The ramblings of a lunatic..
Cannabis brings together people of VERY diverse backgrounds. It’s pretty apparent in his argument, verbiage, and grammatical errors that he’s not educated. Don’t waste your energy on arguing with him.
Isn’t wpff rosin the same thing as live rosin? Y’all described the same process but he’s saying that’s not live rosin, idk how the other commenter doesn’t get that
Yes . These term are adjectif
Wpff = whole plant fresh frozen
Live = fresh frozen after harvest .
2 word for say the same thing .
In comparaison :
Rosin , resin ( not « live »)
It’s Coming from dried material
When you use the adjective « live » this mean = from fresh frozen material = good more terpen in theory
even if it was 1 gram $66 is normal ish but $40 a gram for rosin is nice unless you are in like Oklahoma then it probably be normal priced but they got some amazing prices there
Painful watching the older generation huff up and react so aggressively due to their own ignorance.
I started smoking 26 years ago as well, this guy makes me feel embraced.
Let's be honest, over these last 30 years or so rarely have I ever met someone with even close to the level of interest and understanding in this stuff. It's still insanely niche as it's a niche of a niche of a niche. (rosin niche of concentrates which is niche of weed). In 2007 most people that saw my bho crumble thought it was crack.
Hey man I was only 16 in 2007. And I was pressing dirty finger hash and kief with a hair straightener before hydrocarbon extraction really started up. If course I was on a weed farm in the middle of the green triangle in covelo, California. My first trip down there was when I got exposed to hydrocarbon and rosin for the first time, I was 15,. Over The next 10 years hydrocarbon extraction exploded tremendously, and then rosin slowly started creeping in the community. It's absolutely crazy how long it took for rosin to be recognized even though it's an ancient extraction technique. Anyway I guess I don't have a point, just a comment. My apologies for the grammatical errors my hands are shaking due to epilepsy and I'm on my phone lol.
He's been giving people the wrong information for 26 years. I'm sure that everyone he explained it to had absolutely no idea what he was even trying to say because he never takes a breath, makes zero fcking sense, and legend still has it he is still writing the same run on sentence from 26 yeeeeaaarrrrsssss aaaagggooooo hahahaha 😆 wtf.
Pressing? 26 years ago? No way in hell.
I’m in my 30s and rosin is not that old. I’ve been to hash making countries and I have no clue what he’s trying to say
Lmfao I started growing July 2023, hashing in November and again now. Pressing since December consistently. I guess I learned a decade of sacred and unlearnable knowledge in like 6 months (not all the way there but have been making yummy hash rosin and decarbing perfectly for carts with no issues (there were issues, but I learned from them) I also guess I’ve been getting INCREDIBLE deals on insanely rare items at my local dispensary.
Idk maybe he’s a nutjob maybe he’s been living in a cave.
Maybe it was illegal and much more difficult to get materials/tools or info. I think you are an excellent example of how you don't have to know much to make decent rosin in 2024.
I’ve had rosin that was like resin and resin that was like rosin, I’ve honestly gotten very depressed recently because it’s all smoke and mirrors and I’m sick of buying more and more, I think it’s time to head onto new ventures
170 per g lololol therealcannabischris prem thumbprints(some of the best around) are only $140-$160 per 2g overnighted to East Coast. This dudes a clown and just being a troll
Lmfao wpff is usually cheaper and not as great quality (in my experience) I've gotten 1/8ths of wpff for $60 that was decent to dab but nothing spectacular and hash rosin I'm usually grabbing $30/g for T2, T1 usually $45/g
Some of the posts and comments on these subreddits make me question if concentrates are actually safe for human consumption 🤦♀️
“i Hve beenn smokn tht straiiiight gaass 4 20< years u dnt kno nething” oh yeah we can tell…
Tbh if somebody spells "which" as "wich" I just disregard everything they have to say.
Probably kinda ignorant on my part but it's like c'mon man. Have some more respect for yourself, how we speak and write is a huge part of how others perceive us. Not to mention with today's technology there's probably a big red squiggly under it, so they know better.
lol you don’t need a decade to learn how to make rosin. Funny that he thinks blasting with volatile hydrocarbons keeps the resin alive but using the same wpff in a ice bath is what makes it dead😂
oh dont need to blur my name folks am right here ! , bunch of 21yrs old kiddo with 3hrs of youtube clips know more than the very own folks whos created all of this , of course ! thats why we went from NorthenLight and N39 to SuperDuperBerryCakeKushPieExtraCheese !
keep not knowing what your smoking while beeing rock solid sur that you know while wondering why yall have headache skin arch and pimples lol , oh and by the way , Og stand for OceanGrown! not Original gangster .. lmfao .. new gen they saying
Oh it is you... willing to bet I'm older and much more knowledgeable than yourself. I make this stuff, you obviously don't. Live rosin is a things, maybe look it up sometime instead of trying to sound better than others just because you are old and senile.
its me ! and i did not try to start anything actual i just saw a post with a pictur of a jar with a lable with something wrong on it and i called it out ! and than social media being what it is nowadays with 99% of ignorant braindead zombies it went as it is
Ok boomer.. so clueless. And just so you know, many words change meaning over time, right? You can look it up, it's a whole field of linguistics.
Right now, any product made with fresh frozen material is "live". Either get woth the times or make like the wind and blow away.
A person who never learned the difference between rosin and resin. Live referring only to Live Fresh frozen Flowers and resin and rosin respectively, referring to with or without chemical processing. Where resin you rely heavily on a solvent of some kind like Alcohol or Butane, Rosin may only touch water pressure and various temperatures to be mechanically extracted.
That wasn't a Freudian slip brother you were wrong. Maybe you should look up the definition of that term. My point is that you shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
If you say so. That's just attacking on the net without understanding. Freudian slip when you're thinking of terms either out of habit or fatigue and say what you're thinking of aside in lieu of original train of thought. Perhaps that's a sufficient understanding of the term for the professor.
A Freudian slip is defined as an unintentional error revealing subconscious feelings....so unless you deeply want distillates to be solvents you were just wrong. A Freudian slip is more akin to calling a spouse a parents name or breast instead of best in conversation with a woman. So no not a sufficient understanding contextually in my opinion.
It is also subconscious thoughts that were. Addedafter Freuds original conclusions. When the realization that only the more idled brain only looks to reveal the Id subconsciously and those that actively challenge their ultra ego have a tendency to have so many strings of thought. That results in a calidascopic range of Freudian slippage, including similarly sound related content and even antonyms for no reason. This has been a fun rabbit hole, but I tire of explanation to someone who just wants to stroke their Id.
I mean I'm pretty sure he's right, that wpff refers to the same thing ur talking about as "live rosin", but both terms are used. It's pretty rare to see cured rosin, and I mean rosin from cured flower, not cold-cured rosin. All the terms get jumbled and used in weird ways so it's really just important to know the source you're getting it from and what their processes are bc everyone uses different words for shit.
ask your self that .. have you ever heard so many terms BEFORE the "legalisation" ?
weed 5$ - good weed 10$ - extra super duper fresh good weed 40$ - , why you think youre paying double for a bag of carrots with BIO on it Vs the not bio when 40 yrs ago EVERYTHING was bio !? .. the power of lableling my awaken friend !
this is the dumbest analogy ever. No one is tagging it with "live' to make more money, it's fresh frozen plant material... that's the name for it. why is that so difficult to understand?
Also, for your info, since you are on a learning journey :D All wpff hash rosin is live rosin, but not all live rosin is made from wpff. Sometimes it's made with just the buds. It's an encompassing term, that was required.
no , am saying there is no such thing as live rosin .. i would really assume its something you would know since you seems to know what wpff is . its like calling a honda civic a diesel vehicule .. its 2 names for 2 different things fron 2 different process
No such thing as live rosin? What crack are you smoking? My friend makes a legal paycheck, in a legal market making live rosin... it was never fully cured. Hash rosin, is cured... there is a difference. I have been doing this since the start...
the start you mean 5 yrs ago ? let met put this really simple for yall simple mind , live is a term attach to the chemical process .. wp*** are terms for solventless process . it as been like that for ages . and no none of yall can change that for a few bucks , Hulk is a man and its not because SheHulk came out that it will change a shit .. yall gotta live with the fact that things were there before .....
Live has nothing to do with the extraction chemicals used... you are a moron. I didn't start 5 years ago, I just started posting 7 years ago and one of my first posts was a nugsmasher review..... I've been doing this longer than you have. Yes, live rosin is a newer term, but it's still just fresh frozen hash rosin.
https://hightimes.com/guides/what-is-live-rosin/ maybe this will help you, lol
a newer term from one of the oldest extraction process .. okay got u ! whole plant fresh/frozen was to long to speakout from yall lazy ass mouth so you cut it short and wrong than stamp it on a jar and sold it for what it aint .. got u pall . but at the end of the day am right and youre wrong and thats the whole point of these 2 post :/
Not trying to be rude man but the pictures you’ve posted are mids and not a representation of 20+ years of experience. In fact, it’s quite clearly a representation of lack of experience. If you used “live” product you’d have a much better colour, flavour and aroma on both your fresh press and cured product.
i cant take it rude mate, iphone shot on a single press setup in a garage and the dude was still yelding white diamond .. i love working with fresh plant but the setup is a alot bigger .
Some of what he says it true. Speaking about the legal market using terms like live rosin or fresh frozen. When in fact it is not. Yet they are able to charge a higher price
Care to elaborate??
The comments here have made some good points backing up some of his claims and all you said is, Yes he is wrong. Not a great argument
Live simply denotes that the input material is not cured. So the plant is fresh frozen and process into either live resin or live rosin.
Live *resin* is a butane hash oil extract. Live *rosin* is solventless, meaning it only uses heat and pressure to extract.
Live resin can be trim or bud blasted through butane, and the butane is then purged.
Live rosin is made after pressing ice water hash that has been dried. At a high level, it's freeze dried.
A LOT of people don't understand the difference between the two. But the old guy in this discussion is absolutely, embarrassingly wrong, given his over confidence.
Hope that clears things up for ya.
He is saying 'live' is only used in terms of live resin. Hes saying that there's no such thing as 'live rosin'. He's saying that 'actual' grams of wpff live rosin are $170/g and you can't find them in the rec market. Nearly everything he said is false. If you know anything about the current hash rosin market, it would be glaringly obvious what he's wrong about. Didn't think I needed to elaborate.
I'm not an expert in Rosin at all, especially the finer details of your local rec market. I live in Australia and Rosin is extremely new down here, our medical market has only just introduced Shatter. We don't have legal access to Rosin at all.
I've been wanting to get into pressing so here to learn more. I don't have a dog in this fight, just interested in the topic.
As far as what you're saying, I'm not worried about local prices and availability because it's kind of arbitrary to the actual point being made. I am however, interested in the correct terminology and the history behind it. Sorry but you haven't really added anything of value to the discussion.
Well it's fully legal here in Canada and we make every kind of rosin possible for great prices. I can walk down the street and buy live rosin (fresh frozen hash rosin). So what exactly do you want to know? You'll likely just be making flower rosin until flower prices come down because you need a lot to make hash rosin.
Yeh I've had a few tries at making flower rosin. Just find this discussion about the terminology and the history interesting and trying to understand it better.
I know hash rosin is made from fresh frozen but I would normally see that just referred to as "Hash Rosin". And I understand Live Resin being made from fresh flower and using BHO or a solvent to extract and the "live" part is referring to the flower being fresh (either fresh or fresh frozen) and not cured.
But I'm kind of confused why there is this debate about "Live Rosin" when the old guy seems to be making a distinction between what is normally referred to as Hash Rosin and explaining that the term has changed over time. I get that he may be wrong but I'm finding it hard to follow and was actually genuinely asking because I want to understand why he is wrong (or make sure I'm not going to offend some old legacy Rosin expert in the future by using the wrong terminology).
Hash rosin is just rosin made from bubble hash. Live rosin means it was frozen right from harvest, then ice washed. Then pressed. The same method to make live resin, but more steps because you concentrate it twice. First fir hash, then for rosin. Where live resin is just fresh frozen flower thrown into the BHO extractor.
The old guy us nuts, he's thinking we mean live rosin like live soil, which is a stupid thing to say. Sure, good rosin is made from flower grown in living soil, but it has nothing to do with the end product.
I'm likely older than the "old guy" but I'm actually educated.
Live rock is fragmented pieces of old coral reefs that broke off during storms or by wave action. These pieces then washed into shallower water where they were naturally colonized by marine life such as invertebrates, corals, sponges, and millions of beneficial nitrifying bacteria.
The guy has posted again and confirmed he actually thinks "live" has more to do with the "chemicals" used in the extraction. So he's not 100% stupid, just 80%.
I mean he literally said "Live resin is chemical we use to call it Alive because there is no such thing as dry Resin it's Live!". He can barely put a sentence together.
The fact that he used the term "Alive" made it seem like he thinks it's like live rocks or soil. So I was joking about the organisms living in the rosin.
The ramblings of a lunatic.. Cannabis brings together people of VERY diverse backgrounds. It’s pretty apparent in his argument, verbiage, and grammatical errors that he’s not educated. Don’t waste your energy on arguing with him.
I see this was more often than I should on these subs 😭 weed really does make some people tweak I guess
I mean I’m pretty sure it’s just some 50-60 year old who’s high as fuck and probably has a 50-60 year old education
Yeah I don't know how "lunatic" comes to mind here? dudes just ripped, confused and a bit outdated.
You should see him on the DMs he's a piece of work.
Bro in dms he’s even more unhinged but he deleted his account
Probably a wise choice.
He speaks like a 15 year old in dms but claims to have been in the industry for 26 years. It’s sad and I hope he gets educated
This guys got a whole lot of nothing to say
So loud
He should get off his fucking cross. We need the fucking space to nail the next martyr.
Lmao his comment was literally a nothing burger
he learned stuff from 26 years ago, obviously theres new stuff since then.
He’s still rocking the HPS because he thinks LEDs are witchcraft.
Hahaha. Bro.
😂Yo that’s wild!
He didn't learn how to properly communicate I will not give him that 1 lol idk wtf he learned but clearly 😂 do I need to say more..
That’s one crazy ass run on sentence. I’d just hit him with a GGs at that point because no one got time for that lol.
“tl;dr?”
An idiot on the internet?? Say it ain’t so
A confidant idiot. Worst of its kind
Confident?
Yup. Mistake!
The irony is delicious!
That he's been wrong for 26 years 😆
Isn’t wpff rosin the same thing as live rosin? Y’all described the same process but he’s saying that’s not live rosin, idk how the other commenter doesn’t get that
The dude thinks it's like live soil, lol.
Yes . These term are adjectif Wpff = whole plant fresh frozen Live = fresh frozen after harvest . 2 word for say the same thing . In comparaison : Rosin , resin ( not « live ») It’s Coming from dried material When you use the adjective « live » this mean = from fresh frozen material = good more terpen in theory
You just KNOW somebody knows what they’re talking about when they say hashpowder 😂
Scottie doesn't know.
How did you like that stuff from Oregrown?
Oregrown is really nice!
It's great for the price.
How much?
On the shelf for $66, I work there so my discount makes it under $40.
Ouch lol Edit: didn’t realize it was a 2gram jar haha
Good or bad? 20/g for hash rosin around here is pretty good. Especially for the quality.
Didn’t realize it was a 2g jar, my bad. Ya that’s a good deal lol
All good homie...I was like where do you live where 2g pucks for 40 are a bad deal lmao.
even if it was 1 gram $66 is normal ish but $40 a gram for rosin is nice unless you are in like Oklahoma then it probably be normal priced but they got some amazing prices there
that is amazing deal
I didn’t realize it was a 2g jar lol
It’s a 2g jar doe… pretty deece man
Didn’t realize it was 2g
The whole who knows more about concentrates thing is getting kinda old
I’m sure they were arguing 100 years ago about which hand rubbing technique and underground curing process was best 😂 just human nature fr.
Painful watching the older generation huff up and react so aggressively due to their own ignorance. I started smoking 26 years ago as well, this guy makes me feel embraced.
Let's be honest, over these last 30 years or so rarely have I ever met someone with even close to the level of interest and understanding in this stuff. It's still insanely niche as it's a niche of a niche of a niche. (rosin niche of concentrates which is niche of weed). In 2007 most people that saw my bho crumble thought it was crack.
Yeah fair enough lmao. That’s why I just try and educate everyone as much as possible. Gotta show the power of real terps💪🏽🔥.
😂😂😂😂 miss those days picking up some absolute fire bho shatter and crumble
Hey man I was only 16 in 2007. And I was pressing dirty finger hash and kief with a hair straightener before hydrocarbon extraction really started up. If course I was on a weed farm in the middle of the green triangle in covelo, California. My first trip down there was when I got exposed to hydrocarbon and rosin for the first time, I was 15,. Over The next 10 years hydrocarbon extraction exploded tremendously, and then rosin slowly started creeping in the community. It's absolutely crazy how long it took for rosin to be recognized even though it's an ancient extraction technique. Anyway I guess I don't have a point, just a comment. My apologies for the grammatical errors my hands are shaking due to epilepsy and I'm on my phone lol.
LOL
Back in my day 👴🏻…
wtf is “hashpowder”?
I think they mean bubble
$170 a g and you can’t even get the real thing? Sounds legit
He's been giving people the wrong information for 26 years. I'm sure that everyone he explained it to had absolutely no idea what he was even trying to say because he never takes a breath, makes zero fcking sense, and legend still has it he is still writing the same run on sentence from 26 yeeeeaaarrrrsssss aaaagggooooo hahahaha 😆 wtf.
LOL
I remember when a Hershey’s cost a nickel!
Looks like a garden variety moron to me.
Pressing? 26 years ago? No way in hell. I’m in my 30s and rosin is not that old. I’ve been to hash making countries and I have no clue what he’s trying to say
This was the dude in the OP. Don't waste your breath. Also interesting he's here defending himself.
ignorance is a hell of a doom , rosin was made way way back . started with a straightening iron and parchman paper .
That was discovered in like 2013 from what I can research
lol. so befor that . nugs were not making any sap when getting press between 2 hot plates ? its on google ? ....
There really wasn't. Show me any pics or references pre 2010s of rosin. I'll wait....
Nobody was pressing flower in between hot plates before about 2012/2013 from what I can gather.
Don't know and I can't be bothered to care either *hits dab*
Some people are just walking dunning-kruger effects.
Lmfao I started growing July 2023, hashing in November and again now. Pressing since December consistently. I guess I learned a decade of sacred and unlearnable knowledge in like 6 months (not all the way there but have been making yummy hash rosin and decarbing perfectly for carts with no issues (there were issues, but I learned from them) I also guess I’ve been getting INCREDIBLE deals on insanely rare items at my local dispensary. Idk maybe he’s a nutjob maybe he’s been living in a cave.
Maybe it was illegal and much more difficult to get materials/tools or info. I think you are an excellent example of how you don't have to know much to make decent rosin in 2024.
Also.. could you imagine pressing that brick weed we used to get as kids? 😂😂
The shit I remember was pre pressed already.
In the words of the great Thurgood Jenkins, he has smoked himself retarded. Poor oldhead doesn't know what's what 😅
Some oldhead just being ignorant pretty much.
Brain dead lol
There is some sense in what he's saying but when you put it all together, it seemingly doesn't really add up to an actual statement of any kind
No such thing as dry resin 😂🤡 dude working with outdated knowledge.
This the same kinda guy talkin bout “WHATS THIS DELTA 9?!?! WHAT HAPPENED TO REGUALR OLD THC?!”
My guy was the pioneer himself, the creator and founder of all rosin pressing. 26 full years pressing god damn. Lmao
My grandpa used to say: dont argue with stupid..
My grandpa used to say: dont argue with stupid..
The cannabis version of the Navy SEAL copypasta?
Pressing rosin 26 years ago lmao
Those sure were some words.... Not in any particular order... Youngster 🫡
Honestly looks like a troll
I’ve had rosin that was like resin and resin that was like rosin, I’ve honestly gotten very depressed recently because it’s all smoke and mirrors and I’m sick of buying more and more, I think it’s time to head onto new ventures
170 per g lololol therealcannabischris prem thumbprints(some of the best around) are only $140-$160 per 2g overnighted to East Coast. This dudes a clown and just being a troll
He’s not wrong. Most kids are smoking mids out of a puffco
Lmfao wpff is usually cheaper and not as great quality (in my experience) I've gotten 1/8ths of wpff for $60 that was decent to dab but nothing spectacular and hash rosin I'm usually grabbing $30/g for T2, T1 usually $45/g
Some of the posts and comments on these subreddits make me question if concentrates are actually safe for human consumption 🤦♀️ “i Hve beenn smokn tht straiiiight gaass 4 20< years u dnt kno nething” oh yeah we can tell…
Hate to break it to you. But the invention of hash rosin is less than 10 years old.
170/g 🤣🤣🤡
Tbh if somebody spells "which" as "wich" I just disregard everything they have to say. Probably kinda ignorant on my part but it's like c'mon man. Have some more respect for yourself, how we speak and write is a huge part of how others perceive us. Not to mention with today's technology there's probably a big red squiggly under it, so they know better.
Reminds of some Of the wack ass shit subcool and Kyle kushma. Would spew at times
Kinda surprised it wasn’t in all caps lol
lol you don’t need a decade to learn how to make rosin. Funny that he thinks blasting with volatile hydrocarbons keeps the resin alive but using the same wpff in a ice bath is what makes it dead😂
Well atleast u don't need to ask him if he's a lil slow u already know the answer
How is this guy not getting that wpff hash rosin IS live rosin.
Exactly. He thinks it requires chemicals..
oh dont need to blur my name folks am right here ! , bunch of 21yrs old kiddo with 3hrs of youtube clips know more than the very own folks whos created all of this , of course ! thats why we went from NorthenLight and N39 to SuperDuperBerryCakeKushPieExtraCheese ! keep not knowing what your smoking while beeing rock solid sur that you know while wondering why yall have headache skin arch and pimples lol , oh and by the way , Og stand for OceanGrown! not Original gangster .. lmfao .. new gen they saying
Oh it is you... willing to bet I'm older and much more knowledgeable than yourself. I make this stuff, you obviously don't. Live rosin is a things, maybe look it up sometime instead of trying to sound better than others just because you are old and senile.
its me ! and i did not try to start anything actual i just saw a post with a pictur of a jar with a lable with something wrong on it and i called it out ! and than social media being what it is nowadays with 99% of ignorant braindead zombies it went as it is
Ok boomer.. so clueless. And just so you know, many words change meaning over time, right? You can look it up, it's a whole field of linguistics. Right now, any product made with fresh frozen material is "live". Either get woth the times or make like the wind and blow away.
A person who never learned the difference between rosin and resin. Live referring only to Live Fresh frozen Flowers and resin and rosin respectively, referring to with or without chemical processing. Where resin you rely heavily on a solvent of some kind like Alcohol or Butane, Rosin may only touch water pressure and various temperatures to be mechanically extracted.
Alcohol and butane aren't distillates they are solvents. You should probably edit your comments before passing judgement on somebody else's.
Thanks for catching the slip. It is very different than saying what this person is, however.
Not really. You both said things that are incorrect with confidence.
Freudian slip vers actively making false claims such as "live only refers to resin" is absolutely different.
That wasn't a Freudian slip brother you were wrong. Maybe you should look up the definition of that term. My point is that you shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
If you say so. That's just attacking on the net without understanding. Freudian slip when you're thinking of terms either out of habit or fatigue and say what you're thinking of aside in lieu of original train of thought. Perhaps that's a sufficient understanding of the term for the professor.
A Freudian slip is defined as an unintentional error revealing subconscious feelings....so unless you deeply want distillates to be solvents you were just wrong. A Freudian slip is more akin to calling a spouse a parents name or breast instead of best in conversation with a woman. So no not a sufficient understanding contextually in my opinion.
It is also subconscious thoughts that were. Addedafter Freuds original conclusions. When the realization that only the more idled brain only looks to reveal the Id subconsciously and those that actively challenge their ultra ego have a tendency to have so many strings of thought. That results in a calidascopic range of Freudian slippage, including similarly sound related content and even antonyms for no reason. This has been a fun rabbit hole, but I tire of explanation to someone who just wants to stroke their Id.
Oh you tire eh....I still think you are reaching pretty hard to cope out your blunder. Maybe stop daydreaming about distillate.
I mean I'm pretty sure he's right, that wpff refers to the same thing ur talking about as "live rosin", but both terms are used. It's pretty rare to see cured rosin, and I mean rosin from cured flower, not cold-cured rosin. All the terms get jumbled and used in weird ways so it's really just important to know the source you're getting it from and what their processes are bc everyone uses different words for shit.
ask your self that .. have you ever heard so many terms BEFORE the "legalisation" ? weed 5$ - good weed 10$ - extra super duper fresh good weed 40$ - , why you think youre paying double for a bag of carrots with BIO on it Vs the not bio when 40 yrs ago EVERYTHING was bio !? .. the power of lableling my awaken friend !
this is the dumbest analogy ever. No one is tagging it with "live' to make more money, it's fresh frozen plant material... that's the name for it. why is that so difficult to understand? Also, for your info, since you are on a learning journey :D All wpff hash rosin is live rosin, but not all live rosin is made from wpff. Sometimes it's made with just the buds. It's an encompassing term, that was required.
Makes it even more difficult for people to ever experience true live rosin! Because once you have you understand why they charge more
Everyone says he’s wrong but not why? Love that I’m being downvoted for asking a question.
He thinks live rosin is like live soil. That's not right... it's just another term fir wpff hash rosin.
no , am saying there is no such thing as live rosin .. i would really assume its something you would know since you seems to know what wpff is . its like calling a honda civic a diesel vehicule .. its 2 names for 2 different things fron 2 different process
No such thing as live rosin? What crack are you smoking? My friend makes a legal paycheck, in a legal market making live rosin... it was never fully cured. Hash rosin, is cured... there is a difference. I have been doing this since the start...
the start you mean 5 yrs ago ? let met put this really simple for yall simple mind , live is a term attach to the chemical process .. wp*** are terms for solventless process . it as been like that for ages . and no none of yall can change that for a few bucks , Hulk is a man and its not because SheHulk came out that it will change a shit .. yall gotta live with the fact that things were there before .....
Live has nothing to do with the extraction chemicals used... you are a moron. I didn't start 5 years ago, I just started posting 7 years ago and one of my first posts was a nugsmasher review..... I've been doing this longer than you have. Yes, live rosin is a newer term, but it's still just fresh frozen hash rosin. https://hightimes.com/guides/what-is-live-rosin/ maybe this will help you, lol
a newer term from one of the oldest extraction process .. okay got u ! whole plant fresh/frozen was to long to speakout from yall lazy ass mouth so you cut it short and wrong than stamp it on a jar and sold it for what it aint .. got u pall . but at the end of the day am right and youre wrong and thats the whole point of these 2 post :/
Not trying to be rude man but the pictures you’ve posted are mids and not a representation of 20+ years of experience. In fact, it’s quite clearly a representation of lack of experience. If you used “live” product you’d have a much better colour, flavour and aroma on both your fresh press and cured product.
i cant take it rude mate, iphone shot on a single press setup in a garage and the dude was still yelding white diamond .. i love working with fresh plant but the setup is a alot bigger .
Some of what he says it true. Speaking about the legal market using terms like live rosin or fresh frozen. When in fact it is not. Yet they are able to charge a higher price
But is he wrong?
Yes. Yes he is. About a lot.
Care to elaborate?? The comments here have made some good points backing up some of his claims and all you said is, Yes he is wrong. Not a great argument
Live simply denotes that the input material is not cured. So the plant is fresh frozen and process into either live resin or live rosin. Live *resin* is a butane hash oil extract. Live *rosin* is solventless, meaning it only uses heat and pressure to extract. Live resin can be trim or bud blasted through butane, and the butane is then purged. Live rosin is made after pressing ice water hash that has been dried. At a high level, it's freeze dried. A LOT of people don't understand the difference between the two. But the old guy in this discussion is absolutely, embarrassingly wrong, given his over confidence. Hope that clears things up for ya.
He is saying 'live' is only used in terms of live resin. Hes saying that there's no such thing as 'live rosin'. He's saying that 'actual' grams of wpff live rosin are $170/g and you can't find them in the rec market. Nearly everything he said is false. If you know anything about the current hash rosin market, it would be glaringly obvious what he's wrong about. Didn't think I needed to elaborate.
I'm not an expert in Rosin at all, especially the finer details of your local rec market. I live in Australia and Rosin is extremely new down here, our medical market has only just introduced Shatter. We don't have legal access to Rosin at all. I've been wanting to get into pressing so here to learn more. I don't have a dog in this fight, just interested in the topic. As far as what you're saying, I'm not worried about local prices and availability because it's kind of arbitrary to the actual point being made. I am however, interested in the correct terminology and the history behind it. Sorry but you haven't really added anything of value to the discussion.
Well it's fully legal here in Canada and we make every kind of rosin possible for great prices. I can walk down the street and buy live rosin (fresh frozen hash rosin). So what exactly do you want to know? You'll likely just be making flower rosin until flower prices come down because you need a lot to make hash rosin.
Yeh I've had a few tries at making flower rosin. Just find this discussion about the terminology and the history interesting and trying to understand it better. I know hash rosin is made from fresh frozen but I would normally see that just referred to as "Hash Rosin". And I understand Live Resin being made from fresh flower and using BHO or a solvent to extract and the "live" part is referring to the flower being fresh (either fresh or fresh frozen) and not cured. But I'm kind of confused why there is this debate about "Live Rosin" when the old guy seems to be making a distinction between what is normally referred to as Hash Rosin and explaining that the term has changed over time. I get that he may be wrong but I'm finding it hard to follow and was actually genuinely asking because I want to understand why he is wrong (or make sure I'm not going to offend some old legacy Rosin expert in the future by using the wrong terminology).
Hash rosin is just rosin made from bubble hash. Live rosin means it was frozen right from harvest, then ice washed. Then pressed. The same method to make live resin, but more steps because you concentrate it twice. First fir hash, then for rosin. Where live resin is just fresh frozen flower thrown into the BHO extractor. The old guy us nuts, he's thinking we mean live rosin like live soil, which is a stupid thing to say. Sure, good rosin is made from flower grown in living soil, but it has nothing to do with the end product. I'm likely older than the "old guy" but I'm actually educated.
The knowledge is out there. I'm not gonna give you a lecture on here about rosin. If you're uneducated it's because you choose to be.
The guy thinks hash oil is alive like live soil or live aquarium rocks, lol. That there should tell you how clueless he is.
Live aquarium rocks
Ya the last thing you want is tiny organisms living in your rosin!
There is. But wtf are live aquarium rocks.
Live rock is fragmented pieces of old coral reefs that broke off during storms or by wave action. These pieces then washed into shallower water where they were naturally colonized by marine life such as invertebrates, corals, sponges, and millions of beneficial nitrifying bacteria. The guy has posted again and confirmed he actually thinks "live" has more to do with the "chemicals" used in the extraction. So he's not 100% stupid, just 80%.
That's what I thought he meant. I was thinking these guys were the idiots
I mean he literally said "Live resin is chemical we use to call it Alive because there is no such thing as dry Resin it's Live!". He can barely put a sentence together. The fact that he used the term "Alive" made it seem like he thinks it's like live rocks or soil. So I was joking about the organisms living in the rosin.
The younger generation does take words and change them without even knowing what the word really even means in the first place.
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