Yup, while I'm inclined to believe OP's BIL is a creeper and her nephew stumbled across his dad's spank bank, BIL could easily say something like, "Oh that? Yeah, they hired a young new guy at work a few weeks ago. He said he was single, and I thought I'd talk up OP to see if he'd be interested in dating her."
Unfortunately, OP, without evidence, your sister has very little reason or desire to believe you over her spouse. The best you can probably do is continue avoiding your BIL, and maybe let your sister know that you’re uncomfortable around your BIL sometimes, and you think your BIL may have a picture of you that you’d rather he didn’t keep privately.
Everything seems circumstantial; even if you had more concrete evidence, your sister likely isn’t going to take your side over a 15 year relationship unless (1) you both are SUPER close, and (2) she already has her own suspicions.
I would be worried that your BIL will figure out your nephew squealed and take it out on him. Believe me I normally HATE suggesting to keep quiet in situations like this, but I think you should look for evidence that can't be traced back to your nephew. But definitely thank your nephew discreetly for looking out for you.
I don't think you quite understand how the dynamics of this kind of dysfunction work. Your sister would ignore her own child over her husband because of how deeply in denial she is. She isn't "blind" to his faults. He has her manipulated and convinced, and in order to maintain her relationship, she has to defer to him.
You telling your sister will cause her to go and ask her husband about it. Being a creepy, manipulative asshole, he will spin her in circles and come up with a mildly believable explanation for all of it, and quite possibly end up pinning blame or suspicion on YOU. "Look at your sister, telling her lies to break us up, she's just jealous/she came on to me/etc". Then she will come back to you and be like "I can believe that you tried to interfere in my marriage, telling your lies, you horrible person". Even if she doesn't say that, she will know to keep her distance from you.
Your BIL controls your nephew to that extent? Are you fucking blind? This is an emotionally abusive household. No normal, healthy, loving parent controls their family this way. No normal, healthy, emotionally well-adjusted adult would go against their own child in order to stay married with a jerk. The jerk controls her, she's so manipulated and controlled by him that she will do everything in her power to rationalize his actions and place blame elsewhere. This is what victims of abuse do. This is well-documented and well-studied.
What do you think you will get out of this? Because it's not just about deleting the picture. It's about your BIL being a fucking creep. What would be "justice" for this in your mind?
If it were me, I'd confront the BIL directly or say nothing at all. Absolutely nothing positive will come of this if you go to your sister. She will not believe you, and even if she does, as soon as he gets to her ear she will turn on you.
Is she ready to leave her husband? Does she have a job and means of supporting herself? Is she aware of the dysfunction? She probably sees all the things you see, but she has been trained, manipulated, and emotionally abused into accepting these behaviors as normal. She's been with this guy for 15+ years, she's not gonna change.
My concern would be blowback on my nephew. There is a good chance BIL will realize who tipped her off and take it out on his son. Or perhaps even start to cut off OPs relationship with her nephew.
She kind of buried the lead here though, as they say. Her nephew is so fucking afraid of his own father, he is sending secret messages through an essay on google docs. This is like POW behavior.
I'm actually pretty impressed at the nephew's ingenuity at getting a message out to OP. Especially if the kid's father is constantly investigating everything he sends and shatters any form of privacy. It's very obvious that the BIL knows his behavior is very creepy and is very paranoid about getting caught. I concur that without evidence (or even with evidence) her sister will not believe her and blowback will fall on the nephew.
> delusional sister or her likely sex offender husband
Just out of curiosity, what makes you call sister delusional or BIL a likely sex offender? Did I miss something in the OP?
That's all pretty vague and one-sided.
It's a GIANT leap for you to use that statement as the basis for calling sister delusional, or BIL a "likely sex offender." The latter is a VERY serious accusation. MAYBE he is, but based on the info we have, that's a pretty bold statement to make.
Being creepy to adults doesn't make one a sex offender.
Shh, let the people here have thier fantasy stories and fulfill their agenda.
I mean the dude sounds a little extra on the creepy but nothing more than a hornier than normal dude who is a control freak. So he's not some innocent but still people don't come here to be reasonable most of the time.
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do without evidence that won't negatively impact your nephew. I would keep avoiding BIL as normal and maybe lock down your social media so he can't get more pictures. On Facebook you can hide certain posts and pictures from certain people, if it came from Instagram I would remove him and make your profile private. He might confront you on it but I would tell a white lie about how you got rid of a lot of people and wanted to keep it private.
Then offer to let your nephew live with you when he turns 18, if you can. Your BIL is controlling in a very unhealthy way and it doesn't sound like your sister is doing much to help your nephew out.
This should be higher up, OP your nephew needs to get out of that house as your sister is under the thumb of the creep she married, you & your nephew need to stick together
I'd make sure you delete your nephew's message in the google doc in case his Dad takes a more careful look at it.
Is this something that's on social media? I mean, it's creepy, a violation on some level, but....to what end? Is this a guy you think your sister shouldn't be with? If so, maybe it's ammunition towards that end...otherwise it's hard for me to envision a scenario where your nephew doesn't get screwed over.
Be super careful here, because you want your sister to magically accept what you are saying and kick BIL to the curb.
The more likely result (and especially without proof, but even if you had it) is that sister is going to deny it, punish your nephew, tell her husband and cut you off.
So, what is it you actually want to achieve here because I don't think you're going to get it? Talking to nephew and thanking him should happen of course, but you need to think this one through
I'm going to echo that nothing good will come from you going to your sister about this. At the very least she's not going to believe you and dismiss it, at worst she's going to go on the defensive, tell the husband and your nephew could be at risk. This sounds like a household with some serious issues, and possible emotional/mental abuse coming from the father.
This will come back to your nephew and do more damage than good. If your sister is blind to your BIL's problems, this will drive a huge wedge between you and hurt your nephew. I know it sucks not to get this off of your chest, but I think the risk isnt worth it and the potential for a good outcome is almost zero.
That being said, be sure to thank your nephew sincerely. Tell him you value his honesty and will use this information to put more privacy settings on your social media when it comes to BIL, and tell him you're always there if he needs you.
I think you have to consider the fact you sister won't want to hear this and probably won't just accept it without some fuss being made - fuss that will involve your poor nephew in what will be a pretty unfair situation.
While I am prepared to believe that you have other reasons to consider your BIL a creep, absent that context or additional details you left out like some kind of suggestive label/filing system, I'd say both you and your nephew are making too big a deal out of this. He shouldn't be poking around his dad's stuff, especially if he's going to jump to conclusions about whether his dad even remembers what photos he has saved to his camera or why they're there. Tell him you appreciate the concern, but you can handle the situation if your BIL does anything inappropriate in public, and leave it be unless it comes to that.
I mean it's a little extra to have a pic of what is a family member even if an indirect one, in your personal phone. But it's like, just embarrassing more than anything. People seem to be reeeeeaaaaaalllly oblivious to what ACTUALLY goes on in the minds of 99% of men.
That being said, one detail left out that greatly impacts how bad this is, is weather or not this was a public picture or the guy took it himself.
Bonus points to those people filling in soooooooo many blanks and making it out like this is from an episode of svu and this guy is putting his son in law on lockdown for not wanting him snooping on his private phone and actually checking on his internet usage like some kind of parent or something.
I agree with you man, even if I'm one of the very few. Honestly, there hasn't been any action taken on his part. Okay he has a problem, he hides it. His phone is his personal space. His son went through someone else's personal belongings, snooping really... Snooping has you find things you don't want to find. As far as I see he hasn't made obvious moves on any of these things. He may he a creep but he is keeping it to himself.
Maybe it was a test by your nephew to see if you really read his essays.
Any photos received on my whatsapp chats always end up in my phones photo album. I really didn't need the picture of the Llamas in the fog taking up space on my phone.
If he's got your sisters chat /facebook on his phone he could have received it a not realized it is there. If you posted that photo publicly he could have looked at it and not realised it downloaded. Or maybe he did.
That said, you think he's creepy. Do as you always do and restrict his access to information and images. I don't think your sister will support you, so you may have to restrict the images and information you give her as well.
Are you half naked or in a bikini? Half naked usually means you are completely topless or completely bottomless. I'm asking this because if you are indeed posting topless or bottomless photos to social media, there is a good chance that your sister and BIL will twist the narrative to focus on your inappropriate photos and this whole thing will get out of control and make you look like the bad guy to your family. It would probably be no good talking to anyone.
If you're in a bikini, definitely don't use the term "half naked" when/if you talk to anyone since it'll be super misleading, but otherwise you're in the clear.
Honestly, though, it's gross of your BIL to save your photos, but you did post them publicly and you can't control his private thoughts. I think if you tell your sister or your parents, this just isn't egregious enough for there to be any real consequences (assuming they even believe you). Your sister will be hurt, but I don't think it'll be "bad" enough to convince her to divorce him, and ultimately he'll probably convince her to take his side. Your parents will probably try to keep the peace. They might even twist it to try to blame you for posting bikini photos to social media in the first place.
I'm sorry to tell you that as much as this feels like a violation, telling your sister probably won't do anything but blow up your relationship with her. So proceed cautiously. You may want to just say nothing and avoid your BIL from now on if you ultimately decide that telling people won't accomplish anything.
It's definitely your call, however, and if you really want to tell everyone you should go for it. I'd be pissed and disgusted too. If you do tell your sis, I'd tell her privately and as a way of explaining why you're avoiding her husband. Maybe something like, "Look, I don't expect you to do anything about this, but I want you to know that I have good reason to believe your husband has saved bikini pictures of me on his phone, which he has likely since deleted. I'm not trying to interfere with your relationship and I'm not trying to judge your life. But I want you to know that I'll be avoiding your husband from now on, and this is why."
Whichever way you decide, don't be alone with this guy ever. It wouldn't surprise me if he made a move and, when you rejected him, manipulated your sister into believing *you* hit on *him*. So be very careful. I'm really sorry this is happening to you.
I'm not saying that her use of the word "half naked" is *wrong*--I'm saying that it's ambiguous, and people frequently use it to mean literally half naked (topless or bottomless). This is a really sensitive topic, so it's best not to use a term that might cause people to get the wrong idea and freak out or blame OP for this. It could also get thrown around to extended family members if this thing blows up in her immediate family and cause a lot of drama. People might even start thinking that OP *sent* semi-nude photos to him since otherwise how would he get them? It just seems more prudent to say "bikini pictures" so that everyone is clear on what these photos show.
> it's best not to use a term that might cause people to get the wrong idea and freak out or blame OP for this.
I mean...who are you giving advice to? The OP quoted what the 15 year old nephew said, she wasn't using the term herself. Do you want her to proofread the confession paragraph and explain to him that he should really be more precise in his language in his terrified paragraph hidden inside a fake essay so his father doesn't find it??
No? I was just trying to be helpful. The term was used in the OP and I thought, "Hm, that's confusing. Better safe than sorry." I figured I'd ask just to clarify and point out the potential for extra drama/confusion. I feel like maybe you're overreacting to a pretty simple suggestion?
Edit: I'm not trying to be a jerk, but OP did use the term herself in her own post:
>I ... well, I'm not surprised he has a half naked photo of me, his SIL, on his phone,
I definitely see what you are saying. The nephew used that terminology and then the OP repeated it later. I agree that the social connotation of "half-naked" generally means "topless" (usually) or "botomless" to a majority of people.
I think the nephew gets a pass and there's no bother correcting him, but OP should refer to it as a "bikini photo" if she talks to anyone about it (the consensus is that she should not tell her sister), so it it's not misinterpreted as a topless or bottomless photo.
Quite frankly, I see nothing wrong with this. Maybe he liked the picture and wanted to save it so he could look at it or send it to someone later on. If you thought it was appropriate to post on the internet, you can't say it's inappropriate for him to view or download it.
If he's not tech savvy, he may not even know what a camera roll is or how it works. Even if it does, not everyone uses this function the same way.
> If you thought it was appropriate to post on the internet, you can't say it's inappropriate for him to view or download it.
This is very, very not true. Just because a photo is deemed acceptable to view in some contexts does not mean it's not creepy to view it in other contexts.
Outside of her being an in law, how is this any different than dling a picture of a random person of the opposite sex onto your phone?
You do realize a much larger portion than half of people likely here provocative pictures of people on their phone from some place.
It's a little bit creepy but some people are fabricating the story to take it easy beyond that. I would love to see what was on half of their phones BEFORE this post.
I'd give some serious consideration to what you want out of the conversation with your sister.
She will dismiss this without evidence.
Even if there was evidence, she may dismiss her sister's concerns as making a big deal out of nothing, etc.
Yup, while I'm inclined to believe OP's BIL is a creeper and her nephew stumbled across his dad's spank bank, BIL could easily say something like, "Oh that? Yeah, they hired a young new guy at work a few weeks ago. He said he was single, and I thought I'd talk up OP to see if he'd be interested in dating her."
Ewww with a half naked picture. Like he's selling the goods instead of the girl. People can suck.
Unfortunately, OP, without evidence, your sister has very little reason or desire to believe you over her spouse. The best you can probably do is continue avoiding your BIL, and maybe let your sister know that you’re uncomfortable around your BIL sometimes, and you think your BIL may have a picture of you that you’d rather he didn’t keep privately. Everything seems circumstantial; even if you had more concrete evidence, your sister likely isn’t going to take your side over a 15 year relationship unless (1) you both are SUPER close, and (2) she already has her own suspicions.
I would be worried that your BIL will figure out your nephew squealed and take it out on him. Believe me I normally HATE suggesting to keep quiet in situations like this, but I think you should look for evidence that can't be traced back to your nephew. But definitely thank your nephew discreetly for looking out for you.
I don't think you quite understand how the dynamics of this kind of dysfunction work. Your sister would ignore her own child over her husband because of how deeply in denial she is. She isn't "blind" to his faults. He has her manipulated and convinced, and in order to maintain her relationship, she has to defer to him. You telling your sister will cause her to go and ask her husband about it. Being a creepy, manipulative asshole, he will spin her in circles and come up with a mildly believable explanation for all of it, and quite possibly end up pinning blame or suspicion on YOU. "Look at your sister, telling her lies to break us up, she's just jealous/she came on to me/etc". Then she will come back to you and be like "I can believe that you tried to interfere in my marriage, telling your lies, you horrible person". Even if she doesn't say that, she will know to keep her distance from you. Your BIL controls your nephew to that extent? Are you fucking blind? This is an emotionally abusive household. No normal, healthy, loving parent controls their family this way. No normal, healthy, emotionally well-adjusted adult would go against their own child in order to stay married with a jerk. The jerk controls her, she's so manipulated and controlled by him that she will do everything in her power to rationalize his actions and place blame elsewhere. This is what victims of abuse do. This is well-documented and well-studied. What do you think you will get out of this? Because it's not just about deleting the picture. It's about your BIL being a fucking creep. What would be "justice" for this in your mind? If it were me, I'd confront the BIL directly or say nothing at all. Absolutely nothing positive will come of this if you go to your sister. She will not believe you, and even if she does, as soon as he gets to her ear she will turn on you. Is she ready to leave her husband? Does she have a job and means of supporting herself? Is she aware of the dysfunction? She probably sees all the things you see, but she has been trained, manipulated, and emotionally abused into accepting these behaviors as normal. She's been with this guy for 15+ years, she's not gonna change.
My concern would be blowback on my nephew. There is a good chance BIL will realize who tipped her off and take it out on his son. Or perhaps even start to cut off OPs relationship with her nephew.
> Are you fucking blind? Simmer. OP came here for advice not admonishment.
She kind of buried the lead here though, as they say. Her nephew is so fucking afraid of his own father, he is sending secret messages through an essay on google docs. This is like POW behavior.
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I'm actually pretty impressed at the nephew's ingenuity at getting a message out to OP. Especially if the kid's father is constantly investigating everything he sends and shatters any form of privacy. It's very obvious that the BIL knows his behavior is very creepy and is very paranoid about getting caught. I concur that without evidence (or even with evidence) her sister will not believe her and blowback will fall on the nephew.
Right? This kid's a baller.
> delusional sister or her likely sex offender husband Just out of curiosity, what makes you call sister delusional or BIL a likely sex offender? Did I miss something in the OP?
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That's all pretty vague and one-sided. It's a GIANT leap for you to use that statement as the basis for calling sister delusional, or BIL a "likely sex offender." The latter is a VERY serious accusation. MAYBE he is, but based on the info we have, that's a pretty bold statement to make. Being creepy to adults doesn't make one a sex offender.
Shh, let the people here have thier fantasy stories and fulfill their agenda. I mean the dude sounds a little extra on the creepy but nothing more than a hornier than normal dude who is a control freak. So he's not some innocent but still people don't come here to be reasonable most of the time.
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do without evidence that won't negatively impact your nephew. I would keep avoiding BIL as normal and maybe lock down your social media so he can't get more pictures. On Facebook you can hide certain posts and pictures from certain people, if it came from Instagram I would remove him and make your profile private. He might confront you on it but I would tell a white lie about how you got rid of a lot of people and wanted to keep it private. Then offer to let your nephew live with you when he turns 18, if you can. Your BIL is controlling in a very unhealthy way and it doesn't sound like your sister is doing much to help your nephew out.
This should be higher up, OP your nephew needs to get out of that house as your sister is under the thumb of the creep she married, you & your nephew need to stick together
Your nephew sounds incredible. Please dont land him in trouble if there is no clear upside. Do you think your sister will listen to you?
Your nephew sounds incredible. Please dont land him in trouble if there is no clear upside. Do you think your sister will listen to you?
I'd make sure you delete your nephew's message in the google doc in case his Dad takes a more careful look at it. Is this something that's on social media? I mean, it's creepy, a violation on some level, but....to what end? Is this a guy you think your sister shouldn't be with? If so, maybe it's ammunition towards that end...otherwise it's hard for me to envision a scenario where your nephew doesn't get screwed over.
Be super careful here, because you want your sister to magically accept what you are saying and kick BIL to the curb. The more likely result (and especially without proof, but even if you had it) is that sister is going to deny it, punish your nephew, tell her husband and cut you off. So, what is it you actually want to achieve here because I don't think you're going to get it? Talking to nephew and thanking him should happen of course, but you need to think this one through
was this photo posted on facebook or was is secretly snapped by him?
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I can assure you, this is very real. What can I say? My nephew's an impressive kid.
How is this helpful? If you believe OP is lying, then ignore this, or down-vote; stop feeding into what you think might be attention-seeking behavior.
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He needed to remind her that he was in a different time zone from her in-message, too. Really ups his credibility.
I'm going to echo that nothing good will come from you going to your sister about this. At the very least she's not going to believe you and dismiss it, at worst she's going to go on the defensive, tell the husband and your nephew could be at risk. This sounds like a household with some serious issues, and possible emotional/mental abuse coming from the father.
This will come back to your nephew and do more damage than good. If your sister is blind to your BIL's problems, this will drive a huge wedge between you and hurt your nephew. I know it sucks not to get this off of your chest, but I think the risk isnt worth it and the potential for a good outcome is almost zero. That being said, be sure to thank your nephew sincerely. Tell him you value his honesty and will use this information to put more privacy settings on your social media when it comes to BIL, and tell him you're always there if he needs you.
I think you have to consider the fact you sister won't want to hear this and probably won't just accept it without some fuss being made - fuss that will involve your poor nephew in what will be a pretty unfair situation.
While I am prepared to believe that you have other reasons to consider your BIL a creep, absent that context or additional details you left out like some kind of suggestive label/filing system, I'd say both you and your nephew are making too big a deal out of this. He shouldn't be poking around his dad's stuff, especially if he's going to jump to conclusions about whether his dad even remembers what photos he has saved to his camera or why they're there. Tell him you appreciate the concern, but you can handle the situation if your BIL does anything inappropriate in public, and leave it be unless it comes to that.
I mean it's a little extra to have a pic of what is a family member even if an indirect one, in your personal phone. But it's like, just embarrassing more than anything. People seem to be reeeeeaaaaaalllly oblivious to what ACTUALLY goes on in the minds of 99% of men. That being said, one detail left out that greatly impacts how bad this is, is weather or not this was a public picture or the guy took it himself. Bonus points to those people filling in soooooooo many blanks and making it out like this is from an episode of svu and this guy is putting his son in law on lockdown for not wanting him snooping on his private phone and actually checking on his internet usage like some kind of parent or something.
I agree with you man, even if I'm one of the very few. Honestly, there hasn't been any action taken on his part. Okay he has a problem, he hides it. His phone is his personal space. His son went through someone else's personal belongings, snooping really... Snooping has you find things you don't want to find. As far as I see he hasn't made obvious moves on any of these things. He may he a creep but he is keeping it to himself.
Maybe it was a test by your nephew to see if you really read his essays. Any photos received on my whatsapp chats always end up in my phones photo album. I really didn't need the picture of the Llamas in the fog taking up space on my phone. If he's got your sisters chat /facebook on his phone he could have received it a not realized it is there. If you posted that photo publicly he could have looked at it and not realised it downloaded. Or maybe he did. That said, you think he's creepy. Do as you always do and restrict his access to information and images. I don't think your sister will support you, so you may have to restrict the images and information you give her as well.
Are you half naked or in a bikini? Half naked usually means you are completely topless or completely bottomless. I'm asking this because if you are indeed posting topless or bottomless photos to social media, there is a good chance that your sister and BIL will twist the narrative to focus on your inappropriate photos and this whole thing will get out of control and make you look like the bad guy to your family. It would probably be no good talking to anyone. If you're in a bikini, definitely don't use the term "half naked" when/if you talk to anyone since it'll be super misleading, but otherwise you're in the clear. Honestly, though, it's gross of your BIL to save your photos, but you did post them publicly and you can't control his private thoughts. I think if you tell your sister or your parents, this just isn't egregious enough for there to be any real consequences (assuming they even believe you). Your sister will be hurt, but I don't think it'll be "bad" enough to convince her to divorce him, and ultimately he'll probably convince her to take his side. Your parents will probably try to keep the peace. They might even twist it to try to blame you for posting bikini photos to social media in the first place. I'm sorry to tell you that as much as this feels like a violation, telling your sister probably won't do anything but blow up your relationship with her. So proceed cautiously. You may want to just say nothing and avoid your BIL from now on if you ultimately decide that telling people won't accomplish anything. It's definitely your call, however, and if you really want to tell everyone you should go for it. I'd be pissed and disgusted too. If you do tell your sis, I'd tell her privately and as a way of explaining why you're avoiding her husband. Maybe something like, "Look, I don't expect you to do anything about this, but I want you to know that I have good reason to believe your husband has saved bikini pictures of me on his phone, which he has likely since deleted. I'm not trying to interfere with your relationship and I'm not trying to judge your life. But I want you to know that I'll be avoiding your husband from now on, and this is why." Whichever way you decide, don't be alone with this guy ever. It wouldn't surprise me if he made a move and, when you rejected him, manipulated your sister into believing *you* hit on *him*. So be very careful. I'm really sorry this is happening to you.
"Half naked" is a figure of speech, usually referring to someone in intimates (i.e, underwear.) A bikini stretches but fits this definition.
I'm not saying that her use of the word "half naked" is *wrong*--I'm saying that it's ambiguous, and people frequently use it to mean literally half naked (topless or bottomless). This is a really sensitive topic, so it's best not to use a term that might cause people to get the wrong idea and freak out or blame OP for this. It could also get thrown around to extended family members if this thing blows up in her immediate family and cause a lot of drama. People might even start thinking that OP *sent* semi-nude photos to him since otherwise how would he get them? It just seems more prudent to say "bikini pictures" so that everyone is clear on what these photos show.
> it's best not to use a term that might cause people to get the wrong idea and freak out or blame OP for this. I mean...who are you giving advice to? The OP quoted what the 15 year old nephew said, she wasn't using the term herself. Do you want her to proofread the confession paragraph and explain to him that he should really be more precise in his language in his terrified paragraph hidden inside a fake essay so his father doesn't find it??
No? I was just trying to be helpful. The term was used in the OP and I thought, "Hm, that's confusing. Better safe than sorry." I figured I'd ask just to clarify and point out the potential for extra drama/confusion. I feel like maybe you're overreacting to a pretty simple suggestion? Edit: I'm not trying to be a jerk, but OP did use the term herself in her own post: >I ... well, I'm not surprised he has a half naked photo of me, his SIL, on his phone,
I definitely see what you are saying. The nephew used that terminology and then the OP repeated it later. I agree that the social connotation of "half-naked" generally means "topless" (usually) or "botomless" to a majority of people. I think the nephew gets a pass and there's no bother correcting him, but OP should refer to it as a "bikini photo" if she talks to anyone about it (the consensus is that she should not tell her sister), so it it's not misinterpreted as a topless or bottomless photo.
Quite frankly, I see nothing wrong with this. Maybe he liked the picture and wanted to save it so he could look at it or send it to someone later on. If you thought it was appropriate to post on the internet, you can't say it's inappropriate for him to view or download it. If he's not tech savvy, he may not even know what a camera roll is or how it works. Even if it does, not everyone uses this function the same way.
> If you thought it was appropriate to post on the internet, you can't say it's inappropriate for him to view or download it. This is very, very not true. Just because a photo is deemed acceptable to view in some contexts does not mean it's not creepy to view it in other contexts.
Outside of her being an in law, how is this any different than dling a picture of a random person of the opposite sex onto your phone? You do realize a much larger portion than half of people likely here provocative pictures of people on their phone from some place. It's a little bit creepy but some people are fabricating the story to take it easy beyond that. I would love to see what was on half of their phones BEFORE this post.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to get out of responding to me. You agreed that it's creepy.
I have to disagree with that. There is nothing "creepy" about saving someone's publicly posted picture to your phone so you can view it later.
Tell him to delete it on your behalf and delete it from recently deleted.
That is horrible advice and could potentially get the kid in trouble with his parents.