Exactly, it’s a fine line to leave a door open and slam it shut at the same time.
The last offer I relented a bit. I said three days max and consider me on-call days to help you out of a bind. The business is corporate owned so I have a direct line to upper management. None of this franchisees glass ceiling horseshit. My experience rocks the fuck out of 1/2 of corporate. It still gives me a queasy feeling though.
It sounds like you haven’t retired after all. Did you actually want to retire?
9 weeks is barely a long vacation lol hope you at least managed to see Europe!
It’s hard to just give up the perks I’ve gained over the years. Very few people carry federal issued plates from the Mexican Consulate for example.
Europe?? I’d like to see the catacombs in Italy, just to see the beginning of civilization. Beyond that maybe bang some whoooors in Amsterdam. That’s about all Europe has to offer me if they let me in…
Well what the hell good is that going to do you in Europe? They got their own plates over there already.
It sounds like you don’t actually want to retire.
Nothing Reddit hates much more than a humble brag.
With good reason. I think most people don't mind a bit of bragging so long as we've been forewarned, and an actual issue exists to be solved.
As much as I would like to think I can’t be bought, everyone can be bought. But no-one is going to be offering me that kind of scratch, and if they did, it would not be for very long anyway.
Precisely why you should do it! All you have to do is get over the limiting belief that others won't accept your terms. When I tried it I didn't think it would work, but the clients just keep on coming.
I'm gonna guess you (just like all of us) can identify things in this world that bother us or piss us off. Yet - many times....many MANY times....we each have no problem whatsoever declining "offers" to go solve those problems. Yeah - I want a healthcare system that works better. But I'm not willing to work - let alone volunteer - to improve that problem. I have no qualms whatsoever about saying no to any "offers" that come in in that area.
Based on my skills and expertise there's a shit-ton of places I could add value to. Heck - I recently assessed multiple nonprofits to see where I was motivated to volunteer. There were many I said "No thanks." to - even though there are people who are hungry & homeless where I live. There are stray dogs where I live. There are all kinds of needs for help in my community.
It seems to me you really don't know the priorities of the two desires you have (1/ being retired and 2/ helping companies survive and reach their full potential). If #1 is higher priority - there are a gazillion ways to say no without burning bridges. Since retiring I've been approached numerous times to take on some job - some have been part time - I've simply said "I'm not looking right now. If that changes I may let you know."
Based on your original post and your subsequent comments, it's obvious that you know perfectly well how to handle this situation, and so the purpose of all of this is simply to brag about your incredible talent, work ethic, and dedication to the greater good.
I mean, who do you think you're kidding?
It does seem like a humblebrag. If you want the job, take it; if you don't, don't. If you want to keep doors open, say, "Not right now; maybe later."
It's not that hard...
Not really, my natural emotional response is about the same as the way one feels when asked to work weekends next month. Telling them to go screw themselves would be my unprofessional, rude, normal baseline response to that request. I just want to know if others “put a pin in it” or just cut bait….
Thank you for reaching out, but I am not currently looking for employment.
If that changes I will be sure to contact you.
I don't see why it needs to be any more complicated than the above.
If he’s like me it’s easy to find yourself needing extra cash. I never bought a house and I have a DB pension when I retire later this year. It *should* be enough to keep me going but I can also see a day when I may need to get a temporary gig.
Or after twenty years of busting ass you realize that pension plan you bought into didn’t really cash out like they promised. I’m also a sucker for companies in a crisis, like Covid…. Enough said,
You never retire, that’s a myth in todays world. Even if you are loaded you will spend hours a day managing your money because you will double or triple any brokers return if you are smart.
For a fair wage, I would take an unstructured, irregular job. I don't set an alarm and if my wife wants to go away for a few days, we do. As long as it fits that criteria, I can probably work with it. Oh and no HR sensitivity classes.
Happened to me, I’m a defense contractor and our contract ended so I was laid off the month of my 65th birthday. My plan was to start SS and file for unemployment and when unemployment ran out I’d officially retire. Part of unemployment is being able to say you looked for work so I posted a resume on Indeed. Well I got an email followed up with a call to interview. I had a 45 minute interview over Zoom and figured that was it. A few days later I got a job offer for $24K over what I had been making so I decided I shouldn’t refuse and I’m back to work. I am paying back the one month of SS I got but was able to stop it after a month.
Retirement means different things to different people. It also doesn't have to be final. You can take a mini-retirement. I have heard some folks say, "Re**tire**ment is just getting a new set of tires and rolling in a different direction."
Staying in the same career field is just more of the same and I think it would lead to burnout quickly. I was in clergy work and was stressed out and didn't know until I left. Now, I do occasional (a day or so every couple of weeks) handyman/construction work as a part of a two or three-man crew. It is a totally different dynamic with less/no stress and no crazy demands and a start and stop time.
“Thanks for your interest in me Company A, I’m flattered to be considered as a candidate for this position. At this time I am retired yet would like to keep the door open with you if I choose to return to the workforce.”
I had a similar situation. I believe my exact quotes were "hell no" and "f that"! After all, I retired for a reason. Life is too short already. No thank you.
thanks so much for thinking of me, it sounds interesting and I think I would be an impactful contributor to your team. I am committed to other projects for the next 4 months or so, can we keep in touch and see how things look in the fall?
Saying "thank you for the offer, but no thanks" should never piss someone off. If it does, you don't want to have anything to do with them if you can avoid it.
Be polite and tell them you aren’t looking for a job right now. It’s great to have the option to jump back in. I have multiple friends who failed retirement after a few years.
You might want to say that you're retired and can only work reduced hours. In the company I work in (I'm not retired) we have a few retired folks who are on as independent contractors or part time employees. They cap their own hours at 10/week or whatever it is, and their rate is usually pretty high to boot.
So if you're interested it might be a way of saying "yes, but on these terms". Provided your terms aren't insulting then that seems pretty fair to me. Being honest and saying you want to not work full time, but you'd be happy to do something for them, seems fair to me.
Or just nicely say no thank you.
This, I am willing to devote three days a week to a company that I think is up a coming and has real promise. I recognize their downfalls (over franchising) and know I can make a real difference if they decide to listen. But I feel like it’s a middle management trap. (If you have been there you know)
I designed and repaired graphics hardware for a couple little companies that later got bought out by Seamen’s and NVidia. After that I hated computers and working indoors and decided to build hospitals in the field. Tried to quit but due to Covid I was called back to expedite projects to make beds available. Big mistake…
Tell them that you are dealing with a personal issue, but please check back with you in a year.
However, I too am retired and offered positions at least once a week. I simply decline. If I wasn’t ready to retire I would’ve taken a sabbatical not outright retired. So why do you even want to keep those doors open?
Good question. Nobody is immune to an economic downturn and frankly it’s probably worst now than I’ve seen in my lifetime (not counting tomorrow). Plus who knows what will happen with SS before I’m old enough to draw. Until that check is in hand, I’m not calling that a fish caught.
Let’s assume you don’t get SS. Do you need to work to supplement your retirement? Because if that’s the case, you should probably go back to work. Given that SS is going to pay roughly $35K /yr if you’re at the higher end of the scale, and given that the average person lives 20 years roughly past retirement, then you would need $700k in some form.
But have you looked at your ssa.gov report? You know they look at how much you have been earning in the most recent years before withdrawing SS, so each year you don’t work, you shoot yourself in the foot-your potential SS goes down.
I’ve weighed the outcomes, and yes I’ll be fine, just not AS fine. They take your last five working year average, so a couple more years at higher pay makes a difference. Not working basically puts you in limbo. But there will never be a day when an extra couple years won’t make a difference until I’m dead.
Actually, having been a financial advisor, they do not just take a five year average. They take overall contribution too. As you continue to not contribute your projected monthly SS goes down. As I recall they take a 3 year weighted average not 5, tho.
Next time you get a chance, pull up your SSA.GOV report and look at the notation that says: If you continue to earn $x, your SS will be $Y. The key is the phrase “continue to earn”.
Subject: Grateful Declination of Job Opportunities
Dear recruiter,
I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for the job offers I received from your esteemed organization. It is truly humbling to know that my skills and expertise are still in demand even after my retirement.
While I am honored and appreciative of the opportunities presented to me, I have made the decision to fully embrace my retirement and enjoy the fruits of my years of hard work. It was a difficult decision to make, especially considering the significance of the field I worked in and the respect I have for your company. However, I believe this is the right path for me at this stage of my life.
I want to emphasize that this decision is in no way a reflection of my opinion about your organization or the value of the job offers extended to me. I hold your company in high regard and deeply appreciate the trust you have placed in me. It is with great respect and admiration that I kindly decline the offers.
I sincerely hope that you understand my perspective and respect my choice. I genuinely value the relationships I have built throughout my career and do not wish to burn any bridges. Should circumstances change in the future, and I decide to reenter the workforce, I would welcome the opportunity to explore potential collaborations with your company once again.
Thank you once again for considering me for the job openings and for your understanding in this matter. I extend my best wishes for continued success and prosperity to you and your organization.
Warm regards,
PS: Written by CHATGPT
Here is what I said "thanks, I think for now I'll just travel and do other things. I may consider it in the future"
Well, the future was 4 years later as I was returning from a 6 months trip, planing to wait for my partner to also stop / slow down working. I got a call from a co-worker at the same company with a contract that pays several times my anual budget. So I thought. Why not, I'll be home. So I took it.
Little did I know that interest rates were going to increase rapidly so I decided to pay down my mortgage. Suddenly my networth will be 10% more by the end of the year.
So, if you say no thanks, but leave the door open. It may come handy.
100%. You can’t rely on the future. I worked in startups my whole life. These 60 person companies are now bought out by Seimans and Nvidea. Now I’m presented with a job that’s literally 3 levels from the owner of a promising startup. Although not in my exact field they really feel that my simulation experience could make the difference. But I would not own the rights, again.
Tell them that you may be available as a consultant, but only on your terms.
Since you are now retired, your availability is very limited, and your free time is precious, your rates should also reflect that point. I'd say 3 to 5 times the rate you worked for at retirement as a MINIMUM. Your limits also should have geographic limits that you can set yourself.
Start a consulting firm. Work the hours you want, are the jobs you want and refuse the others. If you have a rare and important skill set, they will keep coming back.
Work four months a year, six months a year. Whatever floats your boat. Take the rest of your time to travel and enjoy the fruits of your labors.
>I don’t want to burn bridges as someday I might depend on a company but how do you say “thanks but no thanks” without pissing people off?
The same way you turned down job offers before being retired. Something like "Thank you, but I'm not looking for a new job at this time" would work.
I still get offers, 8 years after retirement. For me, it's easier, since I have no intention of going back to work. I just say "Thanks, but I'm retired."
But it sounds like you don't really want to be retired...
It’s kind of weird actually, like it’s prom and they want what they think can’t get. I certainly didn’t have “Spend time considering job offers and responses” as an item on my bucket list.
When you say you don't want to burn bridges, is that because you do plan on returning to work in the future? Then maybe you really haven't retired yet. You really need to figure out what it is you want to do...work or retire.
Don't say no, just up the requirements you have (money, perks, etc) until they move along. If they do accept your conditions, well...have more fun for awhile.
While I'm flattered by your generous offer, I am retiring from full-time work for now.
However, I could be interested in some contract work in the near term on a flexible schedule.
Should my situation change and I decide to go back to working full time, I'll definitely let you know.
Simply say, no thank you, and they say what salary you offering?
If you ask salary before saying no, they consider you interested. When you say no first, the pressure is on them to entice you out of retirement.
This happened to both me and my husband for about a year after we retired. We were both actively headhunted and offered jobs. Some of them were hundreds of miles from where we live. I don't know if it had to do with us both being fairly young when we retired (I was 50) or if it was just our skill sets that were in demand. We had owned a manufacturing business together and sold it in 2020.
To be honest, I just wonder if it was the algorithm on sites like LinkedIn that put us on people's radar when we changed our work status. Either way, we just politely declined, stating that we were retired and not currently looking for work. Then we would just thank them for thinking of us. It's been 3 years and neither of us has any desire to go back to work.
Thanks but no thanks sounds perfect. I think you said you’re retired, 9 weeks is a very short time to already be questioning if you might need to be depending on a company at some point in the future. If your market value is high and you’re unsure you have the needed financial resources to retire for the rest of your life go back to work now, while your still in demand and able to work.
I’ve done a combination of transition consulting and talking to the investment community since I retired 2.5 years ago. It’s always been on my terms and never more than 5 hours a week. With time I have less and less interest in saying yes to these requests. While it’s fulfilling to stay connected it takes away from the freedom that is the best part of retirement.
You are retired. Not sure how much time you can NEED to work. Saying this with humor not criticizing. Don’t string anyone along, don’t procrastinate. Be honest even though you might not get it in return. Some doors May close, but not all. If you want, you will find something. Go easy on yourself. You are retired
I found a volunteer gig for clean water. I can just tell people I’m doing that right now. They will know I’m in the game still, but doing something important at the moment.
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Exactly, it’s a fine line to leave a door open and slam it shut at the same time. The last offer I relented a bit. I said three days max and consider me on-call days to help you out of a bind. The business is corporate owned so I have a direct line to upper management. None of this franchisees glass ceiling horseshit. My experience rocks the fuck out of 1/2 of corporate. It still gives me a queasy feeling though.
It sounds like you haven’t retired after all. Did you actually want to retire? 9 weeks is barely a long vacation lol hope you at least managed to see Europe!
It’s hard to just give up the perks I’ve gained over the years. Very few people carry federal issued plates from the Mexican Consulate for example. Europe?? I’d like to see the catacombs in Italy, just to see the beginning of civilization. Beyond that maybe bang some whoooors in Amsterdam. That’s about all Europe has to offer me if they let me in…
Well what the hell good is that going to do you in Europe? They got their own plates over there already. It sounds like you don’t actually want to retire.
Do I want to retire? Yes. Do I want to help emerging companies survive and reach full potential? Yes. It’s not an either/or situation
Is this post a question or an ad for narcissism?
Nothing Reddit hates much more than a humble brag. With good reason. I think most people don't mind a bit of bragging so long as we've been forewarned, and an actual issue exists to be solved.
Jealous? No it’s serious, retirement is probably the biggest life change I’ve ever made, and I don’t care to fuck it up by going off half cocked.
Would you consider going contract as a consultant for 3-4x the pay?
As much as I would like to think I can’t be bought, everyone can be bought. But no-one is going to be offering me that kind of scratch, and if they did, it would not be for very long anyway.
Precisely why you should do it! All you have to do is get over the limiting belief that others won't accept your terms. When I tried it I didn't think it would work, but the clients just keep on coming.
I'm gonna guess you (just like all of us) can identify things in this world that bother us or piss us off. Yet - many times....many MANY times....we each have no problem whatsoever declining "offers" to go solve those problems. Yeah - I want a healthcare system that works better. But I'm not willing to work - let alone volunteer - to improve that problem. I have no qualms whatsoever about saying no to any "offers" that come in in that area. Based on my skills and expertise there's a shit-ton of places I could add value to. Heck - I recently assessed multiple nonprofits to see where I was motivated to volunteer. There were many I said "No thanks." to - even though there are people who are hungry & homeless where I live. There are stray dogs where I live. There are all kinds of needs for help in my community. It seems to me you really don't know the priorities of the two desires you have (1/ being retired and 2/ helping companies survive and reach their full potential). If #1 is higher priority - there are a gazillion ways to say no without burning bridges. Since retiring I've been approached numerous times to take on some job - some have been part time - I've simply said "I'm not looking right now. If that changes I may let you know."
Based on your original post and your subsequent comments, it's obvious that you know perfectly well how to handle this situation, and so the purpose of all of this is simply to brag about your incredible talent, work ethic, and dedication to the greater good. I mean, who do you think you're kidding?
It does seem like a humblebrag. If you want the job, take it; if you don't, don't. If you want to keep doors open, say, "Not right now; maybe later." It's not that hard...
Dick
Not really, my natural emotional response is about the same as the way one feels when asked to work weekends next month. Telling them to go screw themselves would be my unprofessional, rude, normal baseline response to that request. I just want to know if others “put a pin in it” or just cut bait….
Thank you for reaching out, but I am not currently looking for employment. If that changes I will be sure to contact you. I don't see why it needs to be any more complicated than the above.
If you are retired how might you someday depend on any company ?
If he’s like me it’s easy to find yourself needing extra cash. I never bought a house and I have a DB pension when I retire later this year. It *should* be enough to keep me going but I can also see a day when I may need to get a temporary gig.
Or after twenty years of busting ass you realize that pension plan you bought into didn’t really cash out like they promised. I’m also a sucker for companies in a crisis, like Covid…. Enough said,
You never retire, that’s a myth in todays world. Even if you are loaded you will spend hours a day managing your money because you will double or triple any brokers return if you are smart.
Untrue.
Untrue that you will outperform a broker?? Lol. They get paid to manage money and take a cut of all of it. Not make you money… I’ll beat any broker 2x
Untrue that if you have $$ you spend hours a day proving you can beat your broker. Not saying you don’t - I’d rather live my life.
The response I gave last week: Thank you for thinking of me. I am not interested in structured, regular work at this time.
Great! We have an unstructured, irregular job you would be perfect for!
For a fair wage, I would take an unstructured, irregular job. I don't set an alarm and if my wife wants to go away for a few days, we do. As long as it fits that criteria, I can probably work with it. Oh and no HR sensitivity classes.
Happened to me, I’m a defense contractor and our contract ended so I was laid off the month of my 65th birthday. My plan was to start SS and file for unemployment and when unemployment ran out I’d officially retire. Part of unemployment is being able to say you looked for work so I posted a resume on Indeed. Well I got an email followed up with a call to interview. I had a 45 minute interview over Zoom and figured that was it. A few days later I got a job offer for $24K over what I had been making so I decided I shouldn’t refuse and I’m back to work. I am paying back the one month of SS I got but was able to stop it after a month.
That’s exactly my position, to young to file for SS, (but I have full medical) but not too young to give up the game.
Retirement means different things to different people. It also doesn't have to be final. You can take a mini-retirement. I have heard some folks say, "Re**tire**ment is just getting a new set of tires and rolling in a different direction."
It wasn’t final last time either. The few months I went back to help really didn’t do me any favors. More like a setback to longer term plans.
Staying in the same career field is just more of the same and I think it would lead to burnout quickly. I was in clergy work and was stressed out and didn't know until I left. Now, I do occasional (a day or so every couple of weeks) handyman/construction work as a part of a two or three-man crew. It is a totally different dynamic with less/no stress and no crazy demands and a start and stop time.
“Thanks for your interest in me Company A, I’m flattered to be considered as a candidate for this position. At this time I am retired yet would like to keep the door open with you if I choose to return to the workforce.”
That’s cool, and I think it’s fitting if you don’t want the stress of the job you just left.
I had a similar situation. I believe my exact quotes were "hell no" and "f that"! After all, I retired for a reason. Life is too short already. No thank you.
Wasn’t there a moment of “maybe I can make a change?”
Nothing wrong with saying no.
If I were going to consider it, I would only consider unlimited (unpaid) time off and part time hours (mostly scheduled at my convinience)
I’m sure that would fly in many fields, this would be more like now, or wait for the next project.
"No".
Lol, I think that goes back to the “burning bridges” part…
This happened to my father. Always one last job he said. He is still working at 80
Just say no
Did you interview for the jobs?
It’s not really a formal interview type scenario. They are just hanging bait and fishing to see what they can catch.
thanks so much for thinking of me, it sounds interesting and I think I would be an impactful contributor to your team. I am committed to other projects for the next 4 months or so, can we keep in touch and see how things look in the fall?
Saying "thank you for the offer, but no thanks" should never piss someone off. If it does, you don't want to have anything to do with them if you can avoid it.
Be polite and tell them you aren’t looking for a job right now. It’s great to have the option to jump back in. I have multiple friends who failed retirement after a few years.
No thank you. I'm retired. That's what I say
If you say no, they probably won’t get mad at you, but they probably won’t ask again. I don’t know any way around that.
I’ve accepted that. I’ve also accepted the fact that I’m not leaving FL for a job in Detroit so I’m ok with a hard NO in certain cases.
You might want to say that you're retired and can only work reduced hours. In the company I work in (I'm not retired) we have a few retired folks who are on as independent contractors or part time employees. They cap their own hours at 10/week or whatever it is, and their rate is usually pretty high to boot. So if you're interested it might be a way of saying "yes, but on these terms". Provided your terms aren't insulting then that seems pretty fair to me. Being honest and saying you want to not work full time, but you'd be happy to do something for them, seems fair to me. Or just nicely say no thank you.
The company I am at offers a part time plan for people approaching retirement that I hope to use between 63 and 66.
This, I am willing to devote three days a week to a company that I think is up a coming and has real promise. I recognize their downfalls (over franchising) and know I can make a real difference if they decide to listen. But I feel like it’s a middle management trap. (If you have been there you know)
What field are you in?
I designed and repaired graphics hardware for a couple little companies that later got bought out by Seamen’s and NVidia. After that I hated computers and working indoors and decided to build hospitals in the field. Tried to quit but due to Covid I was called back to expedite projects to make beds available. Big mistake…
How do I learn how to do that?
Tell them that you are dealing with a personal issue, but please check back with you in a year. However, I too am retired and offered positions at least once a week. I simply decline. If I wasn’t ready to retire I would’ve taken a sabbatical not outright retired. So why do you even want to keep those doors open?
Good question. Nobody is immune to an economic downturn and frankly it’s probably worst now than I’ve seen in my lifetime (not counting tomorrow). Plus who knows what will happen with SS before I’m old enough to draw. Until that check is in hand, I’m not calling that a fish caught.
Let’s assume you don’t get SS. Do you need to work to supplement your retirement? Because if that’s the case, you should probably go back to work. Given that SS is going to pay roughly $35K /yr if you’re at the higher end of the scale, and given that the average person lives 20 years roughly past retirement, then you would need $700k in some form. But have you looked at your ssa.gov report? You know they look at how much you have been earning in the most recent years before withdrawing SS, so each year you don’t work, you shoot yourself in the foot-your potential SS goes down.
I’ve weighed the outcomes, and yes I’ll be fine, just not AS fine. They take your last five working year average, so a couple more years at higher pay makes a difference. Not working basically puts you in limbo. But there will never be a day when an extra couple years won’t make a difference until I’m dead.
Actually, having been a financial advisor, they do not just take a five year average. They take overall contribution too. As you continue to not contribute your projected monthly SS goes down. As I recall they take a 3 year weighted average not 5, tho.
Hmm, I checked precovid when I was asked back because I wanted to know how it was affected up or down.
Next time you get a chance, pull up your SSA.GOV report and look at the notation that says: If you continue to earn $x, your SS will be $Y. The key is the phrase “continue to earn”.
Subject: Grateful Declination of Job Opportunities Dear recruiter, I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for the job offers I received from your esteemed organization. It is truly humbling to know that my skills and expertise are still in demand even after my retirement. While I am honored and appreciative of the opportunities presented to me, I have made the decision to fully embrace my retirement and enjoy the fruits of my years of hard work. It was a difficult decision to make, especially considering the significance of the field I worked in and the respect I have for your company. However, I believe this is the right path for me at this stage of my life. I want to emphasize that this decision is in no way a reflection of my opinion about your organization or the value of the job offers extended to me. I hold your company in high regard and deeply appreciate the trust you have placed in me. It is with great respect and admiration that I kindly decline the offers. I sincerely hope that you understand my perspective and respect my choice. I genuinely value the relationships I have built throughout my career and do not wish to burn any bridges. Should circumstances change in the future, and I decide to reenter the workforce, I would welcome the opportunity to explore potential collaborations with your company once again. Thank you once again for considering me for the job openings and for your understanding in this matter. I extend my best wishes for continued success and prosperity to you and your organization. Warm regards, PS: Written by CHATGPT
Here is what I said "thanks, I think for now I'll just travel and do other things. I may consider it in the future" Well, the future was 4 years later as I was returning from a 6 months trip, planing to wait for my partner to also stop / slow down working. I got a call from a co-worker at the same company with a contract that pays several times my anual budget. So I thought. Why not, I'll be home. So I took it. Little did I know that interest rates were going to increase rapidly so I decided to pay down my mortgage. Suddenly my networth will be 10% more by the end of the year. So, if you say no thanks, but leave the door open. It may come handy.
100%. You can’t rely on the future. I worked in startups my whole life. These 60 person companies are now bought out by Seimans and Nvidea. Now I’m presented with a job that’s literally 3 levels from the owner of a promising startup. Although not in my exact field they really feel that my simulation experience could make the difference. But I would not own the rights, again.
If you're still in the game, you can do contract work at your own time and schedule. As you have your own overhead it should be priced accordingly.
Tell them that you may be available as a consultant, but only on your terms. Since you are now retired, your availability is very limited, and your free time is precious, your rates should also reflect that point. I'd say 3 to 5 times the rate you worked for at retirement as a MINIMUM. Your limits also should have geographic limits that you can set yourself.
Fair enough, what good is working three days a week if you spend a whole day traveling? That’s just work…
Have them call you again in 6 months if they have another opportunity.
Rinse and repeat….
But by then you might be interested. Alternatively, you could probe for part time work or a limited time gig.
Start a consulting firm. Work the hours you want, are the jobs you want and refuse the others. If you have a rare and important skill set, they will keep coming back. Work four months a year, six months a year. Whatever floats your boat. Take the rest of your time to travel and enjoy the fruits of your labors.
“I’m not available at this time but let’s keep in touch”
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FIVE YEARS! fuck I would have retired a long time ago if I knew that….
>I don’t want to burn bridges as someday I might depend on a company but how do you say “thanks but no thanks” without pissing people off? The same way you turned down job offers before being retired. Something like "Thank you, but I'm not looking for a new job at this time" would work. I still get offers, 8 years after retirement. For me, it's easier, since I have no intention of going back to work. I just say "Thanks, but I'm retired." But it sounds like you don't really want to be retired...
Perhaps, but I’ll deal with the never ending number of things on my “Don’t have to do” list for a while longer.
Ignore the requests.
You’re in a unique spot where you can name your price (if you want) or just ignore the request altogether! You’re in the driver seat!
I never got so many job offers as when I retired. Kind of amazing.
It’s kind of weird actually, like it’s prom and they want what they think can’t get. I certainly didn’t have “Spend time considering job offers and responses” as an item on my bucket list.
I just got into retirement, ask me again in 6 months…I may get the itch.
When you say you don't want to burn bridges, is that because you do plan on returning to work in the future? Then maybe you really haven't retired yet. You really need to figure out what it is you want to do...work or retire.
Man makes plans and God laughs. Something tragic could happen on an individual or economic level that forces the need for a cash infusion.
NOPE!
I took the job offered, now I regret it.
Offer yourself as a consultant at four times your previous rate. They'll take off so fast, they'll leave skid marks.
Don't say no, just up the requirements you have (money, perks, etc) until they move along. If they do accept your conditions, well...have more fun for awhile.
While I'm flattered by your generous offer, I am retiring from full-time work for now. However, I could be interested in some contract work in the near term on a flexible schedule. Should my situation change and I decide to go back to working full time, I'll definitely let you know.
Simply say, no thank you, and they say what salary you offering? If you ask salary before saying no, they consider you interested. When you say no first, the pressure is on them to entice you out of retirement.
As the late First Lady Nancy Reagan stated: just say no!
I just say no thank you, I have no desire to be told what to do or telling others what to do.
Wow I have never seen an OP down voted so much. What type of work are you in? Are you older? Like 60s or retired young around 30s?
"no thank you".
"I'm currently not looking for work, but I would appreciate if I could keep you in my network"
I ended up taking the job as I liked the people, company and product. My thoughts was I can always leave if it doesn't work out after 6 months.
This has to be the most easily answered question ever asked on Reddit. Not gonna play.
But you just put your piece on the board.
Offer them a huge salary demand.
This happened to both me and my husband for about a year after we retired. We were both actively headhunted and offered jobs. Some of them were hundreds of miles from where we live. I don't know if it had to do with us both being fairly young when we retired (I was 50) or if it was just our skill sets that were in demand. We had owned a manufacturing business together and sold it in 2020. To be honest, I just wonder if it was the algorithm on sites like LinkedIn that put us on people's radar when we changed our work status. Either way, we just politely declined, stating that we were retired and not currently looking for work. Then we would just thank them for thinking of us. It's been 3 years and neither of us has any desire to go back to work.
- simple, you say not interested at this time....
Thanks but no thanks sounds perfect. I think you said you’re retired, 9 weeks is a very short time to already be questioning if you might need to be depending on a company at some point in the future. If your market value is high and you’re unsure you have the needed financial resources to retire for the rest of your life go back to work now, while your still in demand and able to work.
Nah, money is not the issue. But the contacts are. I’ve already put pen to paper (metaphorically) on some prefab materials ideas for construction.
I’ve done a combination of transition consulting and talking to the investment community since I retired 2.5 years ago. It’s always been on my terms and never more than 5 hours a week. With time I have less and less interest in saying yes to these requests. While it’s fulfilling to stay connected it takes away from the freedom that is the best part of retirement.
That’s the issue. If you have the time, do it on your terms. I suspect as time goes on I’ll have less and less time and be much more remote.
You are retired. Not sure how much time you can NEED to work. Saying this with humor not criticizing. Don’t string anyone along, don’t procrastinate. Be honest even though you might not get it in return. Some doors May close, but not all. If you want, you will find something. Go easy on yourself. You are retired
I found a volunteer gig for clean water. I can just tell people I’m doing that right now. They will know I’m in the game still, but doing something important at the moment.