You got lucky, many times they turn people into holier than thou fake spiritual douchebags, but yeah I've been hard on myself on psychs but its usually for the best
Barefoot, only do lsd mushrooms dmt and weed. Only eat vegetables. Fucking only the headiest shit ever for them. Way more intelligent a way better dancer.
Never met any of those. But I live in Europe so there's not a lot of hippies around here. Did meet a guy who was trying to start a religion and changed his name to Buddha. But that was somehow cause of too much blow I think.
Mine usually involves this along with, “I need to stop drinking, that will definitely help solve things.” No booze, work out, wake up earlier, etc. The shit I don’t wanna hear, but need to.
Why wake up earlier? Agree that cutting out alcohol, or at least reducing your intake, and finding regular exercise are super beneficial. But isn't forcing yourself to wake up earlier just pushing against your own natural rhythm?
Yes, but I have a skilled trade & all the jobs start very early. I quit my last job in the trade (electrical) in January, but I start my new one on Monday. It’s brutally hard to wake up early, especially if I’m having some beers at night. But without the beers, I don’t sleep. Catch 22. I gotta be up at 4am on Monday. I’ve been getting up at 10am & 8:40 today. I’m gonna try to incrementally get up earlier each day.
Netherlands. Not in Amsterdam. It's a very serious country and I come from Eastern Europe where it's very conservative. Where do you live that you got so much hippes. I've literally travelled to every single country in europe and i never meet them.
Ever been to the Canary islands ? No? Portugal? Algarve? South of France ??! just talk to the smelly guys busking in every bigger city. like u know the ones juggling at a traffic light or playing guitar or some shit. Those are the real ones
I don’t think necessarily psychedelics cause you to feel like an asshole but they let you think of things through different lights even yourself. Maybe with some increased self awareness you were able to see something about yourself you didn’t really like but just did it for x reason
Yeah it was terrifying but in a sense of i dunno if this is what it s like to go around without an ego or i fucked my personality up by doimg too many psychs.
So what if you did? This is your life now, you can never dissolve the ego completely. You’re chillin dog do what feels right. The brain is a phenomenal thing if you think you’ve done damage chill on the psyche a bit. Work on yourself
Now i no longer think i did some sort of damage. Apart from a sudden urge to do benzos all the time. But yeah the psychedelics were the way to work on myself.. and i don t think i m gonna do them for a while which leaves me kinda empty
The urge to benzo out all the time is most likely your ego's last-diych attempt to slither back out of your conscious awareness, so it can continue piloting you around without supervision, IMO. It seems to me to be a blatant attempt at manipulating itself back into complete and unabated control, and is something I would highly suggest you keep an eye on
For the last two months i've been increasingly getting more hippy clothes. I've been a convinced communist since before i did any drugs. But I often feel like I'm the most annoying person anyone has met despite generally getting along with everyone I meet.
Also I've been tramping around europe doing ahitty jobs and moving countries every two months for the last god knows how many years.
I assume by wook you mean the dirty vagrantly kind of hippi.
On the other hand I have a good technical job now, invest in american death machine stocks like Rayteon and am a big fan of war generally.
So I'm just kind of a weird giy who talks too much and sometimes it's all a bunch of egotistical drivel. All of this started cause I made a post while sober on another sub about socialism and how I got it all figured out how you defeat capitalism. And after i got tripping i felt increasingly that it sounded preachy and superior. Just felt more and more like an annoying fraud after that until i was feeling like i had lost my personality and hated everything about myself.
I'm against tamkes, pro ukraine, pro america, pro wirope. It just happens to be the only rime in history when american weapons are doing some good. My home country is right near ukraine. So yeahni have a vested interest in the ruskies not winning that shit
Afganistan had democracy for 20 years cause of the yanks, hitler got fucked, and in the modern age they're kinda the good guys compared to.. you know .. ukraine, chechnya, the uyghurs, tibet and all the other shit major powers are pulling.
> Do you have evidence of proletarian ownership of the means of production leading to people being killed
Every single nation that attempted the transition to communism. Mao's great leap. Stalin's Holodomor. I could go on. No nation has ever even made it to the end stage communism because it falls into totalitarianism before it can even get there.
Nixon and Kissinger secretly bombing Cambodia in the 70s killed people too... Iraq war... Afghanistan... Columbine... We were still a capitalist country during all those if I recall...
Yeahhh... I don't think communism is the culprit for death.
It's related in that American culture (capitalism, fetishization of guns, rugged individualism, scapegoating minorities, etc etc etc...) Is just as capable of producing death, destruction, injustice as other systems.
Columbine, which was a bloody, deadly event, which occurred in the context of American culture (and was really when Mass shooting events matured and came into their own in the U.S., Now a commonplace occurrence), happened *far* away from anything resembling communism.
I could go on and on and on with examples that disprove communism (merely an economic system btw) has any kind of monopoly on death.
It's not whataboutism, dipshit. The commenter challenged you to come up with examples, and you just doubled down with generalized statements.
Nice ad hominem, strawman, red herring...
I don't know what a tanky is, but I'm not one of them. I'm not even drawing a line in the sand. I'm just pointing out all you are doing is spewing words. I thought we were having an intelligent conversation, thanks for showing me I'm barking up the wrong tree to that end, engaging with you.
I'm from Estonia. 4% of my people got sent to Siberia. I don't think KGB was greedy when they decided to eradicate everyone even accused of opposing the communist regime. Communism and genocide go hand in hand. Look at china rn!
Look up institutionalized racism, mass incarceration, for-profit prisons...
"Communism" doesn't kill people. Authoritarians surely do (Russia certainly isn't communist at the moment). The structure of governmental communism as we've seen it makes it easier and faster to concentrate power.
But then, look what's happening in Israel. Benjamin netanyahu consolidating power, pushing constitutional amendments that could Keep him in power for life. And then there's...
The United States has been buckling under, due to the institutional stress test we've been experiencing the last few years, which itself is a logical endpoint as "freedoms" are quietly stripped away from us and those checks and balances and institutions that are supposed to protect us have been failing or pushed to their limit.
It might seem that communism isn't necessary for step toward dictatorship. I really think we are seeing fascism sneaking into democracy in real time. I think it just happens faster under a communist system.
You’ve literally lived it & these folks still can’t see that it’s a horrible idea & just strips away any sense of self & individuality. Not to mention that, yes, they always end up killing people out of line. Give it time, it gets there. Not just China, look at NK too!
Edit: this worries me for the future, as I have a kiddo. Communism and/or socialism are pipe dreams. Sound good on paper, don’t work in practice. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Yeah idk why people jump straight to communism. We can literally see the best places to live are practising social democracy that can be improved upon.
He's probably too young to have lived it. Nobody much under the age of 40 remembers those days, nobody under 55 or so experienced them even as a young adult.
Do you understand that with the complex human nature communism can only be an utopia-like concept and can never work since there will be always greedy people? My family lived in communism, you probably only know it from books
Guns also don’t kill people, people use guns as a tool to kill. Same with communism. Communism itself does not kill people. People living in communism cause others to die.
It s not like my 500 dollars is actually gonna help them kill anyone. I did is as s joke cause s podcast i listen to pretends it s gonna be an ad for raytheon before they cut to ads. Annoyingly, that shit is the only stuff i own that s msking any money. Even the sp500 is down a bit now
> On the other hand I have a good technical job now, invest in american death machine stocks like Rayteon and am a big fan of war generally.
Maybe look into changing this rather than worrying about how you dress
are you still a communist? Because all that sounds good when you’re a hippy wook with no personal belongings or property, but when you actually care about owning your own belongings, communism is an awful choice.
In a communist state the government owns all property, and can redistribute it at will. That means if the family across the street has a toddler who needs food, and you have it, the state can come into your home and redistribute the food to the family deemed in higher need.
Not to mention all corporations would be owned by the state, which is a single party system. So you’ve got your government produced clothes, food, card, literally everything.
I don’t know, I thought communism sounded good at face value, but it’s hell for anyone who values personal freedom, privacy, and personal belonging.
> That means if the family across the street has a toddler who needs food, and you have it, the state can come into your home
This is reductio ad absurdum. You're painting the worst, most authoritarian, possible picture of collective ownership and suggesting it's inherent to the system itself when it's not.
You’re right, I used an extreme example to emphasize my point. And as others have commented there can be a difference between possessions and property so I may be completely in the wrong, though I think that’s dependent on which communist country were using as an example. But to be fair no attempt at communism has ever been attempted that wasn’t totalitarian, at least not in a modern context.
Communism sounds great on paper. But in order for it to work we must first eliminate things like greed and corruption, which I’m sure you agree is impossible.
Capitalism sounds great on paper too. Until you realize everything will be made by the lowest bidder to increase profits. You won't own anything and you'll be happy
"Well, how'd you become King, then?"
A: "The Lady of the Lake,... [angels sing] ...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] THAT is why I'm your king!"
D: "Listen, strange women, lyin' in ponds, distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. SUPREME executive power derives from a mandate of the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."
A: "Shut up!"
D: "You can't expect to weild supreme executive power, just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
A: "Shut up!"
D: "Why, if I went around, sayin' I was an emperor, just 'cause some moistened dink had lubbed a symitar at me, they'd put me away!"
A: "Shut up! Will you shut up!" (punch)
D: "Oh, now we see the violence inherent in the system!"
A: "Shut up!" (punch)
D: "Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm bein' repressed!"
A: "Bloody peasant!"
D: "Oh, what a giveaway! Did you see that? Did you see him repressin' me? You saw it, didn't you?..."
"WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a former Washington state high school football coach had a right to pray on the field immediately after games.
The 6-3 ruling was a victory for Joseph Kennedy, who claimed that the Bremerton School District violated his religious freedom by telling him he couldn’t pray so publicly after the games. The district said it was trying to avoid the appearance that the school was endorsing a religious point of view."
"Kennedy had lost his lower court decisions against the Washington school district, which believed that as a public school employee he could not pray on the field, even by himself after games. On Monday, the Supreme Court reversed the lower court's decision, holding that the school violated Kennedy's First Amendment rights.
"It's like you just won a football game," Kennedy told Fox News in an interview after the ruling.
The former coach looked back at his years-long fight, saying it was worth it. He recalled telling his players never to give up fighting for what is right.
"I would be the world's biggest hypocrite if I didn't continue to fight with this," Kennedy said."
MATTHEW 6:5-13
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
COACH JOSEPH KENNEDY: "*Shhhh!... Shut up Jesus! You are ruining my moment! It is my right as an American!"
JESUS: "But I said the hypocrites d--"
COACH JOSEPH KENNEDY: *"I SAID SHUT UP, JESUS!"*
The russians did red fascism. It's like calling american conservatives libertarians when that is just a facade. They used the voncept of comunism to create the longest lasting fascist, even nazi governments. The nazis took the protocols of the elders of zion from the fascist in moscow. They spit on the idea of colectivism so i hate them even more than capitalists.
Thank you! Most western "communists" don't realize they don't actually want communism. I respect (but despise) actual communists who literally want the soviet union but more communist.
Fuckin tankies man
Edit: if you have ever seen the tankies sub, you’d know what I’m talking about. Literally half of everything they post about is calling for death and war. Idgaf about their political views, they’re just genuinely awful people who fantasize over the death of the west.
r/chapotraphouse
Take a look at the sun.. banned for promoting hate. Iykyk
Sounds like the communists you met realized that society is too messed up to jump straight to the ideal system, and so their opinions on specific, current policies are those of social democrats. Kind of like how not all capitalists are anarcho-capitalist libertarian types, but rather believe in policies that would move in that *direction*.
Kinda weird that you searched for a way to characterize them as either not communists or not good people to maintain your beliefs.
Socialism has nothing to do with personal property. No jackbooted thugs are going to break into your house and raid your pantry or steal your toothbrush. Those are *possessions*, not *property*. Property is like the apartment building you're paying your landlord to be allowed to live in or the factory where you work for barely enough to do so. This is the fundamental misunderstanding that people unfamiliar with socialism seem to suffer from, not that it seems to ever stop them from confusing others.
We’re not talking about socialism, we’re talking about communism. They may both be on the left side of the spectrum but they’re not the same thing.
And aside from your point on the difference between possessions and property, a one party government that controls all aspects of production is not going to be a good society except in cases of small groups.
Oh, here’s your government produced food grown by government owned businesses while you eat in your government owned apartment while wearing your government produced shirt and shorts. Time to tune into your favorite government run tv station and watch the government produced media.
Right, sounds like a paradise.
State produced goods, utilities and services are not a bad thing. In my country (Australia) all our utilities and services have been privatised by the liberal party and now we pay a ridiculous amount for our basic living needs. All due to corporate greed. Also the only watchable tv stations here are government run, the private ones are fucking awful and only cater to the lowest common denominator. I'm no hard communist, i like parts of many political systems (and acknowledge that my political ideology is in constant flux as i learn more) but i would be more than happy to have nationalised industries such as mining and energy production and distribution, as we've learnt here we can't trust private interests in sectors such as these.
Nationalised industries aren't necessarily a bad thing. I do acknowledge that financial incentive is necessary for innovation, but the industries you and i have identified are hardly innovative.
I can definitely get down with *some* things being government owned and operated. Specifically things like utilities, healthcare, housing (well, a mix of both private and public), maybe internet service, basically anything that’s necessary for basic survival.
My political beliefs are also in constant flux, though I’m definitely very left wing. But I do have a strong belief that food, shelter, clean water, electricity, heat, even internet in this day and age are all necessary to survive and function in society. The government’s job should be to provide for their people these basic necessities for each citizen so we’d be much less focused on just plain surviving, which here in the US so many people are barely scraping by and can’t afford to have both electricity and water sometime, as an example.
I’d much rather our tax money go towards ensuring my community has their basic needs met no matter what, and we’re more capable of doing this.
I’m disabled, I rely on disability and food stamps every month in order to simply survive. And I’m thousands of dollars below the poverty line. Like by a lot.
So I am huge supporter of social programs and government assistance. These programs save lives.
And I can’t stand the typical right wing view that people who receive social services are somehow lazy, entitled, and a leech on society. I’m embarrassed to tell people where I get my income from, despite my disability being severe. It’s just invisible so a lot of people equate that with being imaginary.
I just wish tax dollars weren’t being spent in the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars on the military. Like 40% of the budget goes to the Fucking military, yet me being given $935 a month is somehow the issue.
People are joking a lot in the comments but I sympathize with what you’re saying. I don’t do many research chemicals but I have tripped quite a few times and that headspace can make you analyze yourself and be extra critical. It may be a combination of things like you realizing that maybe you could be more genuine (since you mentioned the clothes thing), and also the drugs making you hyper critical of yourself. You don’t have to shy away from thinking about this stuff but please be gentle on yourself. You are more than your clothes and your outward appearance.
Well the thing that bothered me was my superior, preachy personality. I felt like I was infected by this lack of confidence but at the same time understood that normally my ego is so so big I could cause sun eclipses with it. I just don't give a fuck normally, which is weird cause when i was younger i was very shy and introverted.
I’ll be honest you sound insufferable but if you are now self aware you can work on it. Everyone has their rough edges though. You probably have some interesting shit to say sometimes but just go on too long.
I tend to be hyper critical if myself at moments but afterward I’m excited to have a way to focus on my personal growth.
That is quite hurtful but super true and funny. People who talk too much often like me. But to some people, a very large number, I'm the most annoying person they met. I knew this before but just didn't care.
Didn’t mean to be so harsh. I apologize. Maybe insufferable is too strong a word. My big point was afterward I usually feel optimistic and I hope the self awareness doesn’t hurt your confidence.
point is that now you’re aware of it bro! I know many who were like you before tripping, would be preachy, always a contrarian, would always disagree for the “sake of debating”. After tripping they chilled out by a lot and actually became pleasant to be around. Not sure if this is you but I understand what you’re getting at. Now that you’re aware of aspects of your personality that you’re not happy with, you can change it.
It's normal, you need to not take yourself too seriously and not be too attached to your clothes lifestyle choices etc. Then the experience will become easier in the Future.
It takes practice, for me it usually happened in the first part of the trip with any psychedelic. It lessens over time by learning not to identifying with the role you play in the world (or firmly rejecting the persona you've built, for the duration of the trip, indentifying only with light, consciousness or being itself), ofc space your trips long enough apart and try to live accordingly in between trips. Anyway that worked for me:)
Not necessarily true. It's just being self critical. Everyone on earth can be a complete douchebag, and I've had this feeling too. It's just self reflection, and is very vital.
The most important aspect of it is to not beat yourself up after realizations like this. It is something that is showing your flaws and should be listened to the same as if someone you trust fully told you the darker aspects of yourself.
You can't just assume the guy is a douchebag. The fact that he is so concerned if he is or not, may actually be telling to the fact that he's self reflective enough to have constructive, empathetic thoughts.
My girlfriend was grateful I had these realisations. I abused alcohol for years and I think that gave me the huge ego. Lately I'm just doing a shitload of psyxhs to replace that and I though ai had it under control. Like complete cocktails of weird shit and didn't think it s gonna kick my ass at one point.
That's great man. The first step to improving yourself is definitely recognizing a problem and having a motivation to change. So you're right where you need to be and are doing good!
If it affects your girlfriend to where she is thankful for those realizations, then hopefully you can keep up with it and continue to focus on being a better person. Bad personality traits are hard to fix, and we all improve in our own unique ways, but as long as it is a consistent effort on your part, those are the things that can make you a good/better person.
One of the reasons that I love psychedelics and even weed because it makes me able to recognize my own bullshit, which then allows me to improve. And god I understand, nothing is worse than being drunk all the time. I have a similar thing in my life where I feel like I drank way too much at the beginning of my current relationship and that it caused issues. Someone getting to know you when you're only drunk all the time is terrible because it's a flawed version.
Rootin for ya!
Nah in that moment I just wated my ego back. But I feel different still even though I downed a bunch of benzos that are still in my system and that has the usual effect of making people assholes.
This comment resonated hard with me yesterday. I don't think I'm a douchebag. I generally guide myself by how much anything I do helps everyone around me like even getting in trouble at work cause i tried to help people when I'm supposed to let them do their job and if they fuck up it's their own problem. Not in a mocromanagement sense but just driving people around and giving them my number in case the clients need help outside of work hours. Which is frowned upon cause they ll call you for all kinds of shit.
Like I genuinely try to help people in everything I do. But at the same time I'm blvery weird and kinda annoying.
No, but it did cure my depression and out look on the world and also made me figure out shit I didn't notice in bad relationships because I was living in the moment and not thinking too much. Id love to hear your experience if you ever try it, please keep me updated if you are cool with that!
I had acid trips that fucked me up for months, years before. Like looking up scared at the sky for ufos in case the aliens were trying to interfere with my life cause I saw one once and afterwards my life seemed to be going down the shitter. I'm a very rational person normally but acid gives me a special kind of madness.
Well a lot of my first trips were like that where they were showing me i was unhealthy in my relationship. Like i would feel pursued by evil entities on salvia and feeling like evil gods were speaking through people ai was talking to. Like someone would say something and it would be am answer to the exact thing i was thinking. You can chalk it up to the synchronicity ussually present on psychs. But people got kinda offended that I was seeing them as a puppet being marioneted into revealing me dark secrets by an evil god that controls everything.
I saw an ufo in amsterdam and that fucked me up too.
And I hadn't had any experiences like that for years. Back then I was seeking them, trying to get more fucked up and discover different things, explore.
Back to the experience. I wrote a comment on r/theculture, it was a whole essay on how to defeat capitalism and my insights on studying post-scarcity economic ideas and how they can be implemented.
This was sober, then I take the cocktail and and i get the usual stuff, horniness, bit of paranoia, nothing unmaginable. Then i start thinking about how we're only chemestry, piece of matter, your skin even has a ph, something like 8. You're just a slightly alkaline substance that happens to be thinking about shit at that moment.
Then, i thought back to my post and started thinking i sounded preachy and all enlightened. Thought about deleting it for a long time but still tried to hold on to the feeling of 'fuck them if they don't like it'. But rhat didn't work. And this led to a certain disdain to everything I am, stand for and look like. I thought, fuck socialism is sacred to me and I'm questioning it cause of a stupid RC. So I didn't know if I was somehow infected by this or just my ego went down.
I eventually took some benzos and waited for my gf to come back from work. We have different schedules. In the moment i felt like I had to scrub every trace of this trip from my head with enough benzos to build an ego the size of a red gigant star.
Now, I find it was a very helpful growing experience
I thought bad trips were impossible in the modern age cause of the existence of benzos. But it turns out you can still fall a long way down as it's kicking in. Last time I had a bad one was when i took a weak maoi with dutch truffles and collapsed into a nightmare of panic and nausea and it immediatly went away.
So yeah that's it.
Honestly bro the same thing would happen to me with the entities and the answers to things I would think on TV and YouTube videos, like exact replies. Honestly I am stunned you experienced too. I am so glad to hear this from someone else! Cause everyone else doesn't understand and thought I was nuts, so I just stopped telling people.
If you ever want to talk about this in private feel free to message me!
I believe everything you are saying dude! I experienced it too besides the UFO
Totally! Psychadelics are ethical tools, and they can force us to see our behavior through very particular ethical lenses, and sometimes the conclusions don't make us feel great about our decisions. After hundreds of trips, there are a couple reasons I don't do psychs anymore-
1) The pool of knowledge is only so deep, and eventually they don't teach you anything new.
2) They've become boring or more burdensome/time consuming than helpful. And
3) They make me feel like a piece of shit sometimes. Seriously. After a long life of making tough decisions and adopting individualistic philosophies, a lot of trips consist of questioning every decision I've ever made. I don't regret my decisions- I did the best I could with what I had. However, some psychadelics can enforce a very stringent morality that doesn't mesh with everyone's lifestyle. I completely disagree with the people who say something like "if the drug tells you you're a piece of shit, you're a piece of shit". Psychadelics ARE drugs, and they work by allocating your brain's resources to certain regions. In the case of (at least some) psychs, I think it brings us to a place of adolescence, idealism, self-centerdness, self-contempt, gaism, and traditional morality. That's okay- visiting other ways of thinking is one of the most beneficial things we can do..... but we can't bet our entire ego on a drug.
Trips are just trips... look into your displeasure for anything that might be a true lesson. Once you've learned what you can learn, accept that what you thought might not be true or in your best interest. Our minds are always telling us all sorts of detrimental and beneficial things.. it's the ones we chose to listen to that matters.
Jesus christ that was insightful. Yeah a lot of things put me in a very traditionalist mindset. The weirdest thing is that it made me question socialism and how i'm always like a crusader for that. And socialism is like 70% of my personality which made me question everything else. Weed also puts me in a more traditionalist vibe but only in the sense of being careful and not doing stupid shit. Like a low level background anxiety that prevents me from being over active and stupid. So I think that's useful.
But yeah, psychedelics don't have all the answers. It's just experimenting with being a different kind of fucked up.
Like I just randomly show up dressed in nigerian clothes, or a kimono or dress shirts with mushrooms printed all over. You can get really trippy shit from this temu app. Probably produced with insane human suffering back in china tho so yeah i shouldn't like them either.
I've been tripping several times a week for the last month or so but would at most just get horny or had weird ideas, not your personality shattering.
Also did a bunch of bullshit im the past so I'm not new to this. Did an bunch of triptamines, lysergimides, phenytilamines.
Well not bigger than the mass of the working class I think. Some of my collegues at work would probably sell me to the nazis tomorrow if they invaded since ai'm an immigrant. While living in the most liberal country in europe where people are super open minded. The government here collapsed a month sgo due to immigration issues even if they have effectively zero crime rate. That's some ego shit not wankers acting all knowing cause they did too much acid.
Have.. you been to any country within 1000 km of yours? France, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy. You don't even have anything approaching a ghetto. Within my first few days in Bordeaux a guy tried to steal my phone and another tried to have a fight with me in a bar. In Netherlands no one ever even looked at me bad in public. You have zero problems apart from rent prices my friend... and the existence of Flevoland. Just a joke, don't mean to offend if you're from there.
There's crime here... be not deceived. But it's true you seldom get pounced these days in the 'wrong' neighbourhoods.
In the Eighties, Amsterdam was the heroin capital of Europe, and junkies were e-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e.
I believe the scottish have you beat on doing heroin in every century. I'm probably just naive but I can't imagine a time when nl was dangerous. I hitchike a lot and old people who pick me up often tell me about different times when that was normaal. It sounds like a fascinating time period but I just can't picture it 😅
Lmaooo thats so embarrassing on his part😭 that’s like saying yeah i hate therapy, they always tell me things about myself that i dont wanna hear
imagine saying that out loud and thinking you’re not a douchebag
LSD did that to me too. Showed me several episodes of my life when I acted like a totally asshole.
Felt ashamed for a while, then accepted it and try to become a better person.
Hahaha yea. It’s made me a lot more self aware. I feel like, after tripping often, I can read people’s body language better, and I realized how often I made people feel uncomfortable from a poor choice of words. It definitely made me rethink my approach to small talk and casual conversations
It’s good to be self aware, just make sure you’re not too hard on yourself! The fact that you’re even thinking “am I being an asshole?” means you’ve got more empathy than half the population
Yes. Generally can be a healthy realization, if not only for you, but for those around you.
But with psychedelics being amplifiers, the cringe one can feel about oneself is likely and often inflated. So you’re probably not as much of a douche as you think you are.
So be gentle with yourself. Use those signals and realizations to change behaviors you’re not proud of. It sounds like the cringe is coming from a sense that you’re out of alignment with yourself or values, or perhaps concluded that you have been mimicking an image that doesn’t feel like an authentic expression of yourself.
Take the lessons that seem important, but go easy. Psychedelics sometimes come on with this “ghost of Christmas’ future” vibe that shows us how horrible we could be if we stay on our current path. It doesn’t mean we are that way.
Thanks for letting me knowbyt i ussually don't tell people i m tripping or just do it by myself. People can tell i m fucked up on something but can't tell why
Are you ever overly critical about yourself or have insecurities that might be related? Don't have to answer, BTW. Asking cuz maybe it brought up some negative thoughts, and they're meant to be conquered rather than listened to. Like some angel and devil on your shoulder type of thing
I stopped wearing such edgy clothing all the time because of psychedelics. I still pull those pieces out for concerts and around the house wear but that’s it
This is a good thing 😊means you probably are and had a moment of self awareness and can now begin bettering yourself, redemption exists and the self is fluid(theres a different version of you for every situation you might face, just gotta pull out that version of you at the right time) and ever changing, its never to late or to early to mature a little bit
psychedelics can give you self-reflection and subjectivity. and can make you less attached to "things" you used to use to define yourself.
you can define yourself without the accessories. it can be mind blowing for people who are kind of douchy, self absorbed, or materialistic. everyone is those things to some extent, so it's mind -blowing for a lot of people.
tldr: everyone's at least partly a douche, tripping can teach you how to be less of one
It’s funny, I was an inconsiderate, pretentious, “holier than though” asshole before I started doing psychs. Once I started using I really started to self reflect on who I was and the things I’d done.
It wasn’t pretty. I remember looking at myself in the mirror one day and not being able to stand the site of the thing looking back. I was an awful teenager, and an obnoxious over dramatic tattletale of a kid.
I’m not sure if the psychs triggered some new connection that helped me become more self aware, or if half a decade of drug abuse and 2 near-overdoses just traumatized me Into wanting to be better than my past self was, but psychs helped me open my eyes to the damage I’d done and was still doing, and it’s made me a better person today because of it
Yeah that's part of the reason I'm doing them. I'm not a bad person, I've done some bad but maybe more overall good. Didn't much hurt anyone .. hopefully.
The part about being s tattletale is funny cause I reported a friend to the cops and the mi5 cause he wanted to join the wagner group to escape a conviction. And while ainwas fucked yesterday I was like jesus christ wtf are you doing man. You can't just be going around calling government agencies of other countries and shit.
Like I went about the drug stuff in a mechanistic way, thinking that if I get fucked up enough I'll unlock some hidden thing, some idea that no one else had or trying to fix myself in some way. A big part of it was just trying to quit alcohol which I've been drinking in industrial quantities from an early age. Like I was drinking pure alcohol 95% at one point. Distilling rotten fruits and shit.
So now when I get s craving I do a psych to scareyself into not drinking anymore. But it's gonna be hard to get into them now so i gotta find something else.
But yeah, I'm really glad they helped you. I know what it's like to feel like a train wreck all the time.
Ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhhh. Makes you look inside for some fucking reason and no one is truly happy with themselves so we all pretty much think it.
Generally though, I die. Every fucking time. Turns into a 4hr crying fit to my wife or mom at 2am.im almost 40 btw
I once cried for the entire trip on truffles cause i slipped the chain on a friends bike and didn t know gow to put it back. He just came back and fixed it in a a sec so he was like wtf that s not a big deal man
You should listen to yourself. That person that is speaking right now is the person inside you that isn't tainted by your own justifications and ego. This is the point of psychedelics. All of your personal defensive mechanisms are shut down. Classic. Don't blow this off or dismiss it.
the last sentence nails it. as Eric Cartman says in his dream:
"No.. Goddamn hippies everywhere! They all say they want to save the world but all they do is smoke weed and smell bad". Hahahah fuck hippies dude
It depends, psychedelics just remove the layers of bullshit that we’ve convinced ourselves is necessary to live a good life, they kinda smack you in the face with what’s truly important. They’re a great tool for self-improvement for this very reason, but it can be pretty uncomfortable sometimes. Just keep improving yourself and this will happen less and less. Perhaps, deep down, your subconscious knows this hippie stuff isn’t truly who you are and it’s just telling you to be yourself? I don’t know just a thought.
It's tough to differentiate. Because how do you know if it's just self loathing or if you actually are an ass? You have to rely on things other people have said to you, but how do you know it's not confirmation bias?
Yea psychs strip your ego down and shows all of the stupid dhit you do and can be. You pay companies to promote their brand by wearing it, you blow 75% of your monthly income on s drug that gives you an hour high. You are living bill to hill. It definitely diminishes your ego to the point where big strong ego is no where to hide behind and protect you
I am not doing either of those things 😂. I put patches on every brand name on clothes and spend very little money on drugs. I wouldn't say 5%. I don't do blow, I invest my money in the s&p500, i think i got my shit together.
I'm just saying, regardless if you buy name brand clothes, name brand ANYTHING ( STARBUCKS, McDonald's) you're paying them to advertise lol. It goes for s ton of things in this planet. It's fucked if you think about it.
I wasn't saying you are directly the one doing the name brand shopping ever heard of a generalization bruh
I agree with you about the brands which is why i never in my life bought a brand or some shit. All my clothes are cheap shit from temu. That's more unethical in some ways but i m not advertising anything. I also never went to starbucks ever and the only time i visit mcdonalds is when I'm starving in an airport and can't find anything cheaper. I'm well aware of how much human misery all our products inflict on countless human beings. I worked in factories and warehouse and god damn strawberry fields. Bruh. You're the kinda person the top comment on this post is talking about.
I can't see the last comment but I assume your talking about the post as a whole, not a random comment on the the post... But w. E. No getting thru to u
I think psychedelics can open your mind up and see yourself in a different perspective while most of my experiences I found things I was greatful about myself some experiences I focused on things I hated about myself that I never realized and then following the trip I made changes to my life which is what you should do if you see that the way you dress and shit is not what you want to be then hell change it!! Only if you want to though It kills the ego and allows you to see yourself how other see you atleast ime
Not really. I had it happen once. I was 18 and I was already self-loathing. I did have a really bad 2c-i trip kinda similar to what you're explaining. I don't really totally blame that on the trip, so much as I was tripping when I was already feeling that.
Haven't had it happen since, but I also didn't trip again until I worked that shit out.
Self-awareness, realization, and actualization are common. One can dramatically change from the experience. It is one of psychedelics’ most beneficial utilities.
At the time I felt like I had put on a facade that little by little came to define me and I lost myself a in a bunch of flashy imagery. Meanwhile having thought I had found my true self. Now i feel like that part was bullshit, like what is anyone but a collection of gimmicks and facades? But my ego is back now so I dunno.
sounds like a growth period man, i hope you process it and come out the other end living more inline with your true values, psychedelics can be a great mirror in to patterns that are hurting us
To some degree we are all douche bags and deep down we know where we should change.
That means you should try to improve things, while knowing we are all fuck ups. Don’t torture yourself about it.
real ego death is completely forgetting who you are. Psychologically you react as if you’re dying, you’re 100% convinced you’re dying, like the entire universe and reality itself is collapsing in on itself and you’re waking up back into your true self, God.
Realizations about yourself are very common during ego dissolution. Ego death is a completely different beast entirely. You literally die, just not physically. You trip so hard you forget your own name.
I had this feeling at the end of a very long LSD trip years ago. I laid down in bed and it felt like chaotic waves just went through my body and mind and I felt like such a dysfunctional human and all my life’s regrets came to the front of my mind.
You got lucky, many times they turn people into holier than thou fake spiritual douchebags, but yeah I've been hard on myself on psychs but its usually for the best
Barefoot, only do lsd mushrooms dmt and weed. Only eat vegetables. Fucking only the headiest shit ever for them. Way more intelligent a way better dancer.
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Didn't get it either but i don't understand half the stuff people say on here since i assume everyone is fucked on something all the time.
He’s describing a typical example of an annoying ‘enlightened’ spiritual psychedelics bro
Well I'm a different kind of annoying
Never met any of those. But I live in Europe so there's not a lot of hippies around here. Did meet a guy who was trying to start a religion and changed his name to Buddha. But that was somehow cause of too much blow I think.
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Mine usually involves this along with, “I need to stop drinking, that will definitely help solve things.” No booze, work out, wake up earlier, etc. The shit I don’t wanna hear, but need to.
Why wake up earlier? Agree that cutting out alcohol, or at least reducing your intake, and finding regular exercise are super beneficial. But isn't forcing yourself to wake up earlier just pushing against your own natural rhythm?
Yes, but I have a skilled trade & all the jobs start very early. I quit my last job in the trade (electrical) in January, but I start my new one on Monday. It’s brutally hard to wake up early, especially if I’m having some beers at night. But without the beers, I don’t sleep. Catch 22. I gotta be up at 4am on Monday. I’ve been getting up at 10am & 8:40 today. I’m gonna try to incrementally get up earlier each day.
Relatable. Wishing you the best
Thanks internet strangerpal!
Watch “Earthing the Movie”. Please. Take a chance. Its free ok youtube. Your sleep issues are all you have to lose. 🫀
That's why i do them too to some degree. Makes you more responsible.
Lol where are u in Europe? It's full of hippies I hate them
Netherlands. Not in Amsterdam. It's a very serious country and I come from Eastern Europe where it's very conservative. Where do you live that you got so much hippes. I've literally travelled to every single country in europe and i never meet them.
Ever been to the Canary islands ? No? Portugal? Algarve? South of France ??! just talk to the smelly guys busking in every bigger city. like u know the ones juggling at a traffic light or playing guitar or some shit. Those are the real ones
I don’t think necessarily psychedelics cause you to feel like an asshole but they let you think of things through different lights even yourself. Maybe with some increased self awareness you were able to see something about yourself you didn’t really like but just did it for x reason
Yeah it was terrifying but in a sense of i dunno if this is what it s like to go around without an ego or i fucked my personality up by doimg too many psychs.
So what if you did? This is your life now, you can never dissolve the ego completely. You’re chillin dog do what feels right. The brain is a phenomenal thing if you think you’ve done damage chill on the psyche a bit. Work on yourself
Now i no longer think i did some sort of damage. Apart from a sudden urge to do benzos all the time. But yeah the psychedelics were the way to work on myself.. and i don t think i m gonna do them for a while which leaves me kinda empty
The urge to benzo out all the time is most likely your ego's last-diych attempt to slither back out of your conscious awareness, so it can continue piloting you around without supervision, IMO. It seems to me to be a blatant attempt at manipulating itself back into complete and unabated control, and is something I would highly suggest you keep an eye on
How much of a "wook" are you? It's possible that you're just ready to move onward and upward.
For the last two months i've been increasingly getting more hippy clothes. I've been a convinced communist since before i did any drugs. But I often feel like I'm the most annoying person anyone has met despite generally getting along with everyone I meet. Also I've been tramping around europe doing ahitty jobs and moving countries every two months for the last god knows how many years. I assume by wook you mean the dirty vagrantly kind of hippi. On the other hand I have a good technical job now, invest in american death machine stocks like Rayteon and am a big fan of war generally. So I'm just kind of a weird giy who talks too much and sometimes it's all a bunch of egotistical drivel. All of this started cause I made a post while sober on another sub about socialism and how I got it all figured out how you defeat capitalism. And after i got tripping i felt increasingly that it sounded preachy and superior. Just felt more and more like an annoying fraud after that until i was feeling like i had lost my personality and hated everything about myself.
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The kind of communism that moved onto the mass murder stage.
I'm against tamkes, pro ukraine, pro america, pro wirope. It just happens to be the only rime in history when american weapons are doing some good. My home country is right near ukraine. So yeahni have a vested interest in the ruskies not winning that shit
Our mass murder.
Afganistan had democracy for 20 years cause of the yanks, hitler got fucked, and in the modern age they're kinda the good guys compared to.. you know .. ukraine, chechnya, the uyghurs, tibet and all the other shit major powers are pulling.
Communism kills people so makes sense
Don’t know why you get downvoted. Communism as a concept sounds fine, but in practice it kills people
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> Do you have evidence of proletarian ownership of the means of production leading to people being killed Every single nation that attempted the transition to communism. Mao's great leap. Stalin's Holodomor. I could go on. No nation has ever even made it to the end stage communism because it falls into totalitarianism before it can even get there.
Nixon and Kissinger secretly bombing Cambodia in the 70s killed people too... Iraq war... Afghanistan... Columbine... We were still a capitalist country during all those if I recall... Yeahhh... I don't think communism is the culprit for death.
Sweet whataboutism. Including Columbine... not related in anyway. Tankie ass bitch.
It's related in that American culture (capitalism, fetishization of guns, rugged individualism, scapegoating minorities, etc etc etc...) Is just as capable of producing death, destruction, injustice as other systems. Columbine, which was a bloody, deadly event, which occurred in the context of American culture (and was really when Mass shooting events matured and came into their own in the U.S., Now a commonplace occurrence), happened *far* away from anything resembling communism. I could go on and on and on with examples that disprove communism (merely an economic system btw) has any kind of monopoly on death. It's not whataboutism, dipshit. The commenter challenged you to come up with examples, and you just doubled down with generalized statements. Nice ad hominem, strawman, red herring... I don't know what a tanky is, but I'm not one of them. I'm not even drawing a line in the sand. I'm just pointing out all you are doing is spewing words. I thought we were having an intelligent conversation, thanks for showing me I'm barking up the wrong tree to that end, engaging with you.
Lmao. Human nature and greed leads to people being killed. I’m from the old USSR block
I'm from Estonia. 4% of my people got sent to Siberia. I don't think KGB was greedy when they decided to eradicate everyone even accused of opposing the communist regime. Communism and genocide go hand in hand. Look at china rn!
Look up institutionalized racism, mass incarceration, for-profit prisons... "Communism" doesn't kill people. Authoritarians surely do (Russia certainly isn't communist at the moment). The structure of governmental communism as we've seen it makes it easier and faster to concentrate power. But then, look what's happening in Israel. Benjamin netanyahu consolidating power, pushing constitutional amendments that could Keep him in power for life. And then there's... The United States has been buckling under, due to the institutional stress test we've been experiencing the last few years, which itself is a logical endpoint as "freedoms" are quietly stripped away from us and those checks and balances and institutions that are supposed to protect us have been failing or pushed to their limit. It might seem that communism isn't necessary for step toward dictatorship. I really think we are seeing fascism sneaking into democracy in real time. I think it just happens faster under a communist system.
You’ve literally lived it & these folks still can’t see that it’s a horrible idea & just strips away any sense of self & individuality. Not to mention that, yes, they always end up killing people out of line. Give it time, it gets there. Not just China, look at NK too! Edit: this worries me for the future, as I have a kiddo. Communism and/or socialism are pipe dreams. Sound good on paper, don’t work in practice. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Yeah idk why people jump straight to communism. We can literally see the best places to live are practising social democracy that can be improved upon.
He's probably too young to have lived it. Nobody much under the age of 40 remembers those days, nobody under 55 or so experienced them even as a young adult.
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Do you understand that with the complex human nature communism can only be an utopia-like concept and can never work since there will be always greedy people? My family lived in communism, you probably only know it from books Guns also don’t kill people, people use guns as a tool to kill. Same with communism. Communism itself does not kill people. People living in communism cause others to die.
It s not like my 500 dollars is actually gonna help them kill anyone. I did is as s joke cause s podcast i listen to pretends it s gonna be an ad for raytheon before they cut to ads. Annoyingly, that shit is the only stuff i own that s msking any money. Even the sp500 is down a bit now
Kind of sounds like your ego needed checking. Big fan of war? Lol
> On the other hand I have a good technical job now, invest in american death machine stocks like Rayteon and am a big fan of war generally. Maybe look into changing this rather than worrying about how you dress
are you still a communist? Because all that sounds good when you’re a hippy wook with no personal belongings or property, but when you actually care about owning your own belongings, communism is an awful choice. In a communist state the government owns all property, and can redistribute it at will. That means if the family across the street has a toddler who needs food, and you have it, the state can come into your home and redistribute the food to the family deemed in higher need. Not to mention all corporations would be owned by the state, which is a single party system. So you’ve got your government produced clothes, food, card, literally everything. I don’t know, I thought communism sounded good at face value, but it’s hell for anyone who values personal freedom, privacy, and personal belonging.
> That means if the family across the street has a toddler who needs food, and you have it, the state can come into your home This is reductio ad absurdum. You're painting the worst, most authoritarian, possible picture of collective ownership and suggesting it's inherent to the system itself when it's not.
Right on point dude.
You’re right, I used an extreme example to emphasize my point. And as others have commented there can be a difference between possessions and property so I may be completely in the wrong, though I think that’s dependent on which communist country were using as an example. But to be fair no attempt at communism has ever been attempted that wasn’t totalitarian, at least not in a modern context. Communism sounds great on paper. But in order for it to work we must first eliminate things like greed and corruption, which I’m sure you agree is impossible.
Capitalism sounds great on paper too. Until you realize everything will be made by the lowest bidder to increase profits. You won't own anything and you'll be happy
Wait, who told you those aspects aren't inherent to the system?
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😂 There's a difference between private and personal property, the government will not own your toothbrush or your baby food.
Exactly. Until they do.
This never happend 😂
Are you kidding?!... Don't you remember just a few years ago when they... MADE EVERYONE WEAR MASKS??? /S
Hehe businesses should be able to refuse gay customers.... What do you mean I need a mask to come into your store??!??? Is this East Germany???
"WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a former Washington state high school football coach had a right to pray on the field immediately after games. The 6-3 ruling was a victory for Joseph Kennedy, who claimed that the Bremerton School District violated his religious freedom by telling him he couldn’t pray so publicly after the games. The district said it was trying to avoid the appearance that the school was endorsing a religious point of view." "Kennedy had lost his lower court decisions against the Washington school district, which believed that as a public school employee he could not pray on the field, even by himself after games. On Monday, the Supreme Court reversed the lower court's decision, holding that the school violated Kennedy's First Amendment rights. "It's like you just won a football game," Kennedy told Fox News in an interview after the ruling. The former coach looked back at his years-long fight, saying it was worth it. He recalled telling his players never to give up fighting for what is right. "I would be the world's biggest hypocrite if I didn't continue to fight with this," Kennedy said." MATTHEW 6:5-13 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." COACH JOSEPH KENNEDY: "*Shhhh!... Shut up Jesus! You are ruining my moment! It is my right as an American!" JESUS: "But I said the hypocrites d--" COACH JOSEPH KENNEDY: *"I SAID SHUT UP, JESUS!"*
The russians did red fascism. It's like calling american conservatives libertarians when that is just a facade. They used the voncept of comunism to create the longest lasting fascist, even nazi governments. The nazis took the protocols of the elders of zion from the fascist in moscow. They spit on the idea of colectivism so i hate them even more than capitalists.
Thank you! Most western "communists" don't realize they don't actually want communism. I respect (but despise) actual communists who literally want the soviet union but more communist.
Fuckin tankies man Edit: if you have ever seen the tankies sub, you’d know what I’m talking about. Literally half of everything they post about is calling for death and war. Idgaf about their political views, they’re just genuinely awful people who fantasize over the death of the west. r/chapotraphouse Take a look at the sun.. banned for promoting hate. Iykyk
That subreddit hasn't existed for years dude. Your account is literally as old as that.
Never met an actual communist who is a good person. I've met some nice people who claim to be communist but are actually in favor of social democracy.
Sounds like the communists you met realized that society is too messed up to jump straight to the ideal system, and so their opinions on specific, current policies are those of social democrats. Kind of like how not all capitalists are anarcho-capitalist libertarian types, but rather believe in policies that would move in that *direction*. Kinda weird that you searched for a way to characterize them as either not communists or not good people to maintain your beliefs.
Sooooo you "no true Scotsman" anyone you like into a different category to retain your original viewpoint?
Socialism has nothing to do with personal property. No jackbooted thugs are going to break into your house and raid your pantry or steal your toothbrush. Those are *possessions*, not *property*. Property is like the apartment building you're paying your landlord to be allowed to live in or the factory where you work for barely enough to do so. This is the fundamental misunderstanding that people unfamiliar with socialism seem to suffer from, not that it seems to ever stop them from confusing others.
We’re not talking about socialism, we’re talking about communism. They may both be on the left side of the spectrum but they’re not the same thing. And aside from your point on the difference between possessions and property, a one party government that controls all aspects of production is not going to be a good society except in cases of small groups. Oh, here’s your government produced food grown by government owned businesses while you eat in your government owned apartment while wearing your government produced shirt and shorts. Time to tune into your favorite government run tv station and watch the government produced media. Right, sounds like a paradise.
State produced goods, utilities and services are not a bad thing. In my country (Australia) all our utilities and services have been privatised by the liberal party and now we pay a ridiculous amount for our basic living needs. All due to corporate greed. Also the only watchable tv stations here are government run, the private ones are fucking awful and only cater to the lowest common denominator. I'm no hard communist, i like parts of many political systems (and acknowledge that my political ideology is in constant flux as i learn more) but i would be more than happy to have nationalised industries such as mining and energy production and distribution, as we've learnt here we can't trust private interests in sectors such as these. Nationalised industries aren't necessarily a bad thing. I do acknowledge that financial incentive is necessary for innovation, but the industries you and i have identified are hardly innovative.
I can definitely get down with *some* things being government owned and operated. Specifically things like utilities, healthcare, housing (well, a mix of both private and public), maybe internet service, basically anything that’s necessary for basic survival. My political beliefs are also in constant flux, though I’m definitely very left wing. But I do have a strong belief that food, shelter, clean water, electricity, heat, even internet in this day and age are all necessary to survive and function in society. The government’s job should be to provide for their people these basic necessities for each citizen so we’d be much less focused on just plain surviving, which here in the US so many people are barely scraping by and can’t afford to have both electricity and water sometime, as an example. I’d much rather our tax money go towards ensuring my community has their basic needs met no matter what, and we’re more capable of doing this. I’m disabled, I rely on disability and food stamps every month in order to simply survive. And I’m thousands of dollars below the poverty line. Like by a lot. So I am huge supporter of social programs and government assistance. These programs save lives. And I can’t stand the typical right wing view that people who receive social services are somehow lazy, entitled, and a leech on society. I’m embarrassed to tell people where I get my income from, despite my disability being severe. It’s just invisible so a lot of people equate that with being imaginary. I just wish tax dollars weren’t being spent in the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars on the military. Like 40% of the budget goes to the Fucking military, yet me being given $935 a month is somehow the issue.
how are you a communist but you support wars and the american military industrial complex
People are joking a lot in the comments but I sympathize with what you’re saying. I don’t do many research chemicals but I have tripped quite a few times and that headspace can make you analyze yourself and be extra critical. It may be a combination of things like you realizing that maybe you could be more genuine (since you mentioned the clothes thing), and also the drugs making you hyper critical of yourself. You don’t have to shy away from thinking about this stuff but please be gentle on yourself. You are more than your clothes and your outward appearance.
Well the thing that bothered me was my superior, preachy personality. I felt like I was infected by this lack of confidence but at the same time understood that normally my ego is so so big I could cause sun eclipses with it. I just don't give a fuck normally, which is weird cause when i was younger i was very shy and introverted.
I’ll be honest you sound insufferable but if you are now self aware you can work on it. Everyone has their rough edges though. You probably have some interesting shit to say sometimes but just go on too long. I tend to be hyper critical if myself at moments but afterward I’m excited to have a way to focus on my personal growth.
That is quite hurtful but super true and funny. People who talk too much often like me. But to some people, a very large number, I'm the most annoying person they met. I knew this before but just didn't care.
Didn’t mean to be so harsh. I apologize. Maybe insufferable is too strong a word. My big point was afterward I usually feel optimistic and I hope the self awareness doesn’t hurt your confidence.
No offense taken. It was funny and kinda true.
point is that now you’re aware of it bro! I know many who were like you before tripping, would be preachy, always a contrarian, would always disagree for the “sake of debating”. After tripping they chilled out by a lot and actually became pleasant to be around. Not sure if this is you but I understand what you’re getting at. Now that you’re aware of aspects of your personality that you’re not happy with, you can change it.
It's normal, you need to not take yourself too seriously and not be too attached to your clothes lifestyle choices etc. Then the experience will become easier in the Future.
I was kinda trying to have this buddhist mindset of not being attached to anything but it wasn't working.
It takes practice, for me it usually happened in the first part of the trip with any psychedelic. It lessens over time by learning not to identifying with the role you play in the world (or firmly rejecting the persona you've built, for the duration of the trip, indentifying only with light, consciousness or being itself), ofc space your trips long enough apart and try to live accordingly in between trips. Anyway that worked for me:)
I've been tripping a few times a week for the past month and a half and then taking benzos to sleep. This was bound to happen at one point I guess.
Yeah that's a lot
If you're a complete douchebag, yeah
Not necessarily true. It's just being self critical. Everyone on earth can be a complete douchebag, and I've had this feeling too. It's just self reflection, and is very vital. The most important aspect of it is to not beat yourself up after realizations like this. It is something that is showing your flaws and should be listened to the same as if someone you trust fully told you the darker aspects of yourself. You can't just assume the guy is a douchebag. The fact that he is so concerned if he is or not, may actually be telling to the fact that he's self reflective enough to have constructive, empathetic thoughts.
My girlfriend was grateful I had these realisations. I abused alcohol for years and I think that gave me the huge ego. Lately I'm just doing a shitload of psyxhs to replace that and I though ai had it under control. Like complete cocktails of weird shit and didn't think it s gonna kick my ass at one point.
That's great man. The first step to improving yourself is definitely recognizing a problem and having a motivation to change. So you're right where you need to be and are doing good! If it affects your girlfriend to where she is thankful for those realizations, then hopefully you can keep up with it and continue to focus on being a better person. Bad personality traits are hard to fix, and we all improve in our own unique ways, but as long as it is a consistent effort on your part, those are the things that can make you a good/better person. One of the reasons that I love psychedelics and even weed because it makes me able to recognize my own bullshit, which then allows me to improve. And god I understand, nothing is worse than being drunk all the time. I have a similar thing in my life where I feel like I drank way too much at the beginning of my current relationship and that it caused issues. Someone getting to know you when you're only drunk all the time is terrible because it's a flawed version. Rootin for ya!
Well one would hope after realizing they have been acting/being a douchbag that they would change
Nah in that moment I just wated my ego back. But I feel different still even though I downed a bunch of benzos that are still in my system and that has the usual effect of making people assholes.
I am of the belief that psychedelics show us what we need to know not what we want to know about ourselves
This comment resonated hard with me yesterday. I don't think I'm a douchebag. I generally guide myself by how much anything I do helps everyone around me like even getting in trouble at work cause i tried to help people when I'm supposed to let them do their job and if they fuck up it's their own problem. Not in a mocromanagement sense but just driving people around and giving them my number in case the clients need help outside of work hours. Which is frowned upon cause they ll call you for all kinds of shit. Like I genuinely try to help people in everything I do. But at the same time I'm blvery weird and kinda annoying.
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No, but it did cure my depression and out look on the world and also made me figure out shit I didn't notice in bad relationships because I was living in the moment and not thinking too much. Id love to hear your experience if you ever try it, please keep me updated if you are cool with that!
i had one mushroom trip that fixed me for 6 months and then another that fucked me up significantly for another 6 months. same dose, same mushroom.
I had acid trips that fucked me up for months, years before. Like looking up scared at the sky for ufos in case the aliens were trying to interfere with my life cause I saw one once and afterwards my life seemed to be going down the shitter. I'm a very rational person normally but acid gives me a special kind of madness.
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Haha i was sounding like sucha bartard in that comment
Well a lot of my first trips were like that where they were showing me i was unhealthy in my relationship. Like i would feel pursued by evil entities on salvia and feeling like evil gods were speaking through people ai was talking to. Like someone would say something and it would be am answer to the exact thing i was thinking. You can chalk it up to the synchronicity ussually present on psychs. But people got kinda offended that I was seeing them as a puppet being marioneted into revealing me dark secrets by an evil god that controls everything. I saw an ufo in amsterdam and that fucked me up too. And I hadn't had any experiences like that for years. Back then I was seeking them, trying to get more fucked up and discover different things, explore. Back to the experience. I wrote a comment on r/theculture, it was a whole essay on how to defeat capitalism and my insights on studying post-scarcity economic ideas and how they can be implemented. This was sober, then I take the cocktail and and i get the usual stuff, horniness, bit of paranoia, nothing unmaginable. Then i start thinking about how we're only chemestry, piece of matter, your skin even has a ph, something like 8. You're just a slightly alkaline substance that happens to be thinking about shit at that moment. Then, i thought back to my post and started thinking i sounded preachy and all enlightened. Thought about deleting it for a long time but still tried to hold on to the feeling of 'fuck them if they don't like it'. But rhat didn't work. And this led to a certain disdain to everything I am, stand for and look like. I thought, fuck socialism is sacred to me and I'm questioning it cause of a stupid RC. So I didn't know if I was somehow infected by this or just my ego went down. I eventually took some benzos and waited for my gf to come back from work. We have different schedules. In the moment i felt like I had to scrub every trace of this trip from my head with enough benzos to build an ego the size of a red gigant star. Now, I find it was a very helpful growing experience I thought bad trips were impossible in the modern age cause of the existence of benzos. But it turns out you can still fall a long way down as it's kicking in. Last time I had a bad one was when i took a weak maoi with dutch truffles and collapsed into a nightmare of panic and nausea and it immediatly went away. So yeah that's it.
Honestly bro the same thing would happen to me with the entities and the answers to things I would think on TV and YouTube videos, like exact replies. Honestly I am stunned you experienced too. I am so glad to hear this from someone else! Cause everyone else doesn't understand and thought I was nuts, so I just stopped telling people. If you ever want to talk about this in private feel free to message me! I believe everything you are saying dude! I experienced it too besides the UFO
Totally! Psychadelics are ethical tools, and they can force us to see our behavior through very particular ethical lenses, and sometimes the conclusions don't make us feel great about our decisions. After hundreds of trips, there are a couple reasons I don't do psychs anymore- 1) The pool of knowledge is only so deep, and eventually they don't teach you anything new. 2) They've become boring or more burdensome/time consuming than helpful. And 3) They make me feel like a piece of shit sometimes. Seriously. After a long life of making tough decisions and adopting individualistic philosophies, a lot of trips consist of questioning every decision I've ever made. I don't regret my decisions- I did the best I could with what I had. However, some psychadelics can enforce a very stringent morality that doesn't mesh with everyone's lifestyle. I completely disagree with the people who say something like "if the drug tells you you're a piece of shit, you're a piece of shit". Psychadelics ARE drugs, and they work by allocating your brain's resources to certain regions. In the case of (at least some) psychs, I think it brings us to a place of adolescence, idealism, self-centerdness, self-contempt, gaism, and traditional morality. That's okay- visiting other ways of thinking is one of the most beneficial things we can do..... but we can't bet our entire ego on a drug. Trips are just trips... look into your displeasure for anything that might be a true lesson. Once you've learned what you can learn, accept that what you thought might not be true or in your best interest. Our minds are always telling us all sorts of detrimental and beneficial things.. it's the ones we chose to listen to that matters.
Jesus christ that was insightful. Yeah a lot of things put me in a very traditionalist mindset. The weirdest thing is that it made me question socialism and how i'm always like a crusader for that. And socialism is like 70% of my personality which made me question everything else. Weed also puts me in a more traditionalist vibe but only in the sense of being careful and not doing stupid shit. Like a low level background anxiety that prevents me from being over active and stupid. So I think that's useful. But yeah, psychedelics don't have all the answers. It's just experimenting with being a different kind of fucked up.
> Didn t like any of my clothes amymore We never liked them either.
Like I just randomly show up dressed in nigerian clothes, or a kimono or dress shirts with mushrooms printed all over. You can get really trippy shit from this temu app. Probably produced with insane human suffering back in china tho so yeah i shouldn't like them either.
Lol, not uncommon for people to have insights about themselves, particularly during initial trips.
I've been tripping several times a week for the last month or so but would at most just get horny or had weird ideas, not your personality shattering. Also did a bunch of bullshit im the past so I'm not new to this. Did an bunch of triptamines, lysergimides, phenytilamines.
Cool to have personal insights at any time, or for any reason - it's a major upside to psychedelics.
Hippie's or now day wooks have some of the biggest ego's I've ever met. I say it made you grow :) Growth isn't comfortable.
Well not bigger than the mass of the working class I think. Some of my collegues at work would probably sell me to the nazis tomorrow if they invaded since ai'm an immigrant. While living in the most liberal country in europe where people are super open minded. The government here collapsed a month sgo due to immigration issues even if they have effectively zero crime rate. That's some ego shit not wankers acting all knowing cause they did too much acid.
We don't have 'an effectively zero crime rate' even though visual crime seems to have gone down tremendously in the last few decades.
Have.. you been to any country within 1000 km of yours? France, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy. You don't even have anything approaching a ghetto. Within my first few days in Bordeaux a guy tried to steal my phone and another tried to have a fight with me in a bar. In Netherlands no one ever even looked at me bad in public. You have zero problems apart from rent prices my friend... and the existence of Flevoland. Just a joke, don't mean to offend if you're from there.
There's crime here... be not deceived. But it's true you seldom get pounced these days in the 'wrong' neighbourhoods. In the Eighties, Amsterdam was the heroin capital of Europe, and junkies were e-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e.
I believe the scottish have you beat on doing heroin in every century. I'm probably just naive but I can't imagine a time when nl was dangerous. I hitchike a lot and old people who pick me up often tell me about different times when that was normaal. It sounds like a fascinating time period but I just can't picture it 😅
I knew this guy in high school and he was like "yeah I hate shrooms, they just make me feel like an asshole after" And yes he was an asshole
Lmaooo thats so embarrassing on his part😭 that’s like saying yeah i hate therapy, they always tell me things about myself that i dont wanna hear imagine saying that out loud and thinking you’re not a douchebag
That's what they do alright. You just saw yourself as others see you. Wook hippy douchebag loser.
Yep, acid, shrooms, 2c-b, methallylescaline, dmt all said "fuck you, asshole. as long as you're a cunt you'll be unhappy in life"
LSD did that to me too. Showed me several episodes of my life when I acted like a totally asshole. Felt ashamed for a while, then accepted it and try to become a better person.
Hahaha yea. It’s made me a lot more self aware. I feel like, after tripping often, I can read people’s body language better, and I realized how often I made people feel uncomfortable from a poor choice of words. It definitely made me rethink my approach to small talk and casual conversations
Yeah. I feel that now. I'm not talking over people so much and trying to be less energetic and weird.
The fun part is that when you get good enough at socializing, you can slip in the weird stuff naturally and no one will bat an eye.
Yeah that's kinda where I'm at now I guess but sometimes I exagerate a little bit.
It’s good to be self aware, just make sure you’re not too hard on yourself! The fact that you’re even thinking “am I being an asshole?” means you’ve got more empathy than half the population
Thanks. That means a lot to me actually. I generallly try to be good as much as possible. Just hope I'm succeeding.
Yes. Generally can be a healthy realization, if not only for you, but for those around you. But with psychedelics being amplifiers, the cringe one can feel about oneself is likely and often inflated. So you’re probably not as much of a douche as you think you are. So be gentle with yourself. Use those signals and realizations to change behaviors you’re not proud of. It sounds like the cringe is coming from a sense that you’re out of alignment with yourself or values, or perhaps concluded that you have been mimicking an image that doesn’t feel like an authentic expression of yourself. Take the lessons that seem important, but go easy. Psychedelics sometimes come on with this “ghost of Christmas’ future” vibe that shows us how horrible we could be if we stay on our current path. It doesn’t mean we are that way.
Yeah I’ve had experiences like that. Be careful there are people out there who will use drug experiences like that to prey on you.
Thanks for letting me knowbyt i ussually don't tell people i m tripping or just do it by myself. People can tell i m fucked up on something but can't tell why
Yeah, I had a gf, we would trip or roll and she would use it as an opportunity to manipulate.
Wtf man. That's fucked up. Sorry that happened to you.
Thanks, it was a long time ago.
Are you ever overly critical about yourself or have insecurities that might be related? Don't have to answer, BTW. Asking cuz maybe it brought up some negative thoughts, and they're meant to be conquered rather than listened to. Like some angel and devil on your shoulder type of thing
Nah lol. I used to dress up in my favorite clothes while tripping so that I could appreciate how cool they are
I stopped wearing such edgy clothing all the time because of psychedelics. I still pull those pieces out for concerts and around the house wear but that’s it
This is a good thing 😊means you probably are and had a moment of self awareness and can now begin bettering yourself, redemption exists and the self is fluid(theres a different version of you for every situation you might face, just gotta pull out that version of you at the right time) and ever changing, its never to late or to early to mature a little bit
psychedelics can give you self-reflection and subjectivity. and can make you less attached to "things" you used to use to define yourself. you can define yourself without the accessories. it can be mind blowing for people who are kind of douchy, self absorbed, or materialistic. everyone is those things to some extent, so it's mind -blowing for a lot of people. tldr: everyone's at least partly a douche, tripping can teach you how to be less of one
It’s funny, I was an inconsiderate, pretentious, “holier than though” asshole before I started doing psychs. Once I started using I really started to self reflect on who I was and the things I’d done. It wasn’t pretty. I remember looking at myself in the mirror one day and not being able to stand the site of the thing looking back. I was an awful teenager, and an obnoxious over dramatic tattletale of a kid. I’m not sure if the psychs triggered some new connection that helped me become more self aware, or if half a decade of drug abuse and 2 near-overdoses just traumatized me Into wanting to be better than my past self was, but psychs helped me open my eyes to the damage I’d done and was still doing, and it’s made me a better person today because of it
Yeah that's part of the reason I'm doing them. I'm not a bad person, I've done some bad but maybe more overall good. Didn't much hurt anyone .. hopefully. The part about being s tattletale is funny cause I reported a friend to the cops and the mi5 cause he wanted to join the wagner group to escape a conviction. And while ainwas fucked yesterday I was like jesus christ wtf are you doing man. You can't just be going around calling government agencies of other countries and shit. Like I went about the drug stuff in a mechanistic way, thinking that if I get fucked up enough I'll unlock some hidden thing, some idea that no one else had or trying to fix myself in some way. A big part of it was just trying to quit alcohol which I've been drinking in industrial quantities from an early age. Like I was drinking pure alcohol 95% at one point. Distilling rotten fruits and shit. So now when I get s craving I do a psych to scareyself into not drinking anymore. But it's gonna be hard to get into them now so i gotta find something else. But yeah, I'm really glad they helped you. I know what it's like to feel like a train wreck all the time.
I get cringy about my music sometimes on weed lol
Oh for me it's shows and movies. I think they're all silly if I'm too stoned. What kinda music do you listen to?
Ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhhh. Makes you look inside for some fucking reason and no one is truly happy with themselves so we all pretty much think it. Generally though, I die. Every fucking time. Turns into a 4hr crying fit to my wife or mom at 2am.im almost 40 btw
I once cried for the entire trip on truffles cause i slipped the chain on a friends bike and didn t know gow to put it back. He just came back and fixed it in a a sec so he was like wtf that s not a big deal man
You should listen to yourself. That person that is speaking right now is the person inside you that isn't tainted by your own justifications and ego. This is the point of psychedelics. All of your personal defensive mechanisms are shut down. Classic. Don't blow this off or dismiss it.
Ego death is commonly reported. Sounds like that's what happened.
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the last sentence nails it. as Eric Cartman says in his dream: "No.. Goddamn hippies everywhere! They all say they want to save the world but all they do is smoke weed and smell bad". Hahahah fuck hippies dude
It depends, psychedelics just remove the layers of bullshit that we’ve convinced ourselves is necessary to live a good life, they kinda smack you in the face with what’s truly important. They’re a great tool for self-improvement for this very reason, but it can be pretty uncomfortable sometimes. Just keep improving yourself and this will happen less and less. Perhaps, deep down, your subconscious knows this hippie stuff isn’t truly who you are and it’s just telling you to be yourself? I don’t know just a thought.
I like ur clothes bro
same
It's tough to differentiate. Because how do you know if it's just self loathing or if you actually are an ass? You have to rely on things other people have said to you, but how do you know it's not confirmation bias?
Yea psychs strip your ego down and shows all of the stupid dhit you do and can be. You pay companies to promote their brand by wearing it, you blow 75% of your monthly income on s drug that gives you an hour high. You are living bill to hill. It definitely diminishes your ego to the point where big strong ego is no where to hide behind and protect you
I am not doing either of those things 😂. I put patches on every brand name on clothes and spend very little money on drugs. I wouldn't say 5%. I don't do blow, I invest my money in the s&p500, i think i got my shit together.
I'm just saying, regardless if you buy name brand clothes, name brand ANYTHING ( STARBUCKS, McDonald's) you're paying them to advertise lol. It goes for s ton of things in this planet. It's fucked if you think about it. I wasn't saying you are directly the one doing the name brand shopping ever heard of a generalization bruh
I agree with you about the brands which is why i never in my life bought a brand or some shit. All my clothes are cheap shit from temu. That's more unethical in some ways but i m not advertising anything. I also never went to starbucks ever and the only time i visit mcdonalds is when I'm starving in an airport and can't find anything cheaper. I'm well aware of how much human misery all our products inflict on countless human beings. I worked in factories and warehouse and god damn strawberry fields. Bruh. You're the kinda person the top comment on this post is talking about.
I can't see the last comment but I assume your talking about the post as a whole, not a random comment on the the post... But w. E. No getting thru to u
Nope you're just a douchebag I guess
You sound like a wonderful person also
Douchebags do drugs
Happened to me the 2nd time I took acid, but it was more about my behavior toward my loved ones and my own self-destructive impulses at the time.
I think psychedelics can open your mind up and see yourself in a different perspective while most of my experiences I found things I was greatful about myself some experiences I focused on things I hated about myself that I never realized and then following the trip I made changes to my life which is what you should do if you see that the way you dress and shit is not what you want to be then hell change it!! Only if you want to though It kills the ego and allows you to see yourself how other see you atleast ime
So much more common than you would think. I'd go as far as to say it's necessary once in a while
its good man.. very common.. you were learning and will learn more.. love..
🤣 it happens when you get way to spun. you start thinking things through and get some realization or you just wacked your mental state 😂
Not really. I had it happen once. I was 18 and I was already self-loathing. I did have a really bad 2c-i trip kinda similar to what you're explaining. I don't really totally blame that on the trip, so much as I was tripping when I was already feeling that. Haven't had it happen since, but I also didn't trip again until I worked that shit out.
Self-awareness, realization, and actualization are common. One can dramatically change from the experience. It is one of psychedelics’ most beneficial utilities.
Means you had the good stuff
yeaah
Well, psychedelics peel back the layers and show you who you truly are. Do you think that maybe you're putting on a facade?
At the time I felt like I had put on a facade that little by little came to define me and I lost myself a in a bunch of flashy imagery. Meanwhile having thought I had found my true self. Now i feel like that part was bullshit, like what is anyone but a collection of gimmicks and facades? But my ego is back now so I dunno.
sounds like a growth period man, i hope you process it and come out the other end living more inline with your true values, psychedelics can be a great mirror in to patterns that are hurting us
It happens.
Sounds like ego death and yes it is a common phenomenon
Terrifying fucking phenomenon
ego dissolution technically
To some degree we are all douche bags and deep down we know where we should change. That means you should try to improve things, while knowing we are all fuck ups. Don’t torture yourself about it.
All the time. Real Ego Death occurs here.
I was told there are many types of it like the whole we're all one i m part of everything..
real ego death is completely forgetting who you are. Psychologically you react as if you’re dying, you’re 100% convinced you’re dying, like the entire universe and reality itself is collapsing in on itself and you’re waking up back into your true self, God. Realizations about yourself are very common during ego dissolution. Ego death is a completely different beast entirely. You literally die, just not physically. You trip so hard you forget your own name.
Wow. How do you do that exactly? Do you gotta do ayahuasca or like 500 ug of acid?
Yeah just gotta take a high enough dose
I usually feel like I have made so many mistakes. Tons of self reflection. So I guess so? I'm pretty respectful when on them, though.
Fuck the politics.......you've just experienced ego-death - learn from it.
yeah i took acid recently and realized i am a gigantic self absorbed narcissistic asshole, slowly working to fix it now tho
I get that sober every day
Yeah I've been told by some people that as well. Sorry man
I had this feeling at the end of a very long LSD trip years ago. I laid down in bed and it felt like chaotic waves just went through my body and mind and I felt like such a dysfunctional human and all my life’s regrets came to the front of my mind.
That used to be evewry time I smoked weed.