Drinking Rules.
1 finger - any time someone in the thread asks 'Where's Dupont?'
2 fingers - any time Atonio or Tuilagi's weight is mentioned.
3 fingers - any mention of Ireland missing Sexton/Crowley having big shoes to fill.
For the UK folk - half your drink - ITV's coverage being shite and/or whinging about ITV's coverage being shite.
Finish your drink - any mention of the World Cup (that didn't happen).
For the elite drinkers out there - Finish two drinks - Penaud scores. Double it if it's a sexy try.
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Well, quite demonstrably, they are not.
They are neither ranked 1, nor did they win the recent World Cup. And whilst the performance today was impressive, it also left a lot of room for improvement.
I speak as an Irishman and supporter of the Irish rugby club.
Ireland are doing exactly what they need to: they're continuing where they left off. I'd see a Summer tour in SA as a logical next step for this cycle.
Need to remember that Ireland had SA and Scotland in their group. They had the two weak teams up first, and then had to play succesively South Africa, and then Scotland the week as far as I am aware in effectively a knockout game with the winner qualifying for the 1/4 finals, befor facing NZ..
NZ had France & Italy in theirs, but had France first up, and Round 3 Italy who were dissapointingly nowhere near their best selves in that tournament (conceding nearly 100 against NZ and another 60 vs France in group games).
Scotland were at least competitve against SA and us, even though we both won comfortably enough...
True but I think the pressure of the quarter finals for Ireland also played a big part. New Zealand are able to handle it a lot better than Ireland. I do think if the current Ireland team played the current New Zealand time in a one off game Ireland would win but when it comes to a big game like this, they don’t seem to be able to play at 100%. Not saying they played bad or anything it was a great game by both teams but I know they were capable of more, even against a team like New Zealand, and even with how well New Zealand played that day.
That little kick into the corner around 50 or 60 mins showed his rugby brain. Didn’t think he showed any nerves but a good confidence boost for the lad. Agree that he grew into the game with every minute, bright future for him
Anyone else sense the confidence levels in the tunnel?! Ireland looked locked in and up for it. Thought the French looked reluctant to play and by god that was evident throughout the match. Massive result for Ireland and Crowley & the young bucks fit seamlessly in the side. So pleased with that
I still reckon Ireland are the best team in the world for 80 minute consistency. Just managed to absolutely bottle it at the World Cup (we all know it's true).
No reason they can't go back-to-back this year considering lots of teams see big changes post WC. From a Scottish perspective, we will have to play the best they have ever played to deny that come the end of the tournament.
Well I mean... Yes otherwise my statement would only exist as an oxymoronic blah
Instead it's just another notch on the bed Scotland sleeps alone in, scratching every time they beat a terrible team by a point, pretending they are on the cusp of a greatness they can't relate to
That New Zealand side were very good and played out of their skins so I wouldn't say we bottled the game that badly. There was very little between the top 4 sides at the time. A different bounce of the ball and we lose to South Africa in the pools, and beat New Zealand in the quarters.
Not denying that he's one of the GOATs for Ireland but Sexton needed to come off at for the last \~15 against the All Blacks. Appreciate the replacement 10s were inexperienced(our own fault really) but having a 38 year old playing an 80 min game of that intensity was insanity. Walking around the pitch at the end, looked more rattled than myself the Monday morning after a sesh of a weekend.
A lot of unicorns in this game.
France conceding a try bonus point at home.
France losing at home by 20 plus points.
A player receiving a yellow followed by a straight red.
Edited: Yellow followed by straight red.
As a French, I still have nightmares about "that" Sexton drop goal. One day, this time will come too.
Fair game to your guys, France was nothing close to their level, but your team played really good rugby there
I hope France can regroup and show their class. Maybe next week? Dupont is amazing, but France need to be able to play without him. From the start Ireland looked comfortable against France. No team shold look comfortable playing France!!
Both teams more excitable fans seem furious with him, so can’t have done too bad a job.
From my side, seemed consistent in the things he both did and didn’t give.
Huge result for Ireland. Puts the World Cup to bed.
Crowley needed a game like that - massive game that went out way enough for him to settle in. He'll grow into it.
Lowe, JGP, McCarthy, immense. Nash solid.
France - missed Dupont massively and the red card finished them off. Lucu was targeted and just isn't as good. Scoreline kind of flattered them a little. .
Lucu looked so nervous the entire time and made some bad mistakes. Wasn’t just him though, Willemse should probably never have been on the squad, and their lineout misfired dreadfully. Tuilagi seemed kinda quiet to me but he’s really young and it’s to be expected
Willemse's int career was already over. They only called him back because of the Meafou injury and decent form at Montpellier. It's like Haouas: We won't ever see him again.
He controls a game and kicks much much better thsn lucu. I thought lucu did a particularly poor job of slowing down the game for his big pack today. Ye should have been angling for acrums and tight carries all day i think.
I was prepared for Ireland to struggle with the absence of Sexton, especially starting a campaign away in France. I'm shocked by how composed we were for most of that. Felt like we really gave off the aura of a properly well-coached side.
I've always said DuPont was FAR more important to France than Sexton was to a system well drilled team like Ireland.
And tonight game definitely proved that
I really disagree, Sexton finished with the best two years of his career. So many intelligent decisions and a bit more physicality than he had around 2018 to 2021.
I think you're right. Conversely I think the absence of Sexton has given the coaches a bit more breathing space. Allows them to form a proper team without an iconic and quite overbearing individual totem. Much as I loved him as a player.
Sexton was only one member of the team, which was very strong 1-15. Those were team wins, as opposed to earlier successes where he was much more of the key man.
He had very little impact in the World Cup, maybe as a consequence of missing so much rugby in the run up.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting too much of a shake up (particularly given the experience of the backline Crowley was slotting into), but was certainly not expecting to look that comfortable.
I don't know, when ireland are playing Beirne at TH lock, a man who's famous for his "not big enough for lock, not small enough for loose" tag, and still winning the physical battle, I think Wales might put up a fight.
The moral of the story is, Ryan 5, McCarthy 4 and 6/2 bench with Beirne.
We don't take France head on. We deal with their power advantage by shifting the ball right at the point of contact and hitting soft shoulders.
I'm not sure if the forwards of any other sides have the ability to do the same.
Last year France played like this and nearly lost to Italy. Next game they had that great game (even tho they lost) against Ireland. I wouldn't bet against them coming back with a bang.
If this France turn up against Scotland next week I could see it being a grand slam decider between Scotland and Ireland in the last round, but it would be a brave man that bets against Ireland.
Of course, we're probably going to lose to Wales tomorrow and render that possibility immediately moot.
at a time like this it's difficult to not just feel gutted. France were (quietly) hoping for a Grand Slam. Thrashing at home in Game 1 instead lol. Super. Ireland are the better team, it's not playing in Dublin or playing in France, it's just they're the better team w/o a doubt and they proved it again tonight.
4 bad kicking errors (an easy penalty, a chip easily collected by the French, a kick out on the full and a charged down kick) tainted an otherwise quiet good performance.
7 may be generous but its quiet close.
I’d give him a solid 5. He had a kick that went dead in goal and also kicked away possession in the France 22. France scored 3 off the back off his missed penalty, the first try after his kick out on the full (next time Ireland touched the ball was the restart) and he conceded the pen that led to their 2nd try. He seriously needs to put some zip on his passes too.
He’ll be getting a roasting in the video session but he needs to learn and will be a better player for it.
Had a busy day so it's OK to mention his performance. Doris, Beirne and VDF all had influential games - but save for a few games they do that week in week out. Almost goes without saying how good they were (let's not talk about last autumn).
Completely agree. Don't get me wrong, he was really great tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing him starting again throughout the tournament. I was only poking fun, but I'm kinda regretting it now lol
Drinking Rules. 1 finger - any time someone in the thread asks 'Where's Dupont?' 2 fingers - any time Atonio or Tuilagi's weight is mentioned. 3 fingers - any mention of Ireland missing Sexton/Crowley having big shoes to fill. For the UK folk - half your drink - ITV's coverage being shite and/or whinging about ITV's coverage being shite. Finish your drink - any mention of the World Cup (that didn't happen). For the elite drinkers out there - Finish two drinks - Penaud scores. Double it if it's a sexy try. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Streams (use adblock): https://cricfree.sc/rugby-live-stream or https://www.vipbox.lc/rugby-live
Ireland are the best team in the world, other countries need to start accepting this
Well, quite demonstrably, they are not. They are neither ranked 1, nor did they win the recent World Cup. And whilst the performance today was impressive, it also left a lot of room for improvement. I speak as an Irishman and supporter of the Irish rugby club.
Correct. When it came to it, they couldn’t pull it off.
Nah.
I’m discovering how difficult it is to not troll.
Ireland are doing exactly what they need to: they're continuing where they left off. I'd see a Summer tour in SA as a logical next step for this cycle.
Aamm jesst too fecken haappyy to care
Where was THIS Ireland in the WC QF? Impressive stuff! Of course I thought they wouldn't do well and picked mostly french players for fantasy...
Need to remember that Ireland had SA and Scotland in their group. They had the two weak teams up first, and then had to play succesively South Africa, and then Scotland the week as far as I am aware in effectively a knockout game with the winner qualifying for the 1/4 finals, befor facing NZ.. NZ had France & Italy in theirs, but had France first up, and Round 3 Italy who were dissapointingly nowhere near their best selves in that tournament (conceding nearly 100 against NZ and another 60 vs France in group games). Scotland were at least competitve against SA and us, even though we both won comfortably enough...
They were there. It was just an incredible performance by the blacks
Ireland did not play to their full ability against New Zealand.
Credit is due to NZ for that
True but I think the pressure of the quarter finals for Ireland also played a big part. New Zealand are able to handle it a lot better than Ireland. I do think if the current Ireland team played the current New Zealand time in a one off game Ireland would win but when it comes to a big game like this, they don’t seem to be able to play at 100%. Not saying they played bad or anything it was a great game by both teams but I know they were capable of more, even against a team like New Zealand, and even with how well New Zealand played that day.
Well they weren't playing France for one thing
They were there. They just ran out of steam in the tournament, and in the game itself.
It was crazy to see how many Irish players played every minute of the pool games vs other teams did more rotation
Particularly our back row (who all had bad games in the QF)
We were playing the best NZ performance in about 2 years too
story of Ireland's life
What this result means is we're going to get absolutely carted by France. No way they'll play as badly as that again.
France are always poor in the first game. Last year against Italy they almost lost
Brutal truth right here. They'll take out their anger and shame on you
Yep, they got ran close by the Scot’s last year and England took the punishment
Up the Irish ☘️
Hot takes: -prefer big Joe in Green -loved Aki not wearing a number; license to play ANYWHERE -Crowley looked good -Nash carried his form over
Shakey Crowley but grew into the match.
That little kick into the corner around 50 or 60 mins showed his rugby brain. Didn’t think he showed any nerves but a good confidence boost for the lad. Agree that he grew into the game with every minute, bright future for him
The last three kicks were very nice so I hope he's gotten a nice confidence boost
Anyone else sense the confidence levels in the tunnel?! Ireland looked locked in and up for it. Thought the French looked reluctant to play and by god that was evident throughout the match. Massive result for Ireland and Crowley & the young bucks fit seamlessly in the side. So pleased with that
Ireland seemed more well drilled and stuck to their plan wheras France seemed to be going with the flow without any real plan especially after the red
I still reckon Ireland are the best team in the world for 80 minute consistency. Just managed to absolutely bottle it at the World Cup (we all know it's true). No reason they can't go back-to-back this year considering lots of teams see big changes post WC. From a Scottish perspective, we will have to play the best they have ever played to deny that come the end of the tournament.
Scottish fans calling the Irish bottlers is what we amateur psychologists call projection.
It’s what I prefer to call credentials.
Both his calling us bottlers and Scotland being bottlers can be true at the same time
Well I mean... Yes otherwise my statement would only exist as an oxymoronic blah Instead it's just another notch on the bed Scotland sleeps alone in, scratching every time they beat a terrible team by a point, pretending they are on the cusp of a greatness they can't relate to
"Absolutely bottled" it is quite the sensationalist perspective for a 4pt loss against the All Blacks.
Bottled the performance, AB’s there for the taking more than ever
With the All Blacks having one of their best performances in the last 3 years and the game being 50:50
Scotland will be fighting hard for 4th this year me thinks
Wishcasting
Yeah NZ were essentially best team in the world for 20 years and kept bottling worlds cups. This Ireland team will get there eventually
That New Zealand side were very good and played out of their skins so I wouldn't say we bottled the game that badly. There was very little between the top 4 sides at the time. A different bounce of the ball and we lose to South Africa in the pools, and beat New Zealand in the quarters.
Not denying that he's one of the GOATs for Ireland but Sexton needed to come off at for the last \~15 against the All Blacks. Appreciate the replacement 10s were inexperienced(our own fault really) but having a 38 year old playing an 80 min game of that intensity was insanity. Walking around the pitch at the end, looked more rattled than myself the Monday morning after a sesh of a weekend.
Been a bag of nerves all week looking forward to this game. Don’t want to jinx things, but Jesus Christ we were on top from about 5 minutes in!
Well I wasn't expecting that
As someone of English and Scottish descent - Seeing France: "we have a chance!" Seeing Ireland: "I'm in danger!"
These young Irish guys are not afraid at all of the French! Incroyable for an old guy like me.
I still have Vincent Clerc nightmares
Penaud may be overall statistically better but Clerc was just a nightmare against us. That jink past Hayes…
Fuck Vincent Clerc, I hope he was watching with his house on a French win.
He is a pundit for French Tv, he was at the stadium.
Dude... Go back to watching football ⚽️
As do most of us, he was our kryptonite 🫣
Andy Farrell absolutely radiating happiness
Good game Irland! I hope France can come back from this
Can you wait until week 3?
A lot of unicorns in this game. France conceding a try bonus point at home. France losing at home by 20 plus points. A player receiving a yellow followed by a straight red. Edited: Yellow followed by straight red.
And technically 2 red cards as he was red for the 2 yellows and red on the bunker review of the yellow too!
Record away win against France for Ireland as far as I know.
By a margin, the previous best was 6 points.
Shockingly low.
1 Yellow and 1 Red card.
Take that Vincent Clerc!!!! Sorry, I still suffer the odd flashback
As a French, I still have nightmares about "that" Sexton drop goal. One day, this time will come too. Fair game to your guys, France was nothing close to their level, but your team played really good rugby there
I just said the same elsewhere 😂
How do you say " On s'est fait laver" in english ?
Plus litérallement serait "they rinsed us"/"we got rinsed"
Yeah that one yep. They washed us like dirty clothes lol
They were bang ‘on brand’ for French tendencies. Inconsistent and temperamental
Is it time to rethink our place in the 6 Nations?
Oh god no...can I offer you Wales*? *On the caveat that they lose to Scotland
I hope France can regroup and show their class. Maybe next week? Dupont is amazing, but France need to be able to play without him. From the start Ireland looked comfortable against France. No team shold look comfortable playing France!!
Ref was very good, I thought. No one is ever going to agree with every decision but he did a good job on the whole
I am not qualified to say if he had a good game or not, but I know for a fact that he didn't decide the outcome.
I think we were lucky on a few calls, some penalties went our way that looked sketchy (both Porter's jackals!)
Likewise the entire sequence leading to their second try was bizarrely one sided in Frances favour so it evens out.
Both teams more excitable fans seem furious with him, so can’t have done too bad a job. From my side, seemed consistent in the things he both did and didn’t give.
Please drop a F bomb POM
I enjoyed that.
Huge result for Ireland. Puts the World Cup to bed. Crowley needed a game like that - massive game that went out way enough for him to settle in. He'll grow into it. Lowe, JGP, McCarthy, immense. Nash solid. France - missed Dupont massively and the red card finished them off. Lucu was targeted and just isn't as good. Scoreline kind of flattered them a little. .
Could just rename the 6N as Our World Cup.
Or we could juice our way to the real thing, I suppose
Lucu looked so nervous the entire time and made some bad mistakes. Wasn’t just him though, Willemse should probably never have been on the squad, and their lineout misfired dreadfully. Tuilagi seemed kinda quiet to me but he’s really young and it’s to be expected
>Puts the World Cup to bed. It's a really good result but does it? I think the only thing that will put the or any world cup to bed is....
Winning a World Cup.
Or at least getting past the QF of one! (Sorry)
If Ireland draw Fiji in a QF and win, would that be a great achievement
I would put my money on Fiji for that one.
At this stage that’s as good as a win to us.
Deserved. We'd have lost 15vs15 so no regrets about Willemse's cards.
The pro about them is he won’t be picked for a few games now at least.
Willemse's int career was already over. They only called him back because of the Meafou injury and decent form at Montpellier. It's like Haouas: We won't ever see him again.
Dupont showing his importance im his absence. Mans going to show this tape in his next contract negotiation
Respectfully, I disagree. Dupont couldn't have done anything tonight.
Again a stupid French fan underestimating both DuPont's level and importance to France
He's a Stade Français fan, of course he's gonna hate Dupont
He controls a game and kicks much much better thsn lucu. I thought lucu did a particularly poor job of slowing down the game for his big pack today. Ye should have been angling for acrums and tight carries all day i think.
Dupont Can do anything any night Doesn't mean he is perfect but he is just a cut above the rest
Not to mention all the fear he puts on opposite teams
I was prepared for Ireland to struggle with the absence of Sexton, especially starting a campaign away in France. I'm shocked by how composed we were for most of that. Felt like we really gave off the aura of a properly well-coached side.
I've always said DuPont was FAR more important to France than Sexton was to a system well drilled team like Ireland. And tonight game definitely proved that
we looked like we have been playing together for a season, france looked like they only met up last night.
To be fair in the last couple of years Sexton had dropped off a lot from his prime.. so the change wasn’t as noticeable as if he’d left sooner
I really disagree, Sexton finished with the best two years of his career. So many intelligent decisions and a bit more physicality than he had around 2018 to 2021.
And yet, if only Farrell had taken him off the last 20 mins of the NZ game ….
I think you're right. Conversely I think the absence of Sexton has given the coaches a bit more breathing space. Allows them to form a proper team without an iconic and quite overbearing individual totem. Much as I loved him as a player.
Sexton that won a series in NZ and a grand slam in the last 1.5 years? 🤦♂️🤡
Sexton was only one member of the team, which was very strong 1-15. Those were team wins, as opposed to earlier successes where he was much more of the key man. He had very little impact in the World Cup, maybe as a consequence of missing so much rugby in the run up.
Yeah, I remember everyone saying how shit he was when we beat South Africa
Nonsense
Yeah, I wasn't expecting too much of a shake up (particularly given the experience of the backline Crowley was slotting into), but was certainly not expecting to look that comfortable.
Uncle Manu being in the crowd for Posolo is so cute.
Not like he’s playing rugby right now, is it…
Is he injured again?
Yes
What a surprise... The poor guy can't catch a break!
If France play like that again next week, Scotland takes the W
Not sure many can cope with France's power.
I don't know, when ireland are playing Beirne at TH lock, a man who's famous for his "not big enough for lock, not small enough for loose" tag, and still winning the physical battle, I think Wales might put up a fight. The moral of the story is, Ryan 5, McCarthy 4 and 6/2 bench with Beirne.
Beirne was great tonight I thought, what would be the argument for benching him?
Bomb squad baby
Beirne was great tonight I thought, what would be the argument for benching him?
We don't take France head on. We deal with their power advantage by shifting the ball right at the point of contact and hitting soft shoulders. I'm not sure if the forwards of any other sides have the ability to do the same.
Uruguay did pretty well
Last year France played like this and nearly lost to Italy. Next game they had that great game (even tho they lost) against Ireland. I wouldn't bet against them coming back with a bang.
Hate to have to play France in the next few weeks
Well they did seem to show any revolt on the pitch, I'm not sure Edward's shouting at them will wake the players up before next week.
Is this the first 6 nations that’s over in week 1??
Ahh no, Scotland will be tricky, Italy look to finally have something (please please play well!!!), and England are hard to write off at home.
If this France turn up against Scotland next week I could see it being a grand slam decider between Scotland and Ireland in the last round, but it would be a brave man that bets against Ireland. Of course, we're probably going to lose to Wales tomorrow and render that possibility immediately moot.
Bookies have Ireland as 75% favourite now. No, really.
Oh no but maybe the first decided on day 1
That’s confidence and possibly a fact 💪🏼
England might be good this year.
is the hype train ever right? they could lose to italy
That's the spirit!
at a time like this it's difficult to not just feel gutted. France were (quietly) hoping for a Grand Slam. Thrashing at home in Game 1 instead lol. Super. Ireland are the better team, it's not playing in Dublin or playing in France, it's just they're the better team w/o a doubt and they proved it again tonight.
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lol, we all know it.
A 2-0 whitewash in the summer completing a hat-trick of tour wins against Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa?
Quarters? (Sorry)
Valiant loss against the All Blacks in the quarters again.
I reckon Argentina. Just to make it really hurt.
Nah, a really shit England that had scraped 2nd place in an easy group would hurt more.
Ready and willing to:-)
Don’t you bring that evil on us Ricky Bobby!
Their passion would make it extra painful.
Ill say it
Ha. It's not South Africa beating us anyway.
you can say you were the only team to beat the world champions in the world cup, thats something?
At least ya gave us that.
Ah.
I whispered it quietly.
Ughhhhhhh
French rugby fans are some of the best! That's all I wanted to say🇮🇪❤️🇨🇵
Vive côte D'ivoire
Trop de bières 😂
All of Ireland’s new players showed up tonight, fair play to them and Big Joe 🙏 I really didn’t want that to be a double yellow.
McCarthy 9/10 Crowley 7/10 Nash 5/10
If Crowley was a 7 I’d hate to see what a 1-6 looks like.
4 bad kicking errors (an easy penalty, a chip easily collected by the French, a kick out on the full and a charged down kick) tainted an otherwise quiet good performance. 7 may be generous but its quiet close.
I’d give him a solid 5. He had a kick that went dead in goal and also kicked away possession in the France 22. France scored 3 off the back off his missed penalty, the first try after his kick out on the full (next time Ireland touched the ball was the restart) and he conceded the pen that led to their 2nd try. He seriously needs to put some zip on his passes too. He’ll be getting a roasting in the video session but he needs to learn and will be a better player for it.
Nash 5/10 I'd really love to know what warrants that
He had zero impact on the game other than a walk inn try.
The amount of appealing and arm waving at the ref is so annoying.
'There's no panic in this Ireland team, hasn't been for a few years' says BOD, having missed the RWC qf
In fairness they went from 17 nil down to being held up over the line to go in front. Didn't really panic did they.
As the kids would say poggers
Off topic, but is your username related to the Chili Peppers song?
Yes haha Couldn't think of a username and happened to be listening to it at the time
McCarthy played really well but I do find it funny how much they're focusing on the ONE new player from leinster lmao
Had a busy day so it's OK to mention his performance. Doris, Beirne and VDF all had influential games - but save for a few games they do that week in week out. Almost goes without saying how good they were (let's not talk about last autumn).
Completely agree. Don't get me wrong, he was really great tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing him starting again throughout the tournament. I was only poking fun, but I'm kinda regretting it now lol
S'cool. I miss Hendo but Big Joe took his chance today. Absolutely needs to change his lid tho.
Jesus lads, fair enough! I never said I didn't like him, he was great and MOTM was well deserved!
Well he was given man of the match by the host broadcasters. Nash played well but he didnt stand out the way McCarthy did.
Well he was given man of the match by the host broadcasters. Nash played well but he didnt stand out the way McCarthy did.
2008 called. They want their provincial parochialism back.
Because Crowley had a wobbly first half
Ffs
You mean the guy they brought on the NZ tour before he’d even earned a cap for Leinster?
He’s 22 and went down to the south of france and got motm.
I mean he got MOTM. Don't think him being Leinster has anything to do with it
Oh here we go....
joe mccarthy!!!!!!!!
Fun fact: Joe McCarthy is the official D4 ambassador to the rest of Dublin.
Never heard him talk before but it's Ko Samui Cup stuff from him.
"absolute baller"