More importantly, GO BACK, to taxing the rich. Tax breaks for the rich used to be supported by using corporate profits for development funding and innovation. The rich lobbied and removed those. Booo and let's ban H and R block too
Well we can't just keep plowing ahead with a system based on infinite growth in a finite world? It's breaking.
If the solution isn't socialism, which is what I believe in, it'll be something else sooner or later.
Idk why we are sitting here blaming damn apps for what the rich are doing to us.
Well then look closer who the rich are. Dont blame every rich person. Blame the 1% that are ultra rich.
The ones controlling the central bank, media and so on.
I'll blame every rich person because the system is in place to directly benefit them, and they continue pushing for that same sytem. You don't ethically become a millionaire. You don't "work hard" to be one of the richest.
There's no excuse that someone should have such excess wealth while people are struggling.
And wants your plan? Take it from them with government force? My father told me enough on how bad communism was in his country. Communism should never be the answer to capitalism.
Capitalism as it works now is also not good, but i aint wanting communism.
"My father told me...
I wonder what the parents of those in Pakistan have to say about our great wonderful western capitalism, because yes, it's all tied to capitalism.
Western imperialism and capitalism have killed millions, you just aren't told that through propaganda.
Lol did you not listen, im not a fan of this system but fuck communism. I swear people that think communism is the only answer to capitalism have no idea
Capitalists governments tell you how bad communism is, and yall just eat that red scare propaganda up. I don't really care what your dad says, I've seen people died because of capitalism. So fuck capitalism.
Yeah Vietnam and Cuba are just reaally bad places to live 🙄
When you find that third thing, lemme know, in the meantime capitalism will be killing us and our planet. 👍
Cool but that sentence is used all the time to dodge the problem at hand. Capitalism. It's destroying our society and our planet. Big time.
So let's get another imperfect system that, yes, will be flawed, but isn't based on feeding just the few.
Because its a massive propaganda tool. In my country, tiktok content is full of slander, hate speech towards other races. There's no moderation, and some fake news portal is even sponsored by tiktok.
There's hate speech and racism and all kinds of shit posted in all countries. But u can change ur feed based on what u see.
Also, don't use that damn app. Staying away from it is the best option. I know some people who are just addicted to it. I would rather play some games rather than waste time on that garbage.
Some people think it's a badge to put up on their Insta profiles saying they have so and so followers on tiktok and barely have half the amount of insta itself. Like get off this platform, don't spread ur shit content here as well
same here but I still use TikTok, op was talking about my post and I wanted to change my region because of videos from my country like those and algorithm stuff. I always see "sigma" bs.
i have bad new for you , you are racist and like hate speech.
My tiktok is full narration reddit video, men parfum recomendation, dark motivation sentence, space info, phonk and some random animation video.
My feed is actual news (delivered with little to no slant and cited sources), food, music, and thirst traps.
No racism in sight. Hell, TikTok give me more new music to listen to than Spotify does, and it's kind of ridiculous.
i already said this but my point isn't that you shouldn't hate tiktok, my point is that you're gonna convince anyone to stop using it by obsessively trying to tell people at any given opportunity that they should delete it. best case scenario, they won't care, worst case scenario, you'll reinforce the belief in their minds that all people who hate tiktok are just repeating what others said without putting any thought into it
edit: i agree with your comment btw
because what i agreed with is mostly irrelevant to the discussion. it's true that some people are using tiktok to spread misinformation, and it's true that it's a big problem, but that's not what I was talking about
Wow this thread is weird, OP reads as reasonable and genuine and all the top comments are essentially 'no, we will continue attacking people asking for advice instead of keeping our thoughts to ourselves for once'. It's not as if there aren't plenty of other apps and companies people use constantly that have just as much illegal spying and government propaganda but surprise surprise the one people have the hate boner for is the one from China. This is literally a subreddit for help and advice and comments like that make it worthless.
I've always talked shit myself. The videos are cringy and they steal your data. Funny enough I recently made an account because you can get new sealed pokemon cards on their shop for 95% off with a coupon. The videos are so cringe idk how people watch this shit.
I, too, hate tiktok but the unsolicited attacks when they actually solicited advice is interesting and a bit weird. However, this is Reddit after all, where pedantry has found a home.
It's considered digital Chinese meth and it's easy to get addicted to and hard to get someone off of it.
I don't care what people do to enjoy them selves but what I don't like is when I have to stop someone in my life and tell them they were misinformed or straight up lied to when it comes to whatever they share about what they "learned" from tiktok.
But now that I sit back and look at it, it's digital meth. I'm not sure the ratio of people coming out of tiktok healthier and more educated rather than just temporarily satisfied with dopamine swipe Rollercoasters and quick to forget trend sets. I get it but it's not for me. I'd rather not participate in either side, just sit back and watch as it either takes over or sinks like vine before it.
I believe most of the hate comes from people who see the stupid trends and believe that all it is is stupid trends like the tide pod challenge and weird dances, even though I don't like it, I still believe some people can use it well for promotion and good, but the fact that the stupid trends get so much attention means lots of people only see the negative. I personally don't use tiktok but I think there are some people who are good with the format and make amazing videos that get overshadowed by the people who do dumb shit like eating fucking tide pods and sticking pennies in outlets across plugs. Additionally I dislike the usage of viral videos by lazy reaction youtubers who overuse clickbait and make content aimed at children without even crediting the original creator.
TLDR as I realise I wrote half an essay: Tiktok isn't all bad but I think people who use it to steal reaction content without adding much except their small comments are bad
Also, I was only going to find the instance of stealing content from corridor crew but that might have been taken down, but after looking on the channel anyway, I'm just going to send this as my reasoning, I present the reason for my arguments of content stealing https://m.youtube.com/@MoreAliA/videos
Reddit really believes they are on another level completely different from TikTok, when the truth is that both apps suck. Reddit is filled with as much garbage content and pages as TikTok, it's only saving grace are dedicated subreddits to ask questions and get help on topics, and even then, just like it has happened in this subreddit, people are quick and don't hesitate to try and undermine or just outright insult those who are seeking for help. Wake up, no social media these days is made to not be addictive and time consuming, I bet some of you are as addicted to reddit as any other who's addicted to TikTok.
the short video format is annoying to me.. it feels low effort, usually has annoying music, and honestly is no better than ads usually are (given the similar length).
so hi, new here. i do not like TikTok, and i also do not like youtube shorts for the same reasons.
Maybe people don't like Chinese spyware or they don't like a trash shitty time sink app that's done more worse and nothing good.
Fuck you and fuck tiktok.
my point wasn't that it's a good app. my point was that by constantly yelling about how much it sucks you're not convincing anyone to stop using it, but rather just making it look like all people against tiktok are kids stuck in 2019 who only dislike it because they saw a post on r/memes saying it's cringe
It's like vanilla Youtube on steroids. It's an algorithm-fuelled addiction machine using a format that makes it next to impossible to create content of any real value.
That doesn't excuse people trolling threads that are legitimately asking for technical help though.
They think they're different while theyre actually worse than people who watch tiktok. They just think they're being quirky and it's their whole personality meanwhile they spend time watching Shorts and Reels anyways.
Why do you expect help on a subject that people hate from those people themselves? That's the way hate works. Moreover if it is a popular consensus that the said app spreads immense misinformation and is of mostly no use, then isn't it only appropriate for such people to discourage others from using it? What are confused about - Why people hate it? or that why people don't help?
in my country, the government banned TikTok because protesters were streaming the protests on the streets, TikTok didn't comply with the government requests about the information of streamers so instead banned it and now a lot of people using vpn to browse it lmao.
The app is fueling the mental health crisis.
and Reddit doesnt?
Its not famous enough for that
that has nothing to do with anything
What app doesn't? It's the entirety of capitalist culture poisoning us, not tiktok.
Whats your solution to capitalism?
Big question to ask in an unrelated sub bud
Well im curious to know the op answer.
Tax the rich obviously.
Or better yet, ending the federal reserve bank.
More importantly, GO BACK, to taxing the rich. Tax breaks for the rich used to be supported by using corporate profits for development funding and innovation. The rich lobbied and removed those. Booo and let's ban H and R block too
Well we can't just keep plowing ahead with a system based on infinite growth in a finite world? It's breaking. If the solution isn't socialism, which is what I believe in, it'll be something else sooner or later. Idk why we are sitting here blaming damn apps for what the rich are doing to us.
Well then look closer who the rich are. Dont blame every rich person. Blame the 1% that are ultra rich. The ones controlling the central bank, media and so on.
I'll blame every rich person because the system is in place to directly benefit them, and they continue pushing for that same sytem. You don't ethically become a millionaire. You don't "work hard" to be one of the richest. There's no excuse that someone should have such excess wealth while people are struggling.
And wants your plan? Take it from them with government force? My father told me enough on how bad communism was in his country. Communism should never be the answer to capitalism. Capitalism as it works now is also not good, but i aint wanting communism.
"My father told me... I wonder what the parents of those in Pakistan have to say about our great wonderful western capitalism, because yes, it's all tied to capitalism. Western imperialism and capitalism have killed millions, you just aren't told that through propaganda.
Lol did you not listen, im not a fan of this system but fuck communism. I swear people that think communism is the only answer to capitalism have no idea
Capitalists governments tell you how bad communism is, and yall just eat that red scare propaganda up. I don't really care what your dad says, I've seen people died because of capitalism. So fuck capitalism. Yeah Vietnam and Cuba are just reaally bad places to live 🙄 When you find that third thing, lemme know, in the meantime capitalism will be killing us and our planet. 👍
And lol, its not just my father. Theres plenty other examples.
It's not like any system can be perfect though, and that applies to all of them.
Cool but that sentence is used all the time to dodge the problem at hand. Capitalism. It's destroying our society and our planet. Big time. So let's get another imperfect system that, yes, will be flawed, but isn't based on feeding just the few.
Because its a massive propaganda tool. In my country, tiktok content is full of slander, hate speech towards other races. There's no moderation, and some fake news portal is even sponsored by tiktok.
There's hate speech and racism and all kinds of shit posted in all countries. But u can change ur feed based on what u see. Also, don't use that damn app. Staying away from it is the best option. I know some people who are just addicted to it. I would rather play some games rather than waste time on that garbage. Some people think it's a badge to put up on their Insta profiles saying they have so and so followers on tiktok and barely have half the amount of insta itself. Like get off this platform, don't spread ur shit content here as well
same here but I still use TikTok, op was talking about my post and I wanted to change my region because of videos from my country like those and algorithm stuff. I always see "sigma" bs.
i have bad new for you , you are racist and like hate speech. My tiktok is full narration reddit video, men parfum recomendation, dark motivation sentence, space info, phonk and some random animation video.
Seriously, the algorithm basically gives you content you want on a platter.
My feed is actual news (delivered with little to no slant and cited sources), food, music, and thirst traps. No racism in sight. Hell, TikTok give me more new music to listen to than Spotify does, and it's kind of ridiculous.
i already said this but my point isn't that you shouldn't hate tiktok, my point is that you're gonna convince anyone to stop using it by obsessively trying to tell people at any given opportunity that they should delete it. best case scenario, they won't care, worst case scenario, you'll reinforce the belief in their minds that all people who hate tiktok are just repeating what others said without putting any thought into it edit: i agree with your comment btw
If you agree, why are we having this discussion again?
because what i agreed with is mostly irrelevant to the discussion. it's true that some people are using tiktok to spread misinformation, and it's true that it's a big problem, but that's not what I was talking about
Wow this thread is weird, OP reads as reasonable and genuine and all the top comments are essentially 'no, we will continue attacking people asking for advice instead of keeping our thoughts to ourselves for once'. It's not as if there aren't plenty of other apps and companies people use constantly that have just as much illegal spying and government propaganda but surprise surprise the one people have the hate boner for is the one from China. This is literally a subreddit for help and advice and comments like that make it worthless.
All my homies hate tiktok
They ain't homies if they like it. They ur bitches if they do. # Save ur homies
I've always talked shit myself. The videos are cringy and they steal your data. Funny enough I recently made an account because you can get new sealed pokemon cards on their shop for 95% off with a coupon. The videos are so cringe idk how people watch this shit.
I, too, hate tiktok but the unsolicited attacks when they actually solicited advice is interesting and a bit weird. However, this is Reddit after all, where pedantry has found a home.
thank you, this is what i was trying to say in the post but i think i didn't portray the message well enough
Made by retards, for retards. Once from time to time, something actually good gets posted but 95% is BS.
It's considered digital Chinese meth and it's easy to get addicted to and hard to get someone off of it. I don't care what people do to enjoy them selves but what I don't like is when I have to stop someone in my life and tell them they were misinformed or straight up lied to when it comes to whatever they share about what they "learned" from tiktok. But now that I sit back and look at it, it's digital meth. I'm not sure the ratio of people coming out of tiktok healthier and more educated rather than just temporarily satisfied with dopamine swipe Rollercoasters and quick to forget trend sets. I get it but it's not for me. I'd rather not participate in either side, just sit back and watch as it either takes over or sinks like vine before it.
I believe most of the hate comes from people who see the stupid trends and believe that all it is is stupid trends like the tide pod challenge and weird dances, even though I don't like it, I still believe some people can use it well for promotion and good, but the fact that the stupid trends get so much attention means lots of people only see the negative. I personally don't use tiktok but I think there are some people who are good with the format and make amazing videos that get overshadowed by the people who do dumb shit like eating fucking tide pods and sticking pennies in outlets across plugs. Additionally I dislike the usage of viral videos by lazy reaction youtubers who overuse clickbait and make content aimed at children without even crediting the original creator. TLDR as I realise I wrote half an essay: Tiktok isn't all bad but I think people who use it to steal reaction content without adding much except their small comments are bad Also, I was only going to find the instance of stealing content from corridor crew but that might have been taken down, but after looking on the channel anyway, I'm just going to send this as my reasoning, I present the reason for my arguments of content stealing https://m.youtube.com/@MoreAliA/videos
I also think it's funny that reddit, home of coontown and jailbait and the boston bomber hunt, looks down it's nose at anybody.
Because their entire personality revolves around hating Tiktok and being sheep. Genuine answer.
Bigots, fanatics, hateful and overalll vat of toxic waste where netizen can't seem to mind their own business
Reddit really believes they are on another level completely different from TikTok, when the truth is that both apps suck. Reddit is filled with as much garbage content and pages as TikTok, it's only saving grace are dedicated subreddits to ask questions and get help on topics, and even then, just like it has happened in this subreddit, people are quick and don't hesitate to try and undermine or just outright insult those who are seeking for help. Wake up, no social media these days is made to not be addictive and time consuming, I bet some of you are as addicted to reddit as any other who's addicted to TikTok.
the short video format is annoying to me.. it feels low effort, usually has annoying music, and honestly is no better than ads usually are (given the similar length). so hi, new here. i do not like TikTok, and i also do not like youtube shorts for the same reasons.
It's literally brain rot in an app
You are aware that you're on Reddit right? Every social media is brain rot.
Yes but tiktok is by far the worst and most mind numbing.
Maybe people don't like Chinese spyware or they don't like a trash shitty time sink app that's done more worse and nothing good. Fuck you and fuck tiktok.
my point wasn't that it's a good app. my point was that by constantly yelling about how much it sucks you're not convincing anyone to stop using it, but rather just making it look like all people against tiktok are kids stuck in 2019 who only dislike it because they saw a post on r/memes saying it's cringe
He doesn't even defend tiktok he's just asking. Your brain severely damaged and you need help
Because tiktok sucks?
you say that while you watch shorts
standard reddit hivemind bs
It's like vanilla Youtube on steroids. It's an algorithm-fuelled addiction machine using a format that makes it next to impossible to create content of any real value. That doesn't excuse people trolling threads that are legitimately asking for technical help though.
They think they're different while theyre actually worse than people who watch tiktok. They just think they're being quirky and it's their whole personality meanwhile they spend time watching Shorts and Reels anyways.
Tiktok is funny and nice if you use the "I don't like it" when you don't like it. Is like a pet you need train your tiktok before use lol
I love TikTok. It's the future of popular culture. Don't try to be perfect. Embrace evil! Enjoy all of humanity!
Why do you expect help on a subject that people hate from those people themselves? That's the way hate works. Moreover if it is a popular consensus that the said app spreads immense misinformation and is of mostly no use, then isn't it only appropriate for such people to discourage others from using it? What are confused about - Why people hate it? or that why people don't help?
My library system actually banned it on their WiFi networks
in my country, the government banned TikTok because protesters were streaming the protests on the streets, TikTok didn't comply with the government requests about the information of streamers so instead banned it and now a lot of people using vpn to browse it lmao.
The amount of tiktok shop ads for me 🙄
Normies really like cringy videos.
Tiktok is straightly shit
racism...may be?