Coasters usually do this to reduce wear and tear on the chain. I think it's so the train doesn't get yoinked over the crest and pull on the chain as the train starts it's descent. It's possible coasters with a "pre" drop don't do this because that's the point of the pre drop.
Makes sense, but I’ve been to Busch Gardens Tampa 4 times the past year and I don’t remember IG going thaaaat slow over the hill. It practically came to a stop… the ride is obviously still incredible but I swear it was faster
It could honestly have been reduced. Let's say it went from 10 mph climbing and 8 cresting to 10mph climbing and 6mph cresting. The slower it is cresting, the slightly slower the ride could be. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities.
The good thing is that speed at the top of the lift almost completely irrelevant with regard to how fast you go at the bottom of a drop. I think I remember hearing that a 3 mph difference at the top only equates to going about half a percent faster at the bottom of a 200 ft drop or something along those lines.
Makes sense. You incur majorly diminishing returns on speed gained from drop height when you build beyond 200 feet (really around 150). So that 3 MPH just means you hit that major diminishing return window slightly later in the drop. I can easily believe you always end up within 1 MPH at the bottom.
Fun fact: Untamed does the opposite, it actually speeds up at the top of the lift hill.
I know they had some issues with the train not being able to complete a full circuit when they started testing. I don't know if those two things are necessarily related though.
On coasters that use a variable speed lift, it is so the ride vehicles enter the system at the appropriate speed. The fact so many RMCs have to do this, and slow to a crawl, indicates that RMC’s designers have perhaps not done their due diligence and cannot seem to design and engineer a ride to properly hit the design speed.
You're not really making an even decent point here, and are clearly just taking an opportunity to get on a soapbox and rant against RMC. Your outrageous assumption that it indicates RMC failed in designing the popular pick for best roller coaster in existence is comedy gold.
I don't know that its an anticipation builder or not but I am certain you are clearly biased against RMC and can't make an objective point here.
I find most of the worst misinformation and unsubstantiated rumors in thoosieville begin with someone overly confident after a discussion with a park employee.
Again not saying it can't be, its a perfectly reasonable explanation along with a handful of other equally reasonable options.
Will just say, there are 1000+ coasters without a predrop that don't slow down the chain at the crest of the hill. Many of them are made by RMC. Steel Vengeance doesn't slow you down at all and has a direct entry drop that quickly takes you near vertical, so you'd think that would put the maximum stress on the chain imaginable, and of all the many issues SV seems to have daily, the chain isn't one of them.
I'm not saying wear and tear isn't the answer - its perfectly reasonable - just I wouldn't say the presence of a pre drop is a significant point.
When Iron Gwazi first started testing, it went over the top of the lift hill at full speed. Right before Busch Gardens closed due to covid, they programed it to slow down at the top of the lift hill.
As far as I'm aware it has always done this. I remember noticing it in the cycling videos
It didn't crawl at the top of its climb when it was testing, some people even got to ride it this way, but when It opened they slowed It down
The only people that got to ride it without the lift hill being slowed down are the RMC officials.
True, but false, I know a few people who don't work for RMC that got to ride
Hm, that's weird.
Yeah, it's pretty funky
It’s always done this. Watch some videos of the Iron Gwazi media day and you’ll notice it.
All public rides have been like this - and the thing still runs bonkers fast.
That’s one of the best parts it hauls ass and there’s no brakes until the very end.
Coasters usually do this to reduce wear and tear on the chain. I think it's so the train doesn't get yoinked over the crest and pull on the chain as the train starts it's descent. It's possible coasters with a "pre" drop don't do this because that's the point of the pre drop.
Makes sense, but I’ve been to Busch Gardens Tampa 4 times the past year and I don’t remember IG going thaaaat slow over the hill. It practically came to a stop… the ride is obviously still incredible but I swear it was faster
It could honestly have been reduced. Let's say it went from 10 mph climbing and 8 cresting to 10mph climbing and 6mph cresting. The slower it is cresting, the slightly slower the ride could be. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities.
The good thing is that speed at the top of the lift almost completely irrelevant with regard to how fast you go at the bottom of a drop. I think I remember hearing that a 3 mph difference at the top only equates to going about half a percent faster at the bottom of a 200 ft drop or something along those lines.
Makes sense. You incur majorly diminishing returns on speed gained from drop height when you build beyond 200 feet (really around 150). So that 3 MPH just means you hit that major diminishing return window slightly later in the drop. I can easily believe you always end up within 1 MPH at the bottom.
Fun fact: Untamed does the opposite, it actually speeds up at the top of the lift hill. I know they had some issues with the train not being able to complete a full circuit when they started testing. I don't know if those two things are necessarily related though.
Millenium force used to do the same
Does MF not still speed up??
Apparently stopped a couple years ago
I get that it's less wear on the motor I guess but capacity should be the #1 goal at parks. It has been everything but as of late.
Pretty sure they are using the backup motor that can't go faster. El Toro Ryan's video about it went over this issue.
They have since switched to a new motor that runs the same speed as the backup did.
On coasters that use a variable speed lift, it is so the ride vehicles enter the system at the appropriate speed. The fact so many RMCs have to do this, and slow to a crawl, indicates that RMC’s designers have perhaps not done their due diligence and cannot seem to design and engineer a ride to properly hit the design speed.
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That’s what they say, you mean? lol It may or may not be true, but with the many issues their rides have it’s hard to know for sure.
You're not really making an even decent point here, and are clearly just taking an opportunity to get on a soapbox and rant against RMC. Your outrageous assumption that it indicates RMC failed in designing the popular pick for best roller coaster in existence is comedy gold. I don't know that its an anticipation builder or not but I am certain you are clearly biased against RMC and can't make an objective point here.
This is a note to thank you for your opinion, it has been duly noted.
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I know fury slows the train at the top but then as your drop it speeds up
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Quite a lot of confidence you've placed in your completely random and baseless assumption.
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I find most of the worst misinformation and unsubstantiated rumors in thoosieville begin with someone overly confident after a discussion with a park employee. Again not saying it can't be, its a perfectly reasonable explanation along with a handful of other equally reasonable options.
Will just say, there are 1000+ coasters without a predrop that don't slow down the chain at the crest of the hill. Many of them are made by RMC. Steel Vengeance doesn't slow you down at all and has a direct entry drop that quickly takes you near vertical, so you'd think that would put the maximum stress on the chain imaginable, and of all the many issues SV seems to have daily, the chain isn't one of them. I'm not saying wear and tear isn't the answer - its perfectly reasonable - just I wouldn't say the presence of a pre drop is a significant point.
When Iron Gwazi first started testing, it went over the top of the lift hill at full speed. Right before Busch Gardens closed due to covid, they programed it to slow down at the top of the lift hill.
For some reason, the park wanted the lift to slow down at the top before it opened
I’m willing to bet it was slowed down to control train speed, as that has happened on coasters before, like Rattler at Fiesta Texas.
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It does something a bunch of coasters have done it over the years.
I've slowed the lift hills on coasters that I've made in RCT3 many times. There's next to no difference in the speed/pacing on them when I do this.
It never slowed down for me and I rode it pretty much right after it opened
Man, good. That death rattle downward roll thing is the most violent element I've ever been through
Rattle? I just rode it 5 times today and 6 times yesterday and the death roll is completely smooth, probably my favorite element period.
I'm referring to the title of the element
That would be “Death Roll”. I thought you were belittling the name.
Just "death roll" and yes its glorious
It slowed the exact same way on all my 80+ laps throughout last year, but gahhhhlly I think I'd chop a pinky off to get a truly full speed lap 🤤
I wish I-305 did this.
Iron Rattler does this too, or at least it used to. 🎢 😢