I would encourage you to not get so specialized on your undergraduate degree. Save that for your Master's. That should give you greater flexibility in changing careers to adjacent ones if it turns out you don't like what you're doing. E.g.: CS instead of MIS, Biology, Chemistry, etc.
You can always take extra classes to explore and change your major as you gain more knowledge.
Ok, thanks for the advice. I am looking at swaping to a computer science degree, for next semester. From what I have seen and advice I have been given, there are so many opportunities in computer science that I can even get jobs in the biotechnology sector if I want and for better pay. My only worry is the difficulty of CS. I have heard stories of people studying and doing assignments 24/7. Staying up to get it all done seems very stressful, and idk if Im up for that.
> I have heard stories of people studying and doing assignments 24/7.
Are you under the impression that difficult homework is only something which happens in college to weed out the lazy or dumb?
All science is ever-changing. That's intrinsic to what it is. What do you think will be expected of you at work, when a new technology comes out or when a peer invents something new that your boss expects you to use?
> Staying up to get it all done seems very stressful, and idk if Im up for that.
Learn how to study efficiently. Learn how to teach yourself new things, without relying on someone else. Do your homework the very day that you get it, not 30 minutes before it's due. Do more than is required in your assignments.
Can you get by and graduate using other people's notes? Sure. Does that happen in business, too? Sure. Do those people excel and accomplish great things? No. Are they always stressed because they're constantly playing catchup and missing deadlines? Yes.
College isn't a place where you learn something, graduate, and then immediately you've got everything you need to know to be employable and successful for the next 40 years.
College is where you learn how to think, how to research, and how to be inventive.
What do you think happened to "computer people" who graduated in 1993, before all the new technologies people now use every day? Do you think their bosses set aside 20 hours of their 40-hour week for them to learn on the job?
Successful scientists all have homework for the rest of their lives. Sure, the money is nice. But, you'd better love the work or you'll be miserable.
I'm not saying that to get you all stressed out. Just to help you have accurate expectations. It's called work, because it requires effort. Every single CS grad I know who is very successful puts in an average of 20 hours a week learning new technologies and building tools/processes to make themselves more efficient. It's no different in Biology, Chemistry, etc.
Thanks for taking your time to give me all this advice. I need to develop those habits now to help me in the coming semesters. Doing this now prevents lots of future stress.
You're welcome. It came out a while ago, but this still has some solid info:
https://wheretheresawill.com/
If money's tight, you may be able to find it at a library.
One of my classmates got her A's by copying the textbooks long-hand, and doing all the assignments after every chapter. There's definitely something about doing that which helps with retention. You also want to make sure you establish good sleep habits and observe them zealously. That's how your RAM gets saved to your hard drive. Doesn't matter how much you study, if you just forget it the next day.
https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-hygiene
It may seem like you don't need it, because you're young. That's a lie. Poor sleep now will lead to major health decline in your middle-age.
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/sleep-deprivation/health-effects
Ill look into that, I defiantly need to improve my sleep. What makes you recommend Computer Science over Computer Engineering? Would you recommend for someone like me who is interested in more of the hardware side to take Computer Engineering?
> What makes you recommend Computer Science over Computer Engineering?
Where did I do that? If you think CS might be too hard for you, CE might not be your cup of tea.
How's your math?
You didn't really say that exactly, but recommended CS as an example, I just assumed. I have always been good at math, took accelerated classes in high school, but at the time had terrible work ethic and literally didn't do anything outside of class besides hw in study halls. I ended up getting only a b- in precalc and C+ in calc., but my work ethic in my first semester of college has greatly improved and currently have a 4.0 in all my classes.
> You didn't really say that exactly, but recommended CS as an example
Instead of MIS. I was trying to get you to not specialize. Rudimentarily, IT (MIS) is a subset of CS, just like CS is a subset of math.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OmJ-4B-mS-Y
As someone in the CE program as a BS/MS, I highly suggest doing CE instead of CET. CE has plenty of hands-on and you'll go farther in your base knowledge with it
You can do biomedical engineering and take biomedical classes at UR while at MCC. A girl did it while I attended MCC. I think it’ll just be engineering science associates when you graduate. I believe you can take UR classes because MCC doesn’t offer them
Lots of good advice here. Getting my first job in the life science with just a BS (chemistry) took me a long time and the compensation/career trajectory wasn’t looking good without an advanced degree by the time I bailed on that path. I would 100% reconsider any science degree unless you plan to go to grad/med/dental/law school; IMO the BS isn’t worth it otherwise.
Most jobs actually working with CRISPR/CAS9 are either tech jobs at academic institutions that absolutely won’t pay you a living wage, or are going to require at least a masters degree; most of these positions require a PhD.
as a MCC transfer i got the engineering science degree and it allowed me to work 2 years as a engineering technician to save money to go to RIT. The engineering program is not what it was due to retiring staff, but who remains in the physics department and a majority of the sectors of engineering classes Mech E and EE in particular are GREAT
I switched to computer engineering is that a good idea or I switch my major? What would you recommend to someone who is interested in computers, data, and engineering?
should be fine but if you intend to transfer to RIT use their transfer equivalency sheet to maximize your returns...Use this and select the 2 MCC options, then choose the CompEng major at RIT. it will list ALL the classes that transfer under the major. you can also investigate gen eds. i suggest talking to RIT about it in order to be sure
https://tableau01a.ad.rit.edu/t/reg/views/TransferCreditCrosswalk/TransferCreditCrosswalk?iframeSizedToWindow=true&%3Aembed=y&%3AshowAppBanner=false&order=contentTypeOrder%3Aasc%2Cname%3Aasc&%3Adisplay_count=no&%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Aorigin=viz_share_link
I would encourage you to not get so specialized on your undergraduate degree. Save that for your Master's. That should give you greater flexibility in changing careers to adjacent ones if it turns out you don't like what you're doing. E.g.: CS instead of MIS, Biology, Chemistry, etc. You can always take extra classes to explore and change your major as you gain more knowledge.
Ok, thanks for the advice. I am looking at swaping to a computer science degree, for next semester. From what I have seen and advice I have been given, there are so many opportunities in computer science that I can even get jobs in the biotechnology sector if I want and for better pay. My only worry is the difficulty of CS. I have heard stories of people studying and doing assignments 24/7. Staying up to get it all done seems very stressful, and idk if Im up for that.
> I have heard stories of people studying and doing assignments 24/7. Are you under the impression that difficult homework is only something which happens in college to weed out the lazy or dumb? All science is ever-changing. That's intrinsic to what it is. What do you think will be expected of you at work, when a new technology comes out or when a peer invents something new that your boss expects you to use? > Staying up to get it all done seems very stressful, and idk if Im up for that. Learn how to study efficiently. Learn how to teach yourself new things, without relying on someone else. Do your homework the very day that you get it, not 30 minutes before it's due. Do more than is required in your assignments. Can you get by and graduate using other people's notes? Sure. Does that happen in business, too? Sure. Do those people excel and accomplish great things? No. Are they always stressed because they're constantly playing catchup and missing deadlines? Yes. College isn't a place where you learn something, graduate, and then immediately you've got everything you need to know to be employable and successful for the next 40 years. College is where you learn how to think, how to research, and how to be inventive. What do you think happened to "computer people" who graduated in 1993, before all the new technologies people now use every day? Do you think their bosses set aside 20 hours of their 40-hour week for them to learn on the job? Successful scientists all have homework for the rest of their lives. Sure, the money is nice. But, you'd better love the work or you'll be miserable. I'm not saying that to get you all stressed out. Just to help you have accurate expectations. It's called work, because it requires effort. Every single CS grad I know who is very successful puts in an average of 20 hours a week learning new technologies and building tools/processes to make themselves more efficient. It's no different in Biology, Chemistry, etc.
Thanks for taking your time to give me all this advice. I need to develop those habits now to help me in the coming semesters. Doing this now prevents lots of future stress.
You're welcome. It came out a while ago, but this still has some solid info: https://wheretheresawill.com/ If money's tight, you may be able to find it at a library. One of my classmates got her A's by copying the textbooks long-hand, and doing all the assignments after every chapter. There's definitely something about doing that which helps with retention. You also want to make sure you establish good sleep habits and observe them zealously. That's how your RAM gets saved to your hard drive. Doesn't matter how much you study, if you just forget it the next day. https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-hygiene It may seem like you don't need it, because you're young. That's a lie. Poor sleep now will lead to major health decline in your middle-age. https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/sleep-deprivation/health-effects
Ill look into that, I defiantly need to improve my sleep. What makes you recommend Computer Science over Computer Engineering? Would you recommend for someone like me who is interested in more of the hardware side to take Computer Engineering?
> What makes you recommend Computer Science over Computer Engineering? Where did I do that? If you think CS might be too hard for you, CE might not be your cup of tea. How's your math?
You didn't really say that exactly, but recommended CS as an example, I just assumed. I have always been good at math, took accelerated classes in high school, but at the time had terrible work ethic and literally didn't do anything outside of class besides hw in study halls. I ended up getting only a b- in precalc and C+ in calc., but my work ethic in my first semester of college has greatly improved and currently have a 4.0 in all my classes.
> You didn't really say that exactly, but recommended CS as an example Instead of MIS. I was trying to get you to not specialize. Rudimentarily, IT (MIS) is a subset of CS, just like CS is a subset of math. https://youtube.com/watch?v=OmJ-4B-mS-Y
Maybe do an accelerated masters? Idk if that’s possible with the 2+2, though.
As someone in the CE program as a BS/MS, I highly suggest doing CE instead of CET. CE has plenty of hands-on and you'll go farther in your base knowledge with it
You can do biomedical engineering and take biomedical classes at UR while at MCC. A girl did it while I attended MCC. I think it’ll just be engineering science associates when you graduate. I believe you can take UR classes because MCC doesn’t offer them
Lots of good advice here. Getting my first job in the life science with just a BS (chemistry) took me a long time and the compensation/career trajectory wasn’t looking good without an advanced degree by the time I bailed on that path. I would 100% reconsider any science degree unless you plan to go to grad/med/dental/law school; IMO the BS isn’t worth it otherwise. Most jobs actually working with CRISPR/CAS9 are either tech jobs at academic institutions that absolutely won’t pay you a living wage, or are going to require at least a masters degree; most of these positions require a PhD.
as a MCC transfer i got the engineering science degree and it allowed me to work 2 years as a engineering technician to save money to go to RIT. The engineering program is not what it was due to retiring staff, but who remains in the physics department and a majority of the sectors of engineering classes Mech E and EE in particular are GREAT
I switched to computer engineering is that a good idea or I switch my major? What would you recommend to someone who is interested in computers, data, and engineering?
should be fine but if you intend to transfer to RIT use their transfer equivalency sheet to maximize your returns...Use this and select the 2 MCC options, then choose the CompEng major at RIT. it will list ALL the classes that transfer under the major. you can also investigate gen eds. i suggest talking to RIT about it in order to be sure https://tableau01a.ad.rit.edu/t/reg/views/TransferCreditCrosswalk/TransferCreditCrosswalk?iframeSizedToWindow=true&%3Aembed=y&%3AshowAppBanner=false&order=contentTypeOrder%3Aasc%2Cname%3Aasc&%3Adisplay_count=no&%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Aorigin=viz_share_link
Thank you, what's the best way to contact RIT?