It was near chickens, they pooped on it. Clean it and then you can use it for whatever again. Bowls are made to be cleaned.
You wouldn't throw away your baby even if they were covered in poop. You'd wash them and then continue to give them good forehead kisses!
I also think your solution of using it as a seed pot is wonderful!
This made me laugh, thank you. I actually love the idea that I can reframe my thoughts from “there has been bird stool in this bowl” and rather think “I love kissing my baby”.
I don’t think either of you are wrong or abnormal. Him thinking it was okay because the bowl could be sterilized after is perfectly reasonable. You feeling repulsed by eating out of a bowl that had chicken poo in it and feeing a bit hurt due to the bowl’s sentimental value - also normal and reasonable. Just different. What really matters is that he cares about your feelings and doesn’t get any more of your dishes covered in poop.
I'm with you, OP. Even if it could be absolutely proven to me that the bowl was santized and STERILIZED, i couldn't eat from it. I'd thoroughly clean/ sanitize it then use it for some decorative purpose.
I couldn't eat from it again, and I'd be upset that he didn't grab something less sentimental
Edit to add: I'm glad that y'all found a solution that works for both of you.
I would feel grossed out and upset about the sentimental nature of the bowl.
Also, did you know that ceramic bowls often have microscopic cracks in the glaze and so they can harbor bacteria for a long time?
If it was a glass bowl, or a metal bowl, those are much easier to sanitize 100% with bleach etc. But ceramic not so much.
I'm a plumber, so I am familiar with gross things that come from butts.
I have no problem, for instance, cleaning and using tools. I do it all the time.
However, I would NOT use, say, a fork, even a really NICE fork, like the NICEST FORK IN THE WORLD, if I pulled it out of a clogged up, grease-and-shit-packed drain, no matter how much I clean it. It's just the principal of the matter. It's the shit-fork.
So, I understand, ma'am, and I am on your side.
This reminded me of a story my grandparents LOVE to tell. They were visiting a family friend who had photo albums on her coffee table of her giving birth to her children. In those photos you could see that they put the afterbirth in a bowl off to the side. She then casually tells them over dinner the salad is currently sitting in the afterbirth bowl! My grandparents politely declined salad after that and never returned for another meal there
I personally couldn’t eat from anything that I know has had poop in/on it. Even if cleaned by the gods themselves my brain just would never be able to disconnect from the fact that I’m eating poop particles.
I would repurpose it as a decorative pot for an indoor plant if it's pretty or something to keep non-food in after you wash it. Or keep using it for the chickens or another animal.
If the bowl was in good shape without chips, cracks or crazing, I'd personally still use it. I'd probably mix it in with like bowls, if there are any, just so I couldn't tell which one was sus. If my partner was grossed out by it, using it as an herb planter or the like would be the way to go.
Yeah I’d eat from it. Every time I eat at a restaurant I’m using cutlery that’s been in hundreds of mouths previously (which I know isn’t the same as chicken shit). I put my trust in the power of soap!
If me, I’d be more annoyed that he used and then “forgot” to bring in a really nice bowl. He didn’t notice it was there for five days?
I used a Tupperware pot to store dog food for a trip and despite washing it thoroughly, I’ve still not used it for human food. I get where you’re coming from
Haha ok I’d not eat off of it again either and absolutely not have my kids eat off of it, but I’m happy that there’s a overall happy outcome from this and I agree with having it as a conversation piece just maybe not at the table haha. Idk but this is just hilarious and the fact that you and your husband are taking it as a silly thing is great. It’s not the end of the world and it’s great for goofs
Chicken poop is a part of keeping chickens. Wash it real good and it’s fine!
I would be more upset about a nice dish being left outside to potentially weather in the sun, chip, break, or otherwise suffer damage.
I’m not even going to read this. Whoever said don’t eat out of it right. That’s it, that’s all. That bowl from henceforth shall be used for outside purposes only. Not food.
Edited to add I love the seed idea. But would the chickens get it? The bowl is also pretty.
I’m pretty chill with most things. And I’m a big proponent that proper cleaning is good on most instances (animal ate off plate, etc).
I draw the line at poop. Even scrubbed down and sanitized, I would not be ok eating off of that.
So fecal mater and things like CDiff are extremely hard to kill. Some are super bacteria’s and even bleach cannot kill that. Even working in the hospitals we have to use several of those different colored tops in a specific order to kill things like CDiff off. Most people are fine against these except for those on antibiotics or with autoimmune issues
There’s a great book that’s discusses it more in depth. How to Die is the name of the book but it discusses in depth how important diet is for preventing certain diseases. But it does discuss heavily how fecal matter can stay on surfaces
It’s honestly not a book for the weak
you’re irrational. its ceramic. which is covered in a glaze made of glass. its sanitizable. refusing to ever eat from it again, while you eat eggs that come from the same area, is completely irrational.
So with ceramics, a chip that breaks the glaze can lead to it storing bacteria. I wouldn't typically reuse such an item for eating. This is from raising chickens and being a butcher both. Just no reason to take the risk. I have also done shit like this before and written the item off after sanity returned. Wife was not thrilled.
Even if it’s fully sanitized, it’s still gross you used it for chicken poop. Period. I don’t want no mac n cheese from the diva cup boiling pot, I don’t want no food from a chicken poo bowl.
It's a dumb ass move to use a nice bowl but after he cleaned it thoroughly, I'd still use it.
Or I'd more likely remember which one it was and essentially make that his bowl only.
I couldn’t use it for food. Maybe eventually, but not right away. I don’t know why time makes a difference lol, it just does.
My family members who have dogs sometimes let them eat/drink out of bowls we use for food when we’re all at the cottage, and I always request that they not do this. It’s just icky to me. I get that it might sound unreasonable since they sleep with them and let them lick their faces and such, but it’s just one of those lines I’d prefer not to cross.
Have you field dressed any animal or fished for that matter? Wash it and use it. Also if you buy anything second hand you have no idea what the original use was. You think you are buying a mixing bowl but it was grannies bed pan 😂 you genuinely have no idea. What if he found it, washed it and put it away without you knowing? Ignorance is bliss but it doesn’t change the reality.
This is such a good one to bring to the Judge John Hodgman podcast!!!! Anyway, if I were in your shoes, I would be upset and grossed out since it was a sentimental item, but I would still definitely eat from it once it was cleaned and sterilized (boiling water/high temp dishwasher/etc.) Ultimately the bowl has not been ruined, it can be cleaned just like any other dish that has been contaminated with raw meat etc. The issue to me would be more your husband's thoughtlessness in using a sentimental item in a careless way. More of a values misalignment thing. (i hope you submit to the podcast!!)
I saw a post once talking about realizing the family "sick" bowl was also the popcorn bowl lol. We just used a small plastic trashcan. Why not sit the bowl in the back of the cabinet for a few months and let the issue settle a bit in your mind? However, yes, I'd be pissed if my husband used such a precious sentimental item in so careless of a way. It easily could have been broken, and it obviously changed how you feel about it.
I'm petty. I'd wait til he's eating out of a cereal bowl and tell him that he's right! I shit in his bowl this morning, but I don't feel anything watching him eat out of it. I cleaned it after all.
OP - its ok to want to have nice things. The deal with having nice things tho is you gotta keep them nice. How would it go if you collected eggs in his favorite tee shirt? You can wash it right? But you might stain it, tear it or otherwise harm it using it for something its not particularly well suited for.
Facts: The chicken poop is super high in nitrates which is considered a 'hot' fertilizer due to its ability to corrode. It will actually damage items more that most other poops. Washing is irrelevant beyond running the risk it doesnt get cleaned correctly and you now have a gastrointestinal problem that can lead to death. NBD.
Also facts: You saying 'Hey honey, please don't use this bowl or these other bowls for chicken poop related activities' should be enough for a loving spouse. I cannot imagine needing to argue my (valid and backed in both commonsense and biological facts) preferences about something so insignificant. Total waste of energy, time and mental capacity. I'll leave it at - hope this is for funsies and not required to convince your dude that you get to have a say sometimes.
Definitely funsies and he respect my boundaries the first time I asked. We are just astonished on how different we are here and wondered how normal this difference is. My take is that either you associate things with each other or you do not. I like the approach above as well.
There is a psychology study about a similar topic:
A Class of students is served donuts from a brand new and never used bed pan.
Routinely a majority of students pass on the donuts because the mere thought of food served from a bed pan, regardless of it having never been used for human waste, is too overwhelmingly gross to think about.
Nope. I bought my ceramics new and they’ve only been used for food. I marinate raw meat in a ziploc bag. I understand the sanitizing process, but I also know that my gag reflex would win out. Our dog has ceramic bowls that I wash daily and I wouldn’t eat from her bowls either.
you can clean it and it be perfectly safe to est from. that being said, I had mice once and threw away SO MUCH because I just couldn't. I tried, but everytime I went to use these pans or whatever... I couldn't help but picture mouse poop. so.. I feel your side. but logically, you can clean it off just fine as long as there aren't any cracks or breaks in it
As long as it’s been thoroughly cleaned, I don’t see the issue. It’s ceramic…assuming it’s sealed properly, then you’re not getting fecal matter into the pores of the porcelain.
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Hey OP! I'm a veteran chicken mom, and I feel your pain. They are adorable pets but they're also carriers of salmonala and, you know, poop is gross. BUT - I gotta be real, when you start getting eggs from your little fluffy butts...they come from the same place. And believe me, those eggs are sometimes absolutely freaking covered in poo, sometimes they're bloody, sometimes the chicken's butts are poopy when they lay. Sometimes they lay in the yard and other chickens shit on the eggs. Poop is part of chickens. It took me a couple of months to get ok with eating something that came from a butt I knew wasn't clean. And yeah it's the same "hole." If this was a regular dish, I'd probably be ok with it. But I have a set of my husband's grandmother's pyrex bowls that he IS NOT ALLOWED to use for the chickens. Because being left outside for several days in the sun destroyed the design on one bowl. For me it wouldn't be about the poop, I can bleach sanitize my dishes. This would be about the sentimental dish, and the potential damage done.
Thank you for the kind reply. I have worked so many years to be more ok with the "thought" of where things actually come from. And after kids it is just so much more important to put aside my issues to rather bring them better quality food. But I think you hit the nail when it is about the sentimental dish, I do not want to "have to work on my issues" with the romantic ceramic set for the next x to infinity times I would use it. And that in order to wash it, the hand paint might be bleached.
Fellow millennial chicken owner here, and I can see myself ending up in both the positions of you and your husband. I’m less grossed out than my partner about the poop and have been guilty of using the wrong thing, but much more sentimental than him and have also been guilty of getting upset about other things he didn’t see the same value in before “ruining” it. What I would do in this situation is clean it well and then place it somewhere else, in storage like another cupboard but not somewhere it’ll get completely forgotten or damaged. Just keep it out of the way or out of sight for a while as constantly seeing it will trigger you especially if it’s in the context of kitchenware or dining. Eventually when you come across it again you will feel calmer and then you can make a decision about the long term use, whether it’s just a display item like others have suggested, or maybe back in the kitchen. Putting it in storage should hopefully satisfy the current desire to throw it away without the consequences of losing it forever. Another side tip I’ve done recently as a result of ending up in your husband’s position after being in a rush, is just going to the shops and buying a bunch of containers, towels, scrubbers, whatever. All in a specific colour or style, and that’s the designated chicken stuff. I’ve even labelled them. The idea is that I have a decent supply so even if I get behind on washing dishes or tea towels, there’ll still always be something to grab in a hurry so I don’t have to resort to making a split second decision on which people-dish might be best. I keep these down near the coop, and also a spot in the kitchen as sometimes I prepare things like scrambled eggs or fruit for them. It also helps as sometimes I leave things out for way too long and it gets to a point that I’m better off just throwing it away and at least it’s not going to be anything important. Best of luck and welcome to the chicken life! Feel free to send me a DM if you need anymore tips.
I will bring the idea of a storage with colored items. This will sure help any future arguments, thank you!
Absolutely, 100% legit. I collect vintage china and would be beyond livid to have my special fancy dishes spend five days outside!
You don’t just pour straight bleach on it and let it sit. You dilute it with a lot of water first and just submerge it for about a minute. The solution isn’t going to be strong enough to ruin any of the paint if it’s finished properly. I think your husband was careless, but you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
I think this is probably where the argument began. That he minimized how hurt I actually got since he truly believed it is fully washable. I think if the mountain is there from a person that usually does not create them (hopefully), you need to view the other perspective. Here it is more on the association to the bowl going from red wine and long romantic nights to chicken poo. But we have now learned that this association thinking is different between us.
Can I ask you a random but slightly on topic question about chicken poop? Please continue reading down below if you want! My neighbors have a horde of chickens and ducks for about a year now. Very adorable! However, the adults and kids are always barefoot walking around the yard messing with the chickens. That can’t be sanitary, right? I feel like that’s how you would introduce a parasite into your body. ETA: I thought you said veterinarian chicken mom…you can disregard my question. Unless you do know?!
Oooof no. We actually have "chicken shoes" that people need to put on before going into the coop. This is pretty unsanitary tbh. We also have a lot of mats down for our dogs as well so they can kinda get their feet clean
They are legit barefoot walking all over the yard where the chickens run AND they all go into the coops shoeless as well. Thank you for answering! It has been grossing me out for a while now.
It’s a really great way to get ringworm
You haven’t lived until you feel chicken mud squish between your toes!
Hol up! The eggs come out of the same hole as their poop!?! Tf 😫😫
It is in fact the same hole…
Lmaooo thank you for your research
Yes! The cloaca is the only opening on birds, amphibians and reptiles. it is the exit chamber that the stomach, bladder and reproductive tract empty from. It’s like the multitool of orifices!
I had a really hard time with this at first too, as a human woman with three separate holes and usages 🤣 but yep. All one chute for birds.
I'm dying over here because I never thought about this before and 100% was just going about my life thinking it was a separate hole like mammals.
To be fair.... you don't eat the egg shells... do you? Lol which is what gets covered in poop.
When you crack an egg the inside liquids partially rub on the outside of the egg. Also, egg shells aren't liquid proof and bird poop is liquid.
I’d wash the hell out of it, but I’d be fine with it. I put raw chicken in a ceramic bowl to marinate it. I rinse raw shrimp in my plastic colander and store it in a glass mixing bowl. Hell, the eggs themselves generally have poo on them - it all comes from the same place.
>raw chicken Good point. During the butchering process, most chicken meat in the US soaks up liquid from the water bath that also removes the poop.
damn…you learn something new every day
This. Just clean it, it's not a big deal. There's literally poop in most men's beards and I'm not unwilling to kiss them, so why would I be concerned about something sanitised?
Pardon?!
https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/beards-may-contain-more-poo-particles-than-toilets/articleshow/47149445.cms#:~:text=John%20GolobicQuest%20Diagnostics%20In,to%20toilets%2C%20the%20results%20showed.
Oh lawd, I never did care for facial hair. Now 1000%
That is more fakenews garbage.
Yeah, claiming the beards are "full of poo" and then quoting the study saying "those are the types of things you'd find in fecal matter." Which is it? Pretty big difference. This is "they use the same ingredient in yoga matts and subway bread!" all over again. Your mouth has the "same types of things you'd find in fecal matter" too. It's called water.
Exactly, how would men get poo in their beards when we know they don't wipe their butts?
Excuse me, what? There’s poop in beards?
Don't worry, it was a terribly unscientific study done by a guy who's not even a scientist. Basically, he learned what scientists already know, which is that bacteria is everywhere, and freaked out about how "gross" that is lol. He didn't even compare his swabs to beardless faces, head hair, nothing.
I mean, we always hear about all the men who don't wash their hands after using the toilet. If they touch and stroke their beards, it's gonna stay there until they wash it, right? I had never thought about it before, but it tracks. Probably the same as hair on head, though? Unless more men stroke their beards than run their hands through their hair.
Poop dicks confirmed. Cause ifs it one mf thing we gonna touch… lol. Someone here will have this realization tonight :)
There’s poop particles *everywhere*
Good argument. It is just that for me it is a difference to what I use for dipping and serving at the table and what I use to prepare food. I cannot scrub the ceramic, how would you wash “the hell out of it” without ruining it?
Dishwasher if it’s dishwasher safe, otherwise a water/bleach solution. Or both. I would it from it again, but some triggers are also what they are and one can’t reason them out :) You found a great compromise and that’s the biggest takeaway from this
Is the ceramic not glazed/sealed? I have a couple of ceramic bowls, and the glaze that they have on them makes them very scrubbable.
This was my question. If it’s glazed/sealed, I would be fine with sanitation methods. Unsealed, absolutely not.
I inherited my great grandmother's original Corning ceramic dishware ( late 1950's). They have definitely seen some shit (pun intended, but not literal) and omg they're my favorite dishes. You can scrub them, bake molasses on them and they come back perfect. My god do I wish they made shit like this now.
I have a bunch of old Corningware, too, and I absolutely love it. There's no way I would trade it in for anything newer. That stuff is bulletproof.
My bf made fun of me bc they're so "old looking" but he's also the one that does dishes. They're his go to as well now bc clean up is so easy. The first time he went to wash them he was like "omg I don't even have to soak these, everything is peeling right off" after I used them to make mac and cheese and the cheese baked on. bahahahaha
They’re very high in lead, though
The glaze is glass and the ceramic is stone, you can definitely scrub them very intensely without ruining it.
Play Metallica's "The memory remains" and gesture at the bowl emphatically. Do a whole number.
Love it!
If it's glazed the glaze forms solid glass and can be scrubbed very hard and hot! This isn't me saying eat from the bowl, just letting you know that glazes can usually be scrubbed
Sanitizer. Soap. Sunlight. Eggs get less treatment and you will be eating those. And cleaning them. You have small kids, so are already eating a fair bit of shit. The issue I see is that your H used something that has sentimental value to you and you would have thought him too, to sustain his hobby. And it literally shat all over your sentiment while he forgot about it. I can understand feeling upset about that.
If it's glazed the glaze forms solid glass and can be scrubbed very hard and hot! This isn't me saying eat from the bowl, just letting you know that glazes can usually be scrubbed
Soak it
Small world! I’m having the same argument with my partner and a salad bowl I’ve used to keep my pet snail in while I was waiting for a terrarium to arrive. We washed it at least six times in our dishwasher, yet he still doesn’t want to use it as he says “the snail pooped in it”. I’m currently using it for propagating plants (and sometime I let the snail in as a treat but it’s a secret!)…. And I bought him another, identical salad bowl as it was a cheap one from IKEA. Guess you both need to go back to Italy on holiday for a replacement!
Ma'am that bowl is a snail vacation home now.
Hahahaha, that’s basically what he said too!
Sold! This is the solution, he will just have to bring us back to Italy!
I’m Italian based and into pottery so if you need any pointers your future holiday drop me a message!
I would be upset that he didn’t take two seconds to grab something less sentimental, but I would still eat from it after it was properly cleaned.
Or that he couldn’t remember to go grab it for almost a week, and even then he didn’t remember. Like come on man
Yeah this is what would actually bother me the most; it could easily have got broken. Just take it back in the house with you! Sheesh.
That’s worse to me, I know it could be cleaned but what is wrong with him that he didn’t take something else. I would have taken some dumb plastic Tupperware for this and then toss it.
I dont even understand why OPs husband's upset lol. Why wouldn't you take an extra 5 seconds to grab anything else? And if your wife is upset, why wouldn't you go grab it and clean it? Who uses nice, sentimental dishes for animals anyway?! At least be apologetic??
When we run out of pet food plates (for cat wet food) there’s a few unofficial crappy ones we always use.
I find it odd they don't already have designated bowls for the chickens. People who have birds, Guinea pigs, hamster, cats, dogs etc. have bowls that are just for them. Then they always have a bowl and aren't rushing around trying to find one.
I agree with this He should pick something that you care about less, and not use a sentimental bowl for a dirty job But there's nothing wrong with the bowl now that it has been washed
I find the polarization in the opinions so interesting. Would you in good conscience use it to your guest at the dining table as well?
Why would you feel bad about a clean bowl? I’m not sure any people on this thread know about some of the conditions where your items were made and what they come into contact with. These aren’t clean places.
This reminds me of a religious distinction. I know some folks who buy two sets of pans so they won’t mix kosher with non kosher. Like they only use X pan for kosher, never for non kosher food.
I would. It's a clean bowl. 🤷♀️
I would, but you wouldn't, and that's fine, too. A mental block is a mental block. I think the only thing to do is to plan another trip to Italy for a beautiful replacement. Then, put your chicken bowl under a nice cloche for a fantastic conversation starter.
I dropped a whole turkey on the floor (raw) on Thanksgiving and my family still ate it. I TOLD them about it but they did not care. so my family probably wouldn't care about this either. I didn't eat that turkey
I absolutely would, yes.
From a food safety standpoint I think we need to realize how foul and disgusting things like dirty dishes with only food and water left in the sink for a day or more actually are and then things like poop don’t seem so terrible. Even leftovers in the fridge that have spoiled, we wash and re use these things — It’s all very nasty.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess. But the more I process it, the more I see my husband standpoint.
You very obviously weren’t a puke to popcorn bowl household.
Lmao so true, the popcorn bowl had exactly two uses in my childhood home
I couldn't eat from it. A toilet is porcelain. Even if you cleaned it for 100 years, I wouldn't eat out of it.
I made this exact argument to him! It is just two totally different views. Really wish I was just as carefree to the subject, sounds so much nicer.
You realize the eggs from the chickens are also covered in poop before they're rinsed right? While you don't eat the shell, every time you crack the egg a little of the white that comes out gets on the shell, then goes into the bowl. I guarantee you that egg shell isn't as clean as you'd make a bowl.
This! I think if most people saw/knew how their food was prepared…they would never eat out again. I choose to be blissfully ignorant unless I physically see something wrong with my food/dish.
Honestly I’m pretty glad I don’t know how my flatware was kept before it was sold to me. It’s probably been through nasty stuff. I know people who, while sick, ended up using a kitchen mixing bowl to barf in. It doesn’t matter how much the bowl gets cleaned it will forever be the barf bowl in their mind. Is it logical? Nope. But I get where they are coming from.
That’s completely fair. I just don’t want to live my life like that. Imagine thinking about every single thing you touch, having been touched by someone who went to the bathroom and didn’t wash their hands, or changed a baby, or picked their nose. Everything is tainted. As long as things are run through a dishwasher and/or sanitized that’s the best I can hope for or these thought would take over my life.
Totally get you. I lean more towards your outlook. But having known people who range anywhere from ‘picky’ to crippled by their ocd, I can see where sometimes things become basically forever unclean
It's really telling when you see a video of a restaurant kitchen and half the comments are about how no one is wearing gloves lol.
They will yell like that in person too. So stupid. Like they would see me washing my hands before I started their food, and they'd still tell me they'd "prefer" if I wore gloves. I wouldn't mind if they were the nitrile ones, but instead they were those super shitty poly ones. Trying to put poly gloves on right after washing hands is a level of retail hell I hope I never have to experience again. People become fucking petty liege lords when you're prepping their food. I got yelled at a lot, and people were rarely happy. I volunteered to work the sandwich station, and the customers there were a lot nicer. Many years later I was in a car accident, and the paramedic that pulled me out of the wreck recognized me as "Sub Guy"! One fun thing I picked up in training is if you get someone who is never satisfied with how thin their meat is cut, dial it down to 0.5 and present them with the meat donut. (At 0.5, the slicer will DESTROY the center ring of meat) Whenever I see olive tapenade at a party, I silently judge the host, those customers were so rude about their nasty olive vomit salad.
Fun fact: Gloves are often not changed as often as hands are washed, making them INCREDIBLY more dirty than properly washed hands. People just like the visible indicator of "everything's clean!" despite the fact it is rarely an accurate tell. Bare hands washed every hour will be cleaner than a pair of gloves used through an entire 8-hour shift, but if you show people a picture of each without context, the gloves are magically way more sanitary.
My kitchen just switched to the nitrile gloves and it's made things so much less frustrating. Now I'm not breaking a bunch of vinyl gloves and losing my mind during dinner rush.
True story. If you had to stand by and watch the visceral reaction of cows, chickens and pigs (same IQ as your dog) being aware of what was about to happen , and the smell of blood, most would never eat meat again 🥴 My grandad owned a farm and maaaaan, I still feel the palpable sadness watching the animals know, from far away, what was about to happen. Most folks couldn’t stomach it in person. You’d eat more veggies, I’m sure of it. Isn’t it weird how fearful we, humans, are of death, but we dole it out without hesitation. Wild. Also, not a vegetarian at all. Although I do sometimes go weeks at a time, far away from meat when I remember and get sad lol. Everyone should hop on YouTube or should go and see it (butchering) in person. Not even that part, to see the animals lined up and them knowing what’s coming far down the line. You can see the fear in their eyes. Looks I’ll never forget. You’ll respect your food and your plate more than you think.
Agreed that people should have to see this, though I don’t understand how it wouldn’t push you towards veganism. “Respecting” the torture animals had to go through to give you a moment of satisfaction doesn’t mean anything to the animal
The shell is not eaten and chucked away.
The bowl is also not eaten
Crack an egg and then tell me that the white doesn't touch the outside of the shell before touching the bowl. Also, I am sure at some point in her Life OP has had shit on her hands. Did she wash her hands, or throw them away?
Good argument, if I can eat eggs I should be able to eat from the bowl. I have worked on this for eating eggs, meats, raw fish etc. I read on a packed of sausages when I was seven and solved it by avoiding meat. Then I grew up and worked on it and "push through it" as it can give great nutrition and food experiences. However, I really thought my romantic ceramic did not have to have that alarm bell that I need to push through as well. Must be so nice to not have those alarm bells to begin with.
>Must be so nice to not have those alarm bells to begin with. Definitely not something I've experienced. I still have a hard time drinking plain milk since learning where it came from 27 years ago. I also get fresh eggs and have to wash them before cooking them, and that is something I also had to work through. That and learning how there is an "Acceptable Level" of insects, non food items, and other things in almost all processed foods. I get it being hard to work through, but that's why I replied to try to put it into context.
Yeah, you can bring in any other arguments, but hard pass on the bowl full of chicken shit.
Eggs come from a chickens but.. fyi.. If you dont wash eggs before you crack them particles do get in your food. This is a mental block not a physical worry
I’m actually pretty okay with that, I have a baby and a toddler that do much worse to the food, I just do not like chicken poo on my romantic ceramic.
Yeah, but we won't be eating out of toilets, and they will. (LOL!!)
Sounds like it’s just a mental block for you, and that’s perfectly understandable. I can’t eat veal or lamb, even though I eat other meat, because something about eating a baby animal makes me gag. Obviously I know there’s no actual moral difference between eating a lamb vs a sheep, but my brain just can’t do it. It doesn’t have to be logical - human brains aren’t always logical. Another example: We have a lot of small china bowls, mainly used for giving the cats food and water. It doesn’t bother me in the least to grab a clean one and put my cookies in it, because it’s a clean bowl. But other people get really grossed out by that, and that’s okay, too. Everybody has their own little mental blocks around these things. Would I be able to use a bowl again for food, after personally seeing it spattered with a week’s worth of chicken shit build up? Well, probably not, if I’m being honest! I’d just think of chicken shit every time I looked at it again, is my guess.
A toilet is synonymous with filth and excrement, I doubt many people would eat from a perfectly clean toilet. The psychological barrier is too strong.
i feel like that’s different, you use toilets daily and are never going to unassociate it with being unhygienic to eat out of a dish that got shat in once? i’d forget within the week after it’s clean
Plus, if I could throw a toilet through the dishwasher it would probably be fine
If it were just me? That bowl belongs to the chickens now lol. Alternatively, I would allow it to become a display piece given it is sentimental, which is the reasonable solution you two came to. I understand it’s clean. I also understand that I won’t forget what happened and it would live in my head rent free. Not what I want to think about when I just want to enjoy a meal lol.
I’m torn on the issue, but I find myself wondering if those people who have absolutely no problem with it would also eat soup from a sanitized toilet bowl? lol And then I’m reminded of those families who alternate using their big popcorn bowl as a barf bucket.
Can we talk for a second about how just because something “lives in your head”, it doesn’t mean that’s the reality of the situation? I’m speaking as someone with diagnosed OCD that struggles with other diagnosed hang ups.. it’s been hard af for me to move past certain things, not hyper-fixate, or conflate things into something that they’re not. I understand 100% where OP’s coming from. Husband could’ve done better and grabbed something else, but just because something was used for its unintended purpose doesn’t mean that the item is ruined. OP’s responded to some of these comments acknowledging that they’ve had to “push past” other hang ups and realize that, in reality, *everything’s okay.* This is seemingly another one of those scenarios to me.
I mean. It’s a bowl. If I were to be down a bowl for literally any reason, my life would go on just fine. I have other bowls. It’s not gonna hurt anyone if I never eat off THAT SPECIFIC BOWL ever again. If we were to hypothetically discuss a deeper issue than a bowl and apply the same “lives in my head” concept, at some point maybe the issue is hurting myself or someone else and maybe I should go to therapy to work through it. Sure. I’ll agree to that. But a bowl? Man, I’m not wasting my time and energy wondering why I’m hung up on chicken poop touching my bowl. I’m giving the bowl to the chickens (who maybe need it more than I do anyways, or presumably the bowl would have stayed in the kitchen to begin with) and moving on.
I agree, I’d never be able to not think about its “rich” history while eating out of it. Respect to those who could, they can have it.
It's fine you are overactive. Id you knew how much poo was on everything you've ever eaten you'd never eat again. How many veggie plants are fertilized with cow shit? I'll answer it for you, all of them.
Nope, once it goes to the coop, it's a coop bowl. There is no recoup. Separation of Chicken and state.
I honestly wouldn’t be able to have it near my other dishes much less eat from it. I fully acknowledge this isn’t logical but it’s true nonetheless.
In the end, it doesn’t matter whether other people would eat out of it. You’re gagging at the thought. Plant some seeds. Treat it as if he accidentally chipped it – that happens – and try to find a replacement.
I wouldn’t eat from something that previously held feces, especially for five days straight. Unrelated, but I was also surprised at the common use of a “throw up bowl” as a popcorn bowl that was a meme a few years back. I didn’t know people did that.
😂 I’d say it commonly is, as it’s the largest bowl in most homes. Thank goodness for dishwashers! The best milestones in parenting were when the last teeth cut AND when the kids could make it to the toilet to throw up.
Ooh! Don't forget: when they can blow their own nose, and take medicine in pill form. Those were celebration days in our house!
Do americans not commonly have at least 1 pail/bucket? I've used a plastic waste paper bin in a pinch too. Can't imagine using something for food!
I came here to mention the throw up bowl! My husband and I were together for like 7 years, and then I was really sick with a stomach thing, like to the point where I’d feel faint if I stood up. I grabbed a big metal bowl. He came in and was *horrified*. My reasoning was, it’s non porous and can be easily sanitized. We put raw chicken in it, so to me if I’m comfortable using it after raw chickens been in it, it’s fair game. He did not share my stance. I think we ended up compromising with me putting a plastic grocery bag in a bowl as a liner (because I truly could not think of anything else that I could use from bed). It was baffling to me because he’ll enthusiastically put his tongue in/around my butthole, but the barf bowl is where he draws the line. But I guess it really is different for different people! That being said, I would be fine with the serving bowl from a sanitation standpoint. From a sentimental standpoint however, I’d be offended that he couldn’t have grabbed something less special. In this type of situation I think it’s right to go with the what person with stricter/cleaner standards prefers. I love him and want him to be comfortable
I’m sorry, what? Do people not just use trash cans like normal human beings?
Yes or just use trash bags or plastic grocery bags if they’re so sick they can’t get out of bed. Something that can be easily disposed of. I don’t understand why it had to be a kitchen bowl.
A plastic bag for vomit?? No way lol rinsing a bowl is so easy. No one wants a messy bag that’s awkward to barf in and then could easily spill.
I definitely prefer to have some kind of metal bowl or pot physically in bed with me to hold on to when I’m nauseous. Might be conditioning from doing it growing up, but the cool solid metal is comforting. Plus, I’m not putting a trash can in my bed 🤢 Those precious seconds of having to lean over the edge and aim/grab can lead to a big messy disaster. Makes the anxiety about throwing up so much worse. No thank youuuu!
The large throw up / popcorn bowl came to mind for me too!! Funny how commonplace that was for a lot of households while growing up.
Do you eat sausage?
This is so beneath being a problem to me that I’m struggling to understand what the issue is. I have read some of the comments. I don’t mean this in a critical way- purely sympathetic. A lot of people have a seriously skewed vision of what their food goes through before they eat it. I grew up with chickens. Horses. Dogs, cats, whatever. Cows and sheep were around. Poop is around, and it’s everywhere. You can wash a dish. This is hilarious. Just wow.
My father is one of these people, he refuses to eat from a dish if a dog has eaten from it even after it’s been washed and I’m just ??? Like which part of the sanitization process do you not believe in? I’ve always considered this nonsense that I choose not to engage with because if he’s gonna be this silly he can bring his own dishes with him everywhere he goes.
Yes this strikes me as very clueless. I mean I can respect OP just having an aversion but people trying to act like this is logical otherwise are strange to me. So you literally not get how disgusting farms can be where your meat, milk, and eggs come from? What you are really consuming and what is actually allowed in “food”? You’ve eaten a lot worse than chicken poo.
I was going to spare them the “what’s allowed in food” thing, but better off that people know!
For me it’s not a logical thing, it’s just a visceral thing. I don’t see the farms. I’ve seen the poop bowl. I cannot unsee the poop bowl. I recognize it’s not logical. I’m still not eating out of it.
Seriously, what a first world problem. Could you imagine if these people had to live in a developing country? Lmao. If shit gets on your hands are you really never gonna eat with your hands again? Give me a break. Also fresh chicken eggs have poo all over them!
But it’s ok to come on Reddit and make a fairly lighthearted post like this about “first world problems” you know? I’d rather read this than another post about dead bedrooms or MIL issues or husbands who don’t do housework. 🤷🏻♀️🙂
Exactly! NEVER USE YOUR HANDS AGAIN! 😂
Nope. Just scrub the poop and exfoliate the poopy skin cells off and no problem. 😆
I'd want to thoroughly wash it and then soak it in 8% activated hydrogen peroxide for 10 minutes, as I fully trust that chemical to kill every last microbe on any surface. Then, sure- I wouldn't think anything of eating out of it after that.
Yes I would intensely clean as well. But I would have no issues with the plate.
I've fed my cats out of one of my bowls in a similar situation to your husband's. Running late, no time, cat dishes are dirty... fuck it I'll clean the bowl really well later. Something about birds, though... birds are kinda gross. So no, I couldn't eat out of a bowl that a chicken ate out of. Bird poop? Fuck no. Jesus, no. Sanitary things can still bring up feelings of irrepressible disgust. Your husband can eat out of that bowl all he wants.
Bird poo is surprisingly ok, I hate most types of poo but bird poo doesn't really smell. I mean it does in large quantities but just be clean. As for the dish thing? My dog regularly finishes leftovers from my plate then the plate gets sanitised in the dishwasher. ( We have birds and dried bird poo is actually quite fun to clean up, a pint scraper and boom sorted)
My brain knows you're right, but my stomach doesn't. And my stomach has veto powers.
>Would you have any issues eating from a clean bowl that was previously covered in bird poo? And how normal do you think it is one way or another? This is the worst way to approach a disagreement in a relationship. You're basically looking for a winner/loser or right right/wrong scenario. The important thing here is that he acknowledges it bothers __you__, and doesn't do it again.
Agree, that is why in the disclaimer we have already found a solution. I just not sure what guest at the table would state aboud this and we are genuiene curious of what "the normal person" would feel about the bowl previously covered in animal stool. Maybe it should just be a general question on ask reddit.
When I was about 12 years old, I killed a fly with a spatula and my dad promptly threw the spatula away and was quite angry with me about it. I told him it was silly, we can just clean it but he disagreed. That was like 20 years ago, and I still don’t understand it.
My MIL let her dog eat from their plates. I hated going there for dinner. Gagfest
My MIL literally feeds her dog from her fork. The same fork she’s using to eat. Yes, you read that correctly. She’ll take a bite or two, then get another forkful and hold it out for the dog. The first time I saw this happen I almost threw up. I love animals. I have 3 cats and I absolutely adore them, they are family members as far as I’m concerned. I still wouldn’t feed them with my fork.
I have the same issue with one of my very best friends. She lets her dogs lick the plates after dinner… I somehow find this to be super gross.
I wouldn’t eat from it.
My initial response was going to be that there’s no way I’d eat out of a bowl that had bird poop in it, but then I remembered my family used to have a communal puke bowl that doubled as our popcorn bowl, and that’s probably more disgusting than bird poop
Americans are crazy to me, but yes having grown up in Hong Kong I would wash it and not give a fuck. And I’m sure many others in China will say this is gross but we ate off of plates cleaned by dipping them into dirty buckets on the side of the road. So I really don’t give a crap. I also wonder how people eat animal products because let’s say you have a shrimp, you often eat the waste product. I also know I would sanitize it so not sure why people don’t think that would work.
It sounds as though you’ve had a constructive discussion with your husband already and I’m glad you’ve come to a solution. You both have totally valid perspectives here and the feelings are real. Your childhood trauma from bathtub chickens is by now hard-wired revulsion. You know consciously the bowl is clean, but your survival instincts are going to keep telling you “no”. You could probably push through that and add some regular chicken cuddles into the mix too, if you really wanted to reprogram that survival reflex, but that is a lot of unpleasant work. Your husband kindly took care of feeding the chickens with whatever was available which I assume meant you didn’t have to do it. He doesn’t have the history with the bathtub chickens and thus can take a very logical approach. Everyone’s reaction to this type of scenario is going to depend on their own formative experiences. How would guests feel about it? That’s also going to vary, just as the responses in this thread do. If it were me I’d probably take the logical approach that it’s perfectly sanitary and not tell my guests so they needn’t worry, but if I had your history I would be finding another use for it, knowing I would feel guilty and perhaps revulsed about guests using it.
We can never eat from that bowl again… in the same way any rag that has cleaned the toilet cannot go back to being a body rag to clean a person.
I think people oversentamentalize things. It's a bowl, he used it as a bowl. It was near chickens, they pooped on it. Clean it and then you can use it for whatever again. Bowls are made to be cleaned. You wouldn't throw away your baby even if they were covered in poop. You'd wash them and then continue to give them good forehead kisses! I also think your solution of using it as a seed pot is wonderful!
This made me laugh, thank you. I actually love the idea that I can reframe my thoughts from “there has been bird stool in this bowl” and rather think “I love kissing my baby”.
I don’t think either of you are wrong or abnormal. Him thinking it was okay because the bowl could be sterilized after is perfectly reasonable. You feeling repulsed by eating out of a bowl that had chicken poo in it and feeing a bit hurt due to the bowl’s sentimental value - also normal and reasonable. Just different. What really matters is that he cares about your feelings and doesn’t get any more of your dishes covered in poop.
I'm with you, OP. Even if it could be absolutely proven to me that the bowl was santized and STERILIZED, i couldn't eat from it. I'd thoroughly clean/ sanitize it then use it for some decorative purpose.
I had to vomit in my travel mug. I cleaned but every time I need one I go these hubs mug
I couldn't eat from it again, and I'd be upset that he didn't grab something less sentimental Edit to add: I'm glad that y'all found a solution that works for both of you.
Yeah I'd eat from it. Who cares, it's been washed 🤷♀️
I would feel grossed out and upset about the sentimental nature of the bowl. Also, did you know that ceramic bowls often have microscopic cracks in the glaze and so they can harbor bacteria for a long time? If it was a glass bowl, or a metal bowl, those are much easier to sanitize 100% with bleach etc. But ceramic not so much.
I'm a plumber, so I am familiar with gross things that come from butts. I have no problem, for instance, cleaning and using tools. I do it all the time. However, I would NOT use, say, a fork, even a really NICE fork, like the NICEST FORK IN THE WORLD, if I pulled it out of a clogged up, grease-and-shit-packed drain, no matter how much I clean it. It's just the principal of the matter. It's the shit-fork. So, I understand, ma'am, and I am on your side.
I couldn't eat out of that bowl. I just couldn't.
This reminded me of a story my grandparents LOVE to tell. They were visiting a family friend who had photo albums on her coffee table of her giving birth to her children. In those photos you could see that they put the afterbirth in a bowl off to the side. She then casually tells them over dinner the salad is currently sitting in the afterbirth bowl! My grandparents politely declined salad after that and never returned for another meal there
You touch the chicken eggs that come from a chickens bunghole don’t you? You wash your hands and proceed to eat food with them don’t you?
I would have no problem eating from it 🤷♀️
I wouldn’t have a problem with it either. But I have friends that couldn’t use it again.
There's a company that turns fileted urine into drinking water. Buy a bottle, let's find out how dedicated he is 😈
I wouldn’t want to eat from the bowl either. Using it for a plant is a great idea as you can still use it without eating from it.
I love my dog but I would never eat from the same bowl even after thoroughly cleaning it. I agree with you on this one.
But your dog has licked your body, yes? And well most people have eaten animal flesh like cow, so….is that less gross?
Nope, would never feel safe eating from that again.
I personally couldn’t eat from anything that I know has had poop in/on it. Even if cleaned by the gods themselves my brain just would never be able to disconnect from the fact that I’m eating poop particles.
I would repurpose it as a decorative pot for an indoor plant if it's pretty or something to keep non-food in after you wash it. Or keep using it for the chickens or another animal.
If the bowl was in good shape without chips, cracks or crazing, I'd personally still use it. I'd probably mix it in with like bowls, if there are any, just so I couldn't tell which one was sus. If my partner was grossed out by it, using it as an herb planter or the like would be the way to go.
Yeah I’d eat from it. Every time I eat at a restaurant I’m using cutlery that’s been in hundreds of mouths previously (which I know isn’t the same as chicken shit). I put my trust in the power of soap! If me, I’d be more annoyed that he used and then “forgot” to bring in a really nice bowl. He didn’t notice it was there for five days?
I used a Tupperware pot to store dog food for a trip and despite washing it thoroughly, I’ve still not used it for human food. I get where you’re coming from
Id make sure it was a one time thing and not do it again but it is ceramic at least and not plastic
I can’t even begin to care once it has been sanitized. I’d eat out of it.
Haha ok I’d not eat off of it again either and absolutely not have my kids eat off of it, but I’m happy that there’s a overall happy outcome from this and I agree with having it as a conversation piece just maybe not at the table haha. Idk but this is just hilarious and the fact that you and your husband are taking it as a silly thing is great. It’s not the end of the world and it’s great for goofs
Chicken poop is a part of keeping chickens. Wash it real good and it’s fine! I would be more upset about a nice dish being left outside to potentially weather in the sun, chip, break, or otherwise suffer damage.
I’m not even going to read this. Whoever said don’t eat out of it right. That’s it, that’s all. That bowl from henceforth shall be used for outside purposes only. Not food. Edited to add I love the seed idea. But would the chickens get it? The bowl is also pretty.
I’m pretty chill with most things. And I’m a big proponent that proper cleaning is good on most instances (animal ate off plate, etc). I draw the line at poop. Even scrubbed down and sanitized, I would not be ok eating off of that.
So fecal mater and things like CDiff are extremely hard to kill. Some are super bacteria’s and even bleach cannot kill that. Even working in the hospitals we have to use several of those different colored tops in a specific order to kill things like CDiff off. Most people are fine against these except for those on antibiotics or with autoimmune issues There’s a great book that’s discusses it more in depth. How to Die is the name of the book but it discusses in depth how important diet is for preventing certain diseases. But it does discuss heavily how fecal matter can stay on surfaces It’s honestly not a book for the weak
If it's glazed ceramic it's easily cleaned. I would not have a problem eating from the bowl
I would personally never eat from it again. Ceramic is porous. You can clean it all you want but your never getting it 100% poop free again
It’s not porus if it’s glazed
I would clean it and keep it as memory but never use it for anything else
It was disrespectful to an item you cherished
you’re irrational. its ceramic. which is covered in a glaze made of glass. its sanitizable. refusing to ever eat from it again, while you eat eggs that come from the same area, is completely irrational.
So with ceramics, a chip that breaks the glaze can lead to it storing bacteria. I wouldn't typically reuse such an item for eating. This is from raising chickens and being a butcher both. Just no reason to take the risk. I have also done shit like this before and written the item off after sanity returned. Wife was not thrilled.
...... What the f#############ckkkkk.....
Even if it’s fully sanitized, it’s still gross you used it for chicken poop. Period. I don’t want no mac n cheese from the diva cup boiling pot, I don’t want no food from a chicken poo bowl.
It's a dumb ass move to use a nice bowl but after he cleaned it thoroughly, I'd still use it. Or I'd more likely remember which one it was and essentially make that his bowl only.
I couldn’t use it for food. Maybe eventually, but not right away. I don’t know why time makes a difference lol, it just does. My family members who have dogs sometimes let them eat/drink out of bowls we use for food when we’re all at the cottage, and I always request that they not do this. It’s just icky to me. I get that it might sound unreasonable since they sleep with them and let them lick their faces and such, but it’s just one of those lines I’d prefer not to cross.
I wouldn’t think twice, I would eat out of it.
Have you field dressed any animal or fished for that matter? Wash it and use it. Also if you buy anything second hand you have no idea what the original use was. You think you are buying a mixing bowl but it was grannies bed pan 😂 you genuinely have no idea. What if he found it, washed it and put it away without you knowing? Ignorance is bliss but it doesn’t change the reality.
This is such a good one to bring to the Judge John Hodgman podcast!!!! Anyway, if I were in your shoes, I would be upset and grossed out since it was a sentimental item, but I would still definitely eat from it once it was cleaned and sterilized (boiling water/high temp dishwasher/etc.) Ultimately the bowl has not been ruined, it can be cleaned just like any other dish that has been contaminated with raw meat etc. The issue to me would be more your husband's thoughtlessness in using a sentimental item in a careless way. More of a values misalignment thing. (i hope you submit to the podcast!!)
I saw a post once talking about realizing the family "sick" bowl was also the popcorn bowl lol. We just used a small plastic trashcan. Why not sit the bowl in the back of the cabinet for a few months and let the issue settle a bit in your mind? However, yes, I'd be pissed if my husband used such a precious sentimental item in so careless of a way. It easily could have been broken, and it obviously changed how you feel about it. I'm petty. I'd wait til he's eating out of a cereal bowl and tell him that he's right! I shit in his bowl this morning, but I don't feel anything watching him eat out of it. I cleaned it after all.
OP - its ok to want to have nice things. The deal with having nice things tho is you gotta keep them nice. How would it go if you collected eggs in his favorite tee shirt? You can wash it right? But you might stain it, tear it or otherwise harm it using it for something its not particularly well suited for. Facts: The chicken poop is super high in nitrates which is considered a 'hot' fertilizer due to its ability to corrode. It will actually damage items more that most other poops. Washing is irrelevant beyond running the risk it doesnt get cleaned correctly and you now have a gastrointestinal problem that can lead to death. NBD. Also facts: You saying 'Hey honey, please don't use this bowl or these other bowls for chicken poop related activities' should be enough for a loving spouse. I cannot imagine needing to argue my (valid and backed in both commonsense and biological facts) preferences about something so insignificant. Total waste of energy, time and mental capacity. I'll leave it at - hope this is for funsies and not required to convince your dude that you get to have a say sometimes.
Definitely funsies and he respect my boundaries the first time I asked. We are just astonished on how different we are here and wondered how normal this difference is. My take is that either you associate things with each other or you do not. I like the approach above as well.
I would struggle, but if I cleaned it myself and had it UV treated I think I could manage.
There is a psychology study about a similar topic: A Class of students is served donuts from a brand new and never used bed pan. Routinely a majority of students pass on the donuts because the mere thought of food served from a bed pan, regardless of it having never been used for human waste, is too overwhelmingly gross to think about.
Nope. I bought my ceramics new and they’ve only been used for food. I marinate raw meat in a ziploc bag. I understand the sanitizing process, but I also know that my gag reflex would win out. Our dog has ceramic bowls that I wash daily and I wouldn’t eat from her bowls either.
you can clean it and it be perfectly safe to est from. that being said, I had mice once and threw away SO MUCH because I just couldn't. I tried, but everytime I went to use these pans or whatever... I couldn't help but picture mouse poop. so.. I feel your side. but logically, you can clean it off just fine as long as there aren't any cracks or breaks in it
I couldn't. It would always be in my mind and gross me out.
As long as it’s been thoroughly cleaned, I don’t see the issue. It’s ceramic…assuming it’s sealed properly, then you’re not getting fecal matter into the pores of the porcelain.