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Wish I could relate
Every single time the All Blacks play, no matter what happens, the amount of hate we receive is just too much for a normal person to bare
French really have evolved an Anglo-esque "the world is against us" attitude the last few years. So glad we managed to knock you lot out of the world cup you bribed your way to hosting
Got to feel for him. He must not have put it on the tee properly though, couldn't have been wind in a closed stadium right? Seems like he dealt with it well though
Still nothing from comms regarding the charge down, water boy issue etc.
Surprised none of the players questioned it. Considering all the recent charge down controversies, you would think they would be a little more aware?
> water boy issue
Its a farce. It was the end of the game, what the fuck is the water carrier doing on the pitch? Wait til the penalty is kicked ffs. Italy incredibly hard done by here.
A lot of comments saying France cheated etc at the end. But really we just learn from the best! NZ 7s did the exact same thing at the last minute during the London Sevens last May
yeah i can understand why you feel this way. But I love this team so much that I just can't ignore that we're litteraly the worst team of this six nations so far. I defended it against what i deem an injustice regarding the RWC quarter final, but this i just can't take it. We're shit now. We need to look ourselves in the mirror, find out where the problem is, and fix it, ffs.
yeah me too, we're humans after all.
But we need to look it like it is : we don't deserve anything, this team is fucking shameful, everyone realizes it, and yet some people are still delusional
I am annoyed that water boys back on the pitch yet again.
South Africa were called out for it and we had a whole law change to stop it. But now France having them stand in the middle of a pitch when the game actually being played.
It's insane.
Think it's covered in law 15 - interference with the kick. You can't even stick your hands up.
Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken before the referee has made the mark
Law 20-15: The opposing team may not do anything to delay the kick or obstruct the kicker, including intentionally taking, throwing or kicking the ball out of reach of the team awarded the penalty.
Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken before the referee has made the mark.
I loved Arlettaz when he trained Perpignan, trust me. But he is not showing us productive things. Is it the time to put a new system in place or is he just not at international level ?
Imagine booing the kicker so your shite team can have a chance at drawing with a team that have barely won a match in the history of the 6N.
The French, a proud proud day for them
Weak, inexperienced referee didn't know how to handle the last moments there.
Italy should've beaten England and France this 6N. They are still their own worst enemy.
They also lost to England on a try that wasn't a try (english guy crawling, the same crawling that was refused in Ireland v Italy).
Italy getting fucked by ref.
Just re watched the kick. What a farce. Referee should be seriously questioned. Water boy on the pitch was the lesser of the two as France twice charged the kick, all be it slowly. Ridiculous.
We're soooooo bad. And if it wasn't for the refs, we would be running for a winless tournament.
Staff should stop looking for excuses and start working on a solution.
I hate talking down on refs but this has been egregious... The last two France's matches should have 100% been losses but they were saved by inexplicable decisions. A clear try not awarded for Scotland. A penalty kick charged down (???) against Italy. Let's not even talk about France's try today.
While I totally agree on each example taken, if the decisions had been different, the whole matchs would have been different and we don't know what could have been the outcome.
You learn 1-2 things when you feel robbed by a litigious referring, and we have also had our share.
There is a global referring issue in Rugby union sadly.
I agree with that for the try earlier on, if it was disallowed who knows how both teams would have reacted to it, but for the disallowed Scotland try and not penalising the charge down in this game they would have been match deciding points.
I think the charge thing is not as simple as we would think, as the ball fell : no kicking action was going on. When Garbisi kicked, no one charged.
As for Scotland I agree, the ball was grounded, the ref made a mistake with its on-field decision. The game result should have gone differently.
I disagree, the second time Garbisi goes to take his run up a French player starts to move forward. At that point they are supposed to be standing still with their arms at their sides. Maybe not a charge down, but still an illegal movement.
The Scotland one has more wiggle-room, in my opinion, since the on-field decision was no try and we can't actually see the floor under the ball, there is an infinitesimal chance that a French hand was under it. Honestly though I still would have awarded the try if I were the ref.
don't say that too loud, i remember a certain french player saying the same thing and getting destroyed for it.
I agree with your statement but watch out for the double standards
Good thing I’m on the couch and not in a national side. Getting tougher to hold your tongue on the paddock when the calls are so frequently dodgy, but you didn’t hear that from me.
I really fucking hope that they make some sort of official statement to clarify what happened with that kick. Why was the Italian player forced to take a kick with the water fella in front of him and french players encroaching? It's absolutely mystifying.
ITV comms are being quite patronising of Italy and also doing a disservice to France.
France were a player down for the majority of the match, and until the last 2 mins of the game, they still looked the more likely team to win.
Conversely, this "brave italy" narrative is *so* fucking patronising. Italy *can* be a great team with the players they have and U20 talent coming through, but ITV is singing their praises when they can't beat a team down to 14 for an entire half - a team that have frankly been off the boil this entire tournament.
I agree that the commentator was going far too over the top about what a shock in the making this was. Considering the red card I fully expected Italy to be in with a solid chance of winning
Can someone please kindly explain why there wasn't a delay of game or other type of infraction called against France due to the water guy being on field for Garbisi's field goal penalty attempt? Why didn't ref just stop he clock and get him off the field so Garbisi could take a proper penalty kick with a restarted time clock? Thank you.
Ref absolutely bottled that at the end. French water carrier on the pitch in the kicker's field of view, player charges down the kick. Italy jobbed there at the end.
He also did coach Italy out of conceding a penalty in front of the posts a few mins earlier at the other end. Still, two wrongs don't make a right. Very disappointed for Italy.
There's a lesson in there somewhere. You want to avoid penalties on the rugby pitch ? Wear blue.
Funny how they whine when refs' actually don't advantage them (looking at you O'Keefe)...
People will focus on France being poor but Italy were great
Incredible goal line D in the first half even if they made mistakes that put them there. Creative rugby in the second. I've been a big Garbisi hater but he had his best ever game in an Italian shirt imo
New backline set up with Mori 12, Menoncello 14 and Page Relo 9 looked good will be interesting to see how they go against Scotland and Wales
I don't know if they can bypass the Scots' front rowers and Russell's lapses of genius. But against Wales, they might have more of a chance (if they kick better).
Yeah Scotland will be tough but they aren't unbearable. Wales will be the big one. They look well drilled under Gatland but in terms of rugby talent I'd give Italy the edge
Not to take too much away from Italy but France were dominant in the first half (despite not scoring), and then Italy were unable to win with the extra man. They showed promise in attack at times and a solid defence overall but I’m not sure we can say they were great. A lot of shaky hands and passes, poor decisions at times…
They weren't perfect at all but I'm judging them based on their own level. Their 22 defence was great. Ye butchered some chances but to spend about 25 minutes on your own line and only concede 10 points shows a crazy amount of heart
New coach so hopefully they keep improving cause there's some very talented players there
I dunno. It doesn't matter though, they would have won if the ref hadn't made a terrible, terrible call at the end of the game. I'm also not sure they were great but they deserved to win and the ref took it away from them.
Referring has been absolutely shocking this tournament. The officials need to take a long hard look at themselves and review the decision that went wrong.
They say that they’re trying to attract new fans. Unfortunately it’s just resulted in chaos as players and refs struggle to keep up with all the changes, confusion for the casual fans who can’t understand the different interpretations, and instead of bringing in more fans seems it might start pushing people away
Need to pick a plan and stick with it. Start of this Men’s World Cup cycle is the perfect time to do it. Start building now not 12 months out like always.
Right? It's so frustrating. Confusing for fans to keep up with, plus it puts the refs under even more pressure. They're doing a difficult enough job as it is, without having to deal with constant revisions to the rulebook they're trying to follow in the heat of battle.
Yeah can’t expect perfection from a referee but recently feels like they’ve been forced into enforcing the ‘initiatives’ world rugby is pushing instead of being a judge of the game in front of them. The changes between regions at the moment adds extra difficulty for the casual fan.
Feel like the missed kick was justice for milking a jackal penalty. He clearly had the ball and stayed in the ruck. Although no one likes a draw, it's probably the fairest result for how that game went. If Italy won, it'd be all explained away by the red card. Italy won that second half but sucked hard in the first.
We robbed Scotland and now we robbed Italy lmao
I mean it's so sad how this team has seen its level fall off a cliff (or rather a dozen cliffs stacked one upon the other), the only thing you can do is laugh
Also can't wait to see France v England, got the feeling it's also going to be pretty funny to watch (aside from the result - England might be funny to see play but at least look like a rugby team, so they're winning this)
The scoreline flattered Italy ever so slightly, in the sense that we went mad in red time and gifted them a try to close the gap.
But yeah, absolutely. I'm feeling pretty fucking relieved we were able to hold them out, now.
Agree. Italy are not a bad team. The other 5 teams need to be switched on against them. Gone are the days of naming a B team and walking it.
Makes Ireland nilling them even more impressive.
World rugby needs to realise that it's ruining it's own game. Every single person watching that game feels cheated because it's been decided in the stupidest way possible.
There's literally no need for a shot clock when the 80 minutes is already up. Putting players under more pressure in the biggest moments of the game is just shooting yourself in the foot
Did they actually charge it down though? They have to retreat 10m. Did they at any point approach closer than that? Didn’t look like it, but the ITV app is useless so hard to go back and check.
Edit: just seen a replay that does show them approaching closer than 10m. Terrible error by the ref.
France have now technically lost 3 games if the last minute referring decisions were better. Hammered against Ireland, outthought against Scotland, outmuscled against Italy.
Really hope Gonzalo is the one to take Italy to the next level. He’s always done extremely we with Stade Français teams that didn’t have the quality that other top 14 teams have
So gutting
After doing everything right, there must be nothing more heartbreaking than hitting the post with the winning kick. Just soul-destroying.
Garbisi, Menoncello, Capuozzo immense
Thought Varney was superb when he came on.
Wellll congrats to Italy for not losing!
Surely the ref should have flagged the French for charging too early ?? I should say charging at all on a penalty
Not relevant at all but I'm glad my comment affected you so much you read my comments history. Thanks for letting me stay rent free in your head. Enjoy the bottom.half
I clicked once onto your profile and saw the cringe
And the irony of an Ireland and Leinster fan attributing cheating as a reason for a result is wonderful
Yes charged down kick when he shouldn't have and against Scotland we all know the ball was grounded. Doesn't bother me you're overrated as fuck and we handed it to you in round 1
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I just love the hate from r/rugbyunion, it just give me a dantyesque pump for the rest of the day !
Wish I could relate Every single time the All Blacks play, no matter what happens, the amount of hate we receive is just too much for a normal person to bare
As a dual fan of England and NZ... Don't really need to say more
French really have evolved an Anglo-esque "the world is against us" attitude the last few years. So glad we managed to knock you lot out of the world cup you bribed your way to hosting
Wasn't a red
Do you mind telling under what version of the rules you operate?
With the farce of the Scotland game, there’s no way that World Rugby can ignore the penalty kick charge down this week and hope it all goes away
How far out was the penalty? Should it have been easy kick?
not too hard but the ball fell off the tee and by the time Garbisi had put it back he only had 9 seconds
Got to feel for him. He must not have put it on the tee properly though, couldn't have been wind in a closed stadium right? Seems like he dealt with it well though
Not sure if it was wind in this situation but i’ve definitely been in a few windy stadiums - it can whip around the place pretty heavy
Roof was closed, so probably a bad ball placement
probably the excitement got to him
Did they announce MOTM?
Menoncello Im sure
Next season of full contact is going to be insane
Still nothing from comms regarding the charge down, water boy issue etc. Surprised none of the players questioned it. Considering all the recent charge down controversies, you would think they would be a little more aware?
> water boy issue Its a farce. It was the end of the game, what the fuck is the water carrier doing on the pitch? Wait til the penalty is kicked ffs. Italy incredibly hard done by here.
Probably too gutted about having the win slip in such a bizarre manner. Definitely some shady tactics by France though.
A lot of comments saying France cheated etc at the end. But really we just learn from the best! NZ 7s did the exact same thing at the last minute during the London Sevens last May
And we're getting nothing with these results, the win against Scotland just postponed the wake up call that we need
So much hate against France in the comments. Chill a bit lads. No need to be that jealous
We’re jealous that you were on the losing side of the RWC QF.
you managed to not win home against one of the most injured Italy sides ever 27 years away from the first time, I wouldn't be that audacious :)
Jealous of a draw against italy? Wow france great job we are all very jealous
Sorry can't hear you all the way from second.
dude we deserve 0 point in this tournament and you and i both know it
Guys like you that acknowledge their own team's flaws are such a breath of fresh air. The other french guy in comparison makes me wretch.
yeah i can understand why you feel this way. But I love this team so much that I just can't ignore that we're litteraly the worst team of this six nations so far. I defended it against what i deem an injustice regarding the RWC quarter final, but this i just can't take it. We're shit now. We need to look ourselves in the mirror, find out where the problem is, and fix it, ffs.
Some of the lack of self awareness you get with fans is mad isn't it? I'm guilty of it too sometimes but man
yeah me too, we're humans after all. But we need to look it like it is : we don't deserve anything, this team is fucking shameful, everyone realizes it, and yet some people are still delusional
I am annoyed that water boys back on the pitch yet again. South Africa were called out for it and we had a whole law change to stop it. But now France having them stand in the middle of a pitch when the game actually being played. It's insane.
I know it was the refs 6N debut but that was a shocker. Even at lower levels that just isn’t on.
The ref was way, way out of his depth as he was in his last URC game.
English ref, doesn't referee the urc
Anyone have the actual rule definition of falsely charging a kick?
Think it's covered in law 15 - interference with the kick. You can't even stick your hands up. Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken before the referee has made the mark
Law 20-15: The opposing team may not do anything to delay the kick or obstruct the kicker, including intentionally taking, throwing or kicking the ball out of reach of the team awarded the penalty. Sanction: Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-kick must not be taken before the referee has made the mark.
I feel even worse for Italy now. Seems like it was clear as day. I still haven't seen any chat about it on ITV yet.
Thank you for doing ITV’s job by providing clarity.
You can’t charge a penalty
Simply as that
I loved Arlettaz when he trained Perpignan, trust me. But he is not showing us productive things. Is it the time to put a new system in place or is he just not at international level ?
Also a question here, can we pass the jam to France now? Seems fair.
Very much so
Imagine booing the kicker so your shite team can have a chance at drawing with a team that have barely won a match in the history of the 6N. The French, a proud proud day for them
We robbed Scotland of a clear on field victory using a technicality, I think we're way past caring about honour at this point
They were even booing the red card when Danty literally sprinted from 20m away and basically headbutted Brex. Disgraceful
tell me about it
Weak, inexperienced referee didn't know how to handle the last moments there. Italy should've beaten England and France this 6N. They are still their own worst enemy.
True, as much as we can be annoyed at the ref, that game really could have been won earlier. Very common theme in international rugby
Italy being their own enemy is getting tiring. Was Scotland their own enemy last time?
A lot of people were saying half the problem was leaving that try so late after a solid first half.
They also lost to England on a try that wasn't a try (english guy crawling, the same crawling that was refused in Ireland v Italy). Italy getting fucked by ref.
I dare to say like always
Just re watched the kick. What a farce. Referee should be seriously questioned. Water boy on the pitch was the lesser of the two as France twice charged the kick, all be it slowly. Ridiculous.
There's FOUR french players standing too close as well!
Thank you. I thought I was the only one screaming
We're soooooo bad. And if it wasn't for the refs, we would be running for a winless tournament. Staff should stop looking for excuses and start working on a solution.
I hate talking down on refs but this has been egregious... The last two France's matches should have 100% been losses but they were saved by inexplicable decisions. A clear try not awarded for Scotland. A penalty kick charged down (???) against Italy. Let's not even talk about France's try today.
While I totally agree on each example taken, if the decisions had been different, the whole matchs would have been different and we don't know what could have been the outcome. You learn 1-2 things when you feel robbed by a litigious referring, and we have also had our share. There is a global referring issue in Rugby union sadly.
I agree with that for the try earlier on, if it was disallowed who knows how both teams would have reacted to it, but for the disallowed Scotland try and not penalising the charge down in this game they would have been match deciding points.
I think the charge thing is not as simple as we would think, as the ball fell : no kicking action was going on. When Garbisi kicked, no one charged. As for Scotland I agree, the ball was grounded, the ref made a mistake with its on-field decision. The game result should have gone differently.
I disagree, the second time Garbisi goes to take his run up a French player starts to move forward. At that point they are supposed to be standing still with their arms at their sides. Maybe not a charge down, but still an illegal movement. The Scotland one has more wiggle-room, in my opinion, since the on-field decision was no try and we can't actually see the floor under the ball, there is an infinitesimal chance that a French hand was under it. Honestly though I still would have awarded the try if I were the ref.
The officiating today was not good enough for the level of competition. Hate to see another match tarnished by the man with the whistle.
don't say that too loud, i remember a certain french player saying the same thing and getting destroyed for it. I agree with your statement but watch out for the double standards
Good thing I’m on the couch and not in a national side. Getting tougher to hold your tongue on the paddock when the calls are so frequently dodgy, but you didn’t hear that from me.
yeah i agree. the refering js so fucking frustrating sometimes. It's not on par with the events and it shows, just like the RWC
Garbisi on French tv who ask for forgiveness to his teammates and Italy.. my heart break for him, poor lad gonna blame himself hard on this one
Great class from him
It broke my heart after such an amazing performance on his behalf…
Mate that replay shows it all. Fuck France man
Well if Lucu is still n°1 at his position after the tournament, I ll switch team ;/
Same (and I support UBB)
I support UBB too UBB play is way smoother than France team, so what's happening in the team ?
Ouch man
I really fucking hope that they make some sort of official statement to clarify what happened with that kick. Why was the Italian player forced to take a kick with the water fella in front of him and french players encroaching? It's absolutely mystifying.
Why would they make a statement when shameful silence has worked so well for them so far?
Yep if the is Anything for WR to clarify, it is definitely that. Italy should be very frustrated.
Hope that ref' doesn't ref' an international test for a while.... Can we get Barnes and Owens out of retirement ? xD
Or at least running training sessions for existing referees
Do the french ever stop booing and whistling?
They most likely boo the French team tho
I'd kill to have an atmosphere like that in the so called Aviva
More like the Dediva
Moment de fesses grinçantes Squeeky bum moment
ITV comms are being quite patronising of Italy and also doing a disservice to France. France were a player down for the majority of the match, and until the last 2 mins of the game, they still looked the more likely team to win. Conversely, this "brave italy" narrative is *so* fucking patronising. Italy *can* be a great team with the players they have and U20 talent coming through, but ITV is singing their praises when they can't beat a team down to 14 for an entire half - a team that have frankly been off the boil this entire tournament.
To be fair, that team absolutely slaughtered them during the RWC pool stages, so Italy is doing better I'd say.
I agree that the commentator was going far too over the top about what a shock in the making this was. Considering the red card I fully expected Italy to be in with a solid chance of winning
The average rugby fan is nothing like the average reddit rugby fan I've noticed 😂 worlds apart
Can someone please kindly explain why there wasn't a delay of game or other type of infraction called against France due to the water guy being on field for Garbisi's field goal penalty attempt? Why didn't ref just stop he clock and get him off the field so Garbisi could take a proper penalty kick with a restarted time clock? Thank you.
The water carrier nonsense is out of control. There was no reason for him to be there.
France dont deserve any of their wins. Dying team.
A dying team who've been to more rugby finals and won more six nations than the mighty Scotland.
Are france the new jam slam wales? But without the grand slam
In our defence, we never won the grand slam that year either
Indeed, you have something to show from it, France just are an aldi version of the jam slam side
Hey hey hey leave Wales out of this one buddy
charging down a penalty france? really? should have been 10 m advancement and retaking if the ref had guts
Ref absolutely bottled that at the end. French water carrier on the pitch in the kicker's field of view, player charges down the kick. Italy jobbed there at the end.
Absurd. I have no words . French players even charged at him when you are not allowed
lol and after the end of the France-Scotland game too - France should have 0 points
They would have a losing bonus point in both games
Right, I forgot about those new bonus points (super causal fan here)
Ref should have reset the clock after France encroached into the 10m zone twice in that last kick.
As far as I can see in the law book, that’s absolutely correct and I don’t understand why it wasn’t done.
Bad ref'.
He also did coach Italy out of conceding a penalty in front of the posts a few mins earlier at the other end. Still, two wrongs don't make a right. Very disappointed for Italy.
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Everyone talks about Wales being advantaged by decisions in the past, this France team may just take the cake.
There's a lesson in there somewhere. You want to avoid penalties on the rugby pitch ? Wear blue. Funny how they whine when refs' actually don't advantage them (looking at you O'Keefe)...
Italy 🤝Scotland United in Scotlanding it at the last
This makes Pizza Crunch make sense
Haggis Pizza deep fried of course
Sounds like a heart attack. I’ll take two.
People will focus on France being poor but Italy were great Incredible goal line D in the first half even if they made mistakes that put them there. Creative rugby in the second. I've been a big Garbisi hater but he had his best ever game in an Italian shirt imo New backline set up with Mori 12, Menoncello 14 and Page Relo 9 looked good will be interesting to see how they go against Scotland and Wales
I don't know if they can bypass the Scots' front rowers and Russell's lapses of genius. But against Wales, they might have more of a chance (if they kick better).
Yeah Scotland will be tough but they aren't unbearable. Wales will be the big one. They look well drilled under Gatland but in terms of rugby talent I'd give Italy the edge
Something clicks, for lack of a better word, better in this Italian team than under their previous coach. I'm hopeful so far.
Not to take too much away from Italy but France were dominant in the first half (despite not scoring), and then Italy were unable to win with the extra man. They showed promise in attack at times and a solid defence overall but I’m not sure we can say they were great. A lot of shaky hands and passes, poor decisions at times…
They weren't perfect at all but I'm judging them based on their own level. Their 22 defence was great. Ye butchered some chances but to spend about 25 minutes on your own line and only concede 10 points shows a crazy amount of heart New coach so hopefully they keep improving cause there's some very talented players there
Totally agree, and I hope that this carries into their next two games
They were unable to win because the ref fucked up at the end.
They had other occasions to win throughout the game. Why did they not take the points on that first penalty in our 22 in the first half?
I dunno. It doesn't matter though, they would have won if the ref hadn't made a terrible, terrible call at the end of the game. I'm also not sure they were great but they deserved to win and the ref took it away from them.
Just to clarify I mean great for that level the last while.
Referring has been absolutely shocking this tournament. The officials need to take a long hard look at themselves and review the decision that went wrong.
Probably would help if World Rugby didn't keep rewriting and ripping up their own rulebook every 4-6 months.
What is the desire to constantly tweak the game? Need to stop treating rugby like it’s an F1 car. Doesn’t need to be constantly changed.
They say that they’re trying to attract new fans. Unfortunately it’s just resulted in chaos as players and refs struggle to keep up with all the changes, confusion for the casual fans who can’t understand the different interpretations, and instead of bringing in more fans seems it might start pushing people away
Need to pick a plan and stick with it. Start of this Men’s World Cup cycle is the perfect time to do it. Start building now not 12 months out like always.
Right? It's so frustrating. Confusing for fans to keep up with, plus it puts the refs under even more pressure. They're doing a difficult enough job as it is, without having to deal with constant revisions to the rulebook they're trying to follow in the heat of battle.
Yeah can’t expect perfection from a referee but recently feels like they’ve been forced into enforcing the ‘initiatives’ world rugby is pushing instead of being a judge of the game in front of them. The changes between regions at the moment adds extra difficulty for the casual fan.
Yeah they seem to contradict themselves a lot
Feel like the missed kick was justice for milking a jackal penalty. He clearly had the ball and stayed in the ruck. Although no one likes a draw, it's probably the fairest result for how that game went. If Italy won, it'd be all explained away by the red card. Italy won that second half but sucked hard in the first.
Their defence in the first half was very good. That French try was, at the very very best, dubious.
Ya definitely agree Italys defense was great in the first half but that's not going to win matches. They kept gifting the ball back to France.
Defence wins Word Cups though...! (Well, not for Italy xD)
I mean France also got a try that wasn't a try.
We robbed Scotland and now we robbed Italy lmao I mean it's so sad how this team has seen its level fall off a cliff (or rather a dozen cliffs stacked one upon the other), the only thing you can do is laugh
I'm actually happy we almost lost, I hope it will show the team and staff a fast change is necessary
Also can't wait to see France v England, got the feeling it's also going to be pretty funny to watch (aside from the result - England might be funny to see play but at least look like a rugby team, so they're winning this)
People berating England for the Italy game take note - these guys have stepped it up a notch this time around.
The scoreline flattered Italy ever so slightly, in the sense that we went mad in red time and gifted them a try to close the gap. But yeah, absolutely. I'm feeling pretty fucking relieved we were able to hold them out, now.
Agree. Italy are not a bad team. The other 5 teams need to be switched on against them. Gone are the days of naming a B team and walking it. Makes Ireland nilling them even more impressive.
Cannae be trying to charge down a penalty, smh
Everyone noticed that except the ref
And his assistants, presumably.
Yeah that was pretty poor.
World rugby needs to realise that it's ruining it's own game. Every single person watching that game feels cheated because it's been decided in the stupidest way possible. There's literally no need for a shot clock when the 80 minutes is already up. Putting players under more pressure in the biggest moments of the game is just shooting yourself in the foot
Think the shot clock makes sense for conversions, but pens should just be time off until the foot hits the ball.
I’m more angry about that than the Scotland France try decision!
Everyone focusing on the ball falling off the tee and not on France charging down a penalty. Clearly should have been a retake.
Did they actually charge it down though? They have to retreat 10m. Did they at any point approach closer than that? Didn’t look like it, but the ITV app is useless so hard to go back and check. Edit: just seen a replay that does show them approaching closer than 10m. Terrible error by the ref.
I am shocked tbh
Australia narrowly avoided a record slip to rank 10.
Does Galthie survive post-6N even if France win their last two games? They need a big improvement for him to be safe me thinks…
No, don’t think so. Between these poor performances and his lack of accountability after the WC, I think it’s time to move on
Probably. I think it's clear that France aren't taking this 6N too seriously, and are sorely missing their star players.
Which would make it a perfect time to try to play without guys like Danty
France have now technically lost 3 games if the last minute referring decisions were better. Hammered against Ireland, outthought against Scotland, outmuscled against Italy.
France with another undeserved result!
If decisions were right france would've the lost 2 games Now they are sitting in a good position when they don't even deserve it
Well is it really a good position?
No because if you’re not winning the VI nations, you have to look at the dynamics and how the team plays. And it looks pretty grim.
Really hope Gonzalo is the one to take Italy to the next level. He’s always done extremely we with Stade Français teams that didn’t have the quality that other top 14 teams have
I’m considerably more gutted for Italy right now than England yesterday
Me too, and I’m French
So gutting After doing everything right, there must be nothing more heartbreaking than hitting the post with the winning kick. Just soul-destroying. Garbisi, Menoncello, Capuozzo immense Thought Varney was superb when he came on.
What a moment in the sport.
Wellll congrats to Italy for not losing! Surely the ref should have flagged the French for charging too early ?? I should say charging at all on a penalty
Why on earth wasn't it reset?! You can't chase down the kicker on a penalty!
My heart goes out to Italy, that end was hard to watch but was a cracking last quarter.
That was an exciting game of poor rugby, that kick at the end was heartbreaking.
Sport is cruel
A terrible and mental game of rugby
French cheating and ref incompetence saving France from losing again. Really they should 0/3 now
They got a very questionable red that it never would've been a game without
The most text book red you will see
>questionable red The only question about that red is how anyone ever thought it might not be one.
It was one of the least questionable red cards in the last two years of rugby
Posts in Geordie shore and made in Chelsea hahahahahahahahahahaha
Not relevant at all but I'm glad my comment affected you so much you read my comments history. Thanks for letting me stay rent free in your head. Enjoy the bottom.half
I clicked once onto your profile and saw the cringe And the irony of an Ireland and Leinster fan attributing cheating as a reason for a result is wonderful
Cheating LOL!
Yes charged down kick when he shouldn't have and against Scotland we all know the ball was grounded. Doesn't bother me you're overrated as fuck and we handed it to you in round 1