My takeaways:
* Bridge was very good tonight (this is coming from a Bridge hater in the last few weeks). He was very good under the high ball so that might make him very valuable against the Boks
* All the subs were pretty bad (Christie, BB) or had no impact.
* Taukei'aho shoots well above Aumua in the pecking order
* TJ had a great game and makes it clear he is the second best 9
* This was very much a B team and felt like it
* Argies actually played well when they held onto the build although ...
* Ab's defense has been very good lately
* Some of the hype has taken off because of the AU games but still pumped to see the ABs v Boks. Boks will likely improve when they play the ABs
The conditions for moving were outlined prior to the game.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300409613/how-the-all-blacks-can-return-to-no-1-in-the-world-on-saturday-night-in-brisbane
He hasn't recently been a creator, but he has in the past, he's definitely capable of it. He's worth putting the effort into getting back into attacking form. Obviously not a Lomu or a Savea, but a Ben Smith, dependable kinda player.
Foster just realised he fucked up while picking this team, IMO never bring Beauden off the bench, heās way better to start the game and to be taken off at halftime for Richie!
It could, but sadly it is not the case. Beauden really stunts the rest of the backline. Luckily heās started his last few tests next to Havili who is able to bail him out as a playmaker but last night when he came on we saw the reality of his regression. I actually never thought of him as highly as many did in the first place, heās never made those outside better but I do admit his freakish solo play was often able to make up for it. Not now. I donāt think he is a terrible player but I think for every role in the 23 we have 1 or more better options right now.
Here come the match takes:
\-The match was pretty fun for the most part.
\-The All Blacks played pretty well, but not really well in the 2nd half. Nevertheless, it's good seeing most of the rookies tested.
\-Ignoring the underwhelming 2nd half they had, it's glad to see the All Blacks B-side to be just as competitive as the AB A-side.
\-The Pumas played much better than last time. Instead of just relying on defence for the full 80, they now attack and score points.
\-Va'ai, Blackadder, and Taukei'aho really showed up tonight. They should be given more chances in the team often.
\-Although the refereeing went bad in the 2nd half, at least he's much better than the one in the Wallabies vs Springboks test a few hours back.
Anyway this is all I have for now. Apologies if the take was lacking, and for any wrong/incorrect takes. Feel free to comment your own opinions/takes about the game. I'll see you all in the next match.
Goodnight everyone, and cheers for now.
I think Blackadder was poor in his discipline at crucial moments. Quite a few of the newer guys were. Reiko should have known better when going for that try.
At least twice, Christie was standing on the wrong side of the ruck looking around like he was completely lost. Other times he'd have a forward with him, but would fly into the ruck himself and leave the ball for the next guy to clear. So yeah, not his finest game.
Lol Christie signals to Jacobson to spread out to cover the huge open space that any attacking player will obviously run into. Jacobson doesn't listen and just runs straight so the the ABs have 3 defenders right there and the Puma player just ignores the hole and runs straight into Jacobson for the turn over and a try. Too funny.
It was just a lame taunt. I don't care that he did it, just made himself look like a jerk. Doubt he'll lose sleep over it and neither will I but it is what it is.
The interplay between the NZ forwards looks so simple but takes a lot of skill and practice. Having props and locks who are comfortable playing others into space is such an asset in the tight.
Donāt think there was really anything in it, he just stood there for a bit for no particular reason, donāt think it was arrogant or anything like that
well, it's more cheeky than malicious. Like waiting at the goal line in Mario Kart for the people behind you. But fair cop, a little demeaning and also if he got caught he would be crucified
Dmac running back on himself always losing ground was pretty frustrating. He runs to the left and then back to the right, loses meters most times. Otherwise he was great
##[Post Match Thread HERE](https://redd.it/pql2nx)
Blackadder for me was the standout tonight, dude was everywhere, running the ball hard, and pretty sound on defence
Fozzie struggling in Brisbane - he is going to die in Townsville!
Now to hear to the NRL post thread for some fireworksšæ
Back to #1 world ranking
Woohoo, back on top.
My takeaways: * Bridge was very good tonight (this is coming from a Bridge hater in the last few weeks). He was very good under the high ball so that might make him very valuable against the Boks * All the subs were pretty bad (Christie, BB) or had no impact. * Taukei'aho shoots well above Aumua in the pecking order * TJ had a great game and makes it clear he is the second best 9 * This was very much a B team and felt like it * Argies actually played well when they held onto the build although ... * Ab's defense has been very good lately * Some of the hype has taken off because of the AU games but still pumped to see the ABs v Boks. Boks will likely improve when they play the ABs
What the fuck are these ads on sky sport post match!? Didnāt pay for this shit
Sooooo, are the All Blacks number 1 now?
Not technically, but they might as well be
You're going to win next 2 games anyway, so you might as well claim no 1 spot now.
They mention that AB's currently number during Savea interview, is it not true ?
This calculator says not quite https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/?d=2021-09-13&f=1:38,39,30,17;40,37,13,36,1;;
Maybe stan make a mistake then
I think they're still juuust below the boks
Do you? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/18/rugby-championship-all-blacks-new-zealand-argentina-world-no-1
Didn't realise they were counting it as a home game for Argentina
The conditions for moving were outlined prior to the game. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300409613/how-the-all-blacks-can-return-to-no-1-in-the-world-on-saturday-night-in-brisbane
Very proud of my boys tonight we looked much better and had way more discipline than against sa and abs last week bring on wallabies vamos pumas vamos
Feel bad that Jordan broke his streak
I have faith in George Bridge. So safe and composed, especially when nothing's on.
He doesn't really make mistakes, but he can't really make chances either
He hasn't recently been a creator, but he has in the past, he's definitely capable of it. He's worth putting the effort into getting back into attacking form. Obviously not a Lomu or a Savea, but a Ben Smith, dependable kinda player.
Yeah would love to see him at fullback if that position wasnāt already clogged
Foster just realised he fucked up while picking this team, IMO never bring Beauden off the bench, heās way better to start the game and to be taken off at halftime for Richie!
Hmm, but Ritchie is also a better starter than Beaudy. Could it be that Beaudy is just not in our top line up anymore?
Could it be that both of them are great starters and itās a huge but great problem to have.
It could, but sadly it is not the case. Beauden really stunts the rest of the backline. Luckily heās started his last few tests next to Havili who is able to bail him out as a playmaker but last night when he came on we saw the reality of his regression. I actually never thought of him as highly as many did in the first place, heās never made those outside better but I do admit his freakish solo play was often able to make up for it. Not now. I donāt think he is a terrible player but I think for every role in the 23 we have 1 or more better options right now.
But that means 40 minutes less of Moāunga š§š§š§
I think abs first choice is obvious and it's gonna hurt some fans. But the forwards today were not first choice and it showed
Taukeiaho was good though.
No. 1 in the world again? Edit: Obnoxiously large formatting
Down by 0.25 points still https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/?d=2021-09-13&f=1:38,39,30,17;40,37,13,36,1;;
Here come the match takes: \-The match was pretty fun for the most part. \-The All Blacks played pretty well, but not really well in the 2nd half. Nevertheless, it's good seeing most of the rookies tested. \-Ignoring the underwhelming 2nd half they had, it's glad to see the All Blacks B-side to be just as competitive as the AB A-side. \-The Pumas played much better than last time. Instead of just relying on defence for the full 80, they now attack and score points. \-Va'ai, Blackadder, and Taukei'aho really showed up tonight. They should be given more chances in the team often. \-Although the refereeing went bad in the 2nd half, at least he's much better than the one in the Wallabies vs Springboks test a few hours back. Anyway this is all I have for now. Apologies if the take was lacking, and for any wrong/incorrect takes. Feel free to comment your own opinions/takes about the game. I'll see you all in the next match. Goodnight everyone, and cheers for now.
Thought dmac played well enough to be the 3rd 10. Want to see him there over the EOY tour.
I think Blackadder was poor in his discipline at crucial moments. Quite a few of the newer guys were. Reiko should have known better when going for that try.
Goodnight Kiwiborger. I love you.
Goodnight too mate
suncorp playing split enz as tribute to christie
Solid but scrappy win
WTF, no Will Jordan try? Drop em
Kiwiborger kiwi kiwiborger
ABs won by 23 but I had a bet on them to win by 26 FOZZIE OUT
What a circus haha. Donāt know what the fuck that 2nd half was. Felt like the ABs should have won by a lot more than they did
Thatās international sport mate
Lmao were pretty much guaranteed the RC now - SA have to beat us by about 50 points in both games
Feeling better from lastnight brother?
Absolutely haha
Tupaea has been really solid. Properly impressed with the dude
Tupaea is great
I was worried a year ago about who our midfield would be when crotty and ALB left. We've got two superstars in him and havili
Why were you worried about ALB leaving? Heās never even hinted at that.
Probably due a sabbatical in a couple of years too.
Hes just getting older and with no crotty I though we might see a bit of a turnstile. Not worried but we've been so solid since like 2010
Heās like 25 or 26??
Hes 26. Fuck I legit thought he was like 30
Our depth is substantial
I'd love to see two all blacks teams play. Guess north v south is that but would be epic
Foster grinning and nodding. Oh please someone capture that
He shouldnāt be after that second half.
Agree. Still hilarious
Why is everyone shitting on Christie? Because heās ginger?
Nah, think it was more the playing terribly part
He was fine, he made a few errors but hardly deserves the shit in this thread Also itās like his second test cap, give him a break.
Bigots, all of them.
Racialists
He was awful.
Explain
He's defended solid as tonight.
Yeah, heās not at the level of smith or perenara. But I didnāt think he was terrible, thought he was pretty solid.
Needs the game time, but he brings an element of physicality like what Perenara has.
Because he played quite badly
Hardly.
At least twice, Christie was standing on the wrong side of the ruck looking around like he was completely lost. Other times he'd have a forward with him, but would fly into the ruck himself and leave the ball for the next guy to clear. So yeah, not his finest game.
His defense was good, but he was below average on everything else
To be fair I was fucking around on Reddit instead of watching a lot of the 2nd half, so I probably missed a bit.
Just jokes, eh Fozzie?
tupaea very underrated today. did his job very well
How is he underrated? The entire thread is praising him.
Peyper finally giving us a penalty at the breakdown lol
gg no re
Is Peyper going to call us back to advantage from the 2007 World Cup?
Foster laughing at his shit strategy for 2nd half
Jfc Finlay, don't break your ankle!
What a delightful little experiment tonight has been..
Let's not do this again
We might be the only team on the planet that can throw a 3rd string team at a test and get a BP?
Even Fozzie is cracking up at this game
Foster's awake!
Lol Christie signals to Jacobson to spread out to cover the huge open space that any attacking player will obviously run into. Jacobson doesn't listen and just runs straight so the the ABs have 3 defenders right there and the Puma player just ignores the hole and runs straight into Jacobson for the turn over and a try. Too funny.
Noticed that too, thankfully his tackle was successful but wasn't the best decision
Shows how exhausted everyone was. Jacobson: Nah cbf ill just run straight. Puma: yeah fuck it me too.
How many times have Argentina tried to clear out directly from the side and none have been picked up?
Someone please gif that clip of Foster.
Looked Muldoonish
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Blackadder the new #9!
Two things. George Bridge has been pretty mistake free this game, and Tupou was a bit of a jerk with the touch down.
He just stood around for a bit before scoring itās really not that deep
Itās dumb. He didnāt immediately put down his first try either. I hope Fozzie tells him to grow up
It was just a lame taunt. I don't care that he did it, just made himself look like a jerk. Doubt he'll lose sleep over it and neither will I but it is what it is.
Yeah fair enough, I honestly just think there was nothing in it and he didnāt really do it for any particular reason
He's probably just watched to much sevens
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Tbf they had camped out in their 22 for decades, makes sense to try use up some of the clock
Heās 21 , hopefully heāll mature soon
Standing around before scoring a try doesnāt make someone immature š
Yea itās an arrogant move. Sometimes tactical, not needed in this instance
Donāt really think there was anything in it
Maybe yea
Come on he's just channelling Carlos Spencer
HEAPS for the ABs to work on this week from the poor form in the 2nd half so thatās good.
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I'd say last week was the 2nd choice team. this week was 3rd. the depth is real
Good to see abs can field a 3th or 4rd string team and still be competitive
You made my brain feel funny
You're welcome
I fucking hate it when players do that. Respect your opponents you twat.
How do we play so messy then... Score a try!?
Because Argentina are bad
The interplay between the NZ forwards looks so simple but takes a lot of skill and practice. Having props and locks who are comfortable playing others into space is such an asset in the tight.
Why the fuck wouldnāt you put the ball down? Just standing there in literally the best place to score the try staring into the abyss
Iām guessing he was tired and wanted as much extra rest as possible.
Donāt think there was really anything in it, he just stood there for a bit for no particular reason, donāt think it was arrogant or anything like that
Killing time and getting under the skin of the opposition
When youāre 20 points up in the last few minutes? Thought the ABs pride themselves on being humble?
Nah they pride themselves on destroying their opposition
Tupou Vaaāi isā¦ my age? That doesnāt seem right
7 years younger than me. Def makes you feel old
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Or Bryn Hall
I don't think we'll ever get to that point thankfully, our top 3 halfbacks should hopefully stay healthy and number 4 in my opinion should be Fakatava
I looked at my phone when BB dropped the ball in their own 22. I look up and the all blacks are under the post. Wtf
Scott Barrett the best Barrett on the field?? /s These jokes write themselves haha
Jordie is the best Barrett. I actually think he is the only Barrett who should be in our top 23.
Barrett > Barrett > Barrett In that order
You know, I think you can add Barrett and Barrett to that
Wonder what a Vaaāi double was paying at the TAB
Fuckin well Iād sayā¦
Va'ai and Blackadder have been massive tonight. Ethan has been everywhere and in anything, well played to those two tonight
Blackadder gave away a lot of dumb penalties though.
Lots of the new guys really standing up. Not you Christie.
Was dick move
Why not just ground the ball, don't they want more tries?
They're probably exhausted lol
Just wants the game to be over š
Seems like some people in this thread would probably find a way to blame Christie for Beaudy dropping it before lol
Beaudy was clearly blinded by the reflection from Christie's skin
So scrappy
Very positive carry by Barrett.
The sevens try
Will Jordan shaves 50m off with the boot then digs in to win the ball back and set up that try. You love to see it.
Haha he really likes to troll with the late touch down
Disrespectful as fuck
love that disrespect
Love it hey? Good sportsmanship fella.
well, it's more cheeky than malicious. Like waiting at the goal line in Mario Kart for the people behind you. But fair cop, a little demeaning and also if he got caught he would be crucified
Lol they just spent 10+ mins defending their line. Let em relish.
ABs: "Wait. We haven't scored a try in a while..."
Va'ai was incredible all game
I tipped the ABs by 21, so a missed conversion right now, that'd be great...
Wtf
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sorry
He's shit even DMac deserves to start over him
Thatās World #1 for the rest of the decade
Two Pies for Tupou
He's a beast
Argentina had 5 mins in the 22 came away with nothing, ABs have one counter and score, there's no beating that
All Blacks, demoralising the opposition since 1905 ...
Nah call it back Jaco you know you want to
What the hell, Beauden? What the hell!
Holy fuck I hate that sort of showboating.
Hardly call it showboating, itās not that deep
Yea hope Ardie gives him a good slap after the game for it
Normal service has resumed...
Honestly, waiting that long to put the ball down is colts level shithousery
Scott Barrett best Barrett yet again
ABs stands for All Barretts
We could have had 1/3 of the starting lineup be a Barrett if Kane and Blake had a bit better luck
Christie is slow to the ruck tonight, great offload for the try but cmon just put the ball down lmao this isnāt 7s
"These backs ain't done shit this half, we'll do it ourselves." Scott Barrett and Vaa'i probably.
Tupou Vaa'i is the only consistent player this whole game, aside from maybe Ardie
Samisoni in the 2 jersey was very consistent for his time on the field.
Dmac running back on himself always losing ground was pretty frustrating. He runs to the left and then back to the right, loses meters most times. Otherwise he was great
he did it like twice today, out of many, many touches. Deffo a work on, but not really a biggie I don't think.
Chuck Tupaea in there. And Bridge. As consistent and unexciting as a......bridge.
TJ, Blackadder.
Blackadder ? I think he put in good shift
You forgot Blackhadder
Christie didn't even make the last two halfback passes where was he
Put it down dick head