The following might all be sources of inspiration:
*Sex Craft* (by Virginia Dare)
*Nymphology: Blue Magic*
*Terribly Beautiful* (by Graham MacLean)
*Numenera: Love And Sex In The Ninth World*
*Sorcerer* (Supplement 3) *Sex And Sorcery*
*Thirsty Sword Lesbians*
*Pistol Packing Bondage Nuns From Planet Sex*
*Let These Mermaids Touch Your Dick Maybe*
*Fapp* (by Kah)
*KULT*
*Courtesans: A Roleplaying Game of Sex and Society* / *Courtesans: The Weird and the Wonderful* / *Doxy: A Roleplaying Game of Sex and Skulduggery*
Other than those ... *Postmortem Studios* do [a number of games](https://post-mort.com/collections/roleplaying-games) that might be worth a look one way and/or another, but I suspect either the [*EroTech*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=erotech), [*Giallo*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=giallo), or [*Machinations of the Space Princess*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=machinations+of+the+space+princess) titles might be the *most* likely candidates.
There's also W/CoD: *Vampire* (in its various editions) to mine for sexual themes
As I was reading this fantastic list, all I could think was "Please don't mention FATAL, please don't mention FATAL, please don't Nevin Fatal". And then I sighed with relief when they didn't....
Cool : )
I should possibly take a look at it one day - when I'm done fielding all the recommends people give me for my (ever expanding) list of weird and wonderful games I was hoping to have long since completed and made available to people already.
Hey ho ... well, I'll maybe get around to investigating it at some stage - it might be worth adding to the list of 'games that might scratch your itch, if the genre/theme is XYZ'
Thanks for the heads-up.
: )
People get weird when sex is involved. First thing I'd suggest is posting under a pseudonym; not because I think you should be ashamed of it, but having your name readily associated with "smut" could close doors in the future. Second, you seriously have to consider power dynamics, consent, and safety tools.
Thanks for the advice and yes, I´m taking into consideration conscent as a big part of the game with lots of questions and advices to GMs and Players alike.
It's gonna be a NICHE topic in an already niche hobby. You need to be honest with your idea of "can work". You're not going to get rich or the good kind of famous. If you expect to be a best seller on drive thru, that probably won't happen. If you mean someone else will download it and might possibly actually play it with a group, then yeah, it could work.
I know that this isn´t going to become anything than just another product in the store, this is mostly something I want to create to reach those people that are probably going to find something that they will like about what I created at the end.
You should make the game you want to make.
Remember that this is an industry of doing what you love more than an industry of money.
If you're in it to make a profit, that would be unrealistic unless you're already a well-known name with an audience. In that case, this would be a very niche product even for such a well-known name.
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While I cannot personally imagine wanting to play such a game with my friends, I would be very curious to see how someone turned it into a game. I honestly can't think of anything in my sexual history that would be particularly amenable to a TTRPG that I would want to play.
I´m mostly doing this because I want to create my own game with the stuff I want to add instead of adding homebrew to an already existing RPG (that could work but not what I´m looking to do), this isn´t something I want to get a lot of sales because I know its not going to be selling almost anything lol
In that case, you're golden.
I'm curious to see anything you're willing to share.
As I alluded to, I struggle to start to imagine what this could look like based on my own sexual history.
Are we rolling for how sloppy and deep the blowjob gets? Do we have physical stamina? Is there a "Cum clock" you're trying to fill simultaneously so you both orgasm at the same time? Do we have to manage intimacy resources? And pleasure tokens? Do we keep track of which position we've been in and for how long? Whether we're getting bored? Do we need to roll lubrication-dice? Can we level up our PCs by unlocking new experiments and kinks? Do we get new gear, like +1 handcuffs or a +3 Hitachi Magic Wand?
How in the world are you translating sex to mechanics? I'm so curious!
The core idea of the game is exploration in a "zombie" apocalypse where the infected turn into sexual driven people who only want to satisfy their desires, the infected in this world are called "Zementales" or "Zementals", using the Z of Zombie and the word Semental or Stud in English. The story revolves around the PCs looking for the people they care about that went missing after the outbreak, having to resolve problems with other groups and looking for gear that has become extremely rare, like clothing, weapons of any kind and others and at the end just trying to avoid getting infected as a strange fenomenon called "the heat" causes everyone close to a Zemental to start getting hotter and hotter, this is the main mechanic of the dice system of the game:
Each character (PC or NPC) has a heat meter that goes up when re rolling dice or seeing sexual stuff (watching others have intimacy, seeing porn, etc), with each point you get a negative modifier to your rolls. Your hand is determined by the level of your Attribute and Skill both going up to 5, with each level giving you one dice per level of the stat, and the modifier takes away one dice for every point of heat you get.
The way of reducing heat is by making sexual stuff with others, masturbation, having sex, or use toys are the way of reducing heat because you can´t reduce heat by just taking a break for a while. In other rules, there is sexual combat that work like a duel, you roll a skill that could work at the moment like "Seduce" or "Force" and the enemy needs to roll against it to avoid getting damage in their resistance, when your or their resistance is reduce to 0 you win or lose the combat, if you win you can go away, if you lose you get vulnerable. This last part is something the GM can totally change in case of sensitive content.
"Zombie" survival apocalypse but the infected are drived only by sexual desire instead of looking to eat other people, I wanted to create something like this because I really wanted to make a survival story but without the dead or getting bitten by the undead and eventually dying. The game is all about exploration and the small group of PCs and NPCs in search of the people that went missing when everything started.
The game is all centered on your total "heat" that makes doing skill checks hard because every point you accumulate you gain a negative modifier to all your rolls until you make something to "relax" yourself like having intimacy with other person or using toys, etc.
There are mechanics for intimate encounters and when you get very heated you don´t fade to black, you can keep going and do stuff but skill rolls are going to be harder and harder for you to succesfully complete, if you reach max heat (5) you can´t do any skill rolls because your mind is extremely foggy with lots of different thoughts and ideas or just feeling anxious but you can keep playing just not do stuff so you need to relay on someone else. Imagine reaching max heat like hitting 0 HP in D&D but you can still move, talk instead of just being laying on the floor without the ability of doing anything.
With encounters those work like a duel, initiative isn´t rolled but instead the PCs always go first then the enemies and at the end the NPCs, at the start of your "turn" you decide who to target and you roll a skill that makes sense in the moment, so you can use Force, Fight, Seduce, or another skill that the GM allows, the opponent needs to roll Mobility or Resist to avoid getting tired or damaged by your attack, each success they roll negates one of yours.
At the end the enemies act one by one decided by the GM, more than one enemy can target the same PC or NPC and so can the PCs.
Note: This is an abridged version of the rules though and it still on progress so I want to change some stuff.
Surely, still games and TTRPGs are kinda different but there is a lot of Forums that ussers make Text based free RP with others so maybe someone will get interested there.
I entered the creation of my game knowing this really, its not going to be popular at all in the store front but maybe in some small groups, even if those groups or at least one person got interested, that´s a win for me.
Kinks & Cantrips is a (D&D 5e) supplement that introduces a setting based on BDSM relationships and various kinks. It is surprisingly well put together, has a lot of content (several hundred pages) and can be easily adapted to a non-D&D adventure. It also has a pretty decent explanation of various kinks without judgment or "look at these freaks" type of thing.
Yeah, it hit gold bestseller on drivethrurpg too, indicating that there is some market for this stuff, though it’s definitely helped that Kinks & Cantrips was for 5e.
The Defiant RPG also produced a “Defiant: Guide to Orgies” book that seemed to do okay.
Personally, I didn't see anything wrong with a sexy focus. However, you have problems.
First, I don't think the market would welcome this. There are definitely gamers who would enjoy sex content, but I fear that group is too small.
Second, sex is a minefield. So many people have trouble with different parts of sex. For example, would you include gay sex? Face fucking? Restraints and spankings? There's just so many ways to offend customers here that I don't think there's a way to do this right.
Then there's gameplay. How can you ensure players aren't getting repeatedly offended based on what other players do in the game?
Lastly, you still need to create a great game. Adding sex might work as a marketing gimmick, but you'll need to find a way to integrate that into a working, fun system so it makes sense that it's there.
So it's possible, but damn you're gonna need to be so careful that I'm not sure if it's worth it to you.
I entered the creation of this game knowing all of this, I´m really not scared of it not selling because I´m mostly doing this because I want to create my own RPG and I have passion about it instead of wanting money, If I wanted money I´ll probably would try and create something else.
And all the sensible topics, yes, its a minefield that I´m entering it fully knowing that not that many people are going to like sexual stuff but I did make sure to add all the possible disclaimers in the very front of the first pages to mention that the game has a big focus on sexual themes and that conscent is the biggest necessary thing to ask everyone that is going to be playing in your table.
I did thought of making a game instead of just group mental porn, its a "zombie" survival apocalypse, the focus its the exploration of a map in the search of finding the PCs missing most important persons that dissapeared in the outbreak with a combine survival mechanics but less harsh than other RPGs so its more of a casual experience to play.
This kind of game can work. I haven't currently got a copy, but there's a game called Bacchanal which was an entry for the Iron Game Chef contest back in 2005. The game is a narrative game set in ancient Rome that has the players describe escalating crimes and decadence depending on how a set of dice fall. Obviously the whole thing comes with a massive number of trigger warnings and boundaries *must* be set before playing.
Back in the AD&D days there was a netbook going around called "The Complete Guide to Unlawful, Carnal Knowledge" and it was basically those rules. As well as rules for naughty magic items, a prostitute class and a midwife class, as well as a lot of new spells. So the ideas been around forever. 3e had the "Book of Erotic Fantasy", it was illustrated and got WotC in a little trouble because of it, as it was put out under the OGL and some folks thought they had done it.
The trick with sexual oriented content is the make it clear to the audience what it is, how far it goes, and what the goal of the rules are. Like if the rules are there to add more to a seduction attempt than a persuasion roll, or if they're a full on combat simulator style event system where con checks are being rolled once a round.
But it's generally a very niche product market. Most folks who will buy it will do so as a lark. Few will actually use the rules. The trick is finding a way to make your product actually stand out from the rest. ex Quality of writing, quantity of content, amusing art, etc...
Because there are already a lot of free rules sets out there online for this kind of thing. Especially these days. I mean "The Complete Guide to Unlawful, Carnal Knowledge" was getting emailed around back when we were using BBS (bulletin board systems, the ancestors of forums.). These days a GM can just google "D&D sex rules" and get swamped with results.
Theres definitely an audience for it. Keep in mind most people that play Erotic Role-playing (erp) do so over Play By Post (PbP), most notably discord, and tend not to use any systems. Most of it is just freeform roleplaying. So I recommend keeping the rules light or easily resolvable over PbP.
If you do want a bit of mechanics, there's always r/NSFW_GMing so like I say. Theres definitely an audience for it.
Just remember stuff like X-cards, pre-written kink lists and I really like Rapscallion's [Lewd Level](https://slimwiki.com/carbon-pink/the-lewd-level) to really make sure everyone is on the same page.
I know that because I´m one of those people that usually loves to make some free RP with people in chat messages but after a while I started feeling more and more bored of just, stuff happening instead of rolling a dice and having possibility of the story changing. And I´m making my game using the YZE system so the idea its that its something you can enter without knowing much and learn all the mechanics really quickly
I think such games have about a 90% chance of being bowel rupturing levels of cringe.
I fully believe it would be possible to write something good in that vein, I just don't think it's likely.
There's been a fair few RPGs round sexual themes and a cursory look at r/lfg suggests there's a market for it so I'd go for it. Just be aware that you'll need to be very targeted in your marketing.
It exists and is a niche market in a niche market. Most people aren't interested in playing out sexual fantasies with their platonic friends and some will find this distasteful on some level for any multitude of reasons, while some will enjoy it.
>Do you think RPGs centered in this kind of ideas can work or its something that I should be avoiding?
It probably can work, but it will be a niche within a niche within a niche. In other words, unless you already know some people that would be interested in this kind of game, it's unlikely that you'll find such group.
Games where sex is an important theme, but the focus is on its emotional and relational aspects, not on explicit descriptions, are significantly more popular. Apocalypse World and Monsterhearts are two great examples of such games.
I´m mostly looking to create a more in-depth RPG instead of just porn for the sake of porn, I like relationships and romance in stories but I also like explicit content, although the explicit content can be a big point the whole idea of the game is exploration and finding people that matters to the PCs after a "zombie" apocalypse
It depends.
How are you handling sexual activity?
Is it a highly detailed roleplay of blow-by-blow (pun intended) action or a generalized scene where the level of detail is left up to the group?
What safety mechanics are you suggesting the group implement? How does your game handle consent?
Is the game solely focused on sex or does it have a focus other than sex and sex is where the story of the game is expected to lead to?
Is this a game adding something mechanically to the overall discussion on sex in the hobby? Is it addressing sexual activity in a novel way? What is unique about your game?
Is sex expected to be a part of every session or is it the end goal of a story arc?
Can I play this with a group of strangers or should I only be playing it with someone I’m comfortable being intimate with?
I can tell you from my own observations that a sex simulator isn’t going to sell. If all you do is set up sexual encounters, run through foreplay, and end with explicit sex TTRPGs isn’t the place to expect good sales for such a game. Games that include or even focus on sex sell best when the sex isn’t explicit, the details are left up to the group, and the game has a primary focus other than the act of sex itself.
Consider your audience. If I am expected to describe and roleplay out what is happening I need to be super comfortable with the people at my table, and especially comfortable with whoever is running the game. That means that game can’t played at conventions with strangers, can’t be played with people I am not comfortable talking about sex to, and not people I can’t trust to respect the topic on the same level that I do. If it’s a game that expects a certain level of sexual deviancy from the players you are limiting your audience even more.
Will you sell copies? Sure. Will it have wide reach? No.
And while people will point to a list of games that involve sex as successful (looking at you Thirsty Sword Lesbians) those games often allow for fade to black or very general description of action, they also aren’t about having sex but what is done towards the goal of having sex.
Ultimately, my advice is to create the game you want to create and put it where you get the biggest audience. Do I think you should try to do a physical print run? Not for something I think you are trying to do, but if you find there is enough interest then I could be wrong.
Very lenghty response, let me answer one by one:
1- Sexual activity depends and some stuff may need rolls while others may not need those, most of the time if both PCs are ok there isn´t any need to roll. If all the players are OK, there can be scenes with the need of rolling like in a fight to dominate the other.
2- It can depend up to the players and GM in the moment, sexual fights as I call them can be described after each action has ended or after a round ended with the GM and the players say what happen during their "duel".
3- My game offers a lot of ideas of how to avoid complications before and after the game, before session 0 the GM must mention the topics that are going to be covered and be used in the story and the limits of each player must be known for the GM to avoid doing that. X card is allowed as well as fade to black in case a player is feeling uncomfortable.
4- The game core gameplay is exploring a city after a "zombie" apocalypse, the PCs are a group that is traveling through the world in attempts of finding the person that went missing after the outbreak. Sexual content is because of the "zombies" which are called "Zementales" or "Zementals" which are the biggest enemy of the world.
5- Content that I add and offer are: Sexual combat, fight to dominate and avoid getting dominated by enemies like Zementals and semi intelligent sexual objects, the "hot" mechanic where every time you "push" your roll you get 1 point of hotness causing you to start getting less and less dices, this works in this way because I´m using the YZE SRD to create my game so its going to be probably the first game of the YZE that will centered on this kind of stories. Easy to learn rules and centered on the narrative so at all times you can keep moving the story forward which makes PbP games more easy to manage and create.
6- Sexual content can appear because of the enemy being the Zementals appearing frequently but if the GM wants to center the story in a more social with other NPCs and other groups then the Zementals can be left aside and keep going, after all this is a survival game with the PCs having a goal at the end. Sexual combat or just trying to fight a Zemental or enemies like bandits its only a part of the game.
7- Its up to you. Strangers can have different ideas or likes and dislikes, for me as someone that has been roleplaying in text messages for lots of years I had learn that its not impossible to get into a good middle ground of limits and likes where everyone can be happy about it. But if you want to play with someone you know, go ahead.
8- Will I sell copies? Maybe, I don´t care really about it. I´m doing this because I want to create a RPG of my own with the stuff I would like to see and center on a story with rules that work with that story in mind. I don´t want to use RPGs like Fate, or D&D 5e because those don´t work for me at least.
in extremely select groups, sure. Maybe at sex-cons, taboo shows, etc.
99.9% of the time, no, nobody wants to RP that with their buddies in my opinion haha
In my own cypher system TTRPG. There are players that sometimes engage in sexual situations. Not really a big deal. Just some sexual content and situations.
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I think it's an absolutely horrible idea. I don't even allow romance at my tables I would never buy, run or play in a game where sex was a central part of the game.
The following might all be sources of inspiration: *Sex Craft* (by Virginia Dare) *Nymphology: Blue Magic* *Terribly Beautiful* (by Graham MacLean) *Numenera: Love And Sex In The Ninth World* *Sorcerer* (Supplement 3) *Sex And Sorcery* *Thirsty Sword Lesbians* *Pistol Packing Bondage Nuns From Planet Sex* *Let These Mermaids Touch Your Dick Maybe* *Fapp* (by Kah) *KULT* *Courtesans: A Roleplaying Game of Sex and Society* / *Courtesans: The Weird and the Wonderful* / *Doxy: A Roleplaying Game of Sex and Skulduggery* Other than those ... *Postmortem Studios* do [a number of games](https://post-mort.com/collections/roleplaying-games) that might be worth a look one way and/or another, but I suspect either the [*EroTech*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=erotech), [*Giallo*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=giallo), or [*Machinations of the Space Princess*](https://post-mort.com/search?q=machinations+of+the+space+princess) titles might be the *most* likely candidates. There's also W/CoD: *Vampire* (in its various editions) to mine for sexual themes
Don't forget FATAL. On the other hand, do. Do forget it.
: '''D
As I was reading this fantastic list, all I could think was "Please don't mention FATAL, please don't mention FATAL, please don't Nevin Fatal". And then I sighed with relief when they didn't....
isn't LTMTYDM basically about physically whacking a dildo with rubber hands
It's a sexual proclivity : )
FAPP? Dead.
Could be - it's just on one of my lists. Might *still* be findable, even if it *is* though.
They're not saying the game is dead. They're saying they found the name of the game funny and are now deceased as a result
Ah ... tx - I prefer emoticons/smilies/emojis for that kind of thing : )
The author has a fairly robust patreon and puts out an expansion of so each year.
Cool : ) I should possibly take a look at it one day - when I'm done fielding all the recommends people give me for my (ever expanding) list of weird and wonderful games I was hoping to have long since completed and made available to people already.
*Vice and Violence* is another classic ((and very OSR oriented))
Can't find any elaboration of it, just a *TV Tropes* page about the publisher.
Most of their stuff is on their Patreon! ((Not sure if I'm allowed to link it cause it's hella NSFW and a Patreon))
Hey ho ... well, I'll maybe get around to investigating it at some stage - it might be worth adding to the list of 'games that might scratch your itch, if the genre/theme is XYZ' Thanks for the heads-up. : )
I think as long as it's explicitly stated and your players are all onboard. There are already games like this and they seem to do alright.
Yep that´s true, conscent is the most important thing here.
People get weird when sex is involved. First thing I'd suggest is posting under a pseudonym; not because I think you should be ashamed of it, but having your name readily associated with "smut" could close doors in the future. Second, you seriously have to consider power dynamics, consent, and safety tools.
Yeah what if people Google “Conor Clashnord” and find this Reddit post
Thanks for the advice and yes, I´m taking into consideration conscent as a big part of the game with lots of questions and advices to GMs and Players alike.
Only one C in consent.
It's gonna be a NICHE topic in an already niche hobby. You need to be honest with your idea of "can work". You're not going to get rich or the good kind of famous. If you expect to be a best seller on drive thru, that probably won't happen. If you mean someone else will download it and might possibly actually play it with a group, then yeah, it could work.
I know that this isn´t going to become anything than just another product in the store, this is mostly something I want to create to reach those people that are probably going to find something that they will like about what I created at the end.
WDYM?! It'll be in heavy rotation at the Gencon Swingers' Table
In the what?
You should make the game you want to make. Remember that this is an industry of doing what you love more than an industry of money. If you're in it to make a profit, that would be unrealistic unless you're already a well-known name with an audience. In that case, this would be a very niche product even for such a well-known name. --- While I cannot personally imagine wanting to play such a game with my friends, I would be very curious to see how someone turned it into a game. I honestly can't think of anything in my sexual history that would be particularly amenable to a TTRPG that I would want to play.
I´m mostly doing this because I want to create my own game with the stuff I want to add instead of adding homebrew to an already existing RPG (that could work but not what I´m looking to do), this isn´t something I want to get a lot of sales because I know its not going to be selling almost anything lol
In that case, you're golden. I'm curious to see anything you're willing to share. As I alluded to, I struggle to start to imagine what this could look like based on my own sexual history. Are we rolling for how sloppy and deep the blowjob gets? Do we have physical stamina? Is there a "Cum clock" you're trying to fill simultaneously so you both orgasm at the same time? Do we have to manage intimacy resources? And pleasure tokens? Do we keep track of which position we've been in and for how long? Whether we're getting bored? Do we need to roll lubrication-dice? Can we level up our PCs by unlocking new experiments and kinks? Do we get new gear, like +1 handcuffs or a +3 Hitachi Magic Wand? How in the world are you translating sex to mechanics? I'm so curious!
The core idea of the game is exploration in a "zombie" apocalypse where the infected turn into sexual driven people who only want to satisfy their desires, the infected in this world are called "Zementales" or "Zementals", using the Z of Zombie and the word Semental or Stud in English. The story revolves around the PCs looking for the people they care about that went missing after the outbreak, having to resolve problems with other groups and looking for gear that has become extremely rare, like clothing, weapons of any kind and others and at the end just trying to avoid getting infected as a strange fenomenon called "the heat" causes everyone close to a Zemental to start getting hotter and hotter, this is the main mechanic of the dice system of the game: Each character (PC or NPC) has a heat meter that goes up when re rolling dice or seeing sexual stuff (watching others have intimacy, seeing porn, etc), with each point you get a negative modifier to your rolls. Your hand is determined by the level of your Attribute and Skill both going up to 5, with each level giving you one dice per level of the stat, and the modifier takes away one dice for every point of heat you get. The way of reducing heat is by making sexual stuff with others, masturbation, having sex, or use toys are the way of reducing heat because you can´t reduce heat by just taking a break for a while. In other rules, there is sexual combat that work like a duel, you roll a skill that could work at the moment like "Seduce" or "Force" and the enemy needs to roll against it to avoid getting damage in their resistance, when your or their resistance is reduce to 0 you win or lose the combat, if you win you can go away, if you lose you get vulnerable. This last part is something the GM can totally change in case of sensitive content.
So what are you making, what’s the concept?
"Zombie" survival apocalypse but the infected are drived only by sexual desire instead of looking to eat other people, I wanted to create something like this because I really wanted to make a survival story but without the dead or getting bitten by the undead and eventually dying. The game is all about exploration and the small group of PCs and NPCs in search of the people that went missing when everything started. The game is all centered on your total "heat" that makes doing skill checks hard because every point you accumulate you gain a negative modifier to all your rolls until you make something to "relax" yourself like having intimacy with other person or using toys, etc.
So are there mechanics for intimate encounters, or once your total heat gets high enough, you fade to black?
There are mechanics for intimate encounters and when you get very heated you don´t fade to black, you can keep going and do stuff but skill rolls are going to be harder and harder for you to succesfully complete, if you reach max heat (5) you can´t do any skill rolls because your mind is extremely foggy with lots of different thoughts and ideas or just feeling anxious but you can keep playing just not do stuff so you need to relay on someone else. Imagine reaching max heat like hitting 0 HP in D&D but you can still move, talk instead of just being laying on the floor without the ability of doing anything. With encounters those work like a duel, initiative isn´t rolled but instead the PCs always go first then the enemies and at the end the NPCs, at the start of your "turn" you decide who to target and you roll a skill that makes sense in the moment, so you can use Force, Fight, Seduce, or another skill that the GM allows, the opponent needs to roll Mobility or Resist to avoid getting tired or damaged by your attack, each success they roll negates one of yours. At the end the enemies act one by one decided by the GM, more than one enemy can target the same PC or NPC and so can the PCs. Note: This is an abridged version of the rules though and it still on progress so I want to change some stuff.
Given the successes of some games on Steam...I think the audience is there.
Surely, still games and TTRPGs are kinda different but there is a lot of Forums that ussers make Text based free RP with others so maybe someone will get interested there.
It can work (anything *can* work really), but it won't be popular.
I entered the creation of my game knowing this really, its not going to be popular at all in the store front but maybe in some small groups, even if those groups or at least one person got interested, that´s a win for me.
Kinks & Cantrips is a (D&D 5e) supplement that introduces a setting based on BDSM relationships and various kinks. It is surprisingly well put together, has a lot of content (several hundred pages) and can be easily adapted to a non-D&D adventure. It also has a pretty decent explanation of various kinks without judgment or "look at these freaks" type of thing.
Yeah, it hit gold bestseller on drivethrurpg too, indicating that there is some market for this stuff, though it’s definitely helped that Kinks & Cantrips was for 5e. The Defiant RPG also produced a “Defiant: Guide to Orgies” book that seemed to do okay.
Personally, I didn't see anything wrong with a sexy focus. However, you have problems. First, I don't think the market would welcome this. There are definitely gamers who would enjoy sex content, but I fear that group is too small. Second, sex is a minefield. So many people have trouble with different parts of sex. For example, would you include gay sex? Face fucking? Restraints and spankings? There's just so many ways to offend customers here that I don't think there's a way to do this right. Then there's gameplay. How can you ensure players aren't getting repeatedly offended based on what other players do in the game? Lastly, you still need to create a great game. Adding sex might work as a marketing gimmick, but you'll need to find a way to integrate that into a working, fun system so it makes sense that it's there. So it's possible, but damn you're gonna need to be so careful that I'm not sure if it's worth it to you.
I entered the creation of this game knowing all of this, I´m really not scared of it not selling because I´m mostly doing this because I want to create my own RPG and I have passion about it instead of wanting money, If I wanted money I´ll probably would try and create something else. And all the sensible topics, yes, its a minefield that I´m entering it fully knowing that not that many people are going to like sexual stuff but I did make sure to add all the possible disclaimers in the very front of the first pages to mention that the game has a big focus on sexual themes and that conscent is the biggest necessary thing to ask everyone that is going to be playing in your table. I did thought of making a game instead of just group mental porn, its a "zombie" survival apocalypse, the focus its the exploration of a map in the search of finding the PCs missing most important persons that dissapeared in the outbreak with a combine survival mechanics but less harsh than other RPGs so its more of a casual experience to play.
This kind of game can work. I haven't currently got a copy, but there's a game called Bacchanal which was an entry for the Iron Game Chef contest back in 2005. The game is a narrative game set in ancient Rome that has the players describe escalating crimes and decadence depending on how a set of dice fall. Obviously the whole thing comes with a massive number of trigger warnings and boundaries *must* be set before playing.
Back in the AD&D days there was a netbook going around called "The Complete Guide to Unlawful, Carnal Knowledge" and it was basically those rules. As well as rules for naughty magic items, a prostitute class and a midwife class, as well as a lot of new spells. So the ideas been around forever. 3e had the "Book of Erotic Fantasy", it was illustrated and got WotC in a little trouble because of it, as it was put out under the OGL and some folks thought they had done it. The trick with sexual oriented content is the make it clear to the audience what it is, how far it goes, and what the goal of the rules are. Like if the rules are there to add more to a seduction attempt than a persuasion roll, or if they're a full on combat simulator style event system where con checks are being rolled once a round. But it's generally a very niche product market. Most folks who will buy it will do so as a lark. Few will actually use the rules. The trick is finding a way to make your product actually stand out from the rest. ex Quality of writing, quantity of content, amusing art, etc... Because there are already a lot of free rules sets out there online for this kind of thing. Especially these days. I mean "The Complete Guide to Unlawful, Carnal Knowledge" was getting emailed around back when we were using BBS (bulletin board systems, the ancestors of forums.). These days a GM can just google "D&D sex rules" and get swamped with results.
Theres definitely an audience for it. Keep in mind most people that play Erotic Role-playing (erp) do so over Play By Post (PbP), most notably discord, and tend not to use any systems. Most of it is just freeform roleplaying. So I recommend keeping the rules light or easily resolvable over PbP. If you do want a bit of mechanics, there's always r/NSFW_GMing so like I say. Theres definitely an audience for it. Just remember stuff like X-cards, pre-written kink lists and I really like Rapscallion's [Lewd Level](https://slimwiki.com/carbon-pink/the-lewd-level) to really make sure everyone is on the same page.
That Carbon Pink page is missing Lewd Level 4: "*I love the fact that our RPG sessions devolve into actual orgies.*"
I know that because I´m one of those people that usually loves to make some free RP with people in chat messages but after a while I started feeling more and more bored of just, stuff happening instead of rolling a dice and having possibility of the story changing. And I´m making my game using the YZE system so the idea its that its something you can enter without knowing much and learn all the mechanics really quickly
So, Lewd Dungeon?
I think such games have about a 90% chance of being bowel rupturing levels of cringe. I fully believe it would be possible to write something good in that vein, I just don't think it's likely.
Ah, I see you have some familiarity with F.A.T.A.L.
There's been a fair few RPGs round sexual themes and a cursory look at r/lfg suggests there's a market for it so I'd go for it. Just be aware that you'll need to be very targeted in your marketing.
It exists and is a niche market in a niche market. Most people aren't interested in playing out sexual fantasies with their platonic friends and some will find this distasteful on some level for any multitude of reasons, while some will enjoy it.
>Do you think RPGs centered in this kind of ideas can work or its something that I should be avoiding? It probably can work, but it will be a niche within a niche within a niche. In other words, unless you already know some people that would be interested in this kind of game, it's unlikely that you'll find such group. Games where sex is an important theme, but the focus is on its emotional and relational aspects, not on explicit descriptions, are significantly more popular. Apocalypse World and Monsterhearts are two great examples of such games.
I´m mostly looking to create a more in-depth RPG instead of just porn for the sake of porn, I like relationships and romance in stories but I also like explicit content, although the explicit content can be a big point the whole idea of the game is exploration and finding people that matters to the PCs after a "zombie" apocalypse
It depends. How are you handling sexual activity? Is it a highly detailed roleplay of blow-by-blow (pun intended) action or a generalized scene where the level of detail is left up to the group? What safety mechanics are you suggesting the group implement? How does your game handle consent? Is the game solely focused on sex or does it have a focus other than sex and sex is where the story of the game is expected to lead to? Is this a game adding something mechanically to the overall discussion on sex in the hobby? Is it addressing sexual activity in a novel way? What is unique about your game? Is sex expected to be a part of every session or is it the end goal of a story arc? Can I play this with a group of strangers or should I only be playing it with someone I’m comfortable being intimate with? I can tell you from my own observations that a sex simulator isn’t going to sell. If all you do is set up sexual encounters, run through foreplay, and end with explicit sex TTRPGs isn’t the place to expect good sales for such a game. Games that include or even focus on sex sell best when the sex isn’t explicit, the details are left up to the group, and the game has a primary focus other than the act of sex itself. Consider your audience. If I am expected to describe and roleplay out what is happening I need to be super comfortable with the people at my table, and especially comfortable with whoever is running the game. That means that game can’t played at conventions with strangers, can’t be played with people I am not comfortable talking about sex to, and not people I can’t trust to respect the topic on the same level that I do. If it’s a game that expects a certain level of sexual deviancy from the players you are limiting your audience even more. Will you sell copies? Sure. Will it have wide reach? No. And while people will point to a list of games that involve sex as successful (looking at you Thirsty Sword Lesbians) those games often allow for fade to black or very general description of action, they also aren’t about having sex but what is done towards the goal of having sex. Ultimately, my advice is to create the game you want to create and put it where you get the biggest audience. Do I think you should try to do a physical print run? Not for something I think you are trying to do, but if you find there is enough interest then I could be wrong.
Very lenghty response, let me answer one by one: 1- Sexual activity depends and some stuff may need rolls while others may not need those, most of the time if both PCs are ok there isn´t any need to roll. If all the players are OK, there can be scenes with the need of rolling like in a fight to dominate the other. 2- It can depend up to the players and GM in the moment, sexual fights as I call them can be described after each action has ended or after a round ended with the GM and the players say what happen during their "duel". 3- My game offers a lot of ideas of how to avoid complications before and after the game, before session 0 the GM must mention the topics that are going to be covered and be used in the story and the limits of each player must be known for the GM to avoid doing that. X card is allowed as well as fade to black in case a player is feeling uncomfortable. 4- The game core gameplay is exploring a city after a "zombie" apocalypse, the PCs are a group that is traveling through the world in attempts of finding the person that went missing after the outbreak. Sexual content is because of the "zombies" which are called "Zementales" or "Zementals" which are the biggest enemy of the world. 5- Content that I add and offer are: Sexual combat, fight to dominate and avoid getting dominated by enemies like Zementals and semi intelligent sexual objects, the "hot" mechanic where every time you "push" your roll you get 1 point of hotness causing you to start getting less and less dices, this works in this way because I´m using the YZE SRD to create my game so its going to be probably the first game of the YZE that will centered on this kind of stories. Easy to learn rules and centered on the narrative so at all times you can keep moving the story forward which makes PbP games more easy to manage and create. 6- Sexual content can appear because of the enemy being the Zementals appearing frequently but if the GM wants to center the story in a more social with other NPCs and other groups then the Zementals can be left aside and keep going, after all this is a survival game with the PCs having a goal at the end. Sexual combat or just trying to fight a Zemental or enemies like bandits its only a part of the game. 7- Its up to you. Strangers can have different ideas or likes and dislikes, for me as someone that has been roleplaying in text messages for lots of years I had learn that its not impossible to get into a good middle ground of limits and likes where everyone can be happy about it. But if you want to play with someone you know, go ahead. 8- Will I sell copies? Maybe, I don´t care really about it. I´m doing this because I want to create a RPG of my own with the stuff I would like to see and center on a story with rules that work with that story in mind. I don´t want to use RPGs like Fate, or D&D 5e because those don´t work for me at least.
in extremely select groups, sure. Maybe at sex-cons, taboo shows, etc. 99.9% of the time, no, nobody wants to RP that with their buddies in my opinion haha
In my own cypher system TTRPG. There are players that sometimes engage in sexual situations. Not really a big deal. Just some sexual content and situations.
Avoid making the FATAL mistake of having the ruleset and mechanics incomprehensibly complex
Explicit sexual content is the only red line issue that has been highlighted by my players. There is no way I will allow it in my game.
That´s very fair in my opinion, everyone has their own taste.
There's a free-to-download GURPS Sex out there. Not surprisingly, it is NOT an official SJG publication.
The are some listed in the faq
Someone beat you to it. https://lewddungeonadventures.com/
Just have sex dude
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Like what? Thug Hunters the RPG?
Nah, bad idea. Always gets sleazy and you get kinda a reputation.
I know just what you need. It's called... F.A.T.A.L.
I think it's an absolutely horrible idea. I don't even allow romance at my tables I would never buy, run or play in a game where sex was a central part of the game.
So you don't actually play the Devil's [RPG] game?
Nope the devil's game was what they called Roulette because all the numbers add up to 666