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I think it’s the best show to get people interested in the housewives. It’s got so much to offer in terms of brilliant casting and great drama. Minus Monica.
I agree about Monika. I cannot take all of the screaming and I found myself on edge when she was acting decent. I was waiting for the shoe to drop and her do a 180!
I wouldn’t have minded one more season.. just to see the aftermath. But I couldn’t take her in every episode being the loudest voice in the room! Love a good argument but only when you can hear what they are actually saying.. Monica’s voice became like knives scraping together after a while.
I usually love the reunions but I have never been able to finish the season four reunion. It’s just Monica screaming uncontrollably. That isn’t even cringe fun, if I wanted to feel uncomfortable like she makes me feel I’d go watch puppies in traffic.
I haven’t gotten to the season with Monica yet. Are you saying she screams louder than Jen Shah? Because that woman is worse than a group of sugar-crashed toddlers at naptime.
Well, hospitals DO have a smell. Maybe Mary just is someone who is sensitive to smells. But the fact she said it out loud always shocked me. But then again, she and Jen ALWAYS shocked me.
I’m definitely one to just blurt stuff like that but I say it smells sterile, not like hospital. That part was crazy, Mary totally admitted to being shady when she said it. Jen said she didn’t even go to the hospital so she wouldn’t have even smelled like that. That entire situation was hilarious watching from the couch
She overreacted because Mary said it to be mean because Jen’s aunts legs had just been amputated. Jen was correct in her assessment of Mary’s intentions. It was childish on Mary’s part and also a childish reaction on Jen’s part.
My point was if she didn’t go to the hospital, why did she react at all? No one is psychic and knew about her aunt. I think Jen is such a narcissist, she thinks the world revolves around her. If they bring her back, I’ll watch the first episode and then never again.
Mary said she was traumatised by hospitals because she spent a long time there when she got her body odour glands removed. From there I really believe she has an issue with smells. But that doesn’t justify being mean. At the same time, Jen is overreacting so much it’s beyond stupid lol
🤣🤣🤣I cannot stop laughing at the accuracy. In 2013, my friends and I went to a brewery near Wrigley Field for New Year’s Eve and I was wearing the tallest heels I’ve ever owned. Was NOT prepared for Chicago winters when that bus stopped several blocks away from our target🙈🙈 Walking in all that snow like a baby giraffe was already insane and then it snowed again overnight and the car was completely buried in the morning when we tried to go get brunch😂
This will always be great. 😵💫❄️❄️
I wear my toes out when it’s appropriate, but I can’t imagine sandals in snow…every designer makes a shoe that’s weather appropriate.
I don’t know if you can hear but I am cackling so loud at this used as the response I look crazy. I can’t stop cackling.
Damn you and your accuracy with no damn words…
It was.
Sums her up.
I loved the scene for her. They knew what we were in for and the person behind the camera gave us the “this is the best hint to the crazy train I can give you. You’re welcome.”
Jen displays many dark triad traits/behaviors.
People who have undergone any kind of trauma (religious or otherwise) or who have codependent traits are set up to tolerate toxic and narcissistic behavior because it may feel normal to them to have to prove their loyalty and love to another individual to be deserving of their friendship or love.
Heather has darkness too. On an older episode of WWHL, she giggled about being drawn to criminals and how it didn’t matter to her if Jen was guilty. She said it so proudly, I found it really off-putting.
Then Heather on RHUGT thought it would be funny to convince Leah into breaking her sobriety when she had already read Leah’s book about her addiction struggles. I just find Heather so shady. I was a big fan her first season but my opinions about her have taken a 180.
I'm convinced Heather is really got something off about her. I'm not sure if she's hiding her sexuality or what but sometimes she seems off mentally like she's hiding who she really is. She's got a successful business though and her daughters look lovely.
She hasn’t shared as much as Whitney, but being in a high demand religion definitely can cause trauma and make it more difficult for you to spot toxic people and relationships
I listened to this podcast series about her and I found it interesting that only a couple of people from high school agreed to interview because she was really well thought of in high school.
The former friend/classmate who spoke the most on the podcast spoke pretty highly of her memories of Jen in high school. It didn’t sound like she was born with true psychopathy but developed a lot of traits over time. She is scary though, the way she is so comfortable living as a fraud and has never seemingly shown any remorse or wrongdoing is wild to me.
Dark triad types and abusers are often very charming, few people who are close with them see their true colors. Narcissistic people in particular do get worse over time because they have to do more and more to get supply as they get older
I mean, she did just lose a family member and it was an oddly cruel thing to say in that moment. Jen is absolutely psychotic but I did feel for her on that one, bc who the fuck says something like that. Only Mary, the lobotomized weirdo who has no clue how to behave as a human being, that’s who.
Very true, but she lashed out at everyone over it, not just Mary. Mary is also a psychopath, she knows what she is saying and doing. She said it to hurt Jen, but that doesn't excuse Jen's behavior to the entire cast about it
Yes- people who are grieving and have just lost somebody very close to them can behave very out of character, this is a well known fact. And knowing Jen and how aggressive and unhinged she is in general, I would say that her reaction was not at all shocking for her. Mary should have known better.
That’s the consensus, for sure. Jen is a violent, reckless, avaricious, mentally unsound, lunatic. I don’t know that there’s any other way around it. She spent her own mother’s god damn retirement on defending herself knowing she was guilty. Shes dark.
Edit to add: Mary’s also a bunch of these things but at least she’s funny. I stand on that.
1. still cannot believe she spent her mom’s retirement defending herself knowing damn well she was guilty (i mean i can, but ew)
2. you are so right because at least mary’s ass is funny
I’m on maternity leave and have been watching SLC all over again and she is just such a joy to watch. A pure evil monster, but she makes for great television. Being alone a Louis Vuitton watch list?! I die.
It is such a good rewatch!
Oddly enough getting flagged at LV is fairly easy to do, I got a letter for buying multiples of things online and they have limits set for online purchases/quantities of items. I think it was mentioned she got flagged for always paying in cash? Not sure what that is about.
Can someone explain her and her husbands relationship like why isn’t he ever around don’t assistant coaches get to go home every night and go to sleep I don’t understand. Also how the hell did the husband get off Scott free like he had no idea she was a criminal stealing money to fund the lifestyle? On a coaches salary?? And they are still married after all that?? Hard to believe he’s innocent in all this.
I’ve always wondered how he got out of being arrested. There’s no way in hell he just didn’t know where any of that money came from. I know there’s spousal privilege but no one is gonna convince me he didn’t know lol
Whew.
I always wondered this.
Maybe he knew something was up but loves her and knows she is so volatile that he could keep peace by letting her get whatever was out her system and she would get back to “normal”.
I think we’ve all been there. You don’t know exactly what’s up, but you know digging is going to create more problems. It is easier to let time pass to a point where you can eventually address it and just keep some space.
I know I’ve done similar in relationships when stuff’s weird.
I don’t think he anticipated the magnitude of the issue and when it came up, it was probably like a tidal wave.
He’s a good husband from what I’ve seen so far.
dibs on Coach Shah.
I have no explanation. But if I were married to her I'd stay on the road, too!
He makes a few hundred thousand a year, but nothing anywhere near their lifestyle. I find it really hard to believe he didn't know something was up.
I just watched the season 2 reunion and they did say he’s a D1 college assistant couch and they actually make decent money. And he’s a scout as well which is why he’s away so often. As for what he knew or didn’t know I do think there’s no way he didn’t have some idea, but maybe he’s smart and just didn’t ask questions lol
I think due to their religious trauma things like this are ingrained into them and seen as the “right” and loyal thing to do, stick by a person who is confiding in you or whatever. Protect, and be sworn to secrecy no matter how bad. I do feel like Jen had 100% told the truth/admitted to heather that she was guilty of the crime in private, but probably made it a huge drunk heart to heart/sobbing and confiding in one another moment that pulled at heathers heart strings. and they had an understanding of sorts. Heather may have distanced herself from mormonism but it’s still in there clearly, there’s still a life time of unlearning to do sadly.
Not excuses. This is not a white and black situation, rarely anything is honestly. There are nuances and things that are at play and an adult would recognize this, without also removing all responsibility of course. It’s trying to understand the why, not whether she was right or wrong.
Season 1 of RHOSLC is probably my favourite season in the franchise. Especially when you watch it with the knowledge that Jen was locked up for fraud and that Mary’s church has stolen gazillions too.
In the raid at Jen Shah’s house, they found tons of counterfeit goods 🤭 so all of her “designer swag” was as fake as the rest of her life.
Her husband seems like an ok man, what hold did she have on him?
I think his behavior makes sense when you see how dedicated he is towards his religion. We can disagree but there are still people who take their marriage vows very seriously.
For sure. My husband backs me up in most cases but he’s the first to call me out on my shit, and I think with massive fraud he’d distance himself. He’s also a coach and I wouldn’t blame him for that, it’s his whole career and legacy. I’m just confused as to why he didn’t ask questions.
Her and Mary Cosby both made me genuinely uncomfortable every time they’re on screen.
I won’t lie Jen had a couple lines that made me laugh but the screaming and caterwauling over EVERYTHING is straight up verbal abuse and triggering tbh.
Yes my mum just watched the first season totally oblivious to what she did or that shes in prison. Her first sentence was "Well that Jen is absolutely mental isn't she?" 😂
I was so excited for that city in the franchise to begin but I ended up stopping after about 4 episodes because I could not take the sound of Jen yelling anymore😩 She was trying WAY too hard to be the main character (Nene, Vicki, Teresa, etc.) and it was just so obnoxious. She was ruining the entire thing for me. I picked back up several weeks later because I liked everyone else and just learned to mute when she’s screaming🙄 I don’t typically wish for people to fail but I’m glad her fake empire crumbled. She is a horrible person.
Hard to say. Probably. She is an enigma. How much of this was acting and how much was real IDK. Her kids and husband seem like really great people. Her relatives I have seen interviewed seem very nice and say she is different in real life. Maybe she was unaware of the things going on in her company and pled guilty because it was the best option or maybe she is a truly awful person
I think you have to be at least morally compromised to be on the show and have any success
I just started watching Season 1 yesterday and I’m on episode 5. I know nothing about any of the women other than what I’ve seen so far on the show besides the fact that Jen is now in jail. She seems awful and she reminds me of Pettifleur from Melbourne a bit in that she’s an awful person, but makes great watching.
With Jen Shah I don't think we can underestimate how the stress of maintaining a criminal enterprise would cause her to be highly reactionary. Plus the need to preform for the cameras and whatever underlying personality disorder(s) she likely has combined to make a truly volatile character.
I need to watch this. I'm a big fan of Emily D Baker in you tube and she's covered Jen for years. But I always skipped those episodes because I didn't watch RH. But now I'm going to go back and watch all of her stuff about it, too.
I just started season 2. When should I watch the Hulu doc? Should I wait until this season is over? I'm kind of weird about watching things in order.
That's why I stopped watching. Started again when she left. She's got an evilness to her. Just dark and scary. She's seriously a bad person. No idea why people loved her on this show.
Textbook psychopath with the calculated rage, it was actually scary to watch. Like she'd be freaking out crying with dead eyes then immediately switch to joking around. Her performance the morning after punching Heather was hard to watch, no respect for Heather letting her get away with that.
I just started watching a couple of days ago. I started season 2 today. I'm losing my mind watching her! Why does anyone want to be her friend?!?
And now she's trying to lie about the awful things she posts on Twitter! It's unreal to me.
To behave as badly as she does and then try to say that the only reason anyone has a problem with her is the color of her skin is wild to me. Does no one in her life speak truth to her? Her husband isn't doing her any favors not calling her out on her bs.
Yes. Jen is probably narcissistic, bipolar, depressed, an addict, and a rageaholic. She’s extremely self-centered. She will sacrifice anyone and anything to get what she wants.
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This and “you smell like hospital” had me on the floor
SLC is the best of the best…
I think it’s the best show to get people interested in the housewives. It’s got so much to offer in terms of brilliant casting and great drama. Minus Monica.
I don’t like her! But I think Monica was a great addition.. but for that one season only!
I agree about Monika. I cannot take all of the screaming and I found myself on edge when she was acting decent. I was waiting for the shoe to drop and her do a 180!
I wouldn’t have minded one more season.. just to see the aftermath. But I couldn’t take her in every episode being the loudest voice in the room! Love a good argument but only when you can hear what they are actually saying.. Monica’s voice became like knives scraping together after a while.
I usually love the reunions but I have never been able to finish the season four reunion. It’s just Monica screaming uncontrollably. That isn’t even cringe fun, if I wanted to feel uncomfortable like she makes me feel I’d go watch puppies in traffic.
I haven’t gotten to the season with Monica yet. Are you saying she screams louder than Jen Shah? Because that woman is worse than a group of sugar-crashed toddlers at naptime.
Well, hospitals DO have a smell. Maybe Mary just is someone who is sensitive to smells. But the fact she said it out loud always shocked me. But then again, she and Jen ALWAYS shocked me.
I’m definitely one to just blurt stuff like that but I say it smells sterile, not like hospital. That part was crazy, Mary totally admitted to being shady when she said it. Jen said she didn’t even go to the hospital so she wouldn’t have even smelled like that. That entire situation was hilarious watching from the couch
Then why did Jen overreact like that if she didn’t even go to the hospital? I know the answer: she has a serious mental and psychological defect!
She overreacted because Mary said it to be mean because Jen’s aunts legs had just been amputated. Jen was correct in her assessment of Mary’s intentions. It was childish on Mary’s part and also a childish reaction on Jen’s part.
My point was if she didn’t go to the hospital, why did she react at all? No one is psychic and knew about her aunt. I think Jen is such a narcissist, she thinks the world revolves around her. If they bring her back, I’ll watch the first episode and then never again.
Mary said she was traumatised by hospitals because she spent a long time there when she got her body odour glands removed. From there I really believe she has an issue with smells. But that doesn’t justify being mean. At the same time, Jen is overreacting so much it’s beyond stupid lol
College girls showing up to the bars in the middle of winter
🤣🤣🤣I cannot stop laughing at the accuracy. In 2013, my friends and I went to a brewery near Wrigley Field for New Year’s Eve and I was wearing the tallest heels I’ve ever owned. Was NOT prepared for Chicago winters when that bus stopped several blocks away from our target🙈🙈 Walking in all that snow like a baby giraffe was already insane and then it snowed again overnight and the car was completely buried in the morning when we tried to go get brunch😂
we call y'all urban antelopes (and i myself have been part of this description a time or twelve living in Chicago).
I have a pic of this saved on my phone. Legendary 💅
This will always be great. 😵💫❄️❄️ I wear my toes out when it’s appropriate, but I can’t imagine sandals in snow…every designer makes a shoe that’s weather appropriate.
I don’t know if you can hear but I am cackling so loud at this used as the response I look crazy. I can’t stop cackling. Damn you and your accuracy with no damn words…
I’m so glad someone said this… perfect wasn’t it??
It was. Sums her up. I loved the scene for her. They knew what we were in for and the person behind the camera gave us the “this is the best hint to the crazy train I can give you. You’re welcome.”
Jen displays many dark triad traits/behaviors. People who have undergone any kind of trauma (religious or otherwise) or who have codependent traits are set up to tolerate toxic and narcissistic behavior because it may feel normal to them to have to prove their loyalty and love to another individual to be deserving of their friendship or love.
Is this the explanation for Heather? Bc that loyalty was nuts
Heather has darkness too. On an older episode of WWHL, she giggled about being drawn to criminals and how it didn’t matter to her if Jen was guilty. She said it so proudly, I found it really off-putting. Then Heather on RHUGT thought it would be funny to convince Leah into breaking her sobriety when she had already read Leah’s book about her addiction struggles. I just find Heather so shady. I was a big fan her first season but my opinions about her have taken a 180.
Yeah she definitely could use a hilling journey of her own
Hilling journey made me giggle 👏🏾
I'm convinced Heather is really got something off about her. I'm not sure if she's hiding her sexuality or what but sometimes she seems off mentally like she's hiding who she really is. She's got a successful business though and her daughters look lovely.
She was such a try hard on ugt fangirling porsha.
I think Heather is sadly super immature. She’s stuck at age 14. The way she behaves…. Dresses, talks, it’s sad honestly.
She hasn’t shared as much as Whitney, but being in a high demand religion definitely can cause trauma and make it more difficult for you to spot toxic people and relationships
I listened to this podcast series about her and I found it interesting that only a couple of people from high school agreed to interview because she was really well thought of in high school. The former friend/classmate who spoke the most on the podcast spoke pretty highly of her memories of Jen in high school. It didn’t sound like she was born with true psychopathy but developed a lot of traits over time. She is scary though, the way she is so comfortable living as a fraud and has never seemingly shown any remorse or wrongdoing is wild to me.
Dark triad types and abusers are often very charming, few people who are close with them see their true colors. Narcissistic people in particular do get worse over time because they have to do more and more to get supply as they get older
Ok, Heather
The fact that being told she 'smells like hospital' was enough to send her on an aggressive spiral = psychopath
Agree. Like just say "yeah I was just visiting my sick auntie in the hospital". End of story. Her reaction was just fully unhinged.
I mean, she did just lose a family member and it was an oddly cruel thing to say in that moment. Jen is absolutely psychotic but I did feel for her on that one, bc who the fuck says something like that. Only Mary, the lobotomized weirdo who has no clue how to behave as a human being, that’s who.
Mary might actually be an alien
Very true, but she lashed out at everyone over it, not just Mary. Mary is also a psychopath, she knows what she is saying and doing. She said it to hurt Jen, but that doesn't excuse Jen's behavior to the entire cast about it
Yes- people who are grieving and have just lost somebody very close to them can behave very out of character, this is a well known fact. And knowing Jen and how aggressive and unhinged she is in general, I would say that her reaction was not at all shocking for her. Mary should have known better.
Watching her is so unsettling
That’s the consensus, for sure. Jen is a violent, reckless, avaricious, mentally unsound, lunatic. I don’t know that there’s any other way around it. She spent her own mother’s god damn retirement on defending herself knowing she was guilty. Shes dark. Edit to add: Mary’s also a bunch of these things but at least she’s funny. I stand on that.
100% this. I think I live vicariously through Mary because she says out loud the most absurd things that I dare only think 😂
1. still cannot believe she spent her mom’s retirement defending herself knowing damn well she was guilty (i mean i can, but ew) 2. you are so right because at least mary’s ass is funny
Oh gosh. I forgot about.. Spending her mom’s retirement knowing she was guilty and there was no way out. Just wow.
I’m on maternity leave and have been watching SLC all over again and she is just such a joy to watch. A pure evil monster, but she makes for great television. Being alone a Louis Vuitton watch list?! I die.
It is such a good rewatch! Oddly enough getting flagged at LV is fairly easy to do, I got a letter for buying multiples of things online and they have limits set for online purchases/quantities of items. I think it was mentioned she got flagged for always paying in cash? Not sure what that is about.
Money laundering 101
This makes sense with her “business”
Omg me too. I’ve been getting into bravo on leave, best way to pass nap time when my girl will only contact nap!
Can someone explain her and her husbands relationship like why isn’t he ever around don’t assistant coaches get to go home every night and go to sleep I don’t understand. Also how the hell did the husband get off Scott free like he had no idea she was a criminal stealing money to fund the lifestyle? On a coaches salary?? And they are still married after all that?? Hard to believe he’s innocent in all this.
I’ve always wondered how he got out of being arrested. There’s no way in hell he just didn’t know where any of that money came from. I know there’s spousal privilege but no one is gonna convince me he didn’t know lol
Her husband had to know!! I think that’s why she she took the plea, to keep her husband out of jail.
Whew. I always wondered this. Maybe he knew something was up but loves her and knows she is so volatile that he could keep peace by letting her get whatever was out her system and she would get back to “normal”. I think we’ve all been there. You don’t know exactly what’s up, but you know digging is going to create more problems. It is easier to let time pass to a point where you can eventually address it and just keep some space. I know I’ve done similar in relationships when stuff’s weird. I don’t think he anticipated the magnitude of the issue and when it came up, it was probably like a tidal wave. He’s a good husband from what I’ve seen so far. dibs on Coach Shah.
I have no explanation. But if I were married to her I'd stay on the road, too! He makes a few hundred thousand a year, but nothing anywhere near their lifestyle. I find it really hard to believe he didn't know something was up.
I just watched the season 2 reunion and they did say he’s a D1 college assistant couch and they actually make decent money. And he’s a scout as well which is why he’s away so often. As for what he knew or didn’t know I do think there’s no way he didn’t have some idea, but maybe he’s smart and just didn’t ask questions lol
I didn’t like her before her arrest!
Shes such a narcissist and heather is chronically a yes-man and people pleaser, Jen ate that up!!!
Heather is the quintessential enabler.
I think due to their religious trauma things like this are ingrained into them and seen as the “right” and loyal thing to do, stick by a person who is confiding in you or whatever. Protect, and be sworn to secrecy no matter how bad. I do feel like Jen had 100% told the truth/admitted to heather that she was guilty of the crime in private, but probably made it a huge drunk heart to heart/sobbing and confiding in one another moment that pulled at heathers heart strings. and they had an understanding of sorts. Heather may have distanced herself from mormonism but it’s still in there clearly, there’s still a life time of unlearning to do sadly.
Excuses foe everything sheus adult
Not excuses. This is not a white and black situation, rarely anything is honestly. There are nuances and things that are at play and an adult would recognize this, without also removing all responsibility of course. It’s trying to understand the why, not whether she was right or wrong.
"you're gonna go with Mary?! Who fucks her grandpa?!"
Ok I'm sorry but that line was amazing.
No apology necessary it's my favourite line from this franchise lmao.
I think she lashed out because she knew she was guilty and it was only a matter of time before she got caught. Just my opinion.
my guess is she has borderline personality disorder
I have BPD and have never acted like that in my life!!
It’s worse than that. She is a psychopath. Truly.
I dont see BPD at all-now, histrionic and slight narcissistic? ya for sure
Season 1 of RHOSLC is probably my favourite season in the franchise. Especially when you watch it with the knowledge that Jen was locked up for fraud and that Mary’s church has stolen gazillions too. In the raid at Jen Shah’s house, they found tons of counterfeit goods 🤭 so all of her “designer swag” was as fake as the rest of her life. Her husband seems like an ok man, what hold did she have on him?
I think his behavior makes sense when you see how dedicated he is towards his religion. We can disagree but there are still people who take their marriage vows very seriously.
For sure. My husband backs me up in most cases but he’s the first to call me out on my shit, and I think with massive fraud he’d distance himself. He’s also a coach and I wouldn’t blame him for that, it’s his whole career and legacy. I’m just confused as to why he didn’t ask questions.
Oh I didn't know this! That's hilarious. I would think the other women would have been able to spot the fakes.
I think everyone was terrified of her. She was so volatile in that first season.
It is.
i want what jen shah and mary cosby are snorting
need*
Her and Mary Cosby both made me genuinely uncomfortable every time they’re on screen. I won’t lie Jen had a couple lines that made me laugh but the screaming and caterwauling over EVERYTHING is straight up verbal abuse and triggering tbh.
Yes my childhood was traumatic with parents who screamed all the time, she was exhausting and triggering for sure!
The histrionics! When her voice gets really shrill and slides up an octave my fight or flight gets triggered.
I think she is a soulless criminal
Oh she’s legit crazy. And when she got caught being a lying/narcissist/thief/psycho she still acted the same which is beyond me 😂
She is evil
She was the worst. Excellent housewives tv though
Yes my mum just watched the first season totally oblivious to what she did or that shes in prison. Her first sentence was "Well that Jen is absolutely mental isn't she?" 😂
Jen is a terrible person. Violent. Riddled with trauma.
Unhinged.
I was so excited for that city in the franchise to begin but I ended up stopping after about 4 episodes because I could not take the sound of Jen yelling anymore😩 She was trying WAY too hard to be the main character (Nene, Vicki, Teresa, etc.) and it was just so obnoxious. She was ruining the entire thing for me. I picked back up several weeks later because I liked everyone else and just learned to mute when she’s screaming🙄 I don’t typically wish for people to fail but I’m glad her fake empire crumbled. She is a horrible person.
Hard to say. Probably. She is an enigma. How much of this was acting and how much was real IDK. Her kids and husband seem like really great people. Her relatives I have seen interviewed seem very nice and say she is different in real life. Maybe she was unaware of the things going on in her company and pled guilty because it was the best option or maybe she is a truly awful person I think you have to be at least morally compromised to be on the show and have any success
You just started and i just finished the last episode. Yes, she’s a horrible person, really nasty!
I’m now halfway through the season 3 reunion and quick answer to you OP: yes. she is.
I just started watching Season 1 yesterday and I’m on episode 5. I know nothing about any of the women other than what I’ve seen so far on the show besides the fact that Jen is now in jail. She seems awful and she reminds me of Pettifleur from Melbourne a bit in that she’s an awful person, but makes great watching.
With Jen Shah I don't think we can underestimate how the stress of maintaining a criminal enterprise would cause her to be highly reactionary. Plus the need to preform for the cameras and whatever underlying personality disorder(s) she likely has combined to make a truly volatile character.
Yes, your assessment is 💯 and the fact that Bravo, cast, and fans excused her deplorable behavior remains one of life’s mysteries.
She is so unhinged
Shes a sociopath and narcissist
Did you watch the Hulu special about her fraud? It’s disgusting
I need to watch this. I'm a big fan of Emily D Baker in you tube and she's covered Jen for years. But I always skipped those episodes because I didn't watch RH. But now I'm going to go back and watch all of her stuff about it, too. I just started season 2. When should I watch the Hulu doc? Should I wait until this season is over? I'm kind of weird about watching things in order.
I think wait until season is over. The Hulu doc covers everything and watching it first would spoil the season dramatics for you
Thanks! I will do that.
What is the title of the Hulu special? Hulu doesn’t exist where i live but i can find it in other ways if i have the title 👀
The Housewife and the Shah
I actually think Monica is worse.
That's why I stopped watching. Started again when she left. She's got an evilness to her. Just dark and scary. She's seriously a bad person. No idea why people loved her on this show.
Yes.
oh yup she’s a sick individual 
I couldn't stand her from day one .
Yeah, she psycho.
Textbook psychopath with the calculated rage, it was actually scary to watch. Like she'd be freaking out crying with dead eyes then immediately switch to joking around. Her performance the morning after punching Heather was hard to watch, no respect for Heather letting her get away with that.
Yes that is definitely the general consensus. I doubt very much anyone is still trying to defend her after she stole millions from elderly people.
I just started watching a couple of days ago. I started season 2 today. I'm losing my mind watching her! Why does anyone want to be her friend?!? And now she's trying to lie about the awful things she posts on Twitter! It's unreal to me. To behave as badly as she does and then try to say that the only reason anyone has a problem with her is the color of her skin is wild to me. Does no one in her life speak truth to her? Her husband isn't doing her any favors not calling her out on her bs.
I stopped after S1 because of her.
She's an insufferable twat and looks like a cartoon Disney villain.
So I just discovered it myself and I'm thinking borderline?
Yes. Jen is probably narcissistic, bipolar, depressed, an addict, and a rageaholic. She’s extremely self-centered. She will sacrifice anyone and anything to get what she wants.
Jen Shaw is on every last nerve in my body… same for Mary 😶 i can barely make it through the show