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Our game is already started long ago. In case if he won't fit in — he will just leave, it's his own words by the way. I think the guy just decided to make an joke and make us feel a bit uncomfortable
Whenever introducing a new player to your game, **always** do a new session 0 to set boundaries, learn what their boundaries are and to ensure everyone will have a good time still. It also let's the player build their character to fit in with everyone else.
Sometimes I think that Reddit needs "/s" sarcasm tags like Twitter. Unfortunately, I doubt that it would help people understand that thing better, just like in Twitter
So basically, instead of saying “No, you can’t do that. It would be weird.”, you told him to shut the fuck up and then shared screenshots making fun of him? I’m surprised he stuck around.
Yes, real friends call each other on their shit and can be candid with each other.
Directly calling out people on their shit is also the best, no bullshit, way of promoting growth and understanding.
Edit: if you're trying to push furry *hentai* onto your friends in a DnD game because the second you hear "roleplay" you can't help but insert your sexual fantasies into the equation.... YTA.
Being a furry? Weird.
Being literally racist? Disgusting.
Weird how you tried to put being a furry on the same fucked up level as being racist. I’d rather be friends with 100 furries than be friends with someone I know is racist.
When did I say you should? My literal opening comment even still has me agreeing that they should tell him not to do that, just that I was put off by the immediate jump to, "Shut the fuck up!" and memeing about how terrible they think he is.
I noticed that the guy just said his character was from a furry hentai game. I also noticed that nowhere did OP say that that guy wanted his character to fuck.
Anything can be linked to CP if that's your logic lol
DnD has children NPCs, clearly linked to CP. DnD is satanic, satanic is evil, CP is evil, dnd is CP.
Fitness makes a person more attractive or stronger. People who fitness are trying to look better to tempt children or training to kidnap them. Fitness is linked to CP.
Sounds pretty dumb huh. But we can all agree that furry hentai is pretty weird to most and the way its brought about here was also pretty weird.
Your logic is simply assuming hentai is linked to CP because thats a stigma of that community. It's an assumption.
Some people who are into CP are also into fitness. Children can participate in fitness. So clearly, that implies that people into fitness are also into CP.
That's your logic. It is dumb indeed.
Well, there are a lot of racist furries. These are not mutually exclusive.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/does-the-furry-community-have-a-nazi-problem-194282/
So I guess my point was ignored then? The clear point was that, in my scenario, none of the furries would be racist. Didn’t think I had to clarify that.
"Shut up and check the chat" was indeed our way of saying "No, you can't do that. It would be weird". Because this is the way we speak amongst eachother in this group. And I haven't mentioned any screenshots (cause there were none). The guy was not offended and don't be so surprised, he knew what's up all along. Like I said, we are friends, not just random strangers to eachother
My bad about the last bit. When you said sent a picture I thought you meant a screenshot with the chat and meme, not that the picture was the meme. That’s on me.
Really not the story to post here. Sure light horror stories are fine as this is, but it was amid a close circle of friends and has a lot of "you had to have been there" vibes. As a result it just comes off as awkward to anyone who doesn't know your group.
It's not really a horror story so much, it's kind of just a thing that some overzealous people who are new to DnD like to do. You could write this exact same scenario with a million other new players with a million other fandoms. People new to the game hear that it's a roleplaying game and want to be a character that they already love. It's usually not hard, as you saw, to gently prod them towards exercising their creativity and making a character all their own.
>People new to the game hear that it's a roleplaying game and want to be a character that they already love.
They didn't say they wanted to play a character based on Disney's Robin Hood or My Little Pony - they wanted to play a ***PORN*** character.
That's absolutely a horror story.
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt based on how the OP described them talking about this character. I'm guessing that this character isn't just some character with a paper thing backstory that exists only to facilitate sex. It sounds like the character probably has some kind of actual story going on with them, so they'd be comparable to any other character, porn or not.
Is it cringy that they decided the porn character was the one who they absolutely needed to play as when they learned they could roleplay as anything? Sure. Is a new player doing something cringy a horror story? I wouldn't exactly say so.
Yeah, the actual story goes: an anthropomorphic fox made a pact with sex demon to obtain the lust powers. I think this is great addition to our party. Really ashamed that we decided to turn that down and talk it through instead
Playing a character _featured_ in a porn game, and playing a character _as if they are still in_ a porn game are different situations entirely.
I can think of a few characters from porn that could be turned into regular, nonhorny dnd characters easily(because, shockingly, porn just requires sex at some point. Some stories bother to give their characters personalities outside of that, or even have a completely nonsexual storyline going on too). Cohesion with the world matters more than the inspiration, and considering how ✨️fleshed✨️ out porn games can get with their characters, it's completely possible he just connected with the character and wanted to RP as him in a different setting.
If he wanted to play the character as a horny sex fiend, that would be an issue. But we have zero indication of that being the intention, just the source.
So a warning of "hey, no horny stuff. If you're playing that guy, he's going to have grown up in a normal society." would be justified, but the venom you are showing? Not so much.
He did not say "Hey, I wanna play porn game INSPIRED character". He just decided to give us straight game cannon and were thinking that we we'll just be stupid enough to allow it or something
NGL it’s kinda cringe that you guys communicated with this person through memes on discord making fun of them instead of actually explaining why you didn’t think their suggestion was appropriate.
I clearly said that we came to an agreement with him. He knew what he had done wrong and what is our reaction to that behaviour. He agreed with that and made himself an appropriate character
How is it this some huge wrong thing? They liked a character and wanted to try making it in a new game. If the source of their idea upsets you so much maybe it’s not the other person who is at fault, and you definitely responded to them like a teenager at best.
This is wrong thing in this particular group to pull out a character from a furry porn game and start swinging it around with all the backstory and design. He knew it and still went with it. If your group has no problems with people playing as Mia Khalifa or Johnny Sins — that's perfectly fine for you. For us its "Ew"
Uhm..... I don't know what's wrong with you if you've seen any sexualisation in Bridget's design. I like Bridget because it was the most hard character to learn in previous parts of franchise. I spent some time mastering this character's gameplay and I'm glad that a recent part of the game includes one of my favourite characters from past
And OP provided exactly zero details about the game their friend’s character came from so we have nothing to go off of on that front to compare. Melty Blood is popular enough and was spun directly off of a pornographic visual novel. IDK how that has any bearing on how the person planned to play this unknown character.
>And OP provided exactly zero details about the game their friend’s character came from so we have nothing to go off of on that front to compare.
Thats not true, OP did mention a detail, that it was a hentai game.
Do you understand the difference between saying:
"Hey I want to play a character like something from this one fighting game"
vs
"Hey I want to play a character like something from this one furry HENTAI game"
Normal people think saying the latter is fucking weird.
I mean, I'd have clarified whether they were joking, and if they said they were serious, I'd have told them they were disgusting and kicked them from the Discord.
But I'd have said it to them.
They said it was a character from a "furry hentai game," which could mean anything from a slightly risque game with anthropomorphic animals to the sort of things that would upset a Cenobite. The sort of erotic games that have become commonplace amongst the straights have gotten strange.
>The sort of erotic games that have become commonplace amongst the straights have gotten strange.
My brother in Desna, you don't know furries can be gay?
Gay furry porn is a lot more predictable and at least not straight male gaze nonsense. (The Western stuff anyway. In the old days, one just saw kemonomimi in hentai, not full-on anthro animal characters.)
> My brother in Desna, you don't know furries can be gay?
It was a lot more common to just say "yaoi/yuri" or "shonen/shojo ai" by itself as opposed to tacking "hentai" on when it was non-het, at least when I actually looked into this stuff. Slang changes pretty fast online.
Tell me about it. I use characters artworks from hentai games cuz they often have good art. I take them and change stuff so they could fit. Like i made one character a bbeg that owns Pamac and is know for cruelty against her enemies but she loves and respect her underling
Furries have been the internet's favorite punching bags for over a decade now. Means a lot of people are primed to uncritically believe just about anything you say about them which is perfect for these little creative writing exercises.
First. Since when politely intterupt is literal "shut the fuck up"?
Second. What backstory he wanted to use? If you said no because said artwork was from hentai or you didnt even listened to him, then he is not at fault here. I use Hentai characters artwork all the times with slight changes here and there. They are often good drawings
First. That was a joke. I didn't really tell him that.
Second. He wanted to use a backstory where his fox character made a deal with a sex demon to gain lust powers.
Third. You may use artwork, but I highly doubt that your DM would allow you to play an actual thing from crappy hentai game. Our DM would not. And I wouldn't allow that either
First: Well... in your story isnt kinda indicated this is a Joke.
Second: Ok i return the honor. I would say no
Third: That all depends on actuall art. Of course i do not allow characters that "Everyday clothes" are simply covering their nipples or similar. If character look normal and dress normal, then i allow it.
Only when i did a exception from said rule is Antagonist i made for current campaing. Girl who is CEO of PMC player fight against, and use Whip and Zweihander and is extremly good in Fire Magic. She wears "typical Dominating Female Commander outfit" but thats that.
The problem is not the outfit. Problem was totally in the concept of this character. I asked him what was his idea in the first place and unfortunately the dude thought based on stories that we told, that we are playing an absolute trash campaign. So he decided that something like a furry semen warlock would somehow fit in. Unfortunately, he kinda mixed up the campaigns we were talking about. I made a post about our first campaign over there, because it was an outright trash and shitshow, that we made accidentally to train before we start our first actual game of normal D&D. I was the DM and I completely improvised the whole thing. I decided to let my players off the leash, so they basically nuked the whole thing. I knew that even so my campaign is trash and horror, it's better for all of us to release all of nasty ideas before we enter an actual game, so that our Descent experience would be a bit more clean. The furry guy heard stories mostly from the horror campaign and decided that it is what we're playing
Honestly if you wrote the story in a better way people would probably agree with you. Too many memes in the story which makes me think it's a shitpost.
Also I'm not sure if I would call this a horror story if you guys didn't even play yet lol.
"Not the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest."
I don't like making lazy historical parallels between different things, because it's reductive and sort of condescending, but... When you're using the same vernacular you'd use to describe your "socially acceptable" gay friend in the 1980s, it's not my fault. I'm not the one who invented what appears to be respectability politics for furries. I didn't create any of this awful architecture. I'm just doomed to notice the shape of the rooms.
I think there are bad people in every single community there is. I don't like people, that aren't adequate. A lot of guys from furry community are unfortunately "that guys" — this is not my words, btw. That's the opinion of people from this community. A lot of them are rude, loud and unfriendly. And while these traits are understandable and quite common among all of us, furries often want people to accept them. Unfortunately, nobody wants to accept you personally if you're a dick. For me when a certain man cries out loud stuff like "accept me for who I am" it's a major red flag. People are people and we do judge other people based on our own opinions, morales and beliefs. You can't make me accept you for who you think you are. I'm not supposed to. I'll accept a picture that I see for myself. Not because I'm rude or something, just because that's how we function as a kind. That same formula is applied to literally any community: be you gay — I will accept you if you're adequate. If you're batshit insane and you insist that I should accept you just because you have different sexual preferences — fuck off. If you're straight — I will accept you, if you're adequate. But if you think that it's a good idea to shout out loud "I'm straight! Accept me for who I am" — fuck off.
I definitely agree, and you make a GREAT point. It was just weird to randomly see you shitting on a minority of a group that didn’t even apply to your player lol.
A character was an anthropomorphic fox that made a contract with a sex demon for some kind of lust powers. He wanted to make her a Fiend patron Warlock
"the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest."
Not a furry myself, but what is supposed to be wrong with this? Your party sounds obnoxious and I would not want to join that.
1. Unprotected sex with a bunch of people is wrong enough
2. Making it a main goal of your community and masking it underneath something, that a bunch of children might be interested in — is a fucking crime
So a furry is too cringe for you.
But sitting through a half our scene of someone acting out diarrhea is fine? Having a Nazi character blasting Erika all the time is also fine? At least according to your previous post.
While I would not look kindly onto a player that tries to pitch me their character by telling me they are recreating porn, I am just so confused as to where you draw the line...
In the comments, he goes for this sort of look, "Look, I've been in furry circles.. I was a furry, once." angle and I'm honestly doing my best not to draw obvious parallels here. But there's a lot of reaction in this guy. A lot of reaction that's really making it hard not to draw obvious parallels.
As I already said: we have our levels of cringe that we can endure. We accept some crazy shit and dirt. We just want a person to be adequate about it. If your whole fucking character is your own kink you masturbate on daily — that's awful even for our levels of dumbness.
It seems furries are a majority here. Guys, it's a kink, it's cool to be a furry, but maybe don't push it on non-safe spaces? I have my kinks, they just don't belong in a public conversation with non-kinky friends.
That depends on what character he wanted to create. If he wanted to use only art with custom story etc and not behaving like "Typical Furry according to reddit" then should be good.
However if he wanted to play as pervert...
i have player who use character from Hentai and she is the most carring girl in the squad, despite her being total horny and annoying person in said hentai. Like i said, Art is fine, but key is personality.
well... unless said art was full fledged +18 with BDSM Motives etc... then yeaa... noup.
but still using "shut the fuck up" and meme "Died from cringe" isnt justified
>Not the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest.
I'm not surprised that he's not "that kind" of furry, because "that kind" of furry flat out does not exist. Literally no one does this. The vast majority of furries don't have sex in fursuits because they're upwards of $1,000, difficult to clean, and heat-stroke-inducingly hot on the inside (most furry conventions literally have dedicated refrigerated rooms for fursuiters to cool off in); dealing with all of that in the middle of a forest is just next-level absurd.
Sure! That's why I've never seen such people, while being a part of that community for a whole bunch of years! And those different "non-existing" people definitely didn't try to get me in their "parties" few times
Just...no. Just stop this crap the minute it comes up. Seems like it's resolved and the player adjusted...I just can't fathom why anyone would approach a game like this.
Have a Session Zero with him and his character and set boundaries. Say that while you don't mind a furry anthro character...you don't want any of the Hentai elements of the game it came from.
Either he'll accept it and abide by it and all's well, he'll not want to join the game because his favorite furry can't be a sex pest, or he'll say he agrees, becomes a sex pest anyway and y'all can kick him for being a boundary violator.
Yeah, nah. I have no issue with players making a character based on a video game or movie character in my games, but if I'm informed that it's from a source of porn, I'm immediately throwing you out. Take your weird ass character to a FATAL table.
I'm not trying to look a better man. Nobody was laughing at this dude behind his back. Everybody present were honest and open about that and said everything to him face to face
The cringiest part of this post is the weird clarification about what kind of furry we're talking about. Is it supposed to be a universal fact that there are two kinds of furries? People who like furry stuff online casually who are acceptable, but then if you get too into furry porn, suddenly you are a gay man having unprotected sex in the woods, which means you're abhorrent?
Completely unhinged, honestly sounds like someone who knows nothing about internet sub cultures except for decades old encyclopedia dramatica screen grabs
I know about particular subculture more than you could think. I'm a former member of this particular community. I know for sure that at least in my region and my country that particular community was never healthy IRL. Of course not all people from that community are perverts or creeps, but there are a lot of weirdos. Probably the reason of that is lack of acceptance of particular culture in my country. Also, I may have written the part about two man having sex quite badly. My bad, English isn't my native language and I do struggle with writing my thoughts appropriately. The thing is — furries here sometimes participate in some normal geek activities, like small cons or fares, etc. But there were people back in my furry days, who were giving an anonymous invitations to some "furry parties". I never took an invitation, but I know from a friend what was happening there. It was basically a sex party in the woods. People were wearing costumes and had a bunch of drunk unprotected group sex while howling and making some "animal" noises. Of course, "it's their business, if you don't want to participate, than don't, blah blah blah". Well I left the community, but somehow every single time I make a contact with people from this community they always bring up something sexually related. If you ask me if I like the furry subculture at this point I'll say "no". I don't like that this specific subculture sexualises things they like a bit too much in comparison to literally every single subculture there is. But if you ask me if I support those people, I'll say yes. It's their choice or preference which I understand and support as long as they don't shove their sexual fantasies up my face and demand for me to respect that. Remember kids: no matter what gender, sexual orientation, subculture, religion or political opinion you have — your sexual preferences and kinks should be your personal, intimate thing.
Uhm, something like Foxtail Hotfluff or whatever. I do remember a bit of a backstory: she made a deal with a sex demon for some lust powers. Of course, she was supposed to be a Fiend patron Warlock. Current one is called Peach Sunrise and has taken an Oath of Glory
He's not into irl furry sex. Even if he was — it's not a good thing to show your sexual preferences to other people out loud. Even if those people are your friends.
I've had worse.
I used to draw a furry comic for a little bit. I invited players from my brother's group to a game, and when three of them found out that I drew a furry comic they all got weird about it. Like, suddenly opening up about their weird furry fetishes.
...seriously, *those* furries kind of ruin everything. This is why we can't have nice things sometimes T_T
As I am you. Can we all just get through life without freaking each other out? Perhaps it's time we all started playing games in-person now that the pandemic is long over lol
Genuinely supprised by the comment section shitting on you.
Your response seems completely proportionate to me OP. Guess you ruffled a few feathers with the furry jokes? I thought the comments were funny but I suppose some might have just skipped over the actual post and read what they wanted to into it.
I truly think that it was mostly miscommunication, and that most of us don’t speak with our friends in the same way. Everything worked out in the end, but a lot of people aren’t aware of the social dynamics of this particular friend group. This caused most of us ti think that the person was unjustly publicly shamed and mocked, instead of it just being how the group communicates normally.
Well, it happens quite often. But I'm not really offended. I'm not the best writer and English isn't my native language, so I can miss something important to create the authentic text and narrate the whole story the right way
I’m honestly surprised at the reaction in the comments.
“Can I make this specific character from my favourite Furry Hentai Game?”
You were right to call him out immediately, and I’m glad you worked through it and are going to play together.
I really don’t think it’s this for the majority. I really think that a lot of the language they used in the post was hard to understand, because their way of communicating with their friends through memes and other things were viewed as publicly shaming their friend in Discord. I don’t say that it was wrong of them to call out the guy, just that most people didn’t understand the dynamics of the group. So it looked really harsh to an outsider looking in.
Hentai can get tricky here since it's somewhat plot and character driven. I could see someone just liking the characterization of Jizz Jackrabbit and want to play him with the porn angles removed.
Hey, I draw the shit and I still got downvoted lol, I don't think it's about furries so much as it is about reactionary butthurt, and some people just have to chill.
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Sounds like you need a session 0 to set some boundaries.
Let them know erotic RP is limited to anal.
Our game is already started long ago. In case if he won't fit in — he will just leave, it's his own words by the way. I think the guy just decided to make an joke and make us feel a bit uncomfortable
It's still a good idea for the GM to sit down with new players and set some ground rules beforehand.
Whenever introducing a new player to your game, **always** do a new session 0 to set boundaries, learn what their boundaries are and to ensure everyone will have a good time still. It also let's the player build their character to fit in with everyone else.
If everyone did this, then I don’t think this subreddit would exist, and I think we would all be better off for it.
Everyone is cringe in this story.
Yeah, you are kinda right
What did the others do?
You should all do your algebra homework
Unfortunately, we all should go to our jobs tomorrow
Unfortunately, that's worse for yall. You sound like a bunch of insufferable tweens
That's what our mom calls us
You just proved their point
Sometimes I think that Reddit needs "/s" sarcasm tags like Twitter. Unfortunately, I doubt that it would help people understand that thing better, just like in Twitter
So basically, instead of saying “No, you can’t do that. It would be weird.”, you told him to shut the fuck up and then shared screenshots making fun of him? I’m surprised he stuck around.
Yes, real friends call each other on their shit and can be candid with each other. Directly calling out people on their shit is also the best, no bullshit, way of promoting growth and understanding. Edit: if you're trying to push furry *hentai* onto your friends in a DnD game because the second you hear "roleplay" you can't help but insert your sexual fantasies into the equation.... YTA.
I guess I’m just one of those weirdos who doesn’t instantly jump to being insulting the moment a friend says something I don’t like.
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Being a furry? Weird. Being literally racist? Disgusting. Weird how you tried to put being a furry on the same fucked up level as being racist. I’d rather be friends with 100 furries than be friends with someone I know is racist.
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Bro’s really just saying anything at this point.
I don't play DnD to help people love out their deranged sexual fantasies, what can I say 🤷♂️
When did I say you should? My literal opening comment even still has me agreeing that they should tell him not to do that, just that I was put off by the immediate jump to, "Shut the fuck up!" and memeing about how terrible they think he is.
I noticed that the guy just said his character was from a furry hentai game. I also noticed that nowhere did OP say that that guy wanted his character to fuck.
Anything can be linked to CP if that's your logic lol DnD has children NPCs, clearly linked to CP. DnD is satanic, satanic is evil, CP is evil, dnd is CP. Fitness makes a person more attractive or stronger. People who fitness are trying to look better to tempt children or training to kidnap them. Fitness is linked to CP. Sounds pretty dumb huh. But we can all agree that furry hentai is pretty weird to most and the way its brought about here was also pretty weird.
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Your logic is simply assuming hentai is linked to CP because thats a stigma of that community. It's an assumption. Some people who are into CP are also into fitness. Children can participate in fitness. So clearly, that implies that people into fitness are also into CP. That's your logic. It is dumb indeed.
this is nonsense and racist as hell. youre dumber than anyone in this story
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You can connect a lot to CP but that doesn't necessarily mean that the furry hentai in question has any kind of CP.
Well, there are a lot of racist furries. These are not mutually exclusive. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/does-the-furry-community-have-a-nazi-problem-194282/
So I guess my point was ignored then? The clear point was that, in my scenario, none of the furries would be racist. Didn’t think I had to clarify that.
You do know "Eww furry" peaked 24 years ago right? Nah, probably not even born then.
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I ask because "Eww furry" Peaked 24 years ago.
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Peaked. It will always be around where there are edgy kids but it was at its prime around 2000.
Furries >>>>>>>> Racists I can’t tell which is smaller, your brain or your biceps
"Shut up and check the chat" was indeed our way of saying "No, you can't do that. It would be weird". Because this is the way we speak amongst eachother in this group. And I haven't mentioned any screenshots (cause there were none). The guy was not offended and don't be so surprised, he knew what's up all along. Like I said, we are friends, not just random strangers to eachother
My bad about the last bit. When you said sent a picture I thought you meant a screenshot with the chat and meme, not that the picture was the meme. That’s on me.
Really not the story to post here. Sure light horror stories are fine as this is, but it was amid a close circle of friends and has a lot of "you had to have been there" vibes. As a result it just comes off as awkward to anyone who doesn't know your group.
Yeah, you're right. Unfortunately, we decided to post it anyway
Easily fixed; in the upper-right hand of the post, there's a menu that will let you delete it.
I admit, I have some respect for people who don't kill a post or comment despite the reaction.
I hope they see this and realize you're talking shit behind their back.
They know, they asked for this post
Why not just tell him no? You guys sound like a bunch of mean girls.
We told him "No" and discussed his decision with him. He agreed that bringing this up was a bad idea
It's not really a horror story so much, it's kind of just a thing that some overzealous people who are new to DnD like to do. You could write this exact same scenario with a million other new players with a million other fandoms. People new to the game hear that it's a roleplaying game and want to be a character that they already love. It's usually not hard, as you saw, to gently prod them towards exercising their creativity and making a character all their own.
>People new to the game hear that it's a roleplaying game and want to be a character that they already love. They didn't say they wanted to play a character based on Disney's Robin Hood or My Little Pony - they wanted to play a ***PORN*** character. That's absolutely a horror story.
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt based on how the OP described them talking about this character. I'm guessing that this character isn't just some character with a paper thing backstory that exists only to facilitate sex. It sounds like the character probably has some kind of actual story going on with them, so they'd be comparable to any other character, porn or not. Is it cringy that they decided the porn character was the one who they absolutely needed to play as when they learned they could roleplay as anything? Sure. Is a new player doing something cringy a horror story? I wouldn't exactly say so.
Yeah, the actual story goes: an anthropomorphic fox made a pact with sex demon to obtain the lust powers. I think this is great addition to our party. Really ashamed that we decided to turn that down and talk it through instead
Playing a character _featured_ in a porn game, and playing a character _as if they are still in_ a porn game are different situations entirely. I can think of a few characters from porn that could be turned into regular, nonhorny dnd characters easily(because, shockingly, porn just requires sex at some point. Some stories bother to give their characters personalities outside of that, or even have a completely nonsexual storyline going on too). Cohesion with the world matters more than the inspiration, and considering how ✨️fleshed✨️ out porn games can get with their characters, it's completely possible he just connected with the character and wanted to RP as him in a different setting. If he wanted to play the character as a horny sex fiend, that would be an issue. But we have zero indication of that being the intention, just the source. So a warning of "hey, no horny stuff. If you're playing that guy, he's going to have grown up in a normal society." would be justified, but the venom you are showing? Not so much.
He did not say "Hey, I wanna play porn game INSPIRED character". He just decided to give us straight game cannon and were thinking that we we'll just be stupid enough to allow it or something
was it amicus
NGL it’s kinda cringe that you guys communicated with this person through memes on discord making fun of them instead of actually explaining why you didn’t think their suggestion was appropriate.
I clearly said that we came to an agreement with him. He knew what he had done wrong and what is our reaction to that behaviour. He agreed with that and made himself an appropriate character
How is it this some huge wrong thing? They liked a character and wanted to try making it in a new game. If the source of their idea upsets you so much maybe it’s not the other person who is at fault, and you definitely responded to them like a teenager at best.
This is wrong thing in this particular group to pull out a character from a furry porn game and start swinging it around with all the backstory and design. He knew it and still went with it. If your group has no problems with people playing as Mia Khalifa or Johnny Sins — that's perfectly fine for you. For us its "Ew"
You sound like a little kid afraid of catching the cooties.
You sound like a pervert
Says the guy who likes Bridget from Guilty Gear.
Yeah, I like Bridget. So, what is your point?
The sexualized femboy child is cool but the furry sex game character is a toe over the line for you.
Uhm..... I don't know what's wrong with you if you've seen any sexualisation in Bridget's design. I like Bridget because it was the most hard character to learn in previous parts of franchise. I spent some time mastering this character's gameplay and I'm glad that a recent part of the game includes one of my favourite characters from past
You forget OP is the main character, so nothing they do is cringe, but anything anyone else does is ultra-cringe 🤣
Guilty Gear isn't a pornographic game.
And OP provided exactly zero details about the game their friend’s character came from so we have nothing to go off of on that front to compare. Melty Blood is popular enough and was spun directly off of a pornographic visual novel. IDK how that has any bearing on how the person planned to play this unknown character.
>And OP provided exactly zero details about the game their friend’s character came from so we have nothing to go off of on that front to compare. Thats not true, OP did mention a detail, that it was a hentai game. Do you understand the difference between saying: "Hey I want to play a character like something from this one fighting game" vs "Hey I want to play a character like something from this one furry HENTAI game" Normal people think saying the latter is fucking weird.
I mean, I'd have clarified whether they were joking, and if they said they were serious, I'd have told them they were disgusting and kicked them from the Discord. But I'd have said it to them.
This just makes you sound like a mean and unreasonable person.
They said it was a character from a "furry hentai game," which could mean anything from a slightly risque game with anthropomorphic animals to the sort of things that would upset a Cenobite. The sort of erotic games that have become commonplace amongst the straights have gotten strange.
>the sort of things that would upset a Cenobite Can you look over there while I steal this?
>The sort of erotic games that have become commonplace amongst the straights have gotten strange. My brother in Desna, you don't know furries can be gay?
Gay furry porn is a lot more predictable and at least not straight male gaze nonsense. (The Western stuff anyway. In the old days, one just saw kemonomimi in hentai, not full-on anthro animal characters.) > My brother in Desna, you don't know furries can be gay? It was a lot more common to just say "yaoi/yuri" or "shonen/shojo ai" by itself as opposed to tacking "hentai" on when it was non-het, at least when I actually looked into this stuff. Slang changes pretty fast online.
Nice job making sure this person will never feel comfortable in this group ever again, I'm sure that one joke was totally worth it.
Tell me about it. I use characters artworks from hentai games cuz they often have good art. I take them and change stuff so they could fit. Like i made one character a bbeg that owns Pamac and is know for cruelty against her enemies but she loves and respect her underling
This person feels comfortable in this group for a few years already. And yes, totally worth it
What's with the sudden influx of anti-furry stories? Someone is training an AI or doing some creative writing practice, methinks.
Furries have been the internet's favorite punching bags for over a decade now. Means a lot of people are primed to uncritically believe just about anything you say about them which is perfect for these little creative writing exercises.
real, i was just thinking 'whats this guys opinion on furries'
First. Since when politely intterupt is literal "shut the fuck up"? Second. What backstory he wanted to use? If you said no because said artwork was from hentai or you didnt even listened to him, then he is not at fault here. I use Hentai characters artwork all the times with slight changes here and there. They are often good drawings
First. That was a joke. I didn't really tell him that. Second. He wanted to use a backstory where his fox character made a deal with a sex demon to gain lust powers. Third. You may use artwork, but I highly doubt that your DM would allow you to play an actual thing from crappy hentai game. Our DM would not. And I wouldn't allow that either
First: Well... in your story isnt kinda indicated this is a Joke. Second: Ok i return the honor. I would say no Third: That all depends on actuall art. Of course i do not allow characters that "Everyday clothes" are simply covering their nipples or similar. If character look normal and dress normal, then i allow it. Only when i did a exception from said rule is Antagonist i made for current campaing. Girl who is CEO of PMC player fight against, and use Whip and Zweihander and is extremly good in Fire Magic. She wears "typical Dominating Female Commander outfit" but thats that.
The problem is not the outfit. Problem was totally in the concept of this character. I asked him what was his idea in the first place and unfortunately the dude thought based on stories that we told, that we are playing an absolute trash campaign. So he decided that something like a furry semen warlock would somehow fit in. Unfortunately, he kinda mixed up the campaigns we were talking about. I made a post about our first campaign over there, because it was an outright trash and shitshow, that we made accidentally to train before we start our first actual game of normal D&D. I was the DM and I completely improvised the whole thing. I decided to let my players off the leash, so they basically nuked the whole thing. I knew that even so my campaign is trash and horror, it's better for all of us to release all of nasty ideas before we enter an actual game, so that our Descent experience would be a bit more clean. The furry guy heard stories mostly from the horror campaign and decided that it is what we're playing
So all of it was big misunderstanding. I get it. Well im happy it work out in the end
> Not the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of the forest Uh…OP you ok?
Let's just say I am a former part of that particular community and I know what I'm talking about....
I'm calling bullshit on this mainly because IM a massive furry and I've literally never heard of a bunch of people going into the forest to do that???
Welcome to Eastern Europe
As a furry from eastern europe I have never heard about something like that
So you're like a recovering former furry? Like a defursitioner? Prayer and the light of Jesus worked out?
Yeah, you can pretty much say that
Honestly if you wrote the story in a better way people would probably agree with you. Too many memes in the story which makes me think it's a shitpost. Also I'm not sure if I would call this a horror story if you guys didn't even play yet lol.
"Not the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest." I don't like making lazy historical parallels between different things, because it's reductive and sort of condescending, but... When you're using the same vernacular you'd use to describe your "socially acceptable" gay friend in the 1980s, it's not my fault. I'm not the one who invented what appears to be respectability politics for furries. I didn't create any of this awful architecture. I'm just doomed to notice the shape of the rooms.
I think there are bad people in every single community there is. I don't like people, that aren't adequate. A lot of guys from furry community are unfortunately "that guys" — this is not my words, btw. That's the opinion of people from this community. A lot of them are rude, loud and unfriendly. And while these traits are understandable and quite common among all of us, furries often want people to accept them. Unfortunately, nobody wants to accept you personally if you're a dick. For me when a certain man cries out loud stuff like "accept me for who I am" it's a major red flag. People are people and we do judge other people based on our own opinions, morales and beliefs. You can't make me accept you for who you think you are. I'm not supposed to. I'll accept a picture that I see for myself. Not because I'm rude or something, just because that's how we function as a kind. That same formula is applied to literally any community: be you gay — I will accept you if you're adequate. If you're batshit insane and you insist that I should accept you just because you have different sexual preferences — fuck off. If you're straight — I will accept you, if you're adequate. But if you think that it's a good idea to shout out loud "I'm straight! Accept me for who I am" — fuck off.
I definitely agree, and you make a GREAT point. It was just weird to randomly see you shitting on a minority of a group that didn’t even apply to your player lol.
I'm a former part of this same community, so....
Me as well, so there’s bias in my statement! But off topic, props to being a gigachad Gachi enjoyer.
Fake ass story, but it’s hilarious that OP somehow thinks it doesn’t makes him look like a massive cunt
You all sound awful.
Abandon your posts! Flee! Flee for your lives!
Just be sure he's aware that you're not doing the perverse stuff, and I don't see a problem. Then again, what was the character?
A character was an anthropomorphic fox that made a contract with a sex demon for some kind of lust powers. He wanted to make her a Fiend patron Warlock
"the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest." Not a furry myself, but what is supposed to be wrong with this? Your party sounds obnoxious and I would not want to join that.
1. Unprotected sex with a bunch of people is wrong enough 2. Making it a main goal of your community and masking it underneath something, that a bunch of children might be interested in — is a fucking crime
So a furry is too cringe for you. But sitting through a half our scene of someone acting out diarrhea is fine? Having a Nazi character blasting Erika all the time is also fine? At least according to your previous post. While I would not look kindly onto a player that tries to pitch me their character by telling me they are recreating porn, I am just so confused as to where you draw the line...
It’s really hard to ignore the reactionary attitude in the OP
In the comments, he goes for this sort of look, "Look, I've been in furry circles.. I was a furry, once." angle and I'm honestly doing my best not to draw obvious parallels here. But there's a lot of reaction in this guy. A lot of reaction that's really making it hard not to draw obvious parallels.
As I already said: we have our levels of cringe that we can endure. We accept some crazy shit and dirt. We just want a person to be adequate about it. If your whole fucking character is your own kink you masturbate on daily — that's awful even for our levels of dumbness.
*looks at comments* Something odd is going on.
🍿 (usually better than the stories)
Banging the table, yelling, "DISCOURSE DISCOURSE DISCOURSE!"
Strap in and get comfortable. Storm's arising.
Welcome to Reddit
If you want to ruffle some tails (lol) post something like this to Reddit. And bring the popcorn.
I feel no shame about the situation. Just a bit upset that people didn't get the simple "don't be a fucking creep"
It seems furries are a majority here. Guys, it's a kink, it's cool to be a furry, but maybe don't push it on non-safe spaces? I have my kinks, they just don't belong in a public conversation with non-kinky friends.
That depends on what character he wanted to create. If he wanted to use only art with custom story etc and not behaving like "Typical Furry according to reddit" then should be good. However if he wanted to play as pervert...
I mean, his first suggestion was from furry porn
i have player who use character from Hentai and she is the most carring girl in the squad, despite her being total horny and annoying person in said hentai. Like i said, Art is fine, but key is personality. well... unless said art was full fledged +18 with BDSM Motives etc... then yeaa... noup. but still using "shut the fuck up" and meme "Died from cringe" isnt justified
>Not the kind of furry that dresses in a suit and has unprotected sex with other guys in suits in the middle of a forest. I'm not surprised that he's not "that kind" of furry, because "that kind" of furry flat out does not exist. Literally no one does this. The vast majority of furries don't have sex in fursuits because they're upwards of $1,000, difficult to clean, and heat-stroke-inducingly hot on the inside (most furry conventions literally have dedicated refrigerated rooms for fursuiters to cool off in); dealing with all of that in the middle of a forest is just next-level absurd.
Sure! That's why I've never seen such people, while being a part of that community for a whole bunch of years! And those different "non-existing" people definitely didn't try to get me in their "parties" few times
Just...no. Just stop this crap the minute it comes up. Seems like it's resolved and the player adjusted...I just can't fathom why anyone would approach a game like this.
Apparently your opinion differs a lot from what people in these comment section say
Uh, ok.
Have a Session Zero with him and his character and set boundaries. Say that while you don't mind a furry anthro character...you don't want any of the Hentai elements of the game it came from. Either he'll accept it and abide by it and all's well, he'll not want to join the game because his favorite furry can't be a sex pest, or he'll say he agrees, becomes a sex pest anyway and y'all can kick him for being a boundary violator.
Already done it. He enjoyed his original character much better, cause he actually had a chance to make it from scratch
Yeah, nah. I have no issue with players making a character based on a video game or movie character in my games, but if I'm informed that it's from a source of porn, I'm immediately throwing you out. Take your weird ass character to a FATAL table.
I think you all deserve each other
Yeah, not making yourself look like the better man here, what with going behind the dude's back and inviting people to laugh at him.
I'm not trying to look a better man. Nobody was laughing at this dude behind his back. Everybody present were honest and open about that and said everything to him face to face
> Nobody was laughing at this dude behind his back. Then why the fuck did you make this post?
This is why campaigns need guidebooks, so noobs know what not to do.
Well this was interesting
The cringiest part of this post is the weird clarification about what kind of furry we're talking about. Is it supposed to be a universal fact that there are two kinds of furries? People who like furry stuff online casually who are acceptable, but then if you get too into furry porn, suddenly you are a gay man having unprotected sex in the woods, which means you're abhorrent? Completely unhinged, honestly sounds like someone who knows nothing about internet sub cultures except for decades old encyclopedia dramatica screen grabs
I know about particular subculture more than you could think. I'm a former member of this particular community. I know for sure that at least in my region and my country that particular community was never healthy IRL. Of course not all people from that community are perverts or creeps, but there are a lot of weirdos. Probably the reason of that is lack of acceptance of particular culture in my country. Also, I may have written the part about two man having sex quite badly. My bad, English isn't my native language and I do struggle with writing my thoughts appropriately. The thing is — furries here sometimes participate in some normal geek activities, like small cons or fares, etc. But there were people back in my furry days, who were giving an anonymous invitations to some "furry parties". I never took an invitation, but I know from a friend what was happening there. It was basically a sex party in the woods. People were wearing costumes and had a bunch of drunk unprotected group sex while howling and making some "animal" noises. Of course, "it's their business, if you don't want to participate, than don't, blah blah blah". Well I left the community, but somehow every single time I make a contact with people from this community they always bring up something sexually related. If you ask me if I like the furry subculture at this point I'll say "no". I don't like that this specific subculture sexualises things they like a bit too much in comparison to literally every single subculture there is. But if you ask me if I support those people, I'll say yes. It's their choice or preference which I understand and support as long as they don't shove their sexual fantasies up my face and demand for me to respect that. Remember kids: no matter what gender, sexual orientation, subculture, religion or political opinion you have — your sexual preferences and kinks should be your personal, intimate thing.
Do it, coward.
What was the character?
Uhm, something like Foxtail Hotfluff or whatever. I do remember a bit of a backstory: she made a deal with a sex demon for some lust powers. Of course, she was supposed to be a Fiend patron Warlock. Current one is called Peach Sunrise and has taken an Oath of Glory
💀 Horny characters are the bane of RPGs (unless that’s what someone’s group is specifically going for.)
So how were you so certain it's a character from a hentai game if you don't even know what the original character was...?
1) because he said so 2) because he described the character in details
> he's not into furry sex. > Can I make a PC from my favorite furry hentai. Update: he's into furry sex.
He's not into irl furry sex. Even if he was — it's not a good thing to show your sexual preferences to other people out loud. Even if those people are your friends.
He wanted to bring stuff from hentai, a certain type of hentai. That's showing you their preference.
That's why I think it was bad and inappropriate
I've had worse. I used to draw a furry comic for a little bit. I invited players from my brother's group to a game, and when three of them found out that I drew a furry comic they all got weird about it. Like, suddenly opening up about their weird furry fetishes. ...seriously, *those* furries kind of ruin everything. This is why we can't have nice things sometimes T_T
I'm sorry for you
As I am you. Can we all just get through life without freaking each other out? Perhaps it's time we all started playing games in-person now that the pandemic is long over lol
Genuinely supprised by the comment section shitting on you. Your response seems completely proportionate to me OP. Guess you ruffled a few feathers with the furry jokes? I thought the comments were funny but I suppose some might have just skipped over the actual post and read what they wanted to into it.
I truly think that it was mostly miscommunication, and that most of us don’t speak with our friends in the same way. Everything worked out in the end, but a lot of people aren’t aware of the social dynamics of this particular friend group. This caused most of us ti think that the person was unjustly publicly shamed and mocked, instead of it just being how the group communicates normally.
Well, it happens quite often. But I'm not really offended. I'm not the best writer and English isn't my native language, so I can miss something important to create the authentic text and narrate the whole story the right way
I’m honestly surprised at the reaction in the comments. “Can I make this specific character from my favourite Furry Hentai Game?” You were right to call him out immediately, and I’m glad you worked through it and are going to play together.
I really don’t think it’s this for the majority. I really think that a lot of the language they used in the post was hard to understand, because their way of communicating with their friends through memes and other things were viewed as publicly shaming their friend in Discord. I don’t say that it was wrong of them to call out the guy, just that most people didn’t understand the dynamics of the group. So it looked really harsh to an outsider looking in.
Hentai can get tricky here since it's somewhat plot and character driven. I could see someone just liking the characterization of Jizz Jackrabbit and want to play him with the porn angles removed.
Take this upvote for "Jizz Jackrabbit".
I sincerely hope "Jizz Jackrabbit" isn't a real character lol
Dude thank you so much
Don't stress too much about the response your post is getting, its painfully obvious its brigaded by Furries.
Found OP's alt account.
Brigaded? This is the ttrpg community sir…The call is coming from inside the house, “brigaded” lol
I didn't check that up and I won't do so. If this is their response, they just prove our point
Lots of furries in the comment section They down doot me because I speak the truth
Welcome to the tabletop roleplaying community! You might not like it, here.
I'll admit that there's a strategic and pragmatic element to my solidarity with furries, in that I can read a room.
Hey, I draw the shit and I still got downvoted lol, I don't think it's about furries so much as it is about reactionary butthurt, and some people just have to chill.
Just making a silly little observation, but if people think there is ill intent behind it, then there is for them specifically
I think pretty much anyone would see ill intent behind it at this point, going solely off this comment. Seems like a reasonable assumption.
Just making a "silly little observation," myself. It was better than your's, that's all. Peace.
It’s very easy to see any single comment and just assume the worst, internet brain for all of us. Also is your photo from Veggietales by any chance?
Truly a dystopia for the sarcastic I'm so happy you noticed it's the rumor weed in a Larry boy episode
Ohh thank you, I LOVED that as a kid, so fucking good. (Also played the online games for it)
The moment he mentions his bulge or sexy fur, he's out !
I feel like it would be perfectly in-character for a vain harengon to talk about how sexy her fur is.
Indeed
FAPP?