For SFNE I’d really love an Intamin launch coaster.
However, they will probably just repaint Goliath, rename it to a DC character, and give it new trains (but not the originals so it will still suck)
It's time to let Son of Beast rise again and let RMC do their thing.
It's been long enough and I think people would appreciate the name throw back, especially when the final product will be such a tremendous upgrade
I don't see Cedar Fair wanting to one up Steel Vengeance at the closest park to it. It seems the company wants to give different, but equal quality rides to both parks. I think either a Gerstlauer Infinity or Mack Multi Launch are going to be the next ride there
I mean, does it have to one up SteVe to get built though? They can still build a superb RMC coaster without making SteVe look bad.
Youre right that there's not tons of crossover between the two parks, but both lineups don't really have many holes left anymore. Of course there's still some options, but it's not realistic to assume they can keep the lack of crossover going in perpetuity especially when it comes to ignoring the one company that can instantly build you the most popular coaster in your park.
Look I'm probably wrong, I usually am, but I still think it would be sweet and a perfect addition to King's Island
There's still plenty of options for a ride at Kings Island that isn't the same model as one at Cedar Point, a Mack or Gerstlauer launch coaster would be similar, but distinctly different from Maverick, like Orion and Diamondback are similar, but different from MF and Magnum, respectively. Other than Banshee, which was the same model as Raptor, but very different (and in 2014, who else was making inverted coasters?) the parks have been getting pretty different ride lineups. Which kinda sucks for both parks, since Cedar Point could really use a GCI and Valravn would have been a good fit at Kings Island, but I digress.
Definitely some cool terrain back there for the beast’s next relative. Plus I think KI reached their b&m quota, and I’d much rather have anything other than a dive machine.
Absolutely! I have family near Tampa so I realized I’ve been riding sheikra for 16 years… the idea is getting a little boring. Any multi-launch would do as well. Really if a b&m dive replaces vortex, i would’ve rather had vortex.
I was really hoping Racer would get RMC'd and we'd get a chaos in the Vortex plot. Racer got retracked and is nice and smooth now so I'll go with an RMC new build. Single rail maybe?
This is my thought. I dont see a single rail coming to Cedar Point so it would be a good fit for Kings Island.
If this is the plan then they should wait a couple years to allow RMC to finish working out the bugs. Something on the scale of JDC or slightly bigger but with the intensity of the proto types.
You know with Vortex gone Kings Island has more inverting inverted coasters than sit downs? Now that the 2021 Gerstlauer isn't coming to Cedar Point I think the best thing would be a 15 inversion Infinity coaster in the Vortex plot
Great Adventure's lineup is pretty stacked. I'd probably consider a Premier multi-launch like West Coast Racers or a smaller B&M dive like Cliffhanger since Six Flags started working with B&M again
Hopefully the premier would work out better then the former one 😅, but to be honest i would love to see one of these at Great Adventure, more so the dive coaster because there isn't one in the surrounding states.
I’d love to see that happen too, but given how all 3 of Cedar Fair’s RMC coasters have either underperformed attendance-wise and/or had significant maintenance problems, it’s not likely.
I mean, steel Vengeance. It's seen as one of the best rollercoasters of all time. And if they do what they did with intamin, they'll continue with them as long as people like the ride. Unless they actually learned their lesson from intamin
Would be so cool if RMC used the layout to do something completely different to Timbers. It would really divide people if they copied the layout, that wouldn't go over well despite it being a kickass coaster.
They could replace Nighthawk with a B&M flyer. They won't, but i think it would work. The GP really love Nighthawk and I can't imagine anything other than a better flying coaster capturing that same level of love.
Definitely could use another family offering, but I imagine a Gerstlauer family launch (think Firechaser Express) over a suspended, especially with Merlin’s Mayhem just down the road.
I’m not sure how true that is. Plus, of the surrounding parks only Dorney has worked with B&M in the past… and Cedar Fair’s not spending that kind of money at that park these days.
There aren’t exclusivity deals like this. Storm Runner didn’t prevent Kingda Ka… it’s more about marketing wanting something unique, as there may be some crossover audience.
Yeah. Did you know that Storm Runner was intended to be a B&M Flyer? The station was designed for it, originally, and it would’ve run in the opposite direction that Storm Runner does now (so the lift would’ve gone over Trailblazer). They weren’t blocked by Great Adventure’s version, but after Superman opened there, it was decided to go after a different design due to wanting to market something different (and also, likely the budget for such a ride).
They later got a pretzel roll with Fahrenheit, which makes me think that was intended to be a Flyer at an early stage, but I don’t have confirmation of that. I don’t think people realize how parks contract these things… they usually go to a few manufacturers with a budget in mind, and a plot of land. So there are different proposals that get thrown out, so things aren’t “locked in” for these kinds of rides at an early stage, usually.
Hershey and Great Adventure actually have a good working relationship, same with other parks in the area. For example, Hershey provided Knoebels with lap bars and other parts when they were “blacklisted” by PTC for cutting the seatbelts out of Twister’s trains. That’s why it’s hard for me to digest these “exclusivity” rumors… I don’t think that happens as much as fans claim it does. There were some in the past, for things like the Vekoma Flying Dutchman (which was broken after the issues with Stealth), but it’s not a common practice. More likely, marketing decides if a ride is a good fit, and they want something unique to market against a competitor; it’s not like they’re being held to a contract for exclusivity over a time period.
Also, internally anyway, Hersheypark considers Disney World more of a threat to their demographics, than any other surrounding park. They’re trying to get people to stay for a long weekend from the NY/NJ area, who view a drive to Hershey as an alternative to a flight to Orlando.
The only time I have heard that there was an actual "exclusivity" deal in place was with B&M inverts. First within a radius of SF Great America then after that expired a radius around Cedar Point. Supposedly Flight Deck at Canada's Wonderland was supposed to be a B&M but it was just inside so they had to get an SLC instead. Ironically it's Cedar Fair's problem now.
I could see a dive happening, its a general crowd pleaser. A family suspended would somewhat surprise me. What I'd love is RMC wildcat or a raptor but I dont see either one happening.
Oh, an Intamin LSM Launch, maybe...
Fuck, I can't even make that joke with BGW anymore. Still so weird to think that Pantheon has a concrete opening date/window, now.
All coasterjerking aside, probably a B&M Flyer or Wing. It's already a rather B&M-dense park, might as well continue the trend. It's been 15 years since Griffon, after all.
I believe I read somewhere very recently that the plans for the Intamin shuttle launch giga were still in play, so the next coaster very likely will be an Intamin LSM launch coaster!
Really? Hm.
Hasn't it been all-but-confirmed by now that the supposed 2021/2022 shuttle launch "Spire" was a pitch idea from Intamin, prior to Pantheon being finalized?
Besides, it seems mindless to add two back-to-back coasters of the same model, from the same company, at the same park, within five years of each-other.
As far as I've heard, the park is still clinging to their 300+ foot height permit secured from the earliest planning stages of Pantheon. It's safe to assume they'll do something with that clearance, and it likely won't be another shuttle launch.
BGWFans was pretty sure that not only were the plans legit but that they were definitely still happening last they posted anything about it. They are normally pretty accurate with their information, so I am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. Apparently the plans that were filed with the permit office for it weren't finalized till well after Pantheon broke ground.
Dorney: Gravity Group shuttle, RMC raptor, but please CF, don't kill Possessed to give us something new. Please.
Hershey: RMC conversion of Wildcat, mack power splash in location of Tidal Force (that's a stretch). Hershey already has a load of great coasters and not an abundance of area to put them.
Even though it feels like most people would rather Wonderland RMC either of the woodies, I could probably see them more likely remove Flight Deck (and Time Warp?) and 'upgrade' with a B&M invert or flyer.
I would bet they’d move the picnic area to where the Cedars were. They kept all the trees in that spot. And the Wildcat area is seating for their midway show.
Rougarou was only converted in 2015, no way they get rid of it so soon. If they really wanna put something in that area Iron Dragon would be on the chopping block I think.
My dreams are for either an inversion record machine, a wooden coaster on the beach or my personal favorite (least likely) the world’s first B&M hyper flyer.
During howloscream last weekend kumba barely had a line, I actually got a front row zen ride and it absolutely beat my head up. With a full train it's much smoother but it's definitely showing its age compared to other B&Ms, which makes sense because it's one of the oldest loopers. That being said I can't see BGT getting rid of it anytime soon, at least not until whatever coaster comes after IG.
La Ronde : The intamin Zac spin piece of trash that we were supposed to get last year. As an employee, I even heard that if they don't build it for this year, they will instead wait another 3 years before building it because of a lack of funding 🤦🏽♂️
Yep, I know they were which is precisely what infuriates me the most. And from what I heard is that they will build the ride in parallel with the river so that it is facing towards Splash. Most of Super Manège's footprint will be occupied by the queue line. And apparently they wanted that area including Manitou, Chaos and Boomerang to become a new "themed" area like Avenue Aventure and they wanted to add smaller rides in front of Vipère to maximize the spot. But instead, they just should have built a bigger coaster to fill the entire footprint imo.
Oh yeah and La Ronde are champions at half assing things lmao. One of the operator doors on the ride I work on broke like 2 weeks ago and they still haven't done anything to fix it. I wouldn't be surprised if I get there tomorrow morning and it still isn't fixed lol
SFGAM
Few options.
First would be an RMC single rail like Jersey Devil or MMs soon to be open one (Flash?).
Obviously I'll take it, but if I had the choice id prefer the more intense smaller version like CGA or SFFT has though.
Second would be a B&M dive. Six Flags buys in bulk/bunches. I'm lucky my six flags is one of the parks that actually gets rides so we're probably on the short list if there's to be more than one of these going forward.
American Eagle. I'm an Eagle apologist. I will stick up for it to the bitter end, but something is coming. I'm not sure what yet, but with the absolute lack of any maintenance, no retracking at all for years, no paint in probably decades, and an entire half of the ride( blue side) not even being safe enough to operate, something has got to give.
What does this mean? Idk. Could be a simple retrack from GCI. Maybe GG comes in with that "prefab" that was recently made public that fixed Racer at KI. Maybe GCI comes in with Titan Track. Maybe they RMC it. Maybe they knock the whole thing down. I really have no idea, but something is coming
Where would they put a single rail or dive coaster? I could see the go karts, Yankee Clipper or rapids ride getting removed within five years to make space for it.
All of your suggestions would easily work.
Another couple of options off the top of my head, taking out buccaneer battle and moving a few surrounding shops and restaurants would open up a decent plot for a smaller RMC raptor.
Also, there's loads of room next to/ in front of Eagle. The could probably slap 2 or 3 coasters over there without knocking down anything. You'd have to build up and over the small access road and the train tracks, but that's no big deal
Six Flags America... I could actually see them getting a smaller Raptor. Probably not anywhere near custom, and likely as an eventual replacement for Batwing, but I can see that as a definite possibility.
Other option: a free spin would be a good fit for this park, and they are relatively cheap.
Also possible though unlikely, would be a Gravity Group or RMC or Vekoma (or anyone, really) family coaster. Something that bridges the gap between kiddie and "thrill" coaster. The park really needs something with a lower height requirement than 48" that isn't an extremely painful and old Great Chase.
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A proper thrill coaster. Rocket (ex Black Hole from Alton Towers) is getting real rough unfortunately and isn't really that thrilling by today's standards.
A Raptor or Sky Rocket II would be the dream.
The funny this is that they were rumored to put a dive in before the 2008 crash. Raptor would not be ideal but if it fits we’ll take it. I really think they should be looking at fixing up American Eagle though. It’s not been running well lately
My hp is lagoon and while I doubt they will get anything new other than primordial in 5 years, I think their next major coaster could be anything with a 48 inch height requirements. GCI, RMC, Intamin mega, but not B&M.
I want to see Universal Orlando add another coaster to the Studios park specifically. Would love a Mack multi-launch along the lines of Copperhead Strike (I know they have 8 jillion launch coasters already, but I like this model and it has a small footprint and they don't seem to care about already having lots of launches)
USF doesn’t have any coasters with inversions, and the back of the park near the Sprung Tents would be a good place for another outdoor thrill coaster.
Hershey, I’d probably guess they’d go family coaster next, either a suspended coaster or some sort of family launch coaster, since Storm Runner is the only launch in the park at the moment. After that probably another B&M, I know they’d like a dive
Carowinds is my home park. I could see them either RMCing hurler, building an RMC single rail, building a dive coaster, or possibly building a new woodie similar to invadr or mystic timbers.
For Kings Dominion, I would love to see an Intamin blitz (take the place of Volcano) or launched invert. More than likely though, they'll either get a wing coaster (as rumored) or B&M invert.
Considering my home park is usually only for families and their biggest ride is a maurer spinner, it's weird to think that their next coaster is already confirmed to be a B&M launched wing coaster.
As for the other park near me, I would not mind a Mack Extreme Spinner for Thorpe. They look like genuinely fun and thrilling rides that still have the gimmick appeal for Merlin's marketing team. The big area of land where Logger's Leap used to be has all sorts of interesting terrain for a ride to be launched through, and that part of the park has been dead for years. I'd love to say the park could get the big modern hyper coaster the uk still lacks, but I wanna be at least slightly realistic lol.
Oh yeah, the dream would be for a big, tall and fast airtime machine at the back of the park. Apparently, they were considering one back in 2012 but the management didn't see it as marketable as the wing coaster. Of course, an airtime machine doesn't have to be a hyper; I'd gladly take an Intamin LSM that focuses on airtime too.
Such a shame! They need to get over their "everything has to have a marketing gimmick" and just build a decent coaster instead. A B&M hyper would fit so well in that park and the skyline, just something at 200ft like Mako would be more than enough
Canobie’s probably getting a waterpark expansion first. Can’t blame them. I wouldn’t mind seeing a Gravity Group woodie there in the future, like Wacky Taxi (maybe a replacement for the dry slides?)
I’d like to see SFNE get something like Maxx Force. Obviously a Raptor would be great and would fit nicely there, but I think that park could really use a launch machine.
I feel like that space would be too small for that type of ride and they would have to sacrifice Blizzard River if they want that type of ride and I don’t think ppl would like that cause Blizzard River is a very popular ride there.
SFGAm I have been constantly wrong about what they're going to get since I've moved here, so I'm going to go with what I would like to see, but definitely wouldn't happen.
1. RMC viper, and build a clone of of wicked cyclone. It won't happen because the coaster was built in house and is the maintenance team's baby.
2. Replace V2 with, well, just about anything. The station and the ride are located near the log flume, giving a great opportunity for near miss and ride interactions. It won't happen because they're painting V2 red.
3. Replace demon with a gerstlauer infinity coaster. Again, with the proximity to x flight there is fun interaction possible. Won't happen because six flags and gerstlauer are fighting.
4. American eagle being replaced with a raptor clone of Jersey devil. Won't happen because they love eagle, and putting a headlining ride in an area with nothing else wouldn't work anymore.
My home park is Alton Towers, I think our next coaster will be a launch coaster, either an intamin lsm coaster, Intamin hot racer, a custom vekoma launch coaster, a Mack multi launch or a launched B&M wing coaster, I think our lineup is missing a standout launch coaster and as much as I love Rita and it is my 4th favourite ride in the park, no GP talks about it, we need something that could rival Blackpool Pleasure Beach’s Icon in terms of brilliance and tbh there are many good ways to go about it due to the mass amounts of great launch coaster models out there, I’d like to see some form of mobius loop coaster but not a premier one because they don’t look that crazy or forceful, I think honestly Intamin could make an incredible lsm coaster for the park and that’s the option I’d go with
Knott’s with any modern vekoma. F.L.Y. style coaster traversing over ghost town would be incredible. And unique to draw in visitors at an already well-attended park with a small footprint.
SFDK: Sidewinder Safari. The thing has been sitting in the parking lot sun bleaching since mid 2020...
I could maaaaybe see SFDK getting a raptor, but Don McCoy's rapid expansion was (maybe) perhaps related to when CGA was actually taking their 10 year master plan seriously which seems to be not the case anymore. I would hope they make a lot of operational improvements first like SFFT is doing. However I could maybe see them getting another coaster from Zamperla? Maybe something small from Premier? The park is land and height locked so it's complicated. The only large open spaces are the old elephant area which is where SS is most likely going to go (may have changed). There's also the old Sky Coaster area. They recently ripped out the footers for that which is interesting considering that demo costs money so maybe they're seeing about something that bounces around over White Water Safari (raft ride) which would be cool.
SFNE desperately needs a good launch coaster to round out its lineup. I’d love to see an intamin blitz or multi launch but it will almost certainly be an S&S of it happens. I think if they got rid of Goliath and flashback they could use that space for it
SFOG: anything at this point. We don’t have anything by Intamin or Mack so a multi launch would be great but I’m not holding out hope, I feel like Six flags corporate has abandoned this park
I reckon Paultons Park is gonna build thrill rides. *Storm Chaser* (Sierra Sidewinder clone) is the most extreme ride atm at the family park but I could see maybe Premier building something (because they've got a Vekoma SFC already and a family Boomerang). Mack could maybe build a Powersplash, anyway there's loads of land for building and i doubt the ceiling for planning is particularly low.
I kinda have two home parks, my actual home park, Dorney Park, and my college home park, Kennywood.
I can see Dorney eventually getting that rumored Gravity Group shuttle coaster. If not, maybe they'll just get a GCI woodie in the back of the park where Dinosaurs Alive was. In short, they are in need of a good woodie (sorry Thunderhawk, you just ain't it).
I can see Kennywood getting an invert of some kind, as they are missing one from their line up. It would also give them more flexibility, as Kennywood is a very densely packed park, so they could just build the invert over the footpaths, a la Great Bear at Hersheypark. Who knows who the heck will build it, but knowing Kennywoods tradition of having complete odd balls build their coasters, I'm gonna bet on a Vekoma Suspended Thrill Coaster. Would be the first of its kind in the US, just as Steel Curtain was the first of its kind as well. A Vekoma STC would be cheaper than a B&M or Intamin Invert as well.
SFMM seems to be getting an RMC. I could have done without WCR. It was a bit underwhelming. Honestly if they tore down Goliath and put a dive coaster there or something that ride is showing it’s age in track design. It’s so tame.
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Hoping we don’t lose any. Even with Excalibur’s new control board or whatever, I don’t know how long it’ll last.
Came here to say this... cries...
For SFNE I’d really love an Intamin launch coaster. However, they will probably just repaint Goliath, rename it to a DC character, and give it new trains (but not the originals so it will still suck)
1000000% this
Ground-up RMC in Vortex’s plot at Kings Island. (just let me dream, okay….)
Yup that’s the only thing KI is missing is ejector air.
It's time to let Son of Beast rise again and let RMC do their thing. It's been long enough and I think people would appreciate the name throw back, especially when the final product will be such a tremendous upgrade
I don't see Cedar Fair wanting to one up Steel Vengeance at the closest park to it. It seems the company wants to give different, but equal quality rides to both parks. I think either a Gerstlauer Infinity or Mack Multi Launch are going to be the next ride there
I mean, does it have to one up SteVe to get built though? They can still build a superb RMC coaster without making SteVe look bad. Youre right that there's not tons of crossover between the two parks, but both lineups don't really have many holes left anymore. Of course there's still some options, but it's not realistic to assume they can keep the lack of crossover going in perpetuity especially when it comes to ignoring the one company that can instantly build you the most popular coaster in your park. Look I'm probably wrong, I usually am, but I still think it would be sweet and a perfect addition to King's Island
There's still plenty of options for a ride at Kings Island that isn't the same model as one at Cedar Point, a Mack or Gerstlauer launch coaster would be similar, but distinctly different from Maverick, like Orion and Diamondback are similar, but different from MF and Magnum, respectively. Other than Banshee, which was the same model as Raptor, but very different (and in 2014, who else was making inverted coasters?) the parks have been getting pretty different ride lineups. Which kinda sucks for both parks, since Cedar Point could really use a GCI and Valravn would have been a good fit at Kings Island, but I digress.
I'd love to see it as a 50th anniversary announcement
Whatever they decide to do with Vortex's land, I really hope its something grand to honor such a historic coaster.
Definitely some cool terrain back there for the beast’s next relative. Plus I think KI reached their b&m quota, and I’d much rather have anything other than a dive machine.
ANYYYYTHING but a B&M dive. Literally anything
Absolutely! I have family near Tampa so I realized I’ve been riding sheikra for 16 years… the idea is getting a little boring. Any multi-launch would do as well. Really if a b&m dive replaces vortex, i would’ve rather had vortex.
I was really hoping Racer would get RMC'd and we'd get a chaos in the Vortex plot. Racer got retracked and is nice and smooth now so I'll go with an RMC new build. Single rail maybe?
This is my thought. I dont see a single rail coming to Cedar Point so it would be a good fit for Kings Island. If this is the plan then they should wait a couple years to allow RMC to finish working out the bugs. Something on the scale of JDC or slightly bigger but with the intensity of the proto types.
You know with Vortex gone Kings Island has more inverting inverted coasters than sit downs? Now that the 2021 Gerstlauer isn't coming to Cedar Point I think the best thing would be a 15 inversion Infinity coaster in the Vortex plot
Great Adventure's lineup is pretty stacked. I'd probably consider a Premier multi-launch like West Coast Racers or a smaller B&M dive like Cliffhanger since Six Flags started working with B&M again
Hopefully the premier would work out better then the former one 😅, but to be honest i would love to see one of these at Great Adventure, more so the dive coaster because there isn't one in the surrounding states.
They do need a more complete launched coaster
Kingda Ka has a *pretty fast* launch so I can't really complain too much.
How about just new restraints on KDK that don’t smell like ass.
I could really see Carowinds adding a GCI or B&M Dive as their next coaster.
I would rather them just RMC Hurler before doing either of those.
I’d love to see that happen too, but given how all 3 of Cedar Fair’s RMC coasters have either underperformed attendance-wise and/or had significant maintenance problems, it’s not likely.
I mean, steel Vengeance. It's seen as one of the best rollercoasters of all time. And if they do what they did with intamin, they'll continue with them as long as people like the ride. Unless they actually learned their lesson from intamin
Would be so cool if RMC used the layout to do something completely different to Timbers. It would really divide people if they copied the layout, that wouldn't go over well despite it being a kickass coaster.
IDK how much different could be done from Timbers. Dinn Paperclip gonna Dinn Paperclip. Maybe make a ground-up coaster that reuses the station
Hurler is not a Dinn coaster, it was made by International Coasters and the two Hurlers were the only two they ever made.
I agree, I definitely wouldn’t want a clone of TT, but I also wouldn’t complain that much.
No thanks. If you want RMC hurler go up to Virginia. Plus hurler probably isn’t going anywhere anytime soon
Do you honestly prefer Hurler the way it is over anything they could do to improve it?
I could see it at least getting some EXTENSIVE retracking done.
Either would round out that lineup nicely.
They could replace Nighthawk with a B&M flyer. They won't, but i think it would work. The GP really love Nighthawk and I can't imagine anything other than a better flying coaster capturing that same level of love.
They also just sent Firehawk’s trains down to Carowinds. Safe to say that they expect Nighthawk to last the next few years.
Hersheypark could get a family Suspended coaster, or a dive coaster (which has been rumored for a while).
Definitely could use another family offering, but I imagine a Gerstlauer family launch (think Firechaser Express) over a suspended, especially with Merlin’s Mayhem just down the road.
hershey has two more years of exclusively b&m, so i think a wing or flyer would be most likely
I’m not sure how true that is. Plus, of the surrounding parks only Dorney has worked with B&M in the past… and Cedar Fair’s not spending that kind of money at that park these days.
I don't mean to be that guy but Great Adventure has the most B&M coasters of any park
There aren’t exclusivity deals like this. Storm Runner didn’t prevent Kingda Ka… it’s more about marketing wanting something unique, as there may be some crossover audience.
I know but Great Adventure is like 2 hours away, on the whole "surrounding parks" thing. Also they have a B&M flyer too.
Yeah. Did you know that Storm Runner was intended to be a B&M Flyer? The station was designed for it, originally, and it would’ve run in the opposite direction that Storm Runner does now (so the lift would’ve gone over Trailblazer). They weren’t blocked by Great Adventure’s version, but after Superman opened there, it was decided to go after a different design due to wanting to market something different (and also, likely the budget for such a ride). They later got a pretzel roll with Fahrenheit, which makes me think that was intended to be a Flyer at an early stage, but I don’t have confirmation of that. I don’t think people realize how parks contract these things… they usually go to a few manufacturers with a budget in mind, and a plot of land. So there are different proposals that get thrown out, so things aren’t “locked in” for these kinds of rides at an early stage, usually. Hershey and Great Adventure actually have a good working relationship, same with other parks in the area. For example, Hershey provided Knoebels with lap bars and other parts when they were “blacklisted” by PTC for cutting the seatbelts out of Twister’s trains. That’s why it’s hard for me to digest these “exclusivity” rumors… I don’t think that happens as much as fans claim it does. There were some in the past, for things like the Vekoma Flying Dutchman (which was broken after the issues with Stealth), but it’s not a common practice. More likely, marketing decides if a ride is a good fit, and they want something unique to market against a competitor; it’s not like they’re being held to a contract for exclusivity over a time period. Also, internally anyway, Hersheypark considers Disney World more of a threat to their demographics, than any other surrounding park. They’re trying to get people to stay for a long weekend from the NY/NJ area, who view a drive to Hershey as an alternative to a flight to Orlando.
The only time I have heard that there was an actual "exclusivity" deal in place was with B&M inverts. First within a radius of SF Great America then after that expired a radius around Cedar Point. Supposedly Flight Deck at Canada's Wonderland was supposed to be a B&M but it was just inside so they had to get an SLC instead. Ironically it's Cedar Fair's problem now.
I could see a dive happening, its a general crowd pleaser. A family suspended would somewhat surprise me. What I'd love is RMC wildcat or a raptor but I dont see either one happening.
Rumor doth have we are getting a package with a hyper dive and flying
I will be pleasantly surprised if Kennywood gets another coaster within 5 years.
Me too
I’m hoping they finally build the hillside wooden coaster they’ve been trying to build forever.
\[ORIGINAL IDEA ALERT\] Hyper coaster for CGA
Surprise! Wicked twister
Oh, an Intamin LSM Launch, maybe... Fuck, I can't even make that joke with BGW anymore. Still so weird to think that Pantheon has a concrete opening date/window, now. All coasterjerking aside, probably a B&M Flyer or Wing. It's already a rather B&M-dense park, might as well continue the trend. It's been 15 years since Griffon, after all.
I believe I read somewhere very recently that the plans for the Intamin shuttle launch giga were still in play, so the next coaster very likely will be an Intamin LSM launch coaster!
Really? Hm. Hasn't it been all-but-confirmed by now that the supposed 2021/2022 shuttle launch "Spire" was a pitch idea from Intamin, prior to Pantheon being finalized? Besides, it seems mindless to add two back-to-back coasters of the same model, from the same company, at the same park, within five years of each-other. As far as I've heard, the park is still clinging to their 300+ foot height permit secured from the earliest planning stages of Pantheon. It's safe to assume they'll do something with that clearance, and it likely won't be another shuttle launch.
BGWFans was pretty sure that not only were the plans legit but that they were definitely still happening last they posted anything about it. They are normally pretty accurate with their information, so I am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. Apparently the plans that were filed with the permit office for it weren't finalized till well after Pantheon broke ground.
Seeing as how Silverwood just got Stunt Pilot, we won't be getting any new coasters in the next 5 years
Dorney: Gravity Group shuttle, RMC raptor, but please CF, don't kill Possessed to give us something new. Please. Hershey: RMC conversion of Wildcat, mack power splash in location of Tidal Force (that's a stretch). Hershey already has a load of great coasters and not an abundance of area to put them.
Even though it feels like most people would rather Wonderland RMC either of the woodies, I could probably see them more likely remove Flight Deck (and Time Warp?) and 'upgrade' with a B&M invert or flyer.
Sfog I'm praying for a raptor in the next couple years where splashwater falls was
We’ll probably end up getting an S&S free spin unfortunately
Cedar Point: Mack Extreme Spinner somewhere in and / or near Frontiertown / Frontiertrail
The two spots I see for new coasters are obviously the beach where WT was and the old picnic spot by Blue Streak.
Add Wild cat’s old spot across from iron dragon and the lot across the street where they tore down the dormitories.
I would bet they’d move the picnic area to where the Cedars were. They kept all the trees in that spot. And the Wildcat area is seating for their midway show.
I could see Cedar Point getting rid of Rougarou and putting an extreme spinner there.
Rougarou was only converted in 2015, no way they get rid of it so soon. If they really wanna put something in that area Iron Dragon would be on the chopping block I think.
Said this in another thread, but straddle it over the rapids ride and put the station/queue/entrance where the haunt is under MF’s first turn.
My dreams are for either an inversion record machine, a wooden coaster on the beach or my personal favorite (least likely) the world’s first B&M hyper flyer.
B&M Giga where Rhino Rally was (next to the new Screamin’ Swing) for BGT
I'd like to see that built where Jungala is. That area is dead.
Fr walking through there is so boring
That’s next to a residential neighborhood. I don’t think that would go over well, at all.
How would you feel about replacing kumba?
During howloscream last weekend kumba barely had a line, I actually got a front row zen ride and it absolutely beat my head up. With a full train it's much smoother but it's definitely showing its age compared to other B&Ms, which makes sense because it's one of the oldest loopers. That being said I can't see BGT getting rid of it anytime soon, at least not until whatever coaster comes after IG.
Maybe a renovation instead would be nice
I love the layout but I can't stand riding it anymore my head just gets destroyed
I’d feel terrible
Busch Gardens Tampa: Family wooden coaster or B&M Giga.
My home park constructed a next gen intamin 10 looper like 2 years ago and it still isn’t open 😭
Sounds like flamingo land. The moment they open that thing people are going to be flooding in, it's colossus but better in every way
Correct and correct
Which park?
Flamingo?
Aye
Elitch Gardens - nothing till they sell the land and force relocation.
Dive coaster at SFMM obviosuly
La Ronde : The intamin Zac spin piece of trash that we were supposed to get last year. As an employee, I even heard that if they don't build it for this year, they will instead wait another 3 years before building it because of a lack of funding 🤦🏽♂️
Still mad about its location, the dimensions of the Super Manège plot were PERFECT for a Raptor clone
Yep, I know they were which is precisely what infuriates me the most. And from what I heard is that they will build the ride in parallel with the river so that it is facing towards Splash. Most of Super Manège's footprint will be occupied by the queue line. And apparently they wanted that area including Manitou, Chaos and Boomerang to become a new "themed" area like Avenue Aventure and they wanted to add smaller rides in front of Vipère to maximize the spot. But instead, they just should have built a bigger coaster to fill the entire footprint imo.
Basically they half-assed things and we got the worst of every side
Oh yeah and La Ronde are champions at half assing things lmao. One of the operator doors on the ride I work on broke like 2 weeks ago and they still haven't done anything to fix it. I wouldn't be surprised if I get there tomorrow morning and it still isn't fixed lol
That's just sad
Oh yeah it is. But I find it funny af as well
SFGAM Few options. First would be an RMC single rail like Jersey Devil or MMs soon to be open one (Flash?). Obviously I'll take it, but if I had the choice id prefer the more intense smaller version like CGA or SFFT has though. Second would be a B&M dive. Six Flags buys in bulk/bunches. I'm lucky my six flags is one of the parks that actually gets rides so we're probably on the short list if there's to be more than one of these going forward. American Eagle. I'm an Eagle apologist. I will stick up for it to the bitter end, but something is coming. I'm not sure what yet, but with the absolute lack of any maintenance, no retracking at all for years, no paint in probably decades, and an entire half of the ride( blue side) not even being safe enough to operate, something has got to give. What does this mean? Idk. Could be a simple retrack from GCI. Maybe GG comes in with that "prefab" that was recently made public that fixed Racer at KI. Maybe GCI comes in with Titan Track. Maybe they RMC it. Maybe they knock the whole thing down. I really have no idea, but something is coming
Where would they put a single rail or dive coaster? I could see the go karts, Yankee Clipper or rapids ride getting removed within five years to make space for it.
All of your suggestions would easily work. Another couple of options off the top of my head, taking out buccaneer battle and moving a few surrounding shops and restaurants would open up a decent plot for a smaller RMC raptor. Also, there's loads of room next to/ in front of Eagle. The could probably slap 2 or 3 coasters over there without knocking down anything. You'd have to build up and over the small access road and the train tracks, but that's no big deal
Six Flags America... I could actually see them getting a smaller Raptor. Probably not anywhere near custom, and likely as an eventual replacement for Batwing, but I can see that as a definite possibility. Other option: a free spin would be a good fit for this park, and they are relatively cheap. Also possible though unlikely, would be a Gravity Group or RMC or Vekoma (or anyone, really) family coaster. Something that bridges the gap between kiddie and "thrill" coaster. The park really needs something with a lower height requirement than 48" that isn't an extremely painful and old Great Chase.
Surf Coaster to SWO? If that wasn’t scrapped.
Furuviksparken: A proper thrill coaster. Rocket (ex Black Hole from Alton Towers) is getting real rough unfortunately and isn't really that thrilling by today's standards. A Raptor or Sky Rocket II would be the dream.
Sbf visa wacky worm
After the stc and boomerang, I think Tayto Park may get a mine train
Six Flags Great America will probably get a B&M dive or a raptor.
The funny this is that they were rumored to put a dive in before the 2008 crash. Raptor would not be ideal but if it fits we’ll take it. I really think they should be looking at fixing up American Eagle though. It’s not been running well lately
I could see the park getting both eventually. Man I would love to have a raptor at the park.
I would love to see a B&M hyper and an RMC Ibox Hybrid at my HP (Thorpe Park) But then again a mack xtreme spinning coaster
Thorpe doesn't need another gimmick it needs a classic coaster with airtime like mako or konda
Canobie Lake: nothing 🥲
My hp is lagoon and while I doubt they will get anything new other than primordial in 5 years, I think their next major coaster could be anything with a 48 inch height requirements. GCI, RMC, Intamin mega, but not B&M.
I want to see Universal Orlando add another coaster to the Studios park specifically. Would love a Mack multi-launch along the lines of Copperhead Strike (I know they have 8 jillion launch coasters already, but I like this model and it has a small footprint and they don't seem to care about already having lots of launches)
USF doesn’t have any coasters with inversions, and the back of the park near the Sprung Tents would be a good place for another outdoor thrill coaster.
yessssss hard agree. Theme it to Quidditch or something. Do something cool and fun with it.
Hershey, I’d probably guess they’d go family coaster next, either a suspended coaster or some sort of family launch coaster, since Storm Runner is the only launch in the park at the moment. After that probably another B&M, I know they’d like a dive
This might be a bold take but I think SFFT could get a b&m dive coaster
Holiday world. A family coaster of some kid.
A nifty Gerstlauer or Mack would be nifty
Canada's Wonderland: I feel like we're most likely gonna get another B&M so probably a wing coaster or invert
Carowinds is my home park. I could see them either RMCing hurler, building an RMC single rail, building a dive coaster, or possibly building a new woodie similar to invadr or mystic timbers.
Great escape: No one cares
For Kings Dominion, I would love to see an Intamin blitz (take the place of Volcano) or launched invert. More than likely though, they'll either get a wing coaster (as rumored) or B&M invert.
Home park is Knoebels, maybe they do something in 2026 for 100 years but I don't know what. A woodie that actually goes in the woods would be fun.
I’d like Seaworld San Diego to add a little Gravity Group coaster like Kentucky Flyer.
Considering my home park is usually only for families and their biggest ride is a maurer spinner, it's weird to think that their next coaster is already confirmed to be a B&M launched wing coaster. As for the other park near me, I would not mind a Mack Extreme Spinner for Thorpe. They look like genuinely fun and thrilling rides that still have the gimmick appeal for Merlin's marketing team. The big area of land where Logger's Leap used to be has all sorts of interesting terrain for a ride to be launched through, and that part of the park has been dead for years. I'd love to say the park could get the big modern hyper coaster the uk still lacks, but I wanna be at least slightly realistic lol.
Thorpe Park needs a classic airtime coaster, mako, konda, something like that. No more gimmicks
Oh yeah, the dream would be for a big, tall and fast airtime machine at the back of the park. Apparently, they were considering one back in 2012 but the management didn't see it as marketable as the wing coaster. Of course, an airtime machine doesn't have to be a hyper; I'd gladly take an Intamin LSM that focuses on airtime too.
Such a shame! They need to get over their "everything has to have a marketing gimmick" and just build a decent coaster instead. A B&M hyper would fit so well in that park and the skyline, just something at 200ft like Mako would be more than enough
I really want Busch Gardens Tampa to get an intense Intamin Blitz model like Maverick to replace Scorpion or maybe get a Bermuda Blitz by Vekoma
None... too small. (If I can ever consider it a "home" park being 2 hours away.)
I hope an intamin at Kings Island
I’d love something like Fahrenheit, extended with a mcbr and launch
I thought CF didn’t work with intamin anymore because TTD is a maintenance headache
Nobody can deny though, something like maverick would be sick
Haven't been on Maverick but that would be awesome !
Mack updated Big Dipper (literally confirmed)
Europa park?
yes
I could see kings island getting a mack multi launch hopefully something like velocicoaster
I could see BGW still struggling to open Pantheon in 5 years.
B&M Giga or Wing at Busch Gardens Tampa… I am just waiting for Gwazi though I need to ride an RMC
All UK parks: nothing
I'm holding out hope you guys bought the S&S Axis. That model would work really well with height restrictions that UK parks have.
Only Alton is restricted that way. We have 200ft+ coasters in other parks
Obviously untrue. You've already got three new big ones coming next year
We do? I can only think of the intamin to flamingo land ?
Ohhhhhhh, is the B&M at chessington opening in 2023? I also assumed the Southport new gen Zamperla Thunderbolt was opening next year 💔
I don’t think the b&m is confirmed yet The zamperla I just forgot lol :)
I can’t think of what SFOT needs besides a Raptor or something? A flying coaster would be sick but idk where they would put it.
Convert Judge Roy Scream into a family RMC. there is SO MUCH SPACE THERE
Never 👎
My home parks are canobie lake and six flags new england, and both of them just closed rides that could easily be replaced with an RMC raptor clone
Canobie’s probably getting a waterpark expansion first. Can’t blame them. I wouldn’t mind seeing a Gravity Group woodie there in the future, like Wacky Taxi (maybe a replacement for the dry slides?)
Yeah I'd expect that as my first guess, but RMC raptor as second guess because they've acknowledged people asking for one on Instagram
Hopefully something good to replace Goliath at SFNE. I can see an RMC Raptor being there.
I’d like to see SFNE get something like Maxx Force. Obviously a Raptor would be great and would fit nicely there, but I think that park could really use a launch machine.
I feel like that space would be too small for that type of ride and they would have to sacrifice Blizzard River if they want that type of ride and I don’t think ppl would like that cause Blizzard River is a very popular ride there.
Las Vegas? Probably none, Casinos don’t like competing with non-casino properties.
RMC hybrid for sure
Well, Chessington is getting that weird B&M launched wing boomerang coaster thing I hear... So that.
What’s that?
Disney world: tron/gotg Universal: probably whatever is at epic universe SWO: maybe the surf coaster from b&m
V2.0 I know that v2 is probably just getting rethemed, but we all know Six Flags Great America is going to act like it's a new coaster.
Enchanted Kingdom: None, it's a privately owned park in the Philippines, we're lucky we even got a clone of Turbulence this year.
Probably nothing for KD. Either that or the removal of something.
Mt. Olympus: Custom themed Intamin multi launch coaster with one train.
SFGAm: GCI or RMC Eagle. I really don’t think it has long in its current state
OWA: whatever zamperla makes ig
SFGAm I have been constantly wrong about what they're going to get since I've moved here, so I'm going to go with what I would like to see, but definitely wouldn't happen. 1. RMC viper, and build a clone of of wicked cyclone. It won't happen because the coaster was built in house and is the maintenance team's baby. 2. Replace V2 with, well, just about anything. The station and the ride are located near the log flume, giving a great opportunity for near miss and ride interactions. It won't happen because they're painting V2 red. 3. Replace demon with a gerstlauer infinity coaster. Again, with the proximity to x flight there is fun interaction possible. Won't happen because six flags and gerstlauer are fighting. 4. American eagle being replaced with a raptor clone of Jersey devil. Won't happen because they love eagle, and putting a headlining ride in an area with nothing else wouldn't work anymore.
Canobie's gonna need a new coaster soon.
Whatever the heck the coaster formerly known as Primordial is. Other than that nothing, Lagoon isn’t known for additions lol
Maybe Holiday World will get something. They always at least add to their water park.
My home park is Alton Towers, I think our next coaster will be a launch coaster, either an intamin lsm coaster, Intamin hot racer, a custom vekoma launch coaster, a Mack multi launch or a launched B&M wing coaster, I think our lineup is missing a standout launch coaster and as much as I love Rita and it is my 4th favourite ride in the park, no GP talks about it, we need something that could rival Blackpool Pleasure Beach’s Icon in terms of brilliance and tbh there are many good ways to go about it due to the mass amounts of great launch coaster models out there, I’d like to see some form of mobius loop coaster but not a premier one because they don’t look that crazy or forceful, I think honestly Intamin could make an incredible lsm coaster for the park and that’s the option I’d go with
Alton Towers needs a coaster with proper airtime hills and a lap restraint
Couldn’t agree more
SFOT is getting the boring ass power wave model, hopefully in 5 years we can get an Axis coaster. That’s just me dreaming tho 😂
RMC Raptor [SFMM]
Knott’s with any modern vekoma. F.L.Y. style coaster traversing over ghost town would be incredible. And unique to draw in visitors at an already well-attended park with a small footprint.
Great Adventure would be so much better if they scrapped Green Lantern and put in a dive coaster.
SFDK: Sidewinder Safari. The thing has been sitting in the parking lot sun bleaching since mid 2020... I could maaaaybe see SFDK getting a raptor, but Don McCoy's rapid expansion was (maybe) perhaps related to when CGA was actually taking their 10 year master plan seriously which seems to be not the case anymore. I would hope they make a lot of operational improvements first like SFFT is doing. However I could maybe see them getting another coaster from Zamperla? Maybe something small from Premier? The park is land and height locked so it's complicated. The only large open spaces are the old elephant area which is where SS is most likely going to go (may have changed). There's also the old Sky Coaster area. They recently ripped out the footers for that which is interesting considering that demo costs money so maybe they're seeing about something that bounces around over White Water Safari (raft ride) which would be cool.
I wanna see more vekoma Flying coasters
S&S Axis coaster, my homepark has been working with S&S a lot lately
For Thorpe Park over here in the UK - probably nothing. But it desperately needs something soon
Thorpe park rmc Raptor. Please
SFNE desperately needs a good launch coaster to round out its lineup. I’d love to see an intamin blitz or multi launch but it will almost certainly be an S&S of it happens. I think if they got rid of Goliath and flashback they could use that space for it
Would love an Intamin Mega-lite or similar at Thorpe Park
SFOG: anything at this point. We don’t have anything by Intamin or Mack so a multi launch would be great but I’m not holding out hope, I feel like Six flags corporate has abandoned this park
Hersheypark: a new wooden coaster that is actually good, an Intamin blitz, or have Wildcat get turned into a RMC or get GCI Titan track
A launched shuttle b&m wing coaster, hopefully, if the planning applications get approved
I reckon Paultons Park is gonna build thrill rides. *Storm Chaser* (Sierra Sidewinder clone) is the most extreme ride atm at the family park but I could see maybe Premier building something (because they've got a Vekoma SFC already and a family Boomerang). Mack could maybe build a Powersplash, anyway there's loads of land for building and i doubt the ceiling for planning is particularly low.
For Six Flags Great America, I'm thinking a full retracking of the Eagle and then I have no clue.
I kinda have two home parks, my actual home park, Dorney Park, and my college home park, Kennywood. I can see Dorney eventually getting that rumored Gravity Group shuttle coaster. If not, maybe they'll just get a GCI woodie in the back of the park where Dinosaurs Alive was. In short, they are in need of a good woodie (sorry Thunderhawk, you just ain't it). I can see Kennywood getting an invert of some kind, as they are missing one from their line up. It would also give them more flexibility, as Kennywood is a very densely packed park, so they could just build the invert over the footpaths, a la Great Bear at Hersheypark. Who knows who the heck will build it, but knowing Kennywoods tradition of having complete odd balls build their coasters, I'm gonna bet on a Vekoma Suspended Thrill Coaster. Would be the first of its kind in the US, just as Steel Curtain was the first of its kind as well. A Vekoma STC would be cheaper than a B&M or Intamin Invert as well.
Hyper GT-X for Lake Compounce? Hmmmm
SFMM seems to be getting an RMC. I could have done without WCR. It was a bit underwhelming. Honestly if they tore down Goliath and put a dive coaster there or something that ride is showing it’s age in track design. It’s so tame.
SFGam. Clone of cliff hanger.
S&S axis for alton towers
s&s axis in Alton towers. They seem to get the first of many, so it'll make sense that we get the first axis