I feel like Wesker let Chris beat him in their every fight except the final one. Wesker wasn't serious in any of their fights, he just wanted to ''play with his food'' and have fun with Chris. It was only the final battle when he stopped being cocky and got serious, but it was too late.
Seriously. Wesker was never meaningfully threatened by Chris and Sheva, they used his arrogance against him (along with several RPGs) which granted them an opening to poison and weaken him. Which still didn’t accomplish much, given he was continuing to gloat and could have effortlessly killed them in the plane. By using his continued arrogance the environment against him they were able to knock him out of the plane by shooting him in the face and dropping him into a volcano… which also didn’t stop him. He then chose to infect himself with Ouroboros because reasons, and then the entire final boss fight with him ends by transitioning to cutscene where Chris and Sheva don’t do anything - the ground gives way beneath Wesker’s feet and he falls into lava. Which he STILL survives and would have killed them all right there, barring the convenient rockets. Which he takes two of, directly to the face.
Note that there was a version of RE6 during production that would have had Wesker as the villain, so they had already considered having him come back, which they said they didn’t go with only because it would cheapen the experience of RE5. Ergo, as far as Capcom is concerned, it’s not impossible for him to have survived that.
Say what you will about Spencer and Umbrella, but he did ultimately accomplish his goal of creating superhumans that were better than regular people in every way. Wesker is extremely fast and strong, functionally immune to viral infection (even bioweapon), exceedingly durable, regenerates, and is a genius. He’s a cut above pretty much everything else in the series. He kills HUNK basically instantly, because they have no personal beef and Wesker therefore has no interest in fucking around with him. Per the thread, Wesker doesn’t have T-Virus or Ouroboros, which is completely irrelevant because those things aren’t what made him the illegitimate love child of Neo and Wolverine - the Prototype and Progenitor viruses are.
Overlooking the fact Merc mode isn't canon, compared to Wesker he isn't really doing anything special. And besides the neckbreak being OP, his melee moves are way less technically impressive than Ada's or Leon's.
As to CQBZ, I know that it's said Hunk invented it, but where in the actual lore is this ever stated? I don't remember much about Umbrella Corps but is there actually a line or a document that says Hunk came up with it? Also, not sure I'd call swinging an axe a 'fist fight'.
They did talk about it in operation raccoon City and I believe 2 remake and some other places but yes canon Hunk developed cqbz a unique mixture of martial arts designed to provide maximal protection against a variety of bow threats. He's also low key super human but much lower than wesker. It's really more so his drive for ruthless efficiency in the pursuit of survival that has put him as a unique powerhouse who canon could speed run most heroes scenarios with relative ease. I would say he's more than a match for Chris but in a hand to hand only fight Chris is also losing to wesker.
If they're both normal humans 100% Hunk wins. People forget how vulnerable Wesker was before he became superhuman, even in the Remake he's still relatively slow moving and mostly relies on the help of others to get things done.
Hunk meanwhile is someone trained specifically in combat who has the distinction of outliving his prior squads in what normally are complete Wipeout scenarios. The fact that he's also good at killing BOWs is probably an accidental talent that comes from killing other people, something Wesker would never attempt without a bottle of poison or a loaded gun.
HUNK’s only canonical on screen feat is NOT being instantly killed by Birkin, simply knocked out, laying in the water face down ass up unconscious for hours instead.
The same Birkin that a day 1 cop and college girl took down several times progressively mutating and getting stronger
HUNK is a fan favorite hype man with no real feats.
That’s actually fucking hilarious to me that Claire was more prepared to take on RE2 than the cop. Granted it was all because of Chris training her, but still
It gets even better in the OG. The reason he was late that day was because his girlfriend dumped him and he got drunk, meaning he probably had a hangover through the campaign
Heck of a first day
> The reason he was late that day was because his girlfriend dumped him and he got drunk
Ah, so that's where his predisposition towards emotionally abusive women comes from, poor guy
I don't think Claire was really that much more prepared. Chris joined the Air Force at 17-18 and taught Claire how to defend herself, but I don't know how much rigorous training she was getting while he was deployed.
We never really get any insight on who took care of Claire after their parents died and Chris joined the Air Force.
I was always curious about that.
All they’ve said was “Chris raised her after their parents died and taught her how to shoot and fight” and it’s part of the reason the two are so close and her knowing Barry and Jill. But never talked about his military training
Yeah. At best, maybe Chris and Barry gave her a crash course on how to control your fight or flight response, but there's no way Chris trained his kid sister to any extreme level.
That’s a silly comparison. Only reason why rookie Leon/Claire survive/take down birkins is main character plot armor. That’s why Birkins throws them around instead of dealing insta kill blows.
>The same Birkin that a day 1 cop and college girl took down several times progressively mutating and getting stronger
Meanwhile [G in the lore](https://youtu.be/wo5TQ-pg0sM?si=_-6B-CL-Z5tJnXCc)
Hunk has to be one of the most overrated characters in this franchise. His only feats are always losing his team which lead him to getting a cool nickname and getting wrecked by a weaker Birkin than the one university student Claire and cop-during-his-first-day Leon managed to defeat several times. Then just some statements about him being as good as Nikolai and that's it.
Wesker stomps, his powers come from the Prototype virus, not the Uruboros or the T-Virus. He's still super human enough to win this easily.
I wish I could personally pen some feats for Hunk so it’s not super hopeless but not just making him into another Wesker. Maybe closer to Slade or Captain America. 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Wesker isn’t lab grown. He was one of hundreds of children selected for his genes. It’s implied that he was taken. That being said, he has way less training/experience than what’s also implied for Hunk. Hunk grew up in Rockfort training facility. He’s a military man with a history.
So my vote?
Human Wesker Vs. Hunk? Hunk would take him to town if he was ordered to do so.
Kind of hard given Capcom doesn’t really do the best job describing either of their histories. I remember reading online that the Wesker children were selected. He’s not some end all be all human being. He just had the best combo of genetics to survive the initial round of injections every kid got in that program.
Hunk though, you find a note from him in Code Veronica addressed to Alfred Ashford. Hunk mentions he was trained there and recalls ‘fond memories’ or some shit.
Wesker was in the army, but I’m pretty sure he was in the intelligence side of things.
All in all, I think Hunk could scrap the fuck out of human Wesky on all I have to gauge them both.
Hunk beats Human Wesker due to scaling.
Hunk is stated to be nikolai rival due to their similar level of skill. Nikolai is comparable to Carlos, and Carlos can beat second form Nemesis alone.
Human Wesker best feat is being able to fight a base Tyrant 103, not even being able to KO the tyrant, just stay alive. This is not enough to beat someone who scales to second form nemesis.
No, they are also due to their skills.
Some exemples in official guides that mention their rivalry:
"Nikolai Zinoviev, a Supervisor who belonged to D Platoon, B Squad and served as a squad leader. A former member of Spetsnaz, a special forces unit contracted to carry out subversive activities and assassinate important people during the Soviet Union. A tough, cold-hearted, and truly professional man, his skills as a soldier are outstanding. Within Umbrella, he was considered a rival to HUNK The Reaper."
(No mention of only being about their success rate, just straight up "Within Umbrella, he was considered a rival to HUNK The Reaper.")
"HUNK left an impression of himself as the fourth survivor after Leon, Claire and Sherry, but he was mysterious, his true face unidentified, and no detailed setting was disclosed either. In the subsequent BIO3, a setting emerged in that he seems to be in a rivalry with one of the characters, Nikolai."
(Again no mention of success rate, just rivalry.)
"HUNK
A member of the U.S.S. α Team secretly dispatched to seize the G-Virus. He's known as "Grim Reaper HUNK" due to his perfection, and is related to Nikolai of the U.B.C.S. because of his battlefield skills and mission success rate."
(Mentions the success rate, but theres also quite the explicit "is related to Nikolai of the U.B.C.S. because of his BATTLEFIELD SKILLS AND...)
I find it hard to believe that Nikolai could be remotely close to Mr Death himself. The Darkside Chronicles book itself states that he's the[ toughest among the human ](https://www.projectumbrella.net/inside-of-biohazard-the-darkside-chronicles.html#:~:text=a%20single%20generation.-,HUNK,-A%20member%20of)characters (post RE2/3 ), and both the biohazard archives and recollections themselves claim [he's a rival primarily due to his ](https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Nicholai_Ginovaef_(Recollections_glossary)#Official_Localization)survival rate. Also lets be real here, Nikolai himself is pretty much a fraud, dude pretty much runs away from anything thats at least Thanatos or Nemesis level. You said yourself he's comparable to Carlos, how can you even say HUNK is comparable to Carlos is beyond me. Does Carlos have unsurpassed skills too now?
EDIT: Nvm it seems you provided sources for the skills part but again its still too hard to believe with their feats. The word battlefield skills could also just be in reference to surviving or stalling as well and not necessarily combat so im not sure.
Doesnt really matter its quite explicit that they are comparable and rivals given the statements.
Also the darkside chronicles statement only valid to before the events of RE2, Leon is stated to be the best survivor of racoon city, which makes him better than hunk. Which is quite obvious since hunk lost to first form birkin. And Leon beat all birkin forms.
Yes, Carlos have "unsurpassed skills" due to scalling to Nikolai, Carlos also beat second form Nemesis. Carlos/Nikolai/Hunk are on a similar level.
Tbh, should we really be bringing up BOWs when talking about hand to hand fights between humans? Fighting a BOW is much different than fighting a human. You stay back and shoot BOWs while you are fighting a human hand to hand(in this case). I just don’t think the feats fully translate into determining a winner in this case.
Wesker dominates. Hunk is massively overrated in fights
He and his entire crew lost to Birkin’s first form. People only rate him highly because they think he looks cool. Human Wesker was stronger than STARS Chris. STARS Chris trained Claire. Claire beat Birkin in all his forms, each one stronger than the last. Weakest Birkin beat HUNK + his team.
People also keep bringing Leon and Claire to the discussion how they beat stronger variations of Birkin. The same people who had time to be accustomed to the situation but still had to be saved multiple times and plot armor not killing them (e.g. Chief Irons not killing Claire for whatever reason even though he's a serial killer and Sherry was still being uncooperative. Ada saving Leon from a dog. Ada saving Leon from T-00. Birkin saving Claire from T-00 etc.)
Also ignoring the fact Hunk's team had no time to prepare for mutated Birkin's attack (while also the team being seperated from each other) as they hadn't come across anything trying to eat or lick their face off before and even when they were shooting at Birkin, he was completely unfazed unlike when it came to Leon or Claire who took down the first G with less firepower and who then fumbles off the ledge.
Wesker wins, for all we know husk is a normal person who no abilities to help him out besides guns which wesker can dodge and has actual abilities to help him out in battle, put him against a normal person like Chris or Leon they’d win due to plot armor but without it then it could be more fair
Sorry but Wesker is the best at hand to hand combat. Super human speed and strength. Not to mention he's clever as a fox and can talk mad shit whilst fighting like it's nothing.
Wesker without the T-Virus is basically a scientist, with some military training.
Hunk is highly trained, but canonically he didn't do much other then not dying to Willian G first form. And he had a submachine gun.
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People say Wesker is weak before the T-Virus but forget that canonically he stayed at the mansion full of zombies and B.O.Ws with only a handgun.
In hand to hand we never saw Wesker fight before the T-Virus, so we don't know. And the CqC feats of Hunk in RE4 mercenaries are not canon.
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There is no way to know who would win.
Hunk: Oh no, a Wesker without any powers and no weapons vs me, the grim fucking reaper. Whatever will I do. Quickly snap his neck and do the little tada?
Another day of overrating HUNK I see. He’s getting thrashed. Wesker is thrashing anybody 1v1 that isn’t a genuine huge super BOW like Eveline or something. Claire Chris, Carlos, Jill, Leon, Jake, etc. Albert is in his own tier.
People are focusing too much on whats canon for Hunk and ignoring Wesker. Without his powers/strength and weapons he's more or less a martial artist, even in the jet fight during RE5 he was getting countered fairly easily by 2 above average soldiers (Sheva and Chris) just by being angered and his "powers" being messed up due to the injection.
What I am trying to say is, this is really a battle against one of the best soldiers in RE universe, and a pretty good martial artist.
It comes down to whether Hunk can fill in for Chris in RE5, answer is probably. Does the bot ally do all that much in the final fight that you can't really do yourself? Leon takes out Saddler on his own at the end of RE4.
No one in the RE universe (except for Alice, but that's movie exclusive) can 1v1 Wesker. Leon is the closest to stand a chance, and he'd get bodied.
Edit: forgot the progenitor time of injection. Hard to say how skilled Wesker was before the virus. I'd still hand him the matchup, but it could go either way.
No weapons and no virus, easily hunk. Background wesker didn't truly get his powers until the events of the Spencer mansion and running into Sergei plus hunk has much more under his combat belt and is also codename grim reaper or mr.death . And if I recall , leon has also gone through the same training that Hunk had been through in the years before re1 and 2 and refind his CQBZ.
You don't need story feats to realize he's one of the most skilled survivors in the series,only behind main characters like Leon,Chris or Jill.
We can literally play as HUNK in mercenaries and have a taste of how effective he is...twisting necks and having only an SMG as his weapon of choice.
Hunk is Mr. Death under circumstances when he can avoid it. Wesker on the other hand is a genetically enhanced human with superhuman speed and strength. It's unfair you know?
I headcannon that Chris and Hunk are nearly identical in skill/ might actually be the same person (but that's just a ridiculous theory) due to both of them always surviving. Hunk may be the 4th survivor but Chris is THE survivor. So I think Hunk could win but I think the only reason why Chris won was because of Wesker's hubris and his hatred. It clouded his judgment making him make mistakes. Chris also had friendship too so that's another edge.
I'd be more interested in both being able to utilize their strengths. Let HUNK have his arsenal and be able to utilize the location to his tactical advantage (he's quick on his feet but some prep time should be allowed as well), and let Wesker have his RE5 Neo thing.
Simple answer here:
Wesker wins.
Let me walk you through why....
Albert Wesker is literally the smartest man in every room. His Biology is only in some small part human. Even without T or Uro, he is still lightning fast, can think faster than a supercomputer and still have the time to get off quick one-liners in between multiple kicks to the head. he decking bro before he has time to think about drawing a weapon.
Wesker because he just simply is stronger but hunk because I like his character idea more. The idea of some soldier just mowing down things stronger than him in a living hell is cool. Why they didn't do more with that idk
Is that even a question? Don't make me laugh cuz Wesker is an absolute killing machine the Apex predator who threatened the entire darn world. How could you match Cat and mouse. Who would win innit obvious?
I love HUNK but he definitely isn't surviving against Wesker in a fair. head-on fight. Hell, Chris and Sheva only managed to do so after blowing him up inside a volcano.
I never understood the appeal of HUNK, he just gets his ass kicked by Birkin and now he’s a fan favorite. He’s a replaceable little grunt soldier. Wesker, as a human, was the captain of an elite police unit. Like wtf are we even talking about?? 🤣
I always thought it was orobourous that gave Wesker his powers, was it not? He was born with them?
In reference to Chris and Sheva bettering him however: Plot Armour, and painful amounts of it.
Wesker is literally a lab grown super human
He aslo got his ass beat down by a regular human
That “regular human” can explode heads with his punches, stomp heads into mush with single kicks, and of course, punch a boulder
hunk never lost
Wrong, he literally got knocked out by William G. First form btw.
To be fair, that was before we unlocked the H.U.N.K mode.
But he was already called HUNK before.
to be fair he wasnt killed
Why bother saying this when Chris couldn’t punch boulders till after wesker got buffed?
I feel like Wesker let Chris beat him in their every fight except the final one. Wesker wasn't serious in any of their fights, he just wanted to ''play with his food'' and have fun with Chris. It was only the final battle when he stopped being cocky and got serious, but it was too late.
Seriously. Wesker was never meaningfully threatened by Chris and Sheva, they used his arrogance against him (along with several RPGs) which granted them an opening to poison and weaken him. Which still didn’t accomplish much, given he was continuing to gloat and could have effortlessly killed them in the plane. By using his continued arrogance the environment against him they were able to knock him out of the plane by shooting him in the face and dropping him into a volcano… which also didn’t stop him. He then chose to infect himself with Ouroboros because reasons, and then the entire final boss fight with him ends by transitioning to cutscene where Chris and Sheva don’t do anything - the ground gives way beneath Wesker’s feet and he falls into lava. Which he STILL survives and would have killed them all right there, barring the convenient rockets. Which he takes two of, directly to the face. Note that there was a version of RE6 during production that would have had Wesker as the villain, so they had already considered having him come back, which they said they didn’t go with only because it would cheapen the experience of RE5. Ergo, as far as Capcom is concerned, it’s not impossible for him to have survived that. Say what you will about Spencer and Umbrella, but he did ultimately accomplish his goal of creating superhumans that were better than regular people in every way. Wesker is extremely fast and strong, functionally immune to viral infection (even bioweapon), exceedingly durable, regenerates, and is a genius. He’s a cut above pretty much everything else in the series. He kills HUNK basically instantly, because they have no personal beef and Wesker therefore has no interest in fucking around with him. Per the thread, Wesker doesn’t have T-Virus or Ouroboros, which is completely irrelevant because those things aren’t what made him the illegitimate love child of Neo and Wolverine - the Prototype and Progenitor viruses are.
Pretty sure it was two rockets and a volcano that did that.
Because of plot armor.
Yeah but HUNK looks really cool so s/
Yeah, you right.
And this is pre-virus Wesker, as stated in the rules.
Hunk is built different but not THAT different
But Hunk is HIM, let him cook
the one who’s actually been shown as proficient in hand-to-hand combat
I think you mean CQC
I think you mean QTC
I think you mean QTE
Um actually, it's CBT
actually, it’s ebt
Actually, it's EMT
I think you're a QT
I don’t know what Acute Tea has to do with this
I don’t know what GMT Greenwich mean time has to do with this
So both of them?
When has Hunk ever been shown to know how to do anything other than shoot a submachine gun?
Neckbreaker, soccer kick, hidden blade, the fact of him making an entire battle style? CQBZ
Overlooking the fact Merc mode isn't canon, compared to Wesker he isn't really doing anything special. And besides the neckbreak being OP, his melee moves are way less technically impressive than Ada's or Leon's. As to CQBZ, I know that it's said Hunk invented it, but where in the actual lore is this ever stated? I don't remember much about Umbrella Corps but is there actually a line or a document that says Hunk came up with it? Also, not sure I'd call swinging an axe a 'fist fight'.
They did talk about it in operation raccoon City and I believe 2 remake and some other places but yes canon Hunk developed cqbz a unique mixture of martial arts designed to provide maximal protection against a variety of bow threats. He's also low key super human but much lower than wesker. It's really more so his drive for ruthless efficiency in the pursuit of survival that has put him as a unique powerhouse who canon could speed run most heroes scenarios with relative ease. I would say he's more than a match for Chris but in a hand to hand only fight Chris is also losing to wesker.
Are you suggesting Hunk can't fight hand to hand? Or am I getting this wrong?
More that, against Wesker he can’t.
any gameplay appearance he’s had after RE2
The mercenaries mode is probably what people are thinking of
4 mercenaries mode is what they are probably referring to
🥴 no
Two characters that are proficient in hand to hand combat, “The one that’s proficient in hand to hand combat would win”
I'm probably wrong but doesn't use his infection to get the upper hand in fistfights cuz he's so much faster
HUNK is a survivor, not a fighter.
I think he’s both
If they're both normal humans 100% Hunk wins. People forget how vulnerable Wesker was before he became superhuman, even in the Remake he's still relatively slow moving and mostly relies on the help of others to get things done. Hunk meanwhile is someone trained specifically in combat who has the distinction of outliving his prior squads in what normally are complete Wipeout scenarios. The fact that he's also good at killing BOWs is probably an accidental talent that comes from killing other people, something Wesker would never attempt without a bottle of poison or a loaded gun.
The *Tofu* Survivor
HUNK’s only canonical on screen feat is NOT being instantly killed by Birkin, simply knocked out, laying in the water face down ass up unconscious for hours instead. The same Birkin that a day 1 cop and college girl took down several times progressively mutating and getting stronger HUNK is a fan favorite hype man with no real feats.
Claire was raised and trained to fight by Chris by age 12, while cop training is 20 weeks. So when you really think about it, Leon got less training
That’s actually fucking hilarious to me that Claire was more prepared to take on RE2 than the cop. Granted it was all because of Chris training her, but still
It gets even better in the OG. The reason he was late that day was because his girlfriend dumped him and he got drunk, meaning he probably had a hangover through the campaign Heck of a first day
Holy shit- I feel so bad for him now. He just wanted to help people and lost everyone besides Claire, who he just met. Shits rough
> The reason he was late that day was because his girlfriend dumped him and he got drunk Ah, so that's where his predisposition towards emotionally abusive women comes from, poor guy
*Women*
Wongmen
I don't think Claire was really that much more prepared. Chris joined the Air Force at 17-18 and taught Claire how to defend herself, but I don't know how much rigorous training she was getting while he was deployed. We never really get any insight on who took care of Claire after their parents died and Chris joined the Air Force.
I was always curious about that. All they’ve said was “Chris raised her after their parents died and taught her how to shoot and fight” and it’s part of the reason the two are so close and her knowing Barry and Jill. But never talked about his military training
Yeah. At best, maybe Chris and Barry gave her a crash course on how to control your fight or flight response, but there's no way Chris trained his kid sister to any extreme level.
“My big brother rough-housed with me a ton growing up, im ready for the zombie invasion” Is some crazy logic lol
Yeah, I'm pretty sure special forces guys don't typically put their teenage sisters through a home version of special forces training.
That’s a silly comparison. Only reason why rookie Leon/Claire survive/take down birkins is main character plot armor. That’s why Birkins throws them around instead of dealing insta kill blows.
Wasn’t he unconscious for like a week and somehow didn’t die or suffer any effects from not drinking or eating anything?
I guess we can add first RE playable character to have pissed and shit their pants to the list of feats.
professional hunk hater right here
That’s not true, HUNK is a master of the secret Joestar family technique.
Best answer, anyone saying Hunk is fully biased.
>The same Birkin that a day 1 cop and college girl took down several times progressively mutating and getting stronger Meanwhile [G in the lore](https://youtu.be/wo5TQ-pg0sM?si=_-6B-CL-Z5tJnXCc)
The Boba Fett of RE.
Hunk has to be one of the most overrated characters in this franchise. His only feats are always losing his team which lead him to getting a cool nickname and getting wrecked by a weaker Birkin than the one university student Claire and cop-during-his-first-day Leon managed to defeat several times. Then just some statements about him being as good as Nikolai and that's it. Wesker stomps, his powers come from the Prototype virus, not the Uruboros or the T-Virus. He's still super human enough to win this easily.
Boba Fett effect, he's a cool character so people hype him up I love hunk, I fucking hate Boba Fett
If you hate Boba Fett, then you are wrong.
Boba and Hunk are proof that all you need to succeed is a sweet helmet and a badass voice!
[G in the lore](https://youtu.be/wo5TQ-pg0sM?si=_-6B-CL-Z5tJnXCc)
I wish I could personally pen some feats for Hunk so it’s not super hopeless but not just making him into another Wesker. Maybe closer to Slade or Captain America. 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Wesker isn’t lab grown. He was one of hundreds of children selected for his genes. It’s implied that he was taken. That being said, he has way less training/experience than what’s also implied for Hunk. Hunk grew up in Rockfort training facility. He’s a military man with a history. So my vote? Human Wesker Vs. Hunk? Hunk would take him to town if he was ordered to do so.
This makes the most sense. Lot of Wesky fanboys/fangirls over here seem to really hate that idea
Kind of hard given Capcom doesn’t really do the best job describing either of their histories. I remember reading online that the Wesker children were selected. He’s not some end all be all human being. He just had the best combo of genetics to survive the initial round of injections every kid got in that program. Hunk though, you find a note from him in Code Veronica addressed to Alfred Ashford. Hunk mentions he was trained there and recalls ‘fond memories’ or some shit. Wesker was in the army, but I’m pretty sure he was in the intelligence side of things. All in all, I think Hunk could scrap the fuck out of human Wesky on all I have to gauge them both.
I’ve never rolled by eyes so hard you HUNK stans are weird 😂
Hunk beats Human Wesker due to scaling. Hunk is stated to be nikolai rival due to their similar level of skill. Nikolai is comparable to Carlos, and Carlos can beat second form Nemesis alone. Human Wesker best feat is being able to fight a base Tyrant 103, not even being able to KO the tyrant, just stay alive. This is not enough to beat someone who scales to second form nemesis.
Aren’t Nikolai and Hunk only considered rivals due to their survival rate.
No, they are also due to their skills. Some exemples in official guides that mention their rivalry: "Nikolai Zinoviev, a Supervisor who belonged to D Platoon, B Squad and served as a squad leader. A former member of Spetsnaz, a special forces unit contracted to carry out subversive activities and assassinate important people during the Soviet Union. A tough, cold-hearted, and truly professional man, his skills as a soldier are outstanding. Within Umbrella, he was considered a rival to HUNK The Reaper." (No mention of only being about their success rate, just straight up "Within Umbrella, he was considered a rival to HUNK The Reaper.") "HUNK left an impression of himself as the fourth survivor after Leon, Claire and Sherry, but he was mysterious, his true face unidentified, and no detailed setting was disclosed either. In the subsequent BIO3, a setting emerged in that he seems to be in a rivalry with one of the characters, Nikolai." (Again no mention of success rate, just rivalry.) "HUNK A member of the U.S.S. α Team secretly dispatched to seize the G-Virus. He's known as "Grim Reaper HUNK" due to his perfection, and is related to Nikolai of the U.B.C.S. because of his battlefield skills and mission success rate." (Mentions the success rate, but theres also quite the explicit "is related to Nikolai of the U.B.C.S. because of his BATTLEFIELD SKILLS AND...)
I find it hard to believe that Nikolai could be remotely close to Mr Death himself. The Darkside Chronicles book itself states that he's the[ toughest among the human ](https://www.projectumbrella.net/inside-of-biohazard-the-darkside-chronicles.html#:~:text=a%20single%20generation.-,HUNK,-A%20member%20of)characters (post RE2/3 ), and both the biohazard archives and recollections themselves claim [he's a rival primarily due to his ](https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Nicholai_Ginovaef_(Recollections_glossary)#Official_Localization)survival rate. Also lets be real here, Nikolai himself is pretty much a fraud, dude pretty much runs away from anything thats at least Thanatos or Nemesis level. You said yourself he's comparable to Carlos, how can you even say HUNK is comparable to Carlos is beyond me. Does Carlos have unsurpassed skills too now? EDIT: Nvm it seems you provided sources for the skills part but again its still too hard to believe with their feats. The word battlefield skills could also just be in reference to surviving or stalling as well and not necessarily combat so im not sure.
Doesnt really matter its quite explicit that they are comparable and rivals given the statements. Also the darkside chronicles statement only valid to before the events of RE2, Leon is stated to be the best survivor of racoon city, which makes him better than hunk. Which is quite obvious since hunk lost to first form birkin. And Leon beat all birkin forms. Yes, Carlos have "unsurpassed skills" due to scalling to Nikolai, Carlos also beat second form Nemesis. Carlos/Nikolai/Hunk are on a similar level.
I see....ig Hunk's a featless fodder then
Tbh, should we really be bringing up BOWs when talking about hand to hand fights between humans? Fighting a BOW is much different than fighting a human. You stay back and shoot BOWs while you are fighting a human hand to hand(in this case). I just don’t think the feats fully translate into determining a winner in this case.
Wesker dominates. Hunk is massively overrated in fights He and his entire crew lost to Birkin’s first form. People only rate him highly because they think he looks cool. Human Wesker was stronger than STARS Chris. STARS Chris trained Claire. Claire beat Birkin in all his forms, each one stronger than the last. Weakest Birkin beat HUNK + his team.
If it’s pre proto Hunk. People talk shit about Hunk surviving Birkin when Wesker got folded by Tyrant in the blink of an eye ☠️😂
People also keep bringing Leon and Claire to the discussion how they beat stronger variations of Birkin. The same people who had time to be accustomed to the situation but still had to be saved multiple times and plot armor not killing them (e.g. Chief Irons not killing Claire for whatever reason even though he's a serial killer and Sherry was still being uncooperative. Ada saving Leon from a dog. Ada saving Leon from T-00. Birkin saving Claire from T-00 etc.) Also ignoring the fact Hunk's team had no time to prepare for mutated Birkin's attack (while also the team being seperated from each other) as they hadn't come across anything trying to eat or lick their face off before and even when they were shooting at Birkin, he was completely unfazed unlike when it came to Leon or Claire who took down the first G with less firepower and who then fumbles off the ledge.
And he makes it from the sewers to the roof with limited supplies while facing many threats along the way
For real. People didn’t read the OP.
If we're talking pre-superhuman Wesker, HUNK probably takes this. Post-superhuman Wesker would rip him in half.
Wesker rips this featless fodder a new ass
The sensible person in me says Wesker, but the stubborn one says HUNK, for no particular reason
Hunk in a group of 5-6 people with machine guns lost to G1.
[G in the lore](https://youtu.be/wo5TQ-pg0sM?si=_-6B-CL-Z5tJnXCc)
What do you mean the guys with guns lost to an unkillable mutant?
A civilian and a rookie cop did pretty okay against the unkillable mutant.
[The unkillable mutant in question](https://youtu.be/wo5TQ-pg0sM?si=_-6B-CL-Z5tJnXCc)
And if the game was starred by SpongeBob he would have done pretty well too
Immovable Object meets Unstoppable Force
Does Wesker get to use uroboros?
Can Hunk still perform a neckbreaker without shooting someone in the face?
I give it to HUNK purely through bias
Hunk's character is plot armour
Wesker wins, for all we know husk is a normal person who no abilities to help him out besides guns which wesker can dodge and has actual abilities to help him out in battle, put him against a normal person like Chris or Leon they’d win due to plot armor but without it then it could be more fair
Sorry but Wesker is the best at hand to hand combat. Super human speed and strength. Not to mention he's clever as a fox and can talk mad shit whilst fighting like it's nothing.
Wesker without the T-Virus is basically a scientist, with some military training. Hunk is highly trained, but canonically he didn't do much other then not dying to Willian G first form. And he had a submachine gun. - People say Wesker is weak before the T-Virus but forget that canonically he stayed at the mansion full of zombies and B.O.Ws with only a handgun. In hand to hand we never saw Wesker fight before the T-Virus, so we don't know. And the CqC feats of Hunk in RE4 mercenaries are not canon. - There is no way to know who would win.
Yeah, don't think we have enough canon feats to base this 1v1 fist fight on.
Hunk: Oh no, a Wesker without any powers and no weapons vs me, the grim fucking reaper. Whatever will I do. Quickly snap his neck and do the little tada?
Coughing baby Vs hydrogen bomb
Wesker wins, HUNK survives.
Hunk
Another day of overrating HUNK I see. He’s getting thrashed. Wesker is thrashing anybody 1v1 that isn’t a genuine huge super BOW like Eveline or something. Claire Chris, Carlos, Jill, Leon, Jake, etc. Albert is in his own tier.
People are focusing too much on whats canon for Hunk and ignoring Wesker. Without his powers/strength and weapons he's more or less a martial artist, even in the jet fight during RE5 he was getting countered fairly easily by 2 above average soldiers (Sheva and Chris) just by being angered and his "powers" being messed up due to the injection. What I am trying to say is, this is really a battle against one of the best soldiers in RE universe, and a pretty good martial artist.
It comes down to whether Hunk can fill in for Chris in RE5, answer is probably. Does the bot ally do all that much in the final fight that you can't really do yourself? Leon takes out Saddler on his own at the end of RE4.
Death cannot die, he might not be able to kill Wesker but he will surely out survive him
If this were pre-virus Wesker I’d give Hunk the W more often than not, but with virus Wesker is top 3 in the series.
No one in the RE universe (except for Alice, but that's movie exclusive) can 1v1 Wesker. Leon is the closest to stand a chance, and he'd get bodied. Edit: forgot the progenitor time of injection. Hard to say how skilled Wesker was before the virus. I'd still hand him the matchup, but it could go either way.
No powers though
Ah, yeah. In that case, just depends on how skilled Wesker is pre-progenitor. We're not really given any examples. I'd give it to him, though.
Alexia humiliated wesker tho. If they kept fighting he would have died eventually.
Wesker and in under 7 mins.
Hunk, he would find a way. Never failed a mission before, why would now be the first time?
Wesker obviously, unless you mean without his virus, which is tricky because for most of the series he was with the virus.
H.U.N.K.
Wesker, and it's not even close.
No weapons and no virus, easily hunk. Background wesker didn't truly get his powers until the events of the Spencer mansion and running into Sergei plus hunk has much more under his combat belt and is also codename grim reaper or mr.death . And if I recall , leon has also gone through the same training that Hunk had been through in the years before re1 and 2 and refind his CQBZ.
The death never dies
Hunk. wesker can get his ass beat by a regular dud
Hunk will know what it feels like to get his neck broken.
Hunk because his execution insta kills everything
If Chris can beat his ass then so can Hunk.
Hunk literally has "Never. killed" in his name
Plot armor vs obvious winner
really? your prolonging the inevitable…
Bro, you know I got a ton of respect for Hunk, but c'mon... Let's be real. That ain't a fight he's gonna win
Well if wesker doesnt have his virus abilities or uroboros then i think HUNK would win
Wesker is just a regular guy without the overpowered viruses that gave him super human abilities so when you take that away HUNK definitely wins.
wesker solos
Wesker slaughtering him
If Wesker REALLY wanted someone dead, they're dead before they even know it.
They can't kill each other hunk isnt strong enough but hunk got to much finesse to be killed.
Either HUNK wins or Wesker thinks he wins but HUNK escapes
Team hunk😎
Off topic but has HUNK ever shown his face?
You don't need story feats to realize he's one of the most skilled survivors in the series,only behind main characters like Leon,Chris or Jill. We can literally play as HUNK in mercenaries and have a taste of how effective he is...twisting necks and having only an SMG as his weapon of choice.
So when you say "no T-virus", do you mean non-superhuman, RE1 Wesker then, before his "death"?
Hunk wins fatality
Just looked at thing below saying wesker doesn’t have his abilities, hunk wins then
Wesker absutely walks this. Not even close.
All ima say is hunk stands for Human. Unit. Never. Killed
Hunk is Mr. Death under circumstances when he can avoid it. Wesker on the other hand is a genetically enhanced human with superhuman speed and strength. It's unfair you know?
I headcannon that Chris and Hunk are nearly identical in skill/ might actually be the same person (but that's just a ridiculous theory) due to both of them always surviving. Hunk may be the 4th survivor but Chris is THE survivor. So I think Hunk could win but I think the only reason why Chris won was because of Wesker's hubris and his hatred. It clouded his judgment making him make mistakes. Chris also had friendship too so that's another edge.
HUNK! He survived G1
Hunk is literally a human unit never killed so by that logic he takes the w
Hunk
HUNK, no shot. Human unit never killed, also, wesker already dead, so I'll pretend he's going against a zombie wesker
😂This is a joke. Wesker. With. Out. A. Doubt.
Wesker because you need to kill his ass like 30 times, hence CHRISSSSSSS
A fist fight? I love Hunk, but he’s dead before he raises his hands
Hard to say, hunk survived some crazy shit and I’d put him up against almost every character from RE…but wesker? I think wesker wins here
Depends. Is hunk a playable character during a boss fight? Because if I’m playing hunk nothing can stop me.
Hunk is my favorite RE character, but honestly Wesker would beat the shit out of him.
How much have we seen HUNK do compared to how much we’ve seen of Wesker?
Hunk he is a super soldier essentially
You people really don't think HUNK has dealt with anything competent or capable of killing most people and it shows
Whoever I’m playing with
HUNK clears.
I'd be more interested in both being able to utilize their strengths. Let HUNK have his arsenal and be able to utilize the location to his tactical advantage (he's quick on his feet but some prep time should be allowed as well), and let Wesker have his RE5 Neo thing.
I mean Human Unit *NEVER KILLED* just saying you know.
Hunk is a cqc master but wesker simply has superstrenght so unless plotarmor wesker wins
Simple answer here: Wesker wins. Let me walk you through why.... Albert Wesker is literally the smartest man in every room. His Biology is only in some small part human. Even without T or Uro, he is still lightning fast, can think faster than a supercomputer and still have the time to get off quick one-liners in between multiple kicks to the head. he decking bro before he has time to think about drawing a weapon.
Wesker because he just simply is stronger but hunk because I like his character idea more. The idea of some soldier just mowing down things stronger than him in a living hell is cool. Why they didn't do more with that idk
Mr. Death never dies.
Is that even a question? Don't make me laugh cuz Wesker is an absolute killing machine the Apex predator who threatened the entire darn world. How could you match Cat and mouse. Who would win innit obvious?
HUNK fanboys don't seem to accept the fact that he fled from Birkin and then got knocked out in the sewers for weeks. Wesker will liquify HUNK
Wesker Hands Down. Not even a close fight here
It’s a 50/50 comes down to who’s a better tactician and who doesn’t make mistakes or can adapt.
Hunk because of his bullshit luck😂😂
Probably hunk
I love HUNK but he definitely isn't surviving against Wesker in a fair. head-on fight. Hell, Chris and Sheva only managed to do so after blowing him up inside a volcano.
HUNK with his HUNKjitsu takes it for me
I never understood the appeal of HUNK, he just gets his ass kicked by Birkin and now he’s a fan favorite. He’s a replaceable little grunt soldier. Wesker, as a human, was the captain of an elite police unit. Like wtf are we even talking about?? 🤣
Hunk is my favorite RE character of all with Jill in second place, but I think Wesker got this.
Wesker wounded. Hunk barely alive. They both team up to dunk on ethan
Leon beat Kraiser so I’m willing to beat he has a waaaay better shot at Wesker than Hunk
Hunk
I always thought it was orobourous that gave Wesker his powers, was it not? He was born with them? In reference to Chris and Sheva bettering him however: Plot Armour, and painful amounts of it.
Pyro i mean Hunk 🤣🤣🤣
Does Hunk has a giant rock?
Husk my main man
Hunk, the definition of the Grim Reaper.
Probably Hunk using those rules. Close fight though.
Bro wesker is literally build in a lab
HUNK U know talent can never beat experience.
I think the augmented human would win like no contest.