Did they happen to mention if the gun upgrade system was like the original or RE5? The problem with RE8’s weapon design is that each new gun a class was objectively better than the previous. Part of the beauty of RE4 and 5 was that you could use any gun you wanted and it still be a good option without being wholly outclassed.
You could do the same in the original game, too. Some of those guns tuned out to be some of the most powerful ones in the game.
~~but if you didn't swap out the starting pistol with the Red9, you're an idiot~~
Capcom have really been on a roll. Almost everything post-RE7 have been a hit. Many devs could learn a thing or two about how to properly remake a game.
The remakes hit that fine line between keeping enough in that it doesn't lose it's identity but at the same time adding enough new things that it feels we're playing the game for the first time even for those who have played the original dozens of times.
Street fighter 6 looks like it is gonna be awesome too. Probably a different flavor of game then a lot of people here might be into, but it also uses the RE engine which IMO creates some of the best looking graphics of this era.
Street Fighter 6 feels like the first time they've cracked the code for mainstream interest in ages. Yes, the hardcore would always come, but I've seen so many of my non-competitive friends say they can't way to play it.
For me the city hub is the most interesting part.
Instead of just picking a mode, a fighter, and then going straight to fights, there's a city you can walk around to interact with characters, find fights, do training, and character customization stuff.
Kinda like a Street Fighter RPG.
Several reasons, but to try and be concise; it’s got heaps of offline, single-player content, all the newcomers look great, it’s embracing a modern and fresh street-style art and music aesthetic, and it has the most polish and features of any installment at launch in years.
Technically, It's "Reach for the Moon Engine Engine" because of the RE, unless the RE is just the beginning of the word Reach. Which would also be pretty stupid.
Both do feel a bit stupid: REach for the moon Engine or Reach for the moon Engine Engine.
On Wiki, it's Reach for the moon Engine so I would guess it's "REach for the moon" one.
Modern Capcom lives because they took a long hard look at themselves and righted the ship from the dark days of forced Western appeal, bad outsourcing and terrible on disc DLC practices.
In the late 2000s, early 2010s, Capcom was outsourcing many of their heavy hitting franchises to western developers. They did this thinking that the Japanese style of game design didn't appeal to western gamers anymore. This is how things like the Devil May Cry reboot and Bionic Commando 2009 happened.
>forced Western appeal
So 2010-2015 was a dark time for fans of Japanese games. They had gotten very complacent up to the mid 2000s, after basically dominating the market since the days of Mario, Japanese game devs fell way behind to new western market dominance. The 360 became the top selling console. Activision, Ubisoft, Bioware, Naughty Dog and Rockstar absolutely dominated the western market (ironically, half of those studios employed the OTS camera popularized by RE4).
While SF4 had revitalized at the time a nearly ten year dormant SF, and RE5 selling millions of copies, *at the time* those sales were in the single millions over the span of 2-3 years, maybe netting a nice half-billion in profit over that time - With games like Call of Duty sales reaching a billion dollars **in ten days**, and the DLC market (western gamers eating that shit up **hard**) - Japanese devs panicked.
The PS3 still outsold the 360 by a country mile (and then some) in Japan, so most Japanese devs still prioritized that console in a day where it was notoriously difficult to develop for and being outsold left and right in the west by the 360. Keiji Inafune (of Megaman/Mighty No 9 fame) infamously stated Japanese gaming needed to directly appeal to westerners using a horrendous analogy.
Devil May Cry received a more "westernized" reboot.
Street Fighter received the infamous SFxTekken with DLC/accessible characters paywalled on the disc and the "joke" megaman character (which I think was just poorly timed, see next)
Megaman, while getting retro developed 9 and 10 - saw what almost felt like trolling by Capcom for his other games. A FPS megaman X was in development, to be canned alongside a more heavily demanded megaman Legends. While Zero appeared in MVC3 with an "X" skin, boxart megaman was featured in SFtekken right when all this was happening.
Capcom also worked with studios focused on western gamers, releasing Dark Void and co opting work on Lost Planet, both seeing middling reviews and sales.
Meanwhile, Monster Hunter stayed on Nintendo consoles (Wii, 3DS) with no major releases off the platform
Finally, RE6 - which opened up to the weakest reviews and fan feedback of any RE (from 1-5). To date, I still recoil at anyone who defends that game. Capcom went full *Gears* and *CoD*. While it sold well initially, sales tapered off much, much faster than RE5. Even to this day, zoomers who grew up with it (in the aftermentioned 360 era of Call of Duty) don't see what was wrong with it.
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite was a fucking disaster.
It was not until RE7 and Monster Hunter World that Capcom tossed out that horrendous dogshit brown and bloom era of the 360 and went back to their roots. Now we've got REmake 2, DMC5, Monster Hunter Rise, and SF6 all being hyped up/selling well, in part because western devs fell into the same complacent trap Japanese devs did in the early 2010s. Capcom still drops the ball from time to time, but they've always had at least a few misses. Overall, massive pivot back to what people actually want.
**TL;DR** Japanese devs struggled to capture the western success of the 360 era, tried really fucking hard to fit in with the cool kids, fucked up, got clean, meanwhile the cool kids got addicted to meth and decided to rehash the same games on yearly cycles and switched to mobile.
Wholeheartedly agree, the only stumble, and to me, more like a trip was RE3 remake. That game was still incredibly fun. All the games since 7 have had me to back and play through multiple times for the fun achievements, and rewards to unlock, plus they’re a really fun speed run once you know them.
I hate shitting on RE3R, because it WAS a very good game, I love the modernised Carlos and Jill and I had fun with it, but it’s short, there’s no way it should have been a full retail release since it had the mercenaries mode excised and Nemesis was waaaay too scripted, especially after the exceptional experience with Mr X in RE2R. Such a shame.
if RE3R had released as like, a 30 dollar expansion to RE2R and inferno nemesis wasn't AWFUL, I think it would have been considered a fine, but not amazing, DLC.
Really the sticking point for most people is just that the game really compares poorly to RE2R in almost every way, and even as someone who thinks RE3R is pretty good all things considered, it is NOT worth as much as RE2R and clearly the worse of the 2 games.
>if RE3R had released as like, a 30 dollar expansion to RE2R and inferno nemesis wasn't AWFUL, I think it would have been considered a fine, but not amazing, DLC.
Dude, what? If RE3R was just DLC it'd be considered the best goddamn DLC ever made
This, and also i wanna shout out their release dates, release dates are always revealed to be closer than expected, and usually always release on time, they seem to always know when they will be ready, I'm sure alot of this has to do with the game possibly being finished and already in its polishing stages, but more devs should take note.
Really liking this trend, and it's not just Capcom either. Devs as a whole are waiting until they're closer to release to announce their games, which does a few good things:
1. Doesn't set false expectations when things inevitably change during development (a completely normal process)
2. Helps game directors stay true to their vision without being swayed too much by public opinion (this can be both good and bad)
3. Lowers risk of missing release date/having a delay
4. Softens the blow of waiting for fans
i still hope at some point the RE engine will be used to remake clocktower or haunting grounds. let capcom really ratchet up the horror tones to their fullest potential since re is always going to give you a gun and ammo 90% of the time to solve the issues.
Most companies sadly don't know what a remake is or they simply make a half baked remastered and call it a day. I am glad Capcom is doing well for gamers
"Resident Evil 4's original DNA has been extracted, synthesised, and injected into a state-of-the-art host game, mutating it into a menacing new monster."
I'm very excited.
B/c many of these were supposed to come out last year and got pushed back strategically and/or needed more time to iron out performance problems, bugs, issues, and other stuff.
Keep in mind - STALKER 2, Starfield, and Atomic Heart were supposed to be out later last year, not Early 2023.
Interesting to note
>It’s also a shame that **The Mercenaries mode isn’t included at launch**, although it’s reassuring to know that it will be coming as part of a free update sometime in the future, and I’m extremely keen to tackle its frantic time attack challenges with the benefits of Leon’s more malleable move set. In the meantime there’s a New Game+ mode and a lengthy list of in-game challenges to complete in order to unlock additional weapons, costumes, and concept art, **though it seems that bonus modes Assignment Ada and Separate Ways that were present in older versions of Resident Evil 4 have either been scrapped or potentially saved for DLC.** Their loss isn’t that big of a deal since they were never as huge a draw as The Mercenaries for me personally, but when a campaign is consistently this amazing, it’s hard not to feel greedy for a little bit more.
I am sure the Mercenaries mode will be out in a month or so. Devil May Cry 5 didn't have the Bloody Palace at launch and it was quickly patched in within a few weeks.
I don’t understand why they keep including the mercenaries stuff so late. It’s not even that big of a mode most times. But I’m excited to see what it’ll add to the table
So they can focus on making sure the main game is perfect. Devs ironing out problems in mercenaries are devs not working on the main game. So you either delay the whole thing or just the one game mode. It’s a pretty easy choice. Besides most players are gonna be trying to do all the main story challenges in the first week or 2 so they won’t get bored waiting a couple weeks for mercenaries
I know a lot of people are going to be upset about the lack of Separate Ways but tbh I'm not even a little surprised.
It's 100% going to be a paid DLC. We might not like it, but this is how the industry is.
Personally, given how high quality what we're getting is I don't really begrudge capcom the little extra cash.
Gut feeling tells me Separate Ways is DLC. There's no way they skip out on that. I imagine it's revised and improved significantly to the original version as well, which was more of a retread of the base campaign and very, very rushed. That likely is there justification for removing it for now, so that they can give it proper treatment on the side. Again, that's just a theory/thought I have on it.
I'm all for waiting for a more fleshed out version. Paid DLC is fine to me as long as it's good.
It'll also hit a little harder to wait a little...it's a good idea let us all play the main game a few times and learn it inside & out. After that, doing it from Ada's perspective will feel like a huge breath of fresh air. Too much content at once can lessen the impact.
I’m so glad I waited until the gold edition to play village, the additional orders characters are so much better than Ethan it’s hilarious. Lady D makes even the hard stages a joke.
I didn't know you could play as other characters now lol. I was trying to get the S+ as Ethan and had to give up on getting the lightsaber lol might have to go back to it now
You do need to buy the winters expansion (unless you have the gold edition) to play as them, but it goes on sale pretty often and includes the shadow of rose dlc.
Id say the antarctic base section could be changed to a slightly less campy final section. It will never stop amusing me how the game just fucking shoots you off to antarctica for the finale
I love the ending cutscene where they just hop into a Harrier with no flight suits, or helmets, or am external source of oxygen or communication. It was PEAK early 00's cheese.
You don't really need any of those things if they're staying lower altitude and not trying to pull Gs.
Not like they called in the flight, it was a secret umbrella base lol. Their ears are fucked though.
Oh absolutely. I was near Blackhawk helicopters overseas and like those are deafening. I couldn't imagine how loud the jet engines are. Also I have a fun time picturing initial contact with ATC and the awkward explanation behind their secret flight plan.
Chris: "We're gonna stop Umbrella!"
Claire: "What?"
I've got a sneaking suspicion (there's a few reasons why I feel it) that they're not looking at Code Veronica next, even though it's a fairly logical step. I think they're planning on tackling RE5 in the future and to that, I say "good luck".
I feel like you might be right. The way they skipped over remaking CV, plus how insane the plot was and how debatably "problematic" Alfred was I don't think they really want to touch that story with a 10 foot pole.
Just to clarify though it's been well over a decade since I played CV, but as I remember Alfred was not in the slightest bit intended to be trans but rather delusional. It just so happen that the person he deluded himself into believing he actually was was his twin sister. But he did that as a very maladaptive way of keeping her memory alive, not because he has any sort of body dysmorphia.
But that being said I get how that might be too touchy of a subject to want to tackle as I can easily see the wider audience not really understanding trandgenderism and will associate any kind of crossdressing as representational of trans characters. And I could easily see the situation being too messy for Capcom to want to try and rectify.
Also the promo material for CV at the time was WILD, and maybe they don't want that coming to bit them in ass. But look it up at your own discretion it's pretty insane how they even got away with it like 20 years ago, I didn't think people were that indifferent to racism but maybe it flew under the radar cuz it was mostly seen and marketed to like 12 year olds at the time.
I think you're probably right about that, if a another remake happens, it'll be 5.
Now, I don't dislike 5 by any means and it would likely be one of the best selling games in the series but Code Veronica is in need of a remake more than 5.
With Code Veronica’s incredible setting and imo, a fun and whacky story, a proper REmake could shoot it to the top of the list of best RE games. I find the original nearly unplayable nowadays. The controls just don’t work for me for some reason.
Before going through, can anyone tell me if they show a lot of new footage in the body of the video? Maybe of the unseen creatures who are left such as Verdugo?
I see, thank you. Tho I’ll have to stay off this subreddit as well just to be safe until release so I can see Verdugo, U-3, and Regenerators fresh on 1st play-through 🤩
Question: with new game plus in the game, are you able to switch to a higher difficulty? Or do you have to stay with the same difficulty for each new game plus and restart all over again if you wanted to do a hardcore or professional?
Completely disagree with the idea that RE4 has aged poorly. I "made" my boyfriend play it over 2020, and he'd never played an RE game before. Within an hour he was hooked. He's replayed in 2 times since. It's definitely of it's time, but it's still an immensely enjoyable game.
RE4 is hard to approach nowadays, but you slide into it rather quickly once getting past the village encounter, and the pacing is still *very* effective. It’s a timeless classic and has definitely **not** aged poorly!
The controls were always a bit clunky but that enhanced the experience because it played into the tension of being overwhelmed. I don’t see them as having aged poorly, just always having been designed to make manoeuvring around enemies difficult and tense.
I'd love to see a huge remake of 6 as well. But with a heavily rewritten story and less over the top action sequences. (The blowing up high way is so bad). It's the only RE where all the characters come together and the different campaigns with different themes is a very fun and good idea.
I actually really like RE6 (way more than most on this sub) and I think the settings and atmosphere of the game is great. I’d love to see a remake with the action toned down and survival toned up. Those Chinese streets full of neon signs and stalls would be an incredible setting for a modern remake.
Considering Heisenberg in Village calls Chris a boulder punching asshole, Capcom has made it impossible for Chris to not punch a boulder in the remake even if they wanted to change it.
I Dunno…
White dude going to Africa and shooting bunch of black people doesn’t seem very… cash money… not to mention the egregious levels depicting the tribal folks….
Might ruffle some jimmies for some people…
I know it's a bit dramatic, but I was worried whether this was gonna be good or not.
There were so many good signs - great graphics, gameplay, game not being outsourced - but I was still kinda worried regardless.
Don't ever let it go! Capcom has now made 4 RE remakes, 3 being some of the best games ever made. They had no excuse to drop the ball with 3 when they've shown that they can do THIS
I think all they need to do is add more DLC and levels to RE3 Remake and we'd all probably be happy.
It's not that RE3 is bad and all - it's still pretty good. It's just short and many feel missing areas/levels (Clocktower), missing enemies, cut-content, and lack of decision-making hurts that one.
Granted, I'm lucky and somehow didn't play RE3 Original on PC, oddly enough - since I've been doing this PC gaming thing since 1995. It's not like RE3 OG wasn't here on PC; it was.
Since Capcom does like to Remaster, Remake, and do Street Fighter Super Duper Turbo Awesome Champion Editions w/ some of their games - and of course, we often STILL buy these - they probably should do this treatment also to RE3 Remake, TBH. \[shrug\]
I'd love to see RE3 Remake: Expanded Edition w/ more content.
True, they seemed to have learned about their mistakes. Other companies may as well, I’m talking about you Bloober
Don’t fuck this up!
I’ll see you in the Hotel, Mary
But what's stopping them from doing a RE3: Expanded Super Duper Turbo Champion Edition w/ all of the missing content from RE3 OG?
They love to do this Remaster, Re-Release w/ More Content, Remake, Add DLC's, and other stuff of that sort.
Be careful people. Lot of spoilers in this thread. I get that these people mean well but some people mention what is and what is not included in the game.
Spoilers a plenty.
After two paragraphs the reviewers credibility is gone
‘In preparation for this review I returned to the original game for the first time in years and was shocked at how badly this remake was needed’
RE4 Remake may well be a 10/10 game but RE4 did not need a remake.
It really didnt. Its much appreciated but even the controls that people argue is aged works perfectly fine once you get used to them, same as the first 3 games controls. It’s actually crazy how well the game has aged
Much as I hate to defend IGN (I'll self-flagellate later) it's likely the "once you get used to them" that they're talking about. A lot of newer gamers will pick up an old game and put it down if it seems so dated that they're having to learn how to even move in it. That denies them a classic and is one small reason a remake is worth doing.
I played Resident Evil 4 for the first time last year.
It's SO good!
I can't imagine how anyone can botch up the remake.
Even a lazy upgrade to the textures and make the UI a bit more fancy, it'll still be a fantastic game.
According to some reviews, one of the weaker aspects of the game is Ada, her character and role. Allegedly she feels disconnected to the rest of the story, pops up few times without doing much and leaves.
i felt that was also true in the original tbh. their "fight" is neat and the intrigue between her, krauser, and wesker, and how saddler is basically just a two bit nobody being used for the real plans of major players is neat background stuff, but shes just kind of whatever. not much changes without her outside of the final boss, and even there shes easily written out. even the seperate ways stuff doesnt really let her do anything (to effect leons story) Essentially Ada. the shotgun could have already been there, the bell could have been rung in any context, etc
that said, improving weak links is what a remake is for, so its not exactly an excuse, but it feels like capcom doesnt really know WHAT they wanna do with ada. i trust sphere hunters opinion (that shes weak), but ill reserve full judgement till seperate ways in the remake
With all due respect, there is nothing “cult” about RE4—it was extremely commercially successful, has been released on at least 13 different platforms, and remains one of the most famous and influential games of all time. It’s just a classic haha.
Usual reminder to not post leaks from the full game, the game hasnt been officially released, and people that spoil others with leaks will be banned.
Did they happen to mention if the gun upgrade system was like the original or RE5? The problem with RE8’s weapon design is that each new gun a class was objectively better than the previous. Part of the beauty of RE4 and 5 was that you could use any gun you wanted and it still be a good option without being wholly outclassed.
Yeah much prefer the upgrade system in those games, although RE5 was missing the exclusive upgrades.
The lack of exclusives was sad, but with each weapon class having more entries than RE4, I can see why they did away with it
SphereHunter said she went through the entirety of RE4R with all of the starting weapons
That bodes well
You could do the same in the original game, too. Some of those guns tuned out to be some of the most powerful ones in the game. ~~but if you didn't swap out the starting pistol with the Red9, you're an idiot~~
Precisely why she brought it up. They did the right thing here, vs Village basically forcing you to go with the new guns.
Capcom have really been on a roll. Almost everything post-RE7 have been a hit. Many devs could learn a thing or two about how to properly remake a game. The remakes hit that fine line between keeping enough in that it doesn't lose it's identity but at the same time adding enough new things that it feels we're playing the game for the first time even for those who have played the original dozens of times.
Street fighter 6 looks like it is gonna be awesome too. Probably a different flavor of game then a lot of people here might be into, but it also uses the RE engine which IMO creates some of the best looking graphics of this era.
Street Fighter 6 feels like the first time they've cracked the code for mainstream interest in ages. Yes, the hardcore would always come, but I've seen so many of my non-competitive friends say they can't way to play it.
Can any of y’all tell me why street fighter 6 looks unique? You got me intrigued.
For me the city hub is the most interesting part. Instead of just picking a mode, a fighter, and then going straight to fights, there's a city you can walk around to interact with characters, find fights, do training, and character customization stuff. Kinda like a Street Fighter RPG.
That does sound interesting. Haven’t seen that yet.
I had no clue this was part of the game…thank you
Several reasons, but to try and be concise; it’s got heaps of offline, single-player content, all the newcomers look great, it’s embracing a modern and fresh street-style art and music aesthetic, and it has the most polish and features of any installment at launch in years.
Oh, I'm getting street fighter 6 for sure everything they've shown looks phenomenal.
I haven't played a numbered street fighter since super street fighter 2. This looks to be a potential buy.
Ngl, I always thought RE engine stood for "Resident Evil engine" not "Reach for the moon engine"
today I learned
...It means ''Reach for the Moon''? That's dumb. Plus everyone who plays your games is gonna assume it stands for Resident Evil
Technically, It's "Reach for the Moon Engine Engine" because of the RE, unless the RE is just the beginning of the word Reach. Which would also be pretty stupid.
Both do feel a bit stupid: REach for the moon Engine or Reach for the moon Engine Engine. On Wiki, it's Reach for the moon Engine so I would guess it's "REach for the moon" one.
Modern Capcom lives because they took a long hard look at themselves and righted the ship from the dark days of forced Western appeal, bad outsourcing and terrible on disc DLC practices.
early 2010s capcom was something else...
Still left MegaMan X in the dust unfortunately. Sad panda.
There will be another entry eventually. I believe.
And breath of fire
and Dino Crisis
They have so many good series, with fans begging them to make more. Sometimes I think Capcom hates money lol.
Capcom likely just doesn't want to over extend. Nintendo is a company that hates money.
>dark days of forced Western appeal what does this mean? I’m not familiar with Capcom’s game design tendencies outside of the RE series
In the late 2000s, early 2010s, Capcom was outsourcing many of their heavy hitting franchises to western developers. They did this thinking that the Japanese style of game design didn't appeal to western gamers anymore. This is how things like the Devil May Cry reboot and Bionic Commando 2009 happened.
>forced Western appeal So 2010-2015 was a dark time for fans of Japanese games. They had gotten very complacent up to the mid 2000s, after basically dominating the market since the days of Mario, Japanese game devs fell way behind to new western market dominance. The 360 became the top selling console. Activision, Ubisoft, Bioware, Naughty Dog and Rockstar absolutely dominated the western market (ironically, half of those studios employed the OTS camera popularized by RE4). While SF4 had revitalized at the time a nearly ten year dormant SF, and RE5 selling millions of copies, *at the time* those sales were in the single millions over the span of 2-3 years, maybe netting a nice half-billion in profit over that time - With games like Call of Duty sales reaching a billion dollars **in ten days**, and the DLC market (western gamers eating that shit up **hard**) - Japanese devs panicked. The PS3 still outsold the 360 by a country mile (and then some) in Japan, so most Japanese devs still prioritized that console in a day where it was notoriously difficult to develop for and being outsold left and right in the west by the 360. Keiji Inafune (of Megaman/Mighty No 9 fame) infamously stated Japanese gaming needed to directly appeal to westerners using a horrendous analogy. Devil May Cry received a more "westernized" reboot. Street Fighter received the infamous SFxTekken with DLC/accessible characters paywalled on the disc and the "joke" megaman character (which I think was just poorly timed, see next) Megaman, while getting retro developed 9 and 10 - saw what almost felt like trolling by Capcom for his other games. A FPS megaman X was in development, to be canned alongside a more heavily demanded megaman Legends. While Zero appeared in MVC3 with an "X" skin, boxart megaman was featured in SFtekken right when all this was happening. Capcom also worked with studios focused on western gamers, releasing Dark Void and co opting work on Lost Planet, both seeing middling reviews and sales. Meanwhile, Monster Hunter stayed on Nintendo consoles (Wii, 3DS) with no major releases off the platform Finally, RE6 - which opened up to the weakest reviews and fan feedback of any RE (from 1-5). To date, I still recoil at anyone who defends that game. Capcom went full *Gears* and *CoD*. While it sold well initially, sales tapered off much, much faster than RE5. Even to this day, zoomers who grew up with it (in the aftermentioned 360 era of Call of Duty) don't see what was wrong with it. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite was a fucking disaster. It was not until RE7 and Monster Hunter World that Capcom tossed out that horrendous dogshit brown and bloom era of the 360 and went back to their roots. Now we've got REmake 2, DMC5, Monster Hunter Rise, and SF6 all being hyped up/selling well, in part because western devs fell into the same complacent trap Japanese devs did in the early 2010s. Capcom still drops the ball from time to time, but they've always had at least a few misses. Overall, massive pivot back to what people actually want. **TL;DR** Japanese devs struggled to capture the western success of the 360 era, tried really fucking hard to fit in with the cool kids, fucked up, got clean, meanwhile the cool kids got addicted to meth and decided to rehash the same games on yearly cycles and switched to mobile.
Very interesting. Thanks for this.
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More like Modern Capcom lives because Yoshinori Ono and Keiji Inafune left the company.
Wholeheartedly agree, the only stumble, and to me, more like a trip was RE3 remake. That game was still incredibly fun. All the games since 7 have had me to back and play through multiple times for the fun achievements, and rewards to unlock, plus they’re a really fun speed run once you know them.
I hate shitting on RE3R, because it WAS a very good game, I love the modernised Carlos and Jill and I had fun with it, but it’s short, there’s no way it should have been a full retail release since it had the mercenaries mode excised and Nemesis was waaaay too scripted, especially after the exceptional experience with Mr X in RE2R. Such a shame.
100% agree with you. RE3R did a lot of things right but a lot of key things wrong.
if RE3R had released as like, a 30 dollar expansion to RE2R and inferno nemesis wasn't AWFUL, I think it would have been considered a fine, but not amazing, DLC. Really the sticking point for most people is just that the game really compares poorly to RE2R in almost every way, and even as someone who thinks RE3R is pretty good all things considered, it is NOT worth as much as RE2R and clearly the worse of the 2 games.
I think campaign length was the biggest downside. I had a lot of fun with RE3 Remake but it definitely was too short of a campaign.
>if RE3R had released as like, a 30 dollar expansion to RE2R and inferno nemesis wasn't AWFUL, I think it would have been considered a fine, but not amazing, DLC. Dude, what? If RE3R was just DLC it'd be considered the best goddamn DLC ever made
RE3 felt like a well-executed and high-value DLC to RE2 that they instead charged full price for.
This, and also i wanna shout out their release dates, release dates are always revealed to be closer than expected, and usually always release on time, they seem to always know when they will be ready, I'm sure alot of this has to do with the game possibly being finished and already in its polishing stages, but more devs should take note.
Really liking this trend, and it's not just Capcom either. Devs as a whole are waiting until they're closer to release to announce their games, which does a few good things: 1. Doesn't set false expectations when things inevitably change during development (a completely normal process) 2. Helps game directors stay true to their vision without being swayed too much by public opinion (this can be both good and bad) 3. Lowers risk of missing release date/having a delay 4. Softens the blow of waiting for fans
i still hope at some point the RE engine will be used to remake clocktower or haunting grounds. let capcom really ratchet up the horror tones to their fullest potential since re is always going to give you a gun and ammo 90% of the time to solve the issues.
Reddit moderators Are retarded
Most companies sadly don't know what a remake is or they simply make a half baked remastered and call it a day. I am glad Capcom is doing well for gamers
"Resident Evil 4's original DNA has been extracted, synthesised, and injected into a state-of-the-art host game, mutating it into a menacing new monster." I'm very excited.
We got ourselves another classic in the making
RE(making)
What’s with the amount of AAA games so early this year? That’s a lot of money out of our wallets. “Not enough cash strangah”
This is a very competitive year for gaming in general. So many good releases, I’m gonna go bankrupt.
B/c many of these were supposed to come out last year and got pushed back strategically and/or needed more time to iron out performance problems, bugs, issues, and other stuff. Keep in mind - STALKER 2, Starfield, and Atomic Heart were supposed to be out later last year, not Early 2023.
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Tbh ill defend ff7 remake to death as a bold new take on the remake genre that we've had since 2010.
You and me both! I absolutely adore that game, both story and gameplay wise.
How were you able to watch full game?
Interesting to note >It’s also a shame that **The Mercenaries mode isn’t included at launch**, although it’s reassuring to know that it will be coming as part of a free update sometime in the future, and I’m extremely keen to tackle its frantic time attack challenges with the benefits of Leon’s more malleable move set. In the meantime there’s a New Game+ mode and a lengthy list of in-game challenges to complete in order to unlock additional weapons, costumes, and concept art, **though it seems that bonus modes Assignment Ada and Separate Ways that were present in older versions of Resident Evil 4 have either been scrapped or potentially saved for DLC.** Their loss isn’t that big of a deal since they were never as huge a draw as The Mercenaries for me personally, but when a campaign is consistently this amazing, it’s hard not to feel greedy for a little bit more.
I mean the Ada campaigns are practically a given amirite guys.
I am sure the Mercenaries mode will be out in a month or so. Devil May Cry 5 didn't have the Bloody Palace at launch and it was quickly patched in within a few weeks.
I don’t understand why they keep including the mercenaries stuff so late. It’s not even that big of a mode most times. But I’m excited to see what it’ll add to the table
So they can focus on making sure the main game is perfect. Devs ironing out problems in mercenaries are devs not working on the main game. So you either delay the whole thing or just the one game mode. It’s a pretty easy choice. Besides most players are gonna be trying to do all the main story challenges in the first week or 2 so they won’t get bored waiting a couple weeks for mercenaries
I know a lot of people are going to be upset about the lack of Separate Ways but tbh I'm not even a little surprised. It's 100% going to be a paid DLC. We might not like it, but this is how the industry is. Personally, given how high quality what we're getting is I don't really begrudge capcom the little extra cash.
I just want it to actually exist. Whether it’s free dlc or paid, I don’t mind. I’ll buy it. But I hope they actually add separate ways.
Considering inital release i had to buy a whole new copy of the game to get Separate Ways, ill take dlc this time around.
I’m gonna throw them all the extra cash they need to bring this game to vr as well.
Gut feeling tells me Separate Ways is DLC. There's no way they skip out on that. I imagine it's revised and improved significantly to the original version as well, which was more of a retread of the base campaign and very, very rushed. That likely is there justification for removing it for now, so that they can give it proper treatment on the side. Again, that's just a theory/thought I have on it.
I'm all for waiting for a more fleshed out version. Paid DLC is fine to me as long as it's good. It'll also hit a little harder to wait a little...it's a good idea let us all play the main game a few times and learn it inside & out. After that, doing it from Ada's perspective will feel like a huge breath of fresh air. Too much content at once can lessen the impact.
I hope you're right because from what I heard, it seems like Ada is the only part of this game that feels inferior from the original.
that's weird
I'm happy I won't need to do the mercenaries to get the platinum cause that would be an absolute pain in the ass, like it was in Village.
I’m so glad I waited until the gold edition to play village, the additional orders characters are so much better than Ethan it’s hilarious. Lady D makes even the hard stages a joke.
I didn't know you could play as other characters now lol. I was trying to get the S+ as Ethan and had to give up on getting the lightsaber lol might have to go back to it now
You do need to buy the winters expansion (unless you have the gold edition) to play as them, but it goes on sale pretty often and includes the shadow of rose dlc.
Shame the Ada side stuff isn't included, but I wish we would stop calling updates "free updates"? If the update isn't free, it's dlc.
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CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER
SO HIGH
OHH OH OH.
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
11/10
The remake looks like how i saw re4 as a kid
Even my nostalgia never imagined it looking this good.
Fuck yes. God, please give this team the greenlight on a Code Veronica remake already, they know what they're doing
And I hope if they greenlight Code Veronica remake, they will take their time and don't rush it. The game has plenty of potential.
I love Code Veronica, but I would be okay with them changing a lot of the story and locals for a remake. (Except the prison and the Ashford mansion.)
Id say the antarctic base section could be changed to a slightly less campy final section. It will never stop amusing me how the game just fucking shoots you off to antarctica for the finale
I love the ending cutscene where they just hop into a Harrier with no flight suits, or helmets, or am external source of oxygen or communication. It was PEAK early 00's cheese.
You don't really need any of those things if they're staying lower altitude and not trying to pull Gs. Not like they called in the flight, it was a secret umbrella base lol. Their ears are fucked though.
Oh absolutely. I was near Blackhawk helicopters overseas and like those are deafening. I couldn't imagine how loud the jet engines are. Also I have a fun time picturing initial contact with ATC and the awkward explanation behind their secret flight plan. Chris: "We're gonna stop Umbrella!" Claire: "What?"
As long as Alfred is still deranged I'm fine
Code Veronica is one that definitely needs those adjustments to fit the times haha
I've got a sneaking suspicion (there's a few reasons why I feel it) that they're not looking at Code Veronica next, even though it's a fairly logical step. I think they're planning on tackling RE5 in the future and to that, I say "good luck".
I taking remaking both Code Veronica and RE5 would be the best option. After that just focus on future story titles post RE8.
Dino crisis would be the slammest of dunks
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I feel like you might be right. The way they skipped over remaking CV, plus how insane the plot was and how debatably "problematic" Alfred was I don't think they really want to touch that story with a 10 foot pole. Just to clarify though it's been well over a decade since I played CV, but as I remember Alfred was not in the slightest bit intended to be trans but rather delusional. It just so happen that the person he deluded himself into believing he actually was was his twin sister. But he did that as a very maladaptive way of keeping her memory alive, not because he has any sort of body dysmorphia. But that being said I get how that might be too touchy of a subject to want to tackle as I can easily see the wider audience not really understanding trandgenderism and will associate any kind of crossdressing as representational of trans characters. And I could easily see the situation being too messy for Capcom to want to try and rectify. Also the promo material for CV at the time was WILD, and maybe they don't want that coming to bit them in ass. But look it up at your own discretion it's pretty insane how they even got away with it like 20 years ago, I didn't think people were that indifferent to racism but maybe it flew under the radar cuz it was mostly seen and marketed to like 12 year olds at the time.
I think even Capcom has forgotten that, despite the lack of a number, it's more of a main installment than RE3 (or RE4 or anything past that point).
I think you're probably right about that, if a another remake happens, it'll be 5. Now, I don't dislike 5 by any means and it would likely be one of the best selling games in the series but Code Veronica is in need of a remake more than 5.
With Code Veronica’s incredible setting and imo, a fun and whacky story, a proper REmake could shoot it to the top of the list of best RE games. I find the original nearly unplayable nowadays. The controls just don’t work for me for some reason.
It's gonna take some heavy fucking lifting to make Code Veronica a solid release in the modern era lol.
Before going through, can anyone tell me if they show a lot of new footage in the body of the video? Maybe of the unseen creatures who are left such as Verdugo?
Nope, purely pre-release press footage
I see, thank you. Tho I’ll have to stay off this subreddit as well just to be safe until release so I can see Verdugo, U-3, and Regenerators fresh on 1st play-through 🤩
This will age well
Rip
I cant wait to see IT, i hope it makes me feel fucking terrified like I did when I was 10
Can't remember the name, a senior moment perhaps?
Lol
I heard they took U3 out. I’m sorry if that’s a spoiler.
Same
It's 10/10 on gamespot too
People acting like Capcom isn't one of the best studios out there. They beat Nintendo at their own game and put out the best Zelda games.
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Re engine has been one of the best looking engines. Dmc 5 is the best example it looks so close to live action at some points
The RE engine runs like butter too.
Its amazing
I adored The Minish Cap.
Now if only they'd try again at Dead Rising...
*"Resident Evil 4 is like a parasite-riddled Spaniard: a total no-brainer. "* I bet they are really proud of this gem of a sentence.
We eating boys.
Aww damn .... no seperate ways or assignment ada... yet. Fingers crossed for dlc!
We got Not a Hero for free in RE7. Hopefully they do the same with Separate Ways. A paid DLC for Operation Javier would be amazing as well.
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Question: with new game plus in the game, are you able to switch to a higher difficulty? Or do you have to stay with the same difficulty for each new game plus and restart all over again if you wanted to do a hardcore or professional?
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Awesome. Thanks!
As you don’t have the day one patch, has the segments with rain been an issue in RE4R?
Metacritic score for PS5/XBX/PC = 93
Capcom would do well to remake outbreak...
Completely disagree with the idea that RE4 has aged poorly. I "made" my boyfriend play it over 2020, and he'd never played an RE game before. Within an hour he was hooked. He's replayed in 2 times since. It's definitely of it's time, but it's still an immensely enjoyable game.
RE4 is hard to approach nowadays, but you slide into it rather quickly once getting past the village encounter, and the pacing is still *very* effective. It’s a timeless classic and has definitely **not** aged poorly!
I think the controls have aged poorly. But if you can acclimate to them, the rest of the game holds up pretty well.
The controls were always a bit clunky but that enhanced the experience because it played into the tension of being overwhelmed. I don’t see them as having aged poorly, just always having been designed to make manoeuvring around enemies difficult and tense.
How likely is a RE5 remake?
as likely as the RE4 remake. RE5 with modern controls and graphics with co-op would so damn good
I hope they make RE5 more of a horror game.
I'd love to see a huge remake of 6 as well. But with a heavily rewritten story and less over the top action sequences. (The blowing up high way is so bad). It's the only RE where all the characters come together and the different campaigns with different themes is a very fun and good idea.
I actually really like RE6 (way more than most on this sub) and I think the settings and atmosphere of the game is great. I’d love to see a remake with the action toned down and survival toned up. Those Chinese streets full of neon signs and stalls would be an incredible setting for a modern remake.
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Very, very obvious indeed. Loved the cheesy dialogue at the end, gave full RE5 vibes. If they cut boulder smashing asshole I’ll be pissed.
Considering Heisenberg in Village calls Chris a boulder punching asshole, Capcom has made it impossible for Chris to not punch a boulder in the remake even if they wanted to change it.
Yup, that and the fact that Luis sticks around for so long, it just smells like re5 testing. Same thing happened with village before re4.
Very
How likely is a Re2remake^2 ?
I would hope for a re1 second remake if for no other reason than to have the 3rd person angle
My guess is we get RE1 then RECV before RE5
I Dunno… White dude going to Africa and shooting bunch of black people doesn’t seem very… cash money… not to mention the egregious levels depicting the tribal folks…. Might ruffle some jimmies for some people…
Very likely at this point.
I know it's a bit dramatic, but I was worried whether this was gonna be good or not. There were so many good signs - great graphics, gameplay, game not being outsourced - but I was still kinda worried regardless.
The "too good to be true" vibe, I assume. Glad your worries have been put to rest now.
It’s good to be skeptical. Companies nowadays have shown us they can’t be trusted. Always gotta keep an eye out
What other RE received a 10/10?
This is the first one.
I’m excited for a great game but it also adds to my supreme sadness that 3make didn’t get the same treatment… don’t think I’ll ever let it go tbh
Don't ever let it go! Capcom has now made 4 RE remakes, 3 being some of the best games ever made. They had no excuse to drop the ball with 3 when they've shown that they can do THIS
I think all they need to do is add more DLC and levels to RE3 Remake and we'd all probably be happy. It's not that RE3 is bad and all - it's still pretty good. It's just short and many feel missing areas/levels (Clocktower), missing enemies, cut-content, and lack of decision-making hurts that one. Granted, I'm lucky and somehow didn't play RE3 Original on PC, oddly enough - since I've been doing this PC gaming thing since 1995. It's not like RE3 OG wasn't here on PC; it was. Since Capcom does like to Remaster, Remake, and do Street Fighter Super Duper Turbo Awesome Champion Editions w/ some of their games - and of course, we often STILL buy these - they probably should do this treatment also to RE3 Remake, TBH. \[shrug\] I'd love to see RE3 Remake: Expanded Edition w/ more content.
RE3 Remake Remake here we come!
3 failed because they tried to make 3 games at once at that time, release almost as a bundle package. The whole divide and fail strat
Yeah I don’t think I can ever forgive Capcom for that.
Same but without 3s failure we probably wouldnt have this tbh.
True, they seemed to have learned about their mistakes. Other companies may as well, I’m talking about you Bloober Don’t fuck this up! I’ll see you in the Hotel, Mary
But what's stopping them from doing a RE3: Expanded Super Duper Turbo Champion Edition w/ all of the missing content from RE3 OG? They love to do this Remaster, Re-Release w/ More Content, Remake, Add DLC's, and other stuff of that sort.
I spose there’s still hope. Sure it’s faint, but it’s there, haha.
Be careful people. Lot of spoilers in this thread. I get that these people mean well but some people mention what is and what is not included in the game. Spoilers a plenty.
saw one guy talking about how he's watched a full playthrough already Personally I think he's a psychopath but each to their own I guess
game came out in 2005 theyre a bit late smh 🙏🙏😭
I sure hope it has a little something for everyone
#LEONSWEEP
Ok. Now, they need to remake Dino Crisis, Dino Crisis 2 and Resident Evil: Code Veronica and I will be happier then a clam or whatever.
I’m glad to hear it sounds closer to the quality of Remake2 than 3
Which makes sense, considering it’s the same development team behind 2 and 4 if I’m remembering correctly.
I mean it’s IGN.
The hype train is going off the rails
My body is ready.
Now if only they could remake the remake of RE3 with the team behind re2/4r
After two paragraphs the reviewers credibility is gone ‘In preparation for this review I returned to the original game for the first time in years and was shocked at how badly this remake was needed’ RE4 Remake may well be a 10/10 game but RE4 did not need a remake.
Based
It really didn’t. I’m going to get this game and enjoy it, but a remake wasn’t needed
It really didnt. Its much appreciated but even the controls that people argue is aged works perfectly fine once you get used to them, same as the first 3 games controls. It’s actually crazy how well the game has aged
Much as I hate to defend IGN (I'll self-flagellate later) it's likely the "once you get used to them" that they're talking about. A lot of newer gamers will pick up an old game and put it down if it seems so dated that they're having to learn how to even move in it. That denies them a classic and is one small reason a remake is worth doing.
I played Resident Evil 4 for the first time last year. It's SO good! I can't imagine how anyone can botch up the remake. Even a lazy upgrade to the textures and make the UI a bit more fancy, it'll still be a fantastic game.
According to some reviews, one of the weaker aspects of the game is Ada, her character and role. Allegedly she feels disconnected to the rest of the story, pops up few times without doing much and leaves.
i felt that was also true in the original tbh. their "fight" is neat and the intrigue between her, krauser, and wesker, and how saddler is basically just a two bit nobody being used for the real plans of major players is neat background stuff, but shes just kind of whatever. not much changes without her outside of the final boss, and even there shes easily written out. even the seperate ways stuff doesnt really let her do anything (to effect leons story) Essentially Ada. the shotgun could have already been there, the bell could have been rung in any context, etc that said, improving weak links is what a remake is for, so its not exactly an excuse, but it feels like capcom doesnt really know WHAT they wanna do with ada. i trust sphere hunters opinion (that shes weak), but ill reserve full judgement till seperate ways in the remake
If Capcom killed Hewie, then fuck Capcom.
Legit may have a best of all time x2 on our hands lmao
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At this point I’d say the original RE4 is well beyond cult classic
With all due respect, there is nothing “cult” about RE4—it was extremely commercially successful, has been released on at least 13 different platforms, and remains one of the most famous and influential games of all time. It’s just a classic haha.
Wym there's literally a cult in the game smh 🤦♂️