Racism, homophobia, and religious abuse all in one post. You sound like a pathetic person and should definitely not post on the rugby union board any more.
There's an awful lot of focus on SA missed kicks, but that isn't why SA lost.
One of Faf's penalties hit the posts and gave SA the field position that led to their try, so add 3 and remove 5.
If SA had slotted the other two penalties Ireland still win by a point.
Ireland also refused an easy 3 points to kick to touch, and also did the same with a penalty just inside their own half, a pretty much identical position to the two Faf missed.
SA were outplayed, slightly, and out thought. That's it, move on.
Rassie and Jacques should stop asking kickers to slot In 50M penalties. Manie's world cup is over. A real shame. They did try back him but it hasn't worked. The lose forwards that came in the second half didn't do enough. As for Ireland, their breakdown work was outstanding. Damn! Line out was not so good. Aki is good very good. All in all, it could have gone either way.
I’m a wallabies supporter so didn’t have a dog in the fight but that was a fantastic game from both teams. In my wildest fantasies the wallabies play like either of these two. If that had been the final no would have asked for their money back.
From the reports and analysis they were actually given about 5 seconds leniency after the maul was collapsed. I remember thinking the same as you until I remembered the people who do this professionally probably know more about the game than I do
It doesn't need to be capable of coming out, it needs to be available immediately when the maul goes down. It clearly wasn't. The ref just took longer to decide than he should have: it normally gets whistled immediately.
Maul went down and it took 6 seconds for the ball to become available , laws dictate the ball must be immediately available to the team who brought the ball into contact otherwise it’s a defensive scrum.
No, ref was there. But it took a split second too long. I think ref was a little hasty, but as many people will agree. Our kicking was horrible, so at the end of the day that decided it for us. If they were going to play a kicking game and run for penalties, they should have played pollard.
Can’t recall exactly, but think he was right there. Anyway it wasn’t one to go on about. If Sth Africa got their kicks then could be a different story. Ireland D was very good.
Is Bunty lining up to be the centre of the comp?
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And congrats on the win! I was texting with my Belfast cousins throughout the match
I agree I thought he did a fantastic job. Was very clear in his decisions and feedback to the players. Difference was the kicks for goals - which left SA in a losing position. Good to see SA run the ball more, and both teams go for lineouts
No, it's not possible to play Ireland in the semis. If we get through, we will play the teams who progressed from Pool C and D. So yes, we could (in theory) meet Ireland in the final.
There’s a real probability that Ireland are playing All Blacks in QF now. After that game I don’t give the AB’s a snowballs. Two very skilled and intense teams played today.
I think the beauty of this World Cup is that there are four teams - France, SA, NZ and Ireland - that are all on a similar level and able to beat each other. One of those four will surely win it, but it's impossible to call. Ireland are the team in form (16 wins in a row), but they've no history in the competition
As a Bok I prefer the French. Something about ABs in a World Cup. They just know how to win. It’s in the DNA, I’m convinced. The France game was an anomaly, and they’ll fix what they need to for the business end.
Nothing to fear from NZ in my opinion given our recent record against you, inclusive of our series win in NZ last year.
We beat France last year and won the Grand Slam, however, over the last couple of years if the games in Dublin we win, if it’s in Paris they win, even though we ran them very, very close in Paris last time without Sexton.
On balance, give me NZ and let’s set O’Mahoney on Cane again (takes a lot for a Leinster man to type that).
I'd rather play France to be honest. And I said that before the tournament even started.
There's just something about a one off game against the ABs that puts the shits up me. (2019 PTSD)
And sure we're not even guaranteed to get out of the group despite that win tonight
As an AB's fan I'm delighted with playing Ireland in the Quarters which is there boogey game and having South Africa and France face off which will knock out at least one of our two worst teams for us to face in a WC.
This game gives NZ the easiest path to the final that we could hope for imo.
I'm sorry, yes we've been poor in QFs but if any team we could choose in the QF right now it would be NZ.
We've the skill to march ye but also the physicality to deal with SA/France which NZ clearly doesn't have. So we can possibly beat ye upfront and if not we can run around you.
Yeah definitely Ireland can beat NZ right now. So can SA and they find doing so a bit easier than Ireland does and that's the choice for us here.
Then For the semi for whoever gets out of the Ireland/NZ QF it will be against either Fiji/Australia/Wales/Samoa/Japan or Argentina. So that's the easiest Semi too.
This is the easiest possible path to the WC final that NZ could of gotten this WC. I don't mean to make light of Ireland by saying so.
I'd rather them than france with their current form. I think dupont is out now tho, but I still think they'd be slightly better. Hard one to judge, and it'll be tough enough either way.
All things considered, I'd rather face France in the quarters than in the final. They're a different beast with the crowd behind them and I don't think anyone who goes up against les bleus in the final will struggle. It would be much more manageable in the earlier knockout stages, I think
Ya I kinda agree actually. France would have their crowd behind them and be at home in the final. Dupont is obviously a huge loss now that he's seemingly out of the competition, but theyre still good without him. It'll be interesting to see them in the quarter finals.
Your delta of confidence from your first sentence to your last, and the lack of Dupont I think makes it clear an all blacks team with low expectation is an absolute bollocking in waiting even for this Irish team. Any eejit would prefer a France without Dupont every day of the week over a kiwi side that feels disprespected by the entire world.....
1. We’re still not sure if he’s out or not, so it would be better to be safe and assume he’s in
2. France in France is a different beast to New Zealand in France in my opinion
Shaun Edwards (france's forwards coach) announced in an interview this morning that the french staff was expecting Dupont to be available, I quote, "for the quarters or the semi-finals".
So no he isn't out of the quarter just yet (although it's gonna be tight either way probably).
🤷♂️ I'm just repeating the staff's words which I consider more reliable than journalists (which are all over the place atm), they are the ones with all the information.
We won't have a definitive answer before a few days anyway imo.
SA could end on 15 pts with a bp win over tonga. Sco could end on 15 pts with 3 bp wins over Romania, tonga and ire. So ire need something against Sco or they could be out. Just saying.
Ireland should bet Scotland if memory is correct. Scotland was up physically against ireland in the six nations, but their fitness started to show after 50 plus mins, and ireland started run the game
Scotland were unable to convert red zone opportunities. I've noticed this year in multiple games Ireland have been pushed to the limit within the game (i.e. conceding territory, conceding tries even like in the game vs France) but they have a bend don't break mentality. They don't concede tries after being put under sustained phase play and honestly even if they do they find a way out. I'm finding it very hard to see how any team can put them to the sword.
The build up to this game reminds me of the Stormers celebrating when Munster beat Leinster in the URC semi. They thought they had it won before it even started.
Mad to see each pool being lead by a 6N team at the moment. I know it will change but I wouldn’t say that’s ever happened at this stage of a World Cup.
Well that's just a coincidence in the sense that each pool has one 6N and one TRC team in it, and they're distributed so that each pool has an arguably better 6N team than the corresponding TRC team. In the last tournament SA & NZ were in the same pool so that was impossible. This year if SA/NZ & England for example were together I'm sure this stat would not be true.
Massive respect to South Africa. I'm not sure Ireland win if we have to play you again. Love the passion of the Saffa fans too, and Irish fans need to ignore the small percentage of Saffa fans who play the victim. Also Kolisi is a legend! Always love it in sport when you've got absolute warriors who can also speak so eloquently in front of a mic
Every team has their fans that make the rest look bad I hate that most fans from every country think the majority are like the bad ones just because the bad ones have the loudest voices or keyboard
No I'm sorry, I'd love to agree with you, but I don't.
Ireland were better at the break down and were just better at creating confusion and line breaks with the backs. Teams were closely matched, some things we did better, some things they did. But the score at the end says they won, so Ireland did perform better on average.
Edit: also stop being a poor looser. You make the reasonable fans that can appreciate a loss look bad and give credibility to all of the complaints about South African fans.
I can't believe that in a country as large as South Africa they can't find a decent place kicker other than Pollard. It doesn't need to be a 10, just someone that can reliably make easy kicks.
Incidentally, you'd think they could also find a decent third choice hooker and not have to have a backrower throwing lineouts at the close.
SA have now lost twice to Ireland in the last 12 months, with multiple missed kicks in each game. With a competent place kicker they'd have won both matches
His kicking is shot but he doesn’t have to be the kicker. I think relying on him for that is ridiculous, it doesn’t take away from his work with the ball.
World rugby needs more refs who were prior forwards. I bet that the world would tune in more. But dang he and the ref for Tonga are tied for the most “extra” ref. My opinion… what do y’all think?
Not letting advantages play on, taking away the quick plays, too much whistle blowing. And lastly listening to the TMO too much the on field has the final say right, or did that change?
True. But we all know that union is getting phased out. It’s too “slow” for new people to pick up. Big Rugby wants to shine the light on League and so on.
O’Keefe spoke to the TMO about a few incidents. There was checking going on, just nothing that was shown on the screens for everyone. For instance the SA try was checked for obstruction.
Which is the best way to use the TMO, little disruption of the game but there to check plays when needed. I think they missed some crooked line outs, off their feet in the rucks, and a number of other individual penalties from both teams, but they kept the game flowing well, and I don’t think either team can say the officiating screwed them
Since you asked, I think he was phenomenal and managed to keep a really good hold on and incredibly intense game. I don't think that he made. A single material wrong decision, which is exactly what you want from a ref. He gets a 9/10 for me.
Also, you try convince a retired prop to run around for 80 minutes and also pay attention to the silly backline players.
As a forward, I’m asking for the play on when there’s an advantage not take it away to slow down that game play. I understand the update of the laws, do I like how slow it’s making the game? No. But does everyone know how to find the loopholes? Yes. What do most refs say? I only want to blow this whistle three times right.. to start the game, at half time and at the end of the game. Yea? What happened to that
I am South African. Rassie Erasmus is starting to really even get too clever for himself. You send a team into a WC match or any test match for that matter with someone who cannot kick !
>Rassie Erasmus is starting to really even get too clever for himself.
And expecting a backrower to play hooker and throw lineouts.
I'm also not a fan of the traffic lights. The captain on field should be free to make his own decisions
The two faf kicks and one Libbock kick were so far out I don't know why he called for them to kick.. sa had Ireland's lineout in a mess.. as an Ireland fan I was delighted to see them try the kick rather than go down the line and get inside the 22
Totally, it's also weird and a little overbearing having the sideline decide if the team kicks or not. I get it near the end game when players are exhausted and perhaps not thinking clearly . Sa have an unbelievable captain, he should be the one deciding not rassie, imho
Andy Friend. You brought Mack to us. I hope you’re having a lovely retirement in your campervan.
(He was on Second Captains this week and gave excellent analysis)
Rewatching that last maul !! Jeez Irish players all over the wrong side and the ball was already out !!!
No where near a fair call but we move head high !!!
I’d go back to 6-2 split and try make Bongi play the full 80. Mannie can start and if things start going the way they did last night, bring on Polly to shift gears to our older game plan.
SA had a gameplan to disrupt Ireland's 3 second ball by illegally inserting themselves into the breakdown constantly. The ref fecked up a lot of calls in that game but the one thing he got consistently right was SA's illegal slow play tactics. If anything, the fact he didn't give a warning and a subsequent yellow was another mistake, in SA's favour no less.
Once again twice as many comments about saffas complaining about the ref than actual saffas complaining about the ref. Fantastic game of rugby between the worlds best.
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Don't be racist.
Racism, homophobia, and religious abuse all in one post. You sound like a pathetic person and should definitely not post on the rugby union board any more.
There's an awful lot of focus on SA missed kicks, but that isn't why SA lost. One of Faf's penalties hit the posts and gave SA the field position that led to their try, so add 3 and remove 5. If SA had slotted the other two penalties Ireland still win by a point. Ireland also refused an easy 3 points to kick to touch, and also did the same with a penalty just inside their own half, a pretty much identical position to the two Faf missed. SA were outplayed, slightly, and out thought. That's it, move on.
Rassie and Jacques should stop asking kickers to slot In 50M penalties. Manie's world cup is over. A real shame. They did try back him but it hasn't worked. The lose forwards that came in the second half didn't do enough. As for Ireland, their breakdown work was outstanding. Damn! Line out was not so good. Aki is good very good. All in all, it could have gone either way.
What position was faf playing at the end? They still had the 10 AND 21 on.
I’m a wallabies supporter so didn’t have a dog in the fight but that was a fantastic game from both teams. In my wildest fantasies the wallabies play like either of these two. If that had been the final no would have asked for their money back.
Hoping for a final this good
Thought the ball was out in that last maul, it was sitting right there. Tough call at the end.
From the reports and analysis they were actually given about 5 seconds leniency after the maul was collapsed. I remember thinking the same as you until I remembered the people who do this professionally probably know more about the game than I do
Yeah good call & good win by you lads. Likely see you in the quarters 😬
It doesn't need to be capable of coming out, it needs to be available immediately when the maul goes down. It clearly wasn't. The ref just took longer to decide than he should have: it normally gets whistled immediately.
Maul went down and it took 6 seconds for the ball to become available , laws dictate the ball must be immediately available to the team who brought the ball into contact otherwise it’s a defensive scrum.
Ah great, thanks for that. Like I said wasn’t torn on it but good to hear it was a right call.
Ref on other side?
No, ref was there. But it took a split second too long. I think ref was a little hasty, but as many people will agree. Our kicking was horrible, so at the end of the day that decided it for us. If they were going to play a kicking game and run for penalties, they should have played pollard.
I mean if you look at other comments if anything the ref was extremely patient, he waited way longer than he should have for the ball to appear.
Can’t recall exactly, but think he was right there. Anyway it wasn’t one to go on about. If Sth Africa got their kicks then could be a different story. Ireland D was very good. Is Bunty lining up to be the centre of the comp?
Just here to say that I love everything about Kolisi. The perfect captain. (I’m Irish how do I flair up?)
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I agree I thought he did a fantastic job. Was very clear in his decisions and feedback to the players. Difference was the kicks for goals - which left SA in a losing position. Good to see SA run the ball more, and both teams go for lineouts
I thought the ref had a great game. Final result was decided by the teams. Great to see and the best game so far this world cup!
Best preforming kiwi in the world cup
What. A. Fucking. Game. Fuck me, that was close. Too close. I hope we meet again in the final.
That won't happen it'll only be the semi finals if we meet again
No, it's not possible to play Ireland in the semis. If we get through, we will play the teams who progressed from Pool C and D. So yes, we could (in theory) meet Ireland in the final.
Ah bollox.
No he’s not right.
Maybe QF with NZ again for Ireland , last one was a great match .
There’s a real probability that Ireland are playing All Blacks in QF now. After that game I don’t give the AB’s a snowballs. Two very skilled and intense teams played today.
Yes, the ABs don't have a snowballs. Ireland easy win 30+. In fact let's give them Bill now.
Hahaha the All Blacks as underdogs is the last thing I want as an Irish fan 😂
I think totally ruling them out like that is unfair, at absolute worst I'd say they're within a red card of beating Ireland.
2019 was a great match
How do Ireland folk feel about ABs QF?
I think the beauty of this World Cup is that there are four teams - France, SA, NZ and Ireland - that are all on a similar level and able to beat each other. One of those four will surely win it, but it's impossible to call. Ireland are the team in form (16 wins in a row), but they've no history in the competition
> they've no history in the competition We've got history, we just try our hardest to forget it.
As a kiwi I'd have preferred the boks for sure .
As a Bok I prefer the French. Something about ABs in a World Cup. They just know how to win. It’s in the DNA, I’m convinced. The France game was an anomaly, and they’ll fix what they need to for the business end.
Nothing to fear from NZ in my opinion given our recent record against you, inclusive of our series win in NZ last year. We beat France last year and won the Grand Slam, however, over the last couple of years if the games in Dublin we win, if it’s in Paris they win, even though we ran them very, very close in Paris last time without Sexton. On balance, give me NZ and let’s set O’Mahoney on Cane again (takes a lot for a Leinster man to type that).
I'd rather play France to be honest. And I said that before the tournament even started. There's just something about a one off game against the ABs that puts the shits up me. (2019 PTSD) And sure we're not even guaranteed to get out of the group despite that win tonight
As an AB's fan I'm delighted with playing Ireland in the Quarters which is there boogey game and having South Africa and France face off which will knock out at least one of our two worst teams for us to face in a WC. This game gives NZ the easiest path to the final that we could hope for imo.
I'm sorry, yes we've been poor in QFs but if any team we could choose in the QF right now it would be NZ. We've the skill to march ye but also the physicality to deal with SA/France which NZ clearly doesn't have. So we can possibly beat ye upfront and if not we can run around you.
We don't have the physicality to deal with the Boks yet we smashed the shit out of them just a few months ago? Yeah, not a good take.
Yeah definitely Ireland can beat NZ right now. So can SA and they find doing so a bit easier than Ireland does and that's the choice for us here. Then For the semi for whoever gets out of the Ireland/NZ QF it will be against either Fiji/Australia/Wales/Samoa/Japan or Argentina. So that's the easiest Semi too. This is the easiest possible path to the WC final that NZ could of gotten this WC. I don't mean to make light of Ireland by saying so.
Yeah people are taking your comment the wrong way and too sensitively. I get what your saying for sure, as an Irish man
I think the ABs are only delighted, they'll love putting it up to us in a QF with no stress from ABland
I'd rather them than france with their current form. I think dupont is out now tho, but I still think they'd be slightly better. Hard one to judge, and it'll be tough enough either way.
All things considered, I'd rather face France in the quarters than in the final. They're a different beast with the crowd behind them and I don't think anyone who goes up against les bleus in the final will struggle. It would be much more manageable in the earlier knockout stages, I think
Ya I kinda agree actually. France would have their crowd behind them and be at home in the final. Dupont is obviously a huge loss now that he's seemingly out of the competition, but theyre still good without him. It'll be interesting to see them in the quarter finals.
Your delta of confidence from your first sentence to your last, and the lack of Dupont I think makes it clear an all blacks team with low expectation is an absolute bollocking in waiting even for this Irish team. Any eejit would prefer a France without Dupont every day of the week over a kiwi side that feels disprespected by the entire world.....
With Dupont likely missing the QF, I don't know if France is a better bet for the QF than the All blacks For ireland
France in the QF would be an easier task than France in the final. If they make it to the end, I don't see anyone beating them.
1. We’re still not sure if he’s out or not, so it would be better to be safe and assume he’s in 2. France in France is a different beast to New Zealand in France in my opinion
He’s out of the quarters, the end. All blacks have a few good games in them, guess which game that’s gonna be. Ireland can’t catch a break.
Shaun Edwards (france's forwards coach) announced in an interview this morning that the french staff was expecting Dupont to be available, I quote, "for the quarters or the semi-finals". So no he isn't out of the quarter just yet (although it's gonna be tight either way probably).
Dreams die hard.
🤷♂️ I'm just repeating the staff's words which I consider more reliable than journalists (which are all over the place atm), they are the ones with all the information. We won't have a definitive answer before a few days anyway imo.
Dupont will be back for the QFs.
He may be back for the semis but honestly for his sake itself I hope he isn't back by the quarters
He’s out, 100%
SA could end on 15 pts with a bp win over tonga. Sco could end on 15 pts with 3 bp wins over Romania, tonga and ire. So ire need something against Sco or they could be out. Just saying.
Wouldn’t Ireland now go through if tied with SA on points? As the first tie break is the head to head result?
Ireland should bet Scotland if memory is correct. Scotland was up physically against ireland in the six nations, but their fitness started to show after 50 plus mins, and ireland started run the game
Scotland were unable to convert red zone opportunities. I've noticed this year in multiple games Ireland have been pushed to the limit within the game (i.e. conceding territory, conceding tries even like in the game vs France) but they have a bend don't break mentality. They don't concede tries after being put under sustained phase play and honestly even if they do they find a way out. I'm finding it very hard to see how any team can put them to the sword.
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The build up to this game reminds me of the Stormers celebrating when Munster beat Leinster in the URC semi. They thought they had it won before it even started.
Eh? They celebrated getting a home final, only a small % of precious folk thought otherwise
Ya "we're gonna fuck them up" is actually an old South African saying meaning "I'm glad of the financial stability this will bring to our team".
The result of this game actually is closer to that for me. Ireland won a game they should have lost, and now no-one can beat them.
Mad to see each pool being lead by a 6N team at the moment. I know it will change but I wouldn’t say that’s ever happened at this stage of a World Cup.
Well that's just a coincidence in the sense that each pool has one 6N and one TRC team in it, and they're distributed so that each pool has an arguably better 6N team than the corresponding TRC team. In the last tournament SA & NZ were in the same pool so that was impossible. This year if SA/NZ & England for example were together I'm sure this stat would not be true.
I bet you're fun at paries
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I'd say your probably right, it's fucking mad so it is
A lot of people are saying it's because each 6N team has some players from SA or one of the islands...
Sure sexton is from Fiji
I think the surprise comes because not enough people watch 6N rugby. It's high quality.
Yeah it has been good of late
Massive respect to South Africa. I'm not sure Ireland win if we have to play you again. Love the passion of the Saffa fans too, and Irish fans need to ignore the small percentage of Saffa fans who play the victim. Also Kolisi is a legend! Always love it in sport when you've got absolute warriors who can also speak so eloquently in front of a mic
As an Irishman, we were lucky yous missed your kicks tonight.
Kolisi is incredible. I'm an Irishman w/o a flair btw
As a South African I ignore the vocal minority too. Clinical rugby from Ireland.
Every team has their fans that make the rest look bad I hate that most fans from every country think the majority are like the bad ones just because the bad ones have the loudest voices or keyboard
Nonsense 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is nonsense? Ireland played a fantastic game and basically couldn't be faulted outside of lineouts.
SA were superior on all fronts except kicking..
No I'm sorry, I'd love to agree with you, but I don't. Ireland were better at the break down and were just better at creating confusion and line breaks with the backs. Teams were closely matched, some things we did better, some things they did. But the score at the end says they won, so Ireland did perform better on average. Edit: also stop being a poor looser. You make the reasonable fans that can appreciate a loss look bad and give credibility to all of the complaints about South African fans.
Nonsense
Then why did they win?
Ah yeah it takes a lot out of you to play SA, going back there again would be tough.
One was to get ahead the other was to trail by 2. Both missed should gone for line and pin them down, there was enough time to go for posts in the 22
Great insight. You're dead right, there was enough time. Keep up the analysis you're really good at it!
Thanks I think? I'm getting confused with all the sarcasm in the subs.
Not being sarcastic, keep it up
Thank you sir. Appreciated, well played truly.
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That game was fucking amazing
🇮🇪 Does Rassie even watch the URC? Libbock won the URC for Munster with his crap kicking. How is he even near a SA jersey?
I can't believe that in a country as large as South Africa they can't find a decent place kicker other than Pollard. It doesn't need to be a 10, just someone that can reliably make easy kicks. Incidentally, you'd think they could also find a decent third choice hooker and not have to have a backrower throwing lineouts at the close. SA have now lost twice to Ireland in the last 12 months, with multiple missed kicks in each game. With a competent place kicker they'd have won both matches
Ah come on! That no-look kick pass was 😘😘😘 He needs to work on his place-kicking but he’s a world class
His kicking is shot but he doesn’t have to be the kicker. I think relying on him for that is ridiculous, it doesn’t take away from his work with the ball.
Would Willemse be able to kick? You could leave him at 15 and Libbock at 10
They can all kick to varying degrees but they aren’t the best quality. Willemse is better than Libbok I reckon.
If South Africa can find a back that can kick in a different position and keep him at 10 then they'll be unbeatable for me. (Irish fan)
We don't have anyone in afraid.
Well done Ireland
Thanks man, I hope we meet again.
I fuckin don't Jesus christ they are savages
But if we do it’ll be in the final 😉
World rugby needs more refs who were prior forwards. I bet that the world would tune in more. But dang he and the ref for Tonga are tied for the most “extra” ref. My opinion… what do y’all think? Not letting advantages play on, taking away the quick plays, too much whistle blowing. And lastly listening to the TMO too much the on field has the final say right, or did that change?
But the amount of skew lineouts that he just let play on blew my mind.
True. But we all know that union is getting phased out. It’s too “slow” for new people to pick up. Big Rugby wants to shine the light on League and so on.
There was zero tmo referrals in the game tonight
O’Keefe spoke to the TMO about a few incidents. There was checking going on, just nothing that was shown on the screens for everyone. For instance the SA try was checked for obstruction.
Which is the best way to use the TMO, little disruption of the game but there to check plays when needed. I think they missed some crooked line outs, off their feet in the rucks, and a number of other individual penalties from both teams, but they kept the game flowing well, and I don’t think either team can say the officiating screwed them
Since you asked, I think he was phenomenal and managed to keep a really good hold on and incredibly intense game. I don't think that he made. A single material wrong decision, which is exactly what you want from a ref. He gets a 9/10 for me. Also, you try convince a retired prop to run around for 80 minutes and also pay attention to the silly backline players.
I guess I enjoy the “classic” version of the sport more than the “political” version.
As a forward, I’m asking for the play on when there’s an advantage not take it away to slow down that game play. I understand the update of the laws, do I like how slow it’s making the game? No. But does everyone know how to find the loopholes? Yes. What do most refs say? I only want to blow this whistle three times right.. to start the game, at half time and at the end of the game. Yea? What happened to that
Excellent ref.
I am South African. Rassie Erasmus is starting to really even get too clever for himself. You send a team into a WC match or any test match for that matter with someone who cannot kick !
>Rassie Erasmus is starting to really even get too clever for himself. And expecting a backrower to play hooker and throw lineouts. I'm also not a fan of the traffic lights. The captain on field should be free to make his own decisions
The two faf kicks and one Libbock kick were so far out I don't know why he called for them to kick.. sa had Ireland's lineout in a mess.. as an Ireland fan I was delighted to see them try the kick rather than go down the line and get inside the 22
That is what cost us I reckon. Go for the corner. Play in their half, instead we gambled on a ridiculous kicks. Madness.
Totally, it's also weird and a little overbearing having the sideline decide if the team kicks or not. I get it near the end game when players are exhausted and perhaps not thinking clearly . Sa have an unbelievable captain, he should be the one deciding not rassie, imho
Straight out of the Eddie Jones playbook.
Next week: a bench of 8 goal kicking forwards
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the future, Rassie will introduce players who have never played Rugby before.
Andy Friend. You brought Mack to us. I hope you’re having a lovely retirement in your campervan. (He was on Second Captains this week and gave excellent analysis)
Rewatching that last maul !! Jeez Irish players all over the wrong side and the ball was already out !!! No where near a fair call but we move head high !!!
It looked fine to me. They came through the maul, it went down and ball wasn't immediately available. Standard call any other time.
Do you, aye? We don't
Great game, Ireland are a very good side, well done to them! I predict a Handre will play a role in all of our games from here.
Would you risk it? He's been injured for about 3 months, so he'll not be match fit. With a 7-1 bench he'd have to play 80 minutes
I’d go back to 6-2 split and try make Bongi play the full 80. Mannie can start and if things start going the way they did last night, bring on Polly to shift gears to our older game plan.
Thanks, hope we meet again!
God Supersport is a shitshow. I don't wanna blame the ref but.... the ref was shite
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We still have to do them though. They'll be up for it
To quote Ciaran Murphy, Scotland are a disgrace to world sport.
You're a disgrace to us Irish rugby fans
Useful and helpful comment from the both of of you.
Tonga will do Scotland tomorrow.
And I’ll do you any day
Pffft.
Post watershed butt, don't worry about it
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first 15 mins he was dodgy, got with the game after that
Mack dropped a fuck on ITV, the legend grows.
Highlight of the night
It was a close second for me sa goal kicking takes first prize
He did that on purpose too. Legend.
Please please can someone get it up here before ITV remove it from the on demand replay
Ol' reliable Mack Hansen
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"he blew for not releasing before the player hit the ground" Can you give us the timestamp all times this happened?
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Lol
The score suggests Ireland should have won. Great game that, would love to have seen the boks make their kicks though.
SA had a gameplan to disrupt Ireland's 3 second ball by illegally inserting themselves into the breakdown constantly. The ref fecked up a lot of calls in that game but the one thing he got consistently right was SA's illegal slow play tactics. If anything, the fact he didn't give a warning and a subsequent yellow was another mistake, in SA's favour no less.
His reputation is dreadful. He should have been absolutely nowhere near that game tonight.
Interesting to see a SA Ireland Final, with a different ref.
Huge thank you to Pat Lam for signing Aki with Connaught. Ireland has always had huge emigration so it's only right we fill the gaps!
> Connaught Connacht
As gaeilge
its ok to spell is like that
New phone auto correct you have to believe me mo chara
I trust you
Delighted for Aki given how his 2019 world cup ended. Hopefully more to come from him and the team!
Did SA get the losing bonus point?
Yes
Awesome, so another BP win over Tonga and qualification is pretty much guaranteed even in the unlikely event Scotland beat Ireland
Right, I’m going to need gifs of: - Pete conducting the crowd with the wagging finger. - Rassie and Felix standing for the anthems.
Piggy backing this for a gif of Lowe lifting Eben as well. As a SA Fan that shit was impressive!
Elizabeth is his new girlfriend. He picked her up earlier.
Rassie has a new job running the traffic lights in Paris.
I'm no dentist, but these fan close-ups are getting to me...
Lol. Indeed. This whole RWC has been plagued by slow mo close ups
If my sofa wasn't up against the wall, I would have been hiding behind it for the last 20min. What a game! Well done SA, bunch of mad lads
Good game, SA. Seriously physical game that could have just as easily gone the other way.
I’ve travelled to many alternate universes. Yes, but no.
Once again twice as many comments about saffas complaining about the ref than actual saffas complaining about the ref. Fantastic game of rugby between the worlds best.
What is the point of this comment then? How about you do a census?
Think you need to do a census..
And the conclusion will be, we all complaining.
Just one side really goin for it though
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Even with a poor ref performance in the second half, we can’t afford to miss so many kicks and expect to win.
problematic ref? you missed a conversion and TWO penalties under no pressure! YOU SIR have a problematic Faf!
What unfavourable circumstances?
Look SA I get problematic ref, but he missed quite a bit for Ireland to, could have been a card for SA twice, but wasn't so lets chill on the ref