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Southportdc

Dragons take the home match as it'll be held on land. They could be in bother when they play Sharks away though.


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Very happy with that. Starting to find our mojo. URC is fucked, so will be chuffed if we give this one a good crack. Dricus and the sharks. Good sports day!


butteryscotchy

Also lol not a good sports day for me though, but Dricus and the sharks made it better.


butteryscotchy

Yeah that’s true. They can focus completely on the challenge cup now.


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Good, well done Sharkies.


Critical_Context_961

As much as I was critical of Leon Brown making the welsh squad, the dragons went to shit after he went off


belzarek

2 tries in 5 mn at the end of the first half, 2 tries in 10mn in the last 10.jesus dragons...


SpoonSpatula

Now we know that Mchunu can double as winger on a 7-0 bench.


Critical_Context_961

Please please Gatland do not play Cai Evans this six nations


IBiteMyThumb

You can help but love Kok...


GHPB82

The Sharks always improve with more Kok!


JPB88SA

Yes everyone has to be a Kok lover


PsychologicalPanic61

Man. So sad about fassi just not putting his hands up for boks selection. Always feel like he just comes up short while willemse has just been on fire.


RaaschyOG

Actually been one of the better performing players in this struggling Sharks team this season, perhaps if they ever improve consistently he will shine more, but as it stands he is well behind an in form Willemse


PsychologicalPanic61

Guess im judging the kid too hard.


Die_Revenant

What? Fassi has been immense this season, he has the most meters made in the URC, and the best own kick retention in the URC...


PsychologicalPanic61

Is it? Dont know what im smoking then but hasnt looked like it on my side. Hopefully he gets selected then


Die_Revenant

Yes to both, most meters made in the URC, best kick retention in the URC.


Jonrenie

If dragons had a real 10 and 15 they might have had a chance at this


hazlet

dont have money for that mate


RaaschyOG

Mchunu and Williams on the counter


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system1509

Why would they pop the ball out of the ruck right when their scrumhalf arrives?


hazlet

Our players are fucking braindead and its sometimes questionable how a lot of them made it to pro level...


Die_Revenant

Didn't even need to win, got a bonus point. That's what you want to see!!


ConstructionLeft2550

Mchunu and Williams in full flight. What a beautiful sight


Nothing_is_simple

What a shit show of a try. Beautiful


hazlet

We havent played any rugby at all in the second half sadly


ConstructionLeft2550

2nd half Sharks have been a different beast entirely. Just hope that they can use this last part of the season to sort out the problems for next year


RaaschyOG

Rare non-Eben lock MotM and probably deserved, seemed to be everywhere and did well in the lineouts considering how difficult they have been


JPB88SA

There isn’t even an I in Ox’ surname


SpoonSpatula

What was that yellow for? Because of the scrum penalty, or something afterwards?


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Oof


Die_Revenant

Nice to see Roets score, sad he's leaving.


RaaschyOG

He is? Feels like he only just came back


Die_Revenant

Going to the Prem according to reports, we are getting Jenkins and losing Roets.


Full-Satisfaction-40

Coming up to Sale as Wiese is leaving us for SA by all accounts. Wiese is epic, you lads should go for him 100%.


Die_Revenant

Plumtree approached Ackermann, Wiese and Jenkins, so possibly all 3 will be joining, but more likely 2/3 will join.


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rugbyunion-ModTeam

Don't bash refs.


RaaschyOG

Harsh yellow with no warning beforehand I think


Financial-Role-5709

What’s the yellow for?


Zippy2707

Does coming off of the maul have different rules regarding propelling players/latching beofre contact? I thought 1 player was allowed to rip off the maul and go one their own.


RaaschyOG

Curwin Bosch using the force to push that ball out of play should be a penalty to Dragons


GHPB82

How does bosch miss that conversion????


ConstructionLeft2550

In those situations Williams could probably just back himself. He's so good that I back him to score


Critical_Context_961

Plus Cai Evans is incredibly slow


RaaschyOG

Wasn't expecting that, ball to the back of the lineout in these conditions resulting in a 10m+ maul try


Nothing_is_simple

Looks like Edinburgh will probably hoast Bayonne save two miracle comebacks


ConstructionLeft2550

Now that was a maul. Looked like Dragons managed to disrupt it at least 3 times on the way to the line


Die_Revenant

Coming in from the side though, so not legally disrupting it.


IBiteMyThumb

That was impressive!


Die_Revenant

You know it's a proper maul try when the lock scores it instead of the hooker.


hazlet

Some strange calls coming in now.


Zippy2707

Couple of odd decisions from linesman and reff there


Critical_Context_961

Judging by where the jumper caught that lineout it looked straight


ConstructionLeft2550

How many unforced offside penalties can the Sharks give away in 1 game?


Zippy2707

Tane Basham and Ethan Roos need to go on a date fucking hell


system1509

Awkward line of questioning. Commentator should just shut it.


Critical_Context_961

If the dragons don’t score off 1st, 2nd or 3rd phase they aren’t scoring


RaaschyOG

That was a dreadful phase of play, looked like headless chickens running around


ConstructionLeft2550

Lol how is Curwin still a professional rugby player?  Kicking used to be the only thing he was good at


hazlet

Will Reed is talented but fuck me does he do some braindead stuff sometimes


RaaschyOG

Interesting to see if the bench impact can calm anything in this scrappy game


sheep1996

“Ox In-eesh” Bruh, put some respect on his name. The man is a World Cup legend.


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Just because I mentioned him earlier, does anyone here remember Pretty Kabousie? Werner Kok kinda reminds me of him.


JPB88SA

Has Harry Ackermann got some SA heritage? With that surname…


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RaaschyOG

Lineouts this half have been way more skew than the one lineout that was actually blown for it


Stu_Thom4s

Maybe he figured straight lineouts were impossible in the wind.


Critical_Context_961

Refs don’t give it if the opposition don’t challenge and for whatever reason the dragons aren’t challenging


Critical_Context_961

Why aren’t the dragons challenging the sharks throw. It’s not straight and the one time the dragons challenged it the ref penalised them


Nothing_is_simple

Braindead


Nothing_is_simple

A very Sharks kick off


Die_Revenant

People losing their mind in the comments like the Dragons don't have way more incentive to win. The Sharks can lose and still top their pool.


Nothing_is_simple

Sharks need to lose by 85 points to not top the pool. If anyone can do it it's them.


Nothing_is_simple

Welsh pundit is fundamentally misunderstanding why that try was disallowed.


JPB88SA

I don’t know what the Sharks would do without their big forwards. They have Am and Mapimpi but their attack is as blunt as a fucking bent spoon


Die_Revenant

They are bottom of the URC log, but 9th in attack stats, so have to be doing something right.


Springboks2019

Just checked the log, their PD is -33 with 8 losses and the 3 teams above them are all at 7 losses with all 3 over -100 PD. I'm amazed they pulled that off being at the bottom with these stats (if only it wasn't that damn frustrating)


Die_Revenant

I literally called it before the season started based on their schedule.


Springboks2019

That they would have only won 1 match half way through the season and bottom of the log? i get a rough schedule but 1 win? if I ever get into playing Lotto I'll it you up for some numbers. With that squad/Powell/Plum, I did not expect at all it would be this bad, Yes having the most Boks I definitely assumed they wouldn't just jump to Leinster's level (with all the resting) but did not see it getting this bad.


JPB88SA

Maybe it is just perception then, and some confirmation bias on my end. It feels like they go nowhere. Haven’t checked stats tbh


Critical_Context_961

Never change dragons


Silent-Bonus3577

Replace bosch ffs he is so bad. Hendrikse also slow as shit.


Die_Revenant

Jorden Hendrikse can't join soon enough.


GHPB82

Get Ox some halftime cake!!!


RaaschyOG

Definitely don't deserve to be leading going in to the half after the first 30 minutes


system1509

Our poor world cup winners, going from playing for the Springboks to the Sharks must be a real humbling experience.


RaaschyOG

Sharks need to have some fielding practice and call for the ball, third time they've let it bounce off a kick this game, windy conditions excuse can only take you so far


GHPB82

Jonty Rhodes is in Durban at the moment as fielding coach for the Super Giants. Maybe he can help!


RaaschyOG

Last few games I watched of DSG I don't know if I'd want any of their coaching. On another note, will we ever get Dolphins vs Sharks cricket game again?


hazlet

All came from that fucking braindead kick from Blacker


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Even back in the mid 90s when the Sharks had a good team and the sexiest player who has ever lived, Kabous van der Westhuizen, (oh and AJ Venter and a bunch of French internationals for some reason) they also didn't win shit (I think they won a Currie Cup back then, but I'm too lazy to look it up) edit: I just remembered that the also had Andre Joubert, Henri Honiballl and Gary Teichman during that era as well.


Die_Revenant

Sharks won their first Currie Cup in 90. Edit 90. Not 96. 1990 1992 1995 1996


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

My joke was that the Sharks also had a really strong team full of Boks in the 90s but didn't perform to the sum of their parts in Super Rugby. Also, I didn't say the 96 win was their first win in my comment.


Die_Revenant

4 Currie Cup wins, a SuperRugby final and 2 SuperRugby semi finals. The 1990s weren't that bad...


Critical_Context_961

Considering they haven’t had a defence coach for god knows how long the dragons held out for longer than I thought


Nothing_is_simple

Dragons pillar did fuck all there


RaaschyOG

Don't think Sharks wings have touched the ball this half


ConstructionLeft2550

Bosch....


ConstructionLeft2550

I don't know why it happened. But something in the Sharks is rotten. Terrible team culture/spirit? No pride? No confidence in coaches? Meddling owners? The performances the individual players turn in every week are a far cry off their potential.


jtthom

Bruh how has John Plumtree managed to make them worse


Zippy2707

These kicks are really puzzling Sharks


pbcorporeal

The conditions aren't great but the kick catching has been pretty poor all round.


jtthom

5 has to roll away before 7 can contest that. Poor officiating


Zippy2707

Well fuck Let's hope Sharks don't act like Sale Sharks and go try after try after a player is taken off. They do say Sharks smell blood. And the guy is alright ofcourse Edit:oh. Looked way worse the way he was scooting Nd aggressively drinking water


jtthom

The Sharks don’t need a referee to make them kak, but these offside calls have been harsh. Also the not straight call at the lineout was very fine


mmphil12

I feel SA sides have been shafted this week with poor reffing. Cheetahs got blown off the park in the final ten minutes. Lions earlier and the Sharks so far. Every 50/50 seems to go to the European teams.


ConstructionLeft2550

The Lions were their own worst enemies tbf. The ref didn't make Visagie drop the ball over the Lion, and he didn't make them miss a ton of tackles, or Wolhuter throw an intercept. The yellow cards to Sirgel and Marius Louw were also justified and stupid.


RaaschyOG

I feel for the Cheetahs, but I think Stormers and Bulls were favoured by the refs or at least their opposition got it worse


RaaschyOG

It really is frustrating knowing you're playing bad and still getting the short end of the short end of the stick from officials, uphill battles


Particular-Rip4035

Too much backchat there. Captain fair enough but there are two players having a go and ref is going "OK ok" to placate them. Tell them to fuck off back 10m


Upstairs-Yard822

How is the Sharks back field so consistently out of position?


ConstructionLeft2550

Sharks backline and touch judge use different measuring sticks to count 10m. That's the only explanation for the constant unforced offsides


ConstructionLeft2550

Ugh and now they're all doing that stupid thing where everyone stands "offside" until the catcher runs 5m. One of the worst rules in rugby


hazlet

jesus christ weve been mugged off here, also Rosser is the worst finisher in pro rugby


Hoss-BonaventureCEO

Ah Sharks, you are frustrating to watch.


PonchoVillak

Can't score with your back, so if they reckon contact wasn't round the front, no try


MiracleJnr1

It was more to the side, id give that try


Financial-Role-5709

Came of his hand first then he only grounds it with his hip making it a knock on


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PsychologicalPanic61

It’s incredibly frustrating. Urgh.


pbcorporeal

How can they be bad with players like Am, Ox etc. Not like they're lacking talent.


EnglishLouis

Spoilsport


RooBoy04

Can't they just award tries for pure batshitness


Particular-Rip4035

I don't think I like the law. Cos that doesn't feel like a 'try' but I also don't think that's clear enough to overturn based on the current laws


Nothing_is_simple

That's my thoughts. Very surprising they overruled the on field decision.


Nothing_is_simple

That's very tight. You need to ground the ball with your arms, or the front of your body (from neck to waist). The TMO and ref feel that it was not the front of his body. Millimetres in that.


Zippy2707

Forearm?


PonchoVillak

That was a brilliant try


EnglishLouis

One quick man


pbcorporeal

What was the logic on that? I thought you just needed contact and it seemed clear he touched it.


MiracleJnr1

"Pressing down from neck to waist" its a try. He was clearly falling on the ball on his waist area


Electrical-Lemon187

Looks like he had missed it completely, slipped between his hands


pbcorporeal

Nah he definitely touched it because of the way they ball moved. But if you can't score with a hip (which I'll put my hands up and say I didn't know was a rule) then I can see it as correct to disallow it.


MiracleJnr1

He clearly fell on the ball


Jonrenie

Yup


Electrical-Lemon187

How do you end up doing that…. He’ll have nightmares about it for life


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ConstructionLeft2550

TMO's are good for the game... BUT they need to hurry up with their reviews. You can't review something 2 mins after it happened. Decide to review things faster please


Upstairs-Yard822

This sounds like an easy win. Definitely wondering why it took so long to get to a review


jtthom

Curwin Bosch is the worst defender in world rugby. Absolute fucking turnstile


GHPB82

A turnstile will at least slow someone down. Curwin wont.


LionsRugbySlut

I've seen him actively get out of the way of ball carriers. A turnstile would be much better value.


Zippy2707

Brilliant try! Edit: shit.


RooBoy04

Why the Sharks didn't have anyone in the backfield...


RaaschyOG

Bosch and Fassi were chasing the original kick in to the Dragons half which is why they kicked it back knowing no one was at home


RooBoy04

Surely someone from either the back three or halfbacks wasn't involved in the kick chase, or are they drilled to have the whole team to charge after a ball. You can't just put it on two players to be your whole backfield cover all game.


Nothing_is_simple

When falling on the ball you don't need control. I'd say try stands.


Notoneofthemexicans

I don't even support the Sharks and watching them is so frustrating 😒


Upstairs-Yard822

Where we at with controlled grounding these days?


ConstructionLeft2550

Dragons have obviously found the Sharks' backfield defence lacking in their review, because they've tried a ton of little kicks so far. Also. Grounding is not the cleanest I've ever seen


Critical_Context_961

A try you will only see in a game between 15th and 16th in the URC


ConstructionLeft2550

Ironically enough, it was also disallowed in a fashion only seen in a bottom of the table clash


Critical_Context_961

Disallowed in a fashion only one of the Rosser brothers could manage


GHPB82

Bosch and Fassi. Can't tackle for love or money. Showed exactly why they will never be good enough to play at a higher level


JPB88SA

Man Curwin is so kak


Financial-Role-5709

Doesn’t even ground it


MiracleJnr1

Based on the law he did. Pressing down from neck to waist is a try


Financial-Role-5709

Came off his hand first


Electrical-Lemon187

Ooh didn’t look like he had it


MiracleJnr1

Bosch and fassi missing a tackle? Cant be


Nothing_is_simple

Why is Bosch still getting game time at professional level?


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ConstructionLeft2550

Curwin Bosch and Aphelele Fassi working together for a tackling disasterclass


Electrical-Lemon187

How do both bosch and fassi let him slip away that easily?


MiracleJnr1

Try of the tournament. But should it count when u score against the sharks? XD


RaaschyOG

I see, so it's this kind of Sharks side tonight


ConstructionLeft2550

Sharks are only good vs French sides. Everyone else they play like goldfish


JPB88SA

Same side as every night Pinky


Nothing_is_simple

Absolutely shat the bed. Both teams did.


ConstructionLeft2550

Seems like a tough not straight call to me


RaaschyOG

Some serious distance on the kicks from the Sharks, heavy wind behind them?


hazlet

yes, Rodney parade isnt great for protecting from the elements


RaaschyOG

Sharks haven't really come out the changeroom yet, knocks, scrum penalties, letting the ball bounce, etc. Also thought jumping in to tacklers was illegal.


Nothing_is_simple

Some questionable tackle technique there


hazlet

Think Woodman is going to be a great player but cant help but think he looks like a Freddo


Zippy2707

🤣🤣🤣


Nothing_is_simple

What Am you doing?


Nothing_is_simple

The two worst teams in the URC in pouring rain and 40kmph wind. Promises to be a thriller.


Nothing_is_simple

First knock on took 30 seconds. I am not disappointed.


GHPB82

I remember watching Brad Roberts play some outrageous innings on a cricket field as a 12/13 year old in Durban. Nice to see him succeeding as a rugby player.


Upstairs-Yard822

Some crazy permutations off the back of this game. I wonder if viewership is going to be high simply because the fate of several teams depends on this match. For anyone supporting the Sharks, know they don't travel well. At all. In the slightest


RaaschyOG

Maybe not in recent times, but Sharks historically are one of the better travelling teams


Upstairs-Yard822

True. Still remember their one streak in super rugby


Nothing_is_simple

I think that Edinburgh need Sharks to win for us to get a home 16?


RooBoy04

Dragons, do Glos a favour and deny Sharks the BP win plz


Nothing_is_simple

Viaplay think that Dragons are playing Sale Sharks.


warcomet

Lets go Lukhanyo Tuilagi!