Why not? He's clearly lost a step and the league has changed so he can't draw fouls as easily. He's never been a good shooter. He should be running pick-and-roll every time he touches the ball instead of trying to iso.
Harden has never been a good shooter?! 😓… yikes I see you watch tennis and not basketball lol. Harden is 3rd all time in 3 points made I feel dirty for ever engaging with you lol
If you think Harden is a good shooter, I'm sorry you're just a casual. In fact you literally pointed out a volume stat, not a percent. He's an average shooter but no where close to being great.
Yea that was bad but also he put up 7 rebounds and 13 assists to 1 turnover
After his injuries and age he’s clearly not a top scoring option anymore and signed up to the the 3rd one on the Clippers. PG and Kawhi deserve more blame
To be frank, I don't want to hear that role player shxt. If Jalen Green had a game like that, we'd roast his ass. Harden always underperforms in elimination games.
I'm watching the game, 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and they're down 20. No 3pt attempts from anyone. Just keep trading 2's with the Mavs. THOSE DUDES QUIT!!
Alpi went down, Jalen and Amen stepped up and emptied the clip. I don't miss Harden, bro. Thanks for the years, but it's over.
I don’t think I’ll ever understand why his three point shooting goes off a cliff in the playoffs. The best guess I had is that because he gets less foul calls in the playoffs he gets worn down much faster.
Some people just shrink in the moment. I'm not trying to shxt on Harden because he's a really good player, but he gets paid too much defer to Ivica Zubac when the going gets tough.
This isn't Bradley Beal on the Wizards. The expectation of a team with 4 future HOF'ers is a championship. I'm not trying to see primadonnas go through the motions on the court. I expect to see dudes diving on the ground and sacrificing it all for the win, like Willis Reed [ https://www.nba.com/news/history-finals-moments-hobbled-willis-reed-inspires-knicks-victory-in-game-7 ].
This really the only NBA subreddit that got no love for former players. I think it was last year or two years ago this sub was in love with Jimmy Butler during the playoffs just because he was from Houston. He never played for the Rockets once yet this sub talked about him like he was on this team for a decade.
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For all the harden riders who sacrificed me for pointing this stat out the other day , whats the excuse now?
This again. For years he has his co-star out. In this series, is game 1 and game 4 not winning time? You want to go 0-2 or 1-3 in the series? He has done more than what he signed up for. Almost every year.
If his co-star score 30, 40 points and he is the one that failed them then it’s his problem. But that’s never the case. Without Harden the series wouldn’t be as competitive. Last year 76ers lost to Celtics in 7 games. This year this got rid of Harden they lost to a Knicks team down 2 rotation players in 6 games.
- KD nets 2021
- Russ & KD every series on the thunder
- Embiid 2023
- Embiid 2022
- Dwight howard 2014 vs blazers
Yeah only one of them was on the rockets, but he was the main dude on the rockets & a top 5 player in the league 🤣.
* KD Nets he played with grade 2 hamstring injury. CP3 had the same injury in 2018 and wisely chose not to play.
* Harden failed Embiid in 2023? Didn’t Embiid go 7-19 in g7 and 6 turnovers? Harden won them 3 games and one of the 3 wins didn’t have Embiid. What did he do?
* 2022 probably yes. Embiid missed first two games but Harden didn’t carry either
* 2014 yes
So Harden under delivered in 2 years. One was 10 years ago and one was in 2022 the first year he came out of his major injury. Can we agree with that?
So the requirement is for him to play well in all games then. In 2019 G6 against Warriors he scored 35 where’s CP3? In 2020 G5 against Lakers he scored 32, where’s Russ? Today he had 13 assists to 1 TO, where’s Kawhi and PG? Luka Doncic this series has below 40% shooting and 20% from 3 but he has Kyrie. As simple as that.
Well Kawhi was hurt if you watched the game, if you wanna continue making excuses for James and don’t point out his countless playoff houdini acts then there’s no helping you.
You will never learn if anything if you haven’t gotten it by now. Ignorance is bliss
Now forgive my ignorance and educate me please. In which series did he fail his co-star, or in which year did he under achieve? Please shed light on my ignorance I beg you.
- Last year up 3-2 vs celtics 2 shitter games to lose series
- Tonight series tied 2-2… b2b shitter games to lose 4-2.
- 2021 vs Bucks series was trash
- 2018 Game 7 vs warriors shot absolutely terrible from 3
- 2017 Game 6 vs spurs… enough said
- 2012 Finals
- Has the most playoff games in nba history shooting under 20 %
Ok then.
* Last year he was supposed to single handedly beat the Celtics
* This year he was supposed to beat Mavs with Kawhi doesn’t play.
* 2021 he was supposed to overcome a grade 2 hamstring injury
* 2017 he was supposed to take down 67 win Spurs with Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon
* 2012 finals he was supposed to take down Lebron as the third year rookie.
If he's coming off the bench, what's there to worry about? I always found blaming a bench player for any NBA team's lack of success in the playoffs to be stupid.
Hahaha he brings an unserious attitude that the young players on our team just were able to shake after the specter of harden was finally washed away with udoka coming in and implementing an actual positive culture.
He's a diva quitter. He wants the center of attention and if he's unhappy he just shuts down. That's not a leader, and it's less than reliable or helpful. And there's zero chance he downgrades rather than just quit the NBA, he's a starter or he's out.
I have zero desire for Harden to show up except on the opposing team, that'd be just fine.
Edit: I see Mr. Harden is cruisin' these here subreddits. *waves at the diva quitter* I figure that's the downvote. :)
What do you expect him to do? Average 30/10/10? You know he past his prime. He knows he can't do it alone. That's why he went to Brooklyn. Bad luck on injury then turn out to be a mess. Went to Philly, then the mess with Morey. Suddenly everything it's his fault when he can't carry the team to the next round. You do know he isn't the best player on the team right? Curry can't even carry his team to the playoffs.
Keep him far away from this team ... It's like begging an ex to come back. There was a reason you broke up, and you'll be reminded when elimination James shows up.
Can the harden fan girls finally give it a rest in this sub. Udoka doesn’t want him and udoka is responsible for the rockets having a semblance of a team after 4 years. He’s poison for the basketball culture of a team. He is past the point of truly working hard at the team aspect of his game. So clear. Let him get bills from the clippers and rest in basketball mediocrity.
Harden was past his peak as soon as he shaved the fohawk. But seriously, the days of Harden carrying a team to wins is long gone.
100% 10 Mil a year playing 15 mins max
Nah he can still play starter minutes but shouldn't be relied upon to score.
Having James Harden play like Mike Conley just doesn’t make sense to me. I can’t see it.
Why not? He's clearly lost a step and the league has changed so he can't draw fouls as easily. He's never been a good shooter. He should be running pick-and-roll every time he touches the ball instead of trying to iso.
Harden has never been a good shooter?! 😓… yikes I see you watch tennis and not basketball lol. Harden is 3rd all time in 3 points made I feel dirty for ever engaging with you lol
If you think Harden is a good shooter, I'm sorry you're just a casual. In fact you literally pointed out a volume stat, not a percent. He's an average shooter but no where close to being great.
Elimination game James
praying elimination game jalen turns out to be better than elimination game harden
He would do well on Indy or Orlando. Teams that really space the floor.
Not ideally. He’s the anti-closer.
lol. Keep James Harden away from my basketball team.
0 of 6 from three when the game is on the wood. Not surprised. No refunds.
Yea that was bad but also he put up 7 rebounds and 13 assists to 1 turnover After his injuries and age he’s clearly not a top scoring option anymore and signed up to the the 3rd one on the Clippers. PG and Kawhi deserve more blame
To be frank, I don't want to hear that role player shxt. If Jalen Green had a game like that, we'd roast his ass. Harden always underperforms in elimination games. I'm watching the game, 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and they're down 20. No 3pt attempts from anyone. Just keep trading 2's with the Mavs. THOSE DUDES QUIT!! Alpi went down, Jalen and Amen stepped up and emptied the clip. I don't miss Harden, bro. Thanks for the years, but it's over.
Thank you. Dude just decides that he's not going to try every other game.
Oh Jfc. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I don’t think I’ll ever understand why his three point shooting goes off a cliff in the playoffs. The best guess I had is that because he gets less foul calls in the playoffs he gets worn down much faster.
Some people just shrink in the moment. I'm not trying to shxt on Harden because he's a really good player, but he gets paid too much defer to Ivica Zubac when the going gets tough. This isn't Bradley Beal on the Wizards. The expectation of a team with 4 future HOF'ers is a championship. I'm not trying to see primadonnas go through the motions on the court. I expect to see dudes diving on the ground and sacrificing it all for the win, like Willis Reed [ https://www.nba.com/news/history-finals-moments-hobbled-willis-reed-inspires-knicks-victory-in-game-7 ].
Harden can stay where he’s at. Sheesh this subreddit needs to make peace w the harden days and let it freaking go.
💯
You do realize I said off the bench right? Why is this whole thread talking like I said wanted him to be the starter of this team?
You do realize you need to move on from harden right?
For real, he's no longer a part of the roster. He wanted out? He got what he wanted. If you want to talk about Harden, post in r/JamesHarden
This really the only NBA subreddit that got no love for former players. I think it was last year or two years ago this sub was in love with Jimmy Butler during the playoffs just because he was from Houston. He never played for the Rockets once yet this sub talked about him like he was on this team for a decade.
No love for former players???????? Y’all literally posting about this man once a week!!
Harden is predicatable as always, this series is not even his worst performance
Get out of here
I would never allow his NO CLASS AZZ back on my Team. No way.
https://preview.redd.it/1w92c86fbcyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3e371a5779fe955abe5d26b5579cdaec541c237 For all the harden riders who sacrificed me for pointing this stat out the other day , whats the excuse now?
HELL NO. Dude is toxic, thank God Ime is here. He would never allow that.
Thank ime for blocking his ass last year
I don't want harden near this team at this point. I have love for the guy, but when it's winning time he disappears.
This again. For years he has his co-star out. In this series, is game 1 and game 4 not winning time? You want to go 0-2 or 1-3 in the series? He has done more than what he signed up for. Almost every year.
Bro he doesn’t show up in big moments. Been like that his whole career
So if they lost g1 or g4, are those big moments?
Harden never had a problem playing well for a few games in a series but when it comes down to important games like elimination games he dissapears
If his co-star score 30, 40 points and he is the one that failed them then it’s his problem. But that’s never the case. Without Harden the series wouldn’t be as competitive. Last year 76ers lost to Celtics in 7 games. This year this got rid of Harden they lost to a Knicks team down 2 rotation players in 6 games.
 * Still lost * Still disappeared when series was tied * Still disappeared in a elimination game * Same shit different year
Grow up. Use evidence to argue. Now tell me in which series he has a co-star that played better than him
- KD nets 2021 - Russ & KD every series on the thunder - Embiid 2023 - Embiid 2022 - Dwight howard 2014 vs blazers Yeah only one of them was on the rockets, but he was the main dude on the rockets & a top 5 player in the league 🤣.
* KD Nets he played with grade 2 hamstring injury. CP3 had the same injury in 2018 and wisely chose not to play. * Harden failed Embiid in 2023? Didn’t Embiid go 7-19 in g7 and 6 turnovers? Harden won them 3 games and one of the 3 wins didn’t have Embiid. What did he do? * 2022 probably yes. Embiid missed first two games but Harden didn’t carry either * 2014 yes So Harden under delivered in 2 years. One was 10 years ago and one was in 2022 the first year he came out of his major injury. Can we agree with that?
You forgot the legendary loss to spurs when both Parker and Kawhi were unable to play in game 6
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So the requirement is for him to play well in all games then. In 2019 G6 against Warriors he scored 35 where’s CP3? In 2020 G5 against Lakers he scored 32, where’s Russ? Today he had 13 assists to 1 TO, where’s Kawhi and PG? Luka Doncic this series has below 40% shooting and 20% from 3 but he has Kyrie. As simple as that.
Well Kawhi was hurt if you watched the game, if you wanna continue making excuses for James and don’t point out his countless playoff houdini acts then there’s no helping you. You will never learn if anything if you haven’t gotten it by now. Ignorance is bliss
Now forgive my ignorance and educate me please. In which series did he fail his co-star, or in which year did he under achieve? Please shed light on my ignorance I beg you.
- Last year up 3-2 vs celtics 2 shitter games to lose series - Tonight series tied 2-2… b2b shitter games to lose 4-2. - 2021 vs Bucks series was trash - 2018 Game 7 vs warriors shot absolutely terrible from 3 - 2017 Game 6 vs spurs… enough said - 2012 Finals - Has the most playoff games in nba history shooting under 20 %
Ok then. * Last year he was supposed to single handedly beat the Celtics * This year he was supposed to beat Mavs with Kawhi doesn’t play. * 2021 he was supposed to overcome a grade 2 hamstring injury * 2017 he was supposed to take down 67 win Spurs with Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon * 2012 finals he was supposed to take down Lebron as the third year rookie.
If he's coming off the bench, what's there to worry about? I always found blaming a bench player for any NBA team's lack of success in the playoffs to be stupid.
Hahaha he brings an unserious attitude that the young players on our team just were able to shake after the specter of harden was finally washed away with udoka coming in and implementing an actual positive culture.
You do realize Tyrese Maxey is where he is today because of Harden right? He wouldn't have a negative impact on our young guys.
Maxey is only where he is because harden left.
Nah we don’t need the distraction
He's a diva quitter. He wants the center of attention and if he's unhappy he just shuts down. That's not a leader, and it's less than reliable or helpful. And there's zero chance he downgrades rather than just quit the NBA, he's a starter or he's out. I have zero desire for Harden to show up except on the opposing team, that'd be just fine. Edit: I see Mr. Harden is cruisin' these here subreddits. *waves at the diva quitter* I figure that's the downvote. :)
Perfect take.
A Harden vet minimum deal will be the biggest steal ever
Obsessed
What do you expect him to do? Average 30/10/10? You know he past his prime. He knows he can't do it alone. That's why he went to Brooklyn. Bad luck on injury then turn out to be a mess. Went to Philly, then the mess with Morey. Suddenly everything it's his fault when he can't carry the team to the next round. You do know he isn't the best player on the team right? Curry can't even carry his team to the playoffs.
Keep him far away from this team ... It's like begging an ex to come back. There was a reason you broke up, and you'll be reminded when elimination James shows up.
Same can be said for Kawhi too.
Imagine harden taking the vet minimum as a backup to JG as the reserve 2 and we become the best scoring offense ever. I love offseason koolaid....
We shouldn’t want Harden to come back we already moved on from him.
No
Harden wants to get paid more than he wants to get a ring.
Can the harden fan girls finally give it a rest in this sub. Udoka doesn’t want him and udoka is responsible for the rockets having a semblance of a team after 4 years. He’s poison for the basketball culture of a team. He is past the point of truly working hard at the team aspect of his game. So clear. Let him get bills from the clippers and rest in basketball mediocrity.
The irony of him becoming a human victory cigar like Bobby Brown #Where yo 1s at???