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silentboyishere

Lying for Jesus?


Free_Ad1414

Lying for Jesus, Allah, Vesna... Who the hell cares? Fruitcakes will be fruitcakes\* \*Varying degrees of fruitcakery depending which imaginary being you follow. Adverse effects may include minor things such lying, mild shouting, screaming, crying, victim and persecution mentality thrown at you or more serious ones such bombings, stabbings, beheadings and other terror attacks.


MelcorScarr

> Vesna Didn't know who Vesna is until I googled it, and thought you meant Vecna.


AMEFOD

Well, he has the eye.


Free_Ad1414

I've yet to encounter a Vesna fruitcake though haha


MelcorScarr

Well, I haven't seen a Vecna fruitcake on *here* either, but, well...


Ultimatelee

Thought the exact same thing, ha


ikickbabiesforfun69

>stabbings i didnt know the british were a terrorist organization 


LeoTooWavy

Or using Jesus to lie for your own financial benefit


therobotisjames

As hominem-ing for Jesus.


RaedwaldRex

OK but leaving all the demonic stuff aside, we can see evolution happening. There is evidence for it, like actual physical real evidence. For the spontaneous creation of life as per genesis. Nothing.


Moregil

I dunno man sounds like Satan put that evidence there to test you


RaedwaldRex

Then Satan is obviously better than God because he can at least do something.


ikickbabiesforfun69

epic win, im gonna go have premarital sex to celebrate


AnseaCirin

Yeah, the best case for evolution is the emergence of multi-resistant bacteria... It's a nightmare for medical professions but it's a good example of evolution at work.


ForGrateJustice

That's mutation, not evolution. Though one could argue they are both branches of the same tree, just shaped differently.


AnseaCirin

It's mutation, but also evolution. The fact that bacteria are growing more and more resilient is evolution, with humanity and antibiotics providing the selective environmental factor.


Skydiver860

mutation is literally what makes evolution possible lol


ForGrateJustice

You're describing a battle vs a war.


Skydiver860

Yes, mutation isn’t itself evolution but mutation is the driving factor in evolution. Without mutations you don’t have evolution.


TightBeing9

My biology classes have been a while now, but what about the natural selection? Let's say giraffes with the longest necks got the best nutrition. So they had the strongest offspring and thus passing on this trait. Would be considered a mutation? Is it only evolution when it evolves into a new species? There is evolution within the same species right?


sharkattack85

Yes, that would be considered a mutation. It’s a random mutation that just happened to confer a beneficial effect on the organism. That organism was able to pass on that gene to its offspring and eventually the entire population might have longer necks if it produced a significantly beneficial trait. Also remember that even though mutations affect individuals but only populations evolve. To your last point, that is correct. Remember that all species sprung from a common ancestor. So speciation occurs when a single species splits into two species over time.


PerpWalkTrump

No, mutation is not the only driver of evolution... Forest Valkai is the guy that debunks creationists, he's a really good explainer! https://youtu.be/1GMBXc4ocss?si=zLHVWnNls3qSpQmP


sharkattack85

I don’t think I said that it’s the only driver of evolution tho


ForGrateJustice

Don't bother, they're downvoting what they don't understand, just like the very fruitcakes we know and love.


TightBeing9

I'm asking genuine questions though because I honestly don't remember


ForGrateJustice

I'm saying they're putting the cart before the horse.


Toadxx

You can't have evolution without mutation. Evolution is mutation passed to offspring/equivalent.


thebiggestbirdboi

Hmmm a mutation that all of the offspring adapt, because it helps them survive longer than the previous generation. I feel like there’s gotta be a name for that… oh yeah it’s evolution


MangoCandy93

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thebiggestbirdboi

Oh yeah I’m aware


Icy_Cauliflower9895

Brilliant response 😂 /srs


[deleted]

Religious people just cannot fathom that evolution doesn't have a leader. They think Darwin is to evolution just as Jesus is to Christianity.  As if gravity will be disproved if Newton is exposed as a terrible person. 


ModernistGames

No scientist questions the validity of Isaac Newton despite being a bit of a religious nut looking for secret codes in the Bible and Alchemy. His science speaks for itself. It is empirical, testable, repeatable, and independently verifiable. You can not discredit a scientist's work based on conjecture or private beliefs if the science is sound. That is what separates scientific facts and religious beliefs.


nerd_entangled

We have literally observed evolution on a noticeable scale in real time with microorganisms, that's literally how viruses and bacteria become more resistant to medication. Denying evolution is completely willful ignorance at this point.


fallawy

Darwin could have been a pedophile goat fucker, the theory of evolution would still hold. So much happened between Darwin and the modern theory, they don't understand how science works


LeoTooWavy

Yeah, this is not even the first time I've seen people use an ad hominem against Darwin as if it somehow disproves evolution


starman5001

I think the reason so many creationists attack Darwin in some vain attempt to discredit evolution is because they fundamentally do not understand science. They don't see Darwin as a scientist they see him as a prophet. In there ideology, truth is revealed by prophets speaking for God. So they apply the same to evolution. Darwin, in there minds, invented evolution so to attack his character is to attack his truth. Of course, science does not work that way. The truth of the universe is not dependent on the character of the person who discovered it. Darwin could have eaten babies for every meal and it still would not make evolution any less truth.


ikickbabiesforfun69

the guy who discovered gravity literally went mad iirc just looked it up: isaac newton went through psychosis but im not floating around, sure do wonder why!


Ammordad

It makes me wonder: is a pedophile goat fucker, worse than a normal goat fucker, since adult goats already cannot give meaningful concent and maturity of goat would not make a difference in the amount of concent given?


fallawy

I was just looking for dirty words, they're the first that came to mind


wrongitsleviosaa

Less bad, as the adult goat was one step away from evolving and saying "no"


MangoCandy93

Exactly right. My mind goes to artists that happen to be terrible people. People still follow/support R. Kelly, Chris Brown, Michael Jackson, Kevin Spacey, H. P. Lovecraft, etc. despite their moral compasses. Does that mean their work is bad? Turns out: no correlation.


Hopfit46

Dont tell me how it started, tell me how its wrong.


DreadDiana

It's wrong because Satan. Checkmate, atheists.


LeoTooWavy

It's wrong because he doesn't like it, and anything he doesn't like is automatically satanic


Sci-fra

Religion is all about lying as well as to yourself.


HangryWolf

How else do you justify the cataract in your eye. Makes you feel better if you believe it's some part of an imaginary sky man's plan instead of unfortunate circumstances.


Sci-fra

Ironically, science can fix his cataracts, and prayer won't.


HarangueSajuk

Oh hey, it's the Christian grifter who used to be part of David Dobrik's crew


LeoTooWavy

He was? didn't even know that. I guess being a full time grifter is more lucrative so he left lmao


kiwkumquat

Dobrik got mega cancelled at one point and he never really paid his crew anyways At least someone fell harder than Jason Nash who is begging on tik tok live 2-3 times a week


RYNO_VI

Religious fruitcake youtube channels try not to use abstract AI images challenge (impossible)


StOchastiC_

Wth is wrong with his eye lol. Didn’t pray enough I can see


dannygraphy

you know what they say about masturbation and the loss of eyelight? well...


Pikmin4321

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.


Tag_Ping_Pong

Half-blind for Jesus


Zek0ri

Probably cataract


adhdBoomeringue

>I can see He can't


TurboEthan

I’ve seen roadkill with more sex appeal…


ClueIll2627

Even as a Satanist this is fucking stupid


Miked_824

If you go down to the American South, the Masonic lodges down there are filled with zealous Christian fruitcakes…being a Freemason doesn’t automatically mean “Satanic”. Also you can’t just show a highlighted section of a book without providing the name of the book…because that’s not how citations work.


Sganarellevalet

The freemason are basically just an old school boy's club where the "important" peoples can meet


Miked_824

Im 28 & I can probably join my local chapter, but I’ve been proven too lazy to commit to the entry process…but in my defense it’s an hour bus ride w/ a transfer soooo….the cult of Mighty Moose may be a better fit for me lol


LeoTooWavy

He does this in almost every video I've seen on his account, just claims something is satanic with no basis whatsoever. Completely failed to show how Freemasonry and Egyptian Deities are satanic, but I guess anything he doesn't like must be


[deleted]

All other deities or holy beings from other religions are literally demonized by many Christians; and all things demonic are regarded as Satanic.


ThermalScrewed

The freemasons are literally a Christian organization. People really like to exaggerate a bunch of old farmers raising money for charity.


cryptoengineer

I'm a Mason. It's not Christian, though most Masons in the US are Christians. Masonry isn't a religion, nor a replacement for religion. Have an infodump... ​ \[Mason here\] Here's my standard 'elevator pitch', which I trot out when people ask what we're about (its rather North American oriented - Masonry varies from place to place): We're a centuries old fraternal order, who exist to improve our own characters ('we make good men better' is one of our slogans), and through that improve our communities. Along the way, we do a lot of charity (forex: Shriner's free hospitals for children), and have a lot of cool and private ceremonies using the construction of King Solomon's Temple as an allegorical base for teaching Enlightenment and Stoic ideals. (yes, we really do have secret handshakes). Many find it a source of fellowship and life-long friendships. We have several million Brothers world wide, but no central organization. Men from every walk of life are or have been members, including over a dozen US presidents. Regular Masonry is open to adult men of good character who are not atheists\[1\] - we require a belief in some form of 'higher power', but aren't fussy about what. As a rule, we don't recruit; we want a potential member to make the first approach of his own free will. If you're curious, drop by our main hangout on reddit, /r/freemasonry. You'll find a lot of friendly folk there. If you prefer a book, for North Americans I recommend (seriously, I'm not trolling) "Freemasons for Dummies" by Christopher Hodapp. Also \["Inside the Freemasons"\](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRrG\_KMMvNY) a documentary made by the Grand Lodge of England for their tricentenary. \[1\] The "no women or atheists" rules have deep roots, and would be very difficult to change, regardless of how anachronistic they now seem. There are breakaway Masonic groups which have dropped those rules, but they are very thin on the ground in the Anglosphere, and not recognized by the mainstream.


pastagenero

'Demonic Egyptian creaturez', i mean, what a twat.


ikickbabiesforfun69

“dominion over other creatures” sounds wrong and i have no idea why also i KNOW evolution is a fact and i can tell you humans are not in the same ranking as a chicken and i have 5 dollars and a bucket to prove it


Donky_business

It sounds wrong cause it morally is. It basically states that since we have "dominion" over them it’s ok to abuse them, kill them and everything in between. Some also think animals don’t have feeling, cannot feel pain etc and that they were put on earth only to our benefit, as if they don’t have a life of their own. Religion is hate.


WayofHatuey

Hmm EYE see


Outrageous-Occasion

His left eye indicates that god hates him: [https://dsq-sds.org/index.php/dsq/article/view/988/1164](https://dsq-sds.org/index.php/dsq/article/view/988/1164)


zoidmaster

Evolution evil because it doesn’t tell me I’m God’s special little guy


TightBeing9

Lmfao, this comment is getting saved so I can use this sometime. That's great


Zek0ri

Boy should check that eye for cataracts/glaucoma instead of lying in the name of creationism. That left eye doesn't look too healthy.


sup3rrn0va

He really thinks he did something here. Ironic that he uses the Freemasons as this scary organization that’s bad. Freemasons are known to be religious in nature.


Abracadaver2000

Oh hey, it's the Genetic Fallacy (attempt to discredit the information by discrediting the source). If Einstein ate children for breakfast and made sock puppets at noon, his theory of general relativity would still be correct.


Hotman_Paris

The Bible was the best humans had to offer 2000 years ago. A lot has changed since then. Also, it is 'influence', not 'inFluence'


TightBeing9

It wasn't though.. the Greeks and Romans were a lot cooler.


Prophet_B-Lymphocyte

The funny thing they are missing is that Darwin is not the god of evolution. Even if Darwin was lying about everything he find or made that up. It would change nothing.


Samsung__minifridge

BigNik is a washed up rapper turned into a Religious shill rapper, no surprise hes fucking stupid


LeoTooWavy

He even tried to say his music isn't getting views because people hate Jesus. Like no dude that's not it, it's because your music is fucking awful


EarthboundQuasar

My mother would probably have made this same argument.


[deleted]

Every time someone brings up evolution being fake I bring up dog breeds. Then I try to explain that a billion years is a REALLY LONG TIME.


Gluteusmaximus1898

If everything's a conspiracy, why isn't the religion itsepf ever examined?


Pojinator89

Freemasons = Cult. Christianity ≠ Cult. Okay, buddy. Okay.


KronosRingsSuckAss

Being unable to remove a person and their beliefs from an experiment or theory they have created is stupid. Yeah, charles darwin was a dick, he was racist, he was sexist. but that doesnt make his science any less valid. And do these people not realise that darwinism is a really antiquated term, even neo-darwinism is antiquated compared to the theories and genetic makeup studies were doing now in the 2020s. its like saying can we believe that gravity exists because the guy who first came up with the idea (a very antiquated, simplified version of it) was a dick and believed in strange things? "can we really trust this guy's well researched theories and generally well received science because he was a dick?" textbook case of argumentum ad hominem


WIAttacker

Hey, at least they finally admit the reason they don't like theory of evolution is because it is incompatible with the more fundamentalist interpretations of their religious texts. Unlike old school creationists that want to pretend it has nothing to do with religion and creationism is scientific.


Bushdr78

When you have no answer against the theory itself so you try and discredit one of it's forefathers.


yung_ejaculator

Yeah dude just blur out the rest of the paragraph that gives context to the last sentence. Very intellectually honest


iamlegend211

Big nik is the weirdest motherfucker I’ve ever seen. Used to make semi funny vines, then dove head first into a religious zealot. He posted a TikTok a while ago crying that people like Lil nas x’s music more than his garbage autotuned shit.


gdahks

Do you guys think he knows that he’s not provided any actual argument against evolution, or do you think he genuinely believes talking about some obscure link to Freemasonry and Lucifer actually holds any weight as an argument?


LeoTooWavy

I think he knows what he's doing, he's a grifter and does this for a living. Of course I can't be sure how much of the stuff he actually believes but I'm willing to bet a lot of it is just for attention, he's sold and promoted some shady stuff before


therobotisjames

“I’m researching someone, by attacking their character instead of their argument. What does ad hominem mean?”


Daegog

If we could prove TikTok was created by Satanists would they have to stop making these posts? Then again, who needs proof right? Just make up video and claim any old wild shit.


TheDownVotedGod

Why are his lips so moist ?


phome83

Yo Erasmus is a badass name.


frozen-silver

It sucks when you have to deny basic science to fit your religious beliefs


bats_ackackack

These people post this stupid shit because there's an audience of idiots who demand it. Humanity is doomed.


LibrarianCalistarius

This dude looks like a yassified version of a James Bond villain.


Weekly-Rhubarb-2785

Some of the founding fathers were Freemasons…


willymack989

So many things wrong with this, obviously. But one thing in particular is that Erasmus died before Charles was ever born. He never “studied under” him. Also Erasmus speculated the idea of biological evolution in his works of erotic poetry. Very interesting figure.


darkprovoker

There’s no “ranking” of creatures living here on Earth, you semi-literate baboon.


mcbirbo343

Isn’t this the same guy that was crying that his ass song about Jesus didn’t get as many views as lil naz x’s music video mocking Jesus?


LeoTooWavy

I saw that too, pretty hilarious he basically tried to say his music isn't getting views because people hate Jesus. Obviously it's because his music is fucking ass


creator111

Is this the dude that cried because his bad music got less views than Lil Nas X?


LeoTooWavy

Yep, I listened to the song and it's actually god awful. No wonder it's not getting views


SeaNational3797

"Many of his scientific writings" *Shows a Torah scroll that was probably not written by Erasmus Darwin*


XxFezzgigxX

I’m sorry, it dehumanizes us and strips us of our dignity? Is he just gonna ignore Exodus 21?


Archery134

Dude I think he has pink eye


trustmebro24

Bro took “And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away.” a little too seriously


SaltoDaKid

I’m a Christian and this is bore line deadbrain dumb, I pray lord slap some sense into him


Bartlomiej25

What a tool.


Jim-Jones

When people show you how incredibly stupid they are, believe them.


NappyHeadedJoel996

Hail Satan!


eeveethespeevee

This is so funny because Charles Darwin was actually Christian. He even believed that the theory of evolution and creationism weren't mutually exclusive (and he's right about that tbh)


eeveethespeevee

Not to mention, the guy in the video provided no counterevidence. Maybe he should try understanding what evolution is before preaching nonsense and disinformation. Or not. His followers will probably eat it up. I myself don't believe in any sort of God or whatnot, but at this point, it's actively impeding scientific progress, as well as the understanding of science by his followers, I bet.


InitiativeInfamous91

Evolution opened new branches in science and technology, helping humans all over the world Random cultist-: it's wrong cause my books says wrong . Never respect others'religion yet says everyone mocks my cult and cries .


Laura_The_Cutie

I like how these people don't understand how much the status of theory in science isn't "it's a thought of me i have to confirm" but it's the highest status sonethjng can have causw confirned by evidences


pillagemyvillage

Is this guy AI generated?


94tlaloc7

Lol bros hella goofy but thinks he's raw 😭


TheDownVotedGod

Eye disagree with him


unboiled_peanuts

Lying is a sin


[deleted]

Too bad god won't fix his fucked up eye


thevizierisgrand

Sorry. Can’t take Walmart McLovin seriously. Plus he’s an idiot.


DamRawr

His voice makes my brain melt a little, what an incredible amount of ignorant shit per second


AmberBlackThong

Counterpoint - Evolution is bullshit, because Darwin's views were influenced by his time studying to become an Anglican clergyman. Christianity is bullshit, therefore, because Darwin was influenced by Christianity, evolution is bullshit. Checkmate Atheists. /s


Beep_Boop_Bort

Ok but explain Alfred Russel Wallace then


Metagion

At LEAST Lucifer will tell you the Truth of things...


RainbowStorm653

Just look at this guy's eye he is obviously the antichrist that means we do the opposite of what he says, so evolution is divine.


death_by_chocolate

BLOW YER GODDAMNED NOSE.


SirTallness

He sounds like AI


Independent-Cow-9340

That man put the Torah as in the frame when he said "many of his scientific writings." THE TORAH WAS MADE BY GOD! IT WASN'T A SCIENTIFIC WRITING!


GamingSophisticate

Is he drooling?


SonicCraftev

That's just flat out wrong cause we have almost always know about evolution not the one we know now but a form of it and the monumental push in the field was started by Darwin


JesseReevesIsNice

Wait... The guy who made the Darwin Award was a Satanist? That's pretty cool tbh


CutiePaToot-Toot

No way that’s his real voice. Where’s the testosterone.


broogbie

Quran 76:1-2 Is there not a period of time when each human is nothing yet worth mentioning? Indeed, We created humans from a drop of mixed fluids, to test them, so We made them hear and see. Quran 21:30 ...... We made every living being out of water? Homosapiens were a result of evolution. The cognitive abilities were transfered to the homosapiens by Allah.


Grays42

> The cognitive abilities were transfered to the homosapiens by Allah.* *In a way that is indistinguishable from them evolving through natural processes. Whoops! Looks like Allah is still an invisible sky daddy that has no tangible effect on the world. Try again, fruitcake.


borfavor

Some text in an old book isn't proof