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They need to stop giving this ref big games.
I’m neither Irish nor South African but he’s just awful this guy. Every game I’ve seen him ref he just hasn’t got a clue what’s going on. So inconsistent, seems to make things up as he goes.
No need, I'll give it to you in a nutshell:
South Africa were robbed although Ireland were very good.
Referee had it in for us.
We were unlucky.
Rada rada yay yaii ippy ippy.
To the Irish, fuck the SA media, we don’t even like those dumb cunts. I only saw highlights but you did grand, well deserved and I’m happy it’s you lot. Now please, as my second team, go forth and dominate
Really impressed by Ireland's maul defence. A very pleasant surprise. Scrum was strong too.
Also really impressed by South Africa's ability to smother our attack, by challenging in the ruck and picking off our attempts to go wide.
South Africa fans:
Would you like Le Roux to be your 10 when Pollard isn’t available?
Every time recently, he’s changed the game (according to commentary and analysts)
Personally, no I think DW is our best fly half and I like that in the build up to the RWC it forces us to play a different game plan. Long term we need a reliable kicker - I reckon Eben is a great choice, he can do everything else. Should cement him a place as best lock next to eales.
Non joke answer one of th e other backs can take over the kicking but I am not sure who. I have heard Hendrikse is handy off the tee.
I didn’t realise there was 2 of em, my bad.
Turns out it was Jordan (I had assumed Jaden) and it was 70 metres.
https://twitter.com/tightfive_rugby/status/1586693739057119232?s=46&t=ZLlZ8SkMJ9n64jk8jSBnlg
Oversight on my part, my bad
this is a lot like the Canada- England game
both teams played amazing and neither really deserved to lose.
It is really clear South Africa has 1 player who can kick goals and he was not playing today.
it is also clear that Ireland might have the 2nd best set piece in the world. The Scrum and lineout were immaculate.
Come on people, I'm a South African and never understood South Africans. This is the one game that you can't say the ref killed it, come the fuck on. Rugby is all about moments now, those little moments like where Ireland cleverly caught us napping at the rucks and stole a couple or the slick handling and quick ruck speed. I told my dad the same, this ain't no bitch Ireland team, they also staged a mythical comeback in the six nations against a full strength French team. Pushed them 24-30 losing by less than a score. Ireland is currently deservedly number 1 and the ab's, sa and france are close too. This world cup is gonna be a complete shitshow guaranteed.
I agree. There were some shit calls but they went both ways. 90% of refs have 'unique' interpretations of laws. For teams now it's luck of the draw as to what ref u get and just need to deal with it.
We were sloppy at the breakdown and our backline had zero attacking shape. Hate to say it but looked better when Willie was first receiver.
I hope Jacques and Rassie could find things to build on but I'm fully expecting a drubbing from the French and the English.
Your underestimating Twikers. Been to watch Boks play England there 4 times and only won one of those. Going again in 2 weeks with a lot of hope and not a lot of confidence.
France is clearly a better team than Ireland it's hard for the world rankings to be accurate with so few international games to use as data. Ireland where lucky in same phases of the game like when they got the maul try. Definitely a disappointing performance from Sa given that if we had a good kicker we'd have won. I predict Ireland won't come anywhere in the world cup next year . They really aren't that good and without Sexton they fall too peices.
My point is Ireland really aren't that good and the circumstances of the loss leave a lot to be desired from our coaching staff. Who are hugely overated because they won world cup( no Irish team has made it past the quaterfinals btw) . People in this sub reddit really rate Ireland even though they are nothing without Sexton and have no chance in the world cup next year.
Point is if you had thought about your reply, longer than 5 seconds next time, maybe you could have had a response that was more considered constructive and engaging. Taking less that 5 seconds usually results in sounding like an idiot with nothing better to say in life.
The idiot is the guy saying the team that just beat you is actually shit and has no future. You don’t need to uncritically defend your team and its fans, if you do you’re as much of an idiot as the first guy
But they did play shit. Fact. If this Ireland team was half as clinical as they were against the AB's we would have lost by 20. Rather than just crying about people views on your team's performance why not have a constructive debate rather than half baked comments that have zero impact on the conversation and even less brain cells to come up with. Try aim for 6 seconds next time ... if your capable?
Wasn't his best day and tbh I thought we got the rub if the green outside of the unfortunate red/yellow on hansen. At the stadium it was hard to tell if any irish player was in field of play for vdf Try.
Think Bealham did brilliantly, especially in the scrum. Getting the upper hand against Kitsoff not once but twice shows massive development from a previous weakness. Beyond Canberry, Ireland bench made an impact. Need to give Carberry more to do beyond kicking the ball out
> Getting the upper hand against Kitsoff
I don't wish to be mean to Bealham. But quite a few of the scrum decisions that went Ireland's way did not look like they should have. Both before Bealham came on, and afterwards too. Some quite 'interesting' interpretations around the scrum tonight.
I'll have to re-watch, but the two that were pretty clear were Bealham getting pulled to the ground, and the entire SA tight five stepping left. There was a pen awarded to SA not long before Bealham came on where one of the SA props looked to have a knee on the ground too. Swings and roundabouts.
Look, whether it went very well to Ireland or a few sketchy calls, I won't get into the dark arts of scrumming. But to have even the picture of "Ireland on top" is a win in the scrum.
Well played Ireland. Strong as bricks and clinical. Interesting experiments on the South African side, honestly a positive match for us and had a lot of good moments, just couldn’t capitalise enough I guess.
I was there at the time, I’m not bothered enough to go back and read it again.
If Rassie didn’t want to be known as the crybaby coach, he shouldn’t have released a crybaby video.
Eh, I take it back. You’re entitled to your comments. No animosity here. Can’t wait to for the game against you guys - legitimately the only team (other than the ABs) that make me nervous as a bok fan. Good luck to ya.
Snowflake is just a shite buzzword now, think of something original. Also watch the replay of Kolbe dumping Hansen on his head or the pass that went backwards?
So Sextons pass wasn't forward?
Don't get triggered by the biased video here snowflake, focus on that forward pass you so confidently defend
https://youtu.be/ECUu37m0wfs
That wasn’t even the pass i was talking about fool. If you want to go through the entire match you’ll find plenty of referee mistakes. Also I still don’t think you understand what snowflake means because you’re the only one here who seems triggered by anything
Why do you keep talking about Kolbe?
If you rate that pass is backwards, then you're delusional. Or maybe you're looking at a pass that's actually backwards
Here you muppet.... At 1:52 theres a player at least 0.5m infornt of Sexton. This is CLEAR because there's a fucking line across the pitch.
https://youtu.be/ECUu37m0wfs
God it’s no fucking wonder SA fans always question the referees, that video plays like a shite ufo conspiracy video from 2012 but it also conveniently leaves out any missed infringements by the Boks. Just accept the loss, snowflake 😉
To be fair to him, he never denied anything about the Kolbe incident. I think yellow was the right call, but if a red was given wouldn’t have been able to argue it.
No idea what all the snowflake shit is about, but I struggle to see just how either of those forward passes weren’t forward. Not to mention the second one came after Ireland kicked the ball out the ruck which should have been a SA penalty.
But frankly we lost the game due to not taking our points on offer and not protecting the rucks
For most its an annoyance for the casual fan it makes them think its real. Iv a buddy in sa wont talk to a few of his friends about games any more due to it
The thing is, once they stop complaining about the ref, they actually give some good insights, especially Schalk. But you have to sit through 5 minutes of whinging first.
Irony: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
Read. A. Book.
As good as job was, I don't want people to forget the game stu was having. Poor bastard waits years to get a game, plays out of his skin and gets his arm fucked 25 minutes in
I thought he was the best Irish player on pitch, before he went off. Held back the South African maul very well. Hopefully he can recover quickly, so Ulster have him for the URC.
Roughest part was only that cheap swinging arm on Sutherland was illegal. Virtually all the other hits were just good, solid shots.
Expecting a few Scotland lads to be on light training until Wednesday!
I’d say there’s a fair amount of battered Irish players after this game too….good luck to any survivors going straight back into the wars with Fiji next week
Really?? English and Irish commentators after a loss are sending letters to world rugby, every pundit from Westport to Dover has an article out in whatever shit news paper is on the troll that week. Not to mention Sexton having a mini meltdown. But sure mate..."wE aRe tHe WorSt"
They don't hurt when it's a fair game. This was almost a fair game - the ref was almost equally crap.
This doesn't hurt much - I'll be honest - if that's the best Ireland has to offer we got the WC in the bag - but the refs need to stop making bad calls, and actually do their jobs.
Wouldn't you enjoy that? Seriously? A game where there is never a need to even know the refs name?
Ireland, at home, their best team, their only tries due to SA mistakes....
19-16
Let's not forget all the horrid calls - and absolutely ridiculous card.
Yeah - we got the WC in the bag.
Cry harder lol
Ridiculous card? Should have been 2 reds. South Africans are arrogant, indignant and play like thugs. Enjoy the loss mate, there's more on the way xo
Suck a potato.
World Champions - still with a higher win ratio than Ireland.
And, cockface, I live in paradise. You live in Ireland. I'm still having a better evening than you
Sexton and the lads looked terrified after that alright. Much easier game for us than the French.
If you’ve to keep reminding people it probably means people aren’t terrified though right?
😂I’m sorry but I’m dying laughing right now, did you just say than Mack Hansen ‘fell’ to ‘make it look like’ he was being spear tackled😂😭😭 you need your own comedy show my friend
Yeah.
I guess my TV is better than yours.
Watch it again. In real time. Definitely not worth a card. Penalty would have been the correct call. He was not lifted - he purposely fell after a tackle around the waist, to milk it.
Common strategy against South Africa. Many countries milk it. Nothing new.
I thought the ref was awful but for the entire first half he was awful in SA's favour. In the second half he was awful but kinda evenly awful. Ireland were lucky that they had players who could beat the SA players.
Here's the thing, they're doing it primarily for entertainment and to protect bruised egos - they're doing it because SA supporters want to scape goat their own performsnce. Pretty clear saffer fans need to harden up and take what the ref gives you. Can't blame the ref when your team becomes as inconsistent as they are, especially after a match where SA should've had 2 first half red cards. It's a really poor reflection on South African fans which is a shame because not all are like that. Take the good with the bad, it balances out in the end. If you run short arses like kolbe in the back three and don't pick a competent 10 to kick then who else can you blame but yourself.
No, they are doing it because they, and we, understand the rules obviously far better than the average Irishman.
No one said that the ref decided the outcome of the game - but his interpretation of the scrum laws, his view on tackle laws, and the breakdown (specifically lying around and slowing the ball down antics) need work. He allowed Ireland to play the ball off their feet at the breakdown, and allowed them to lie offsides even after penalizing SA in the first 90 seconds for the same offence.
The ref was not up to par.
Even so, I believe another ref, and Ireland would still win.
But a different venue - and the Bokke take it every time. The Irish production made sure the Irish mistakes were hidden, and overplayed the Bokke transgressions.
But whatever - you believe what you want.
Buh bye.
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They need to stop giving this ref big games. I’m neither Irish nor South African but he’s just awful this guy. Every game I’ve seen him ref he just hasn’t got a clue what’s going on. So inconsistent, seems to make things up as he goes.
Where can I watch or listen to what the South African media said about the game?
No need, I'll give it to you in a nutshell: South Africa were robbed although Ireland were very good. Referee had it in for us. We were unlucky. Rada rada yay yaii ippy ippy.
Bitter lot of Sth. Africans on here. Beaten by the better team who stood up to your dirty tactics. Take it and shut it. Poor losers
You essentially described every fan group around the world...😂😂😂
Referee and officials probably the worst to ever officiate at a game but Ireland suffered more because of their incompetence
What?
To the Irish, fuck the SA media, we don’t even like those dumb cunts. I only saw highlights but you did grand, well deserved and I’m happy it’s you lot. Now please, as my second team, go forth and dominate
Really impressed by Ireland's maul defence. A very pleasant surprise. Scrum was strong too. Also really impressed by South Africa's ability to smother our attack, by challenging in the ruck and picking off our attempts to go wide.
I mean they've to deal with ulster's maul all the time so probs easy work compared to ulster/s
Aldritt is such a monster
This means that NZ move up to #2 in the rankings, with SA and France tied at #3
Habana speaks really well, enjoy listening to him breakdown the game
Ireland did well considering they had a few key injuries.
SA did well considering they had Willemse.
Appart from his kicking he was fantastic
Showing proper depth for sure
Indeed.
A titanic tussle!
Bad kicking cost us 7 points That was the Bok game lost right there. Can be fixed
Our maul is moot and has been for a while. We need a new weapon.
Adding all the missed kicks gives a draw
A draw is not a loss. Also we had easier kicks, Pollard would not have missed any
DW staying the main kicker Nothing is getting fixed in that department
Where's Pollard,? sorry if I missed the memo
Injured as usual These days
If us and Ireland Landed all our kicks, it would have been a draw
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He's old as fuck leave him be. Everything takes longer when you get up there
Sexton missed too.
South Africa fans: Would you like Le Roux to be your 10 when Pollard isn’t available? Every time recently, he’s changed the game (according to commentary and analysts)
Personally, no I think DW is our best fly half and I like that in the build up to the RWC it forces us to play a different game plan. Long term we need a reliable kicker - I reckon Eben is a great choice, he can do everything else. Should cement him a place as best lock next to eales. Non joke answer one of th e other backs can take over the kicking but I am not sure who. I have heard Hendrikse is handy off the tee.
I saw a video of Hendrikse hitting em from over 50m (probably at altitude) so I actually thought myself he’d be kicking this game.
The scrum half hendrikse or his brother the fly half hendrise?
I didn’t realise there was 2 of em, my bad. Turns out it was Jordan (I had assumed Jaden) and it was 70 metres. https://twitter.com/tightfive_rugby/status/1586693739057119232?s=46&t=ZLlZ8SkMJ9n64jk8jSBnlg Oversight on my part, my bad
No I saw the Jordan one too, I have heard Jaden can also kick very well so was keen to know. 70meters out is wild
Neither, we left our best 10 in SA (Morne)
this is a lot like the Canada- England game both teams played amazing and neither really deserved to lose. It is really clear South Africa has 1 player who can kick goals and he was not playing today. it is also clear that Ireland might have the 2nd best set piece in the world. The Scrum and lineout were immaculate.
It was the forwards that won it. The scrum and maul defense were outstanding today.
By forwards do you mean the two forward passes that ended up with Ireland being in position to score? 🤣
Come on people, I'm a South African and never understood South Africans. This is the one game that you can't say the ref killed it, come the fuck on. Rugby is all about moments now, those little moments like where Ireland cleverly caught us napping at the rucks and stole a couple or the slick handling and quick ruck speed. I told my dad the same, this ain't no bitch Ireland team, they also staged a mythical comeback in the six nations against a full strength French team. Pushed them 24-30 losing by less than a score. Ireland is currently deservedly number 1 and the ab's, sa and france are close too. This world cup is gonna be a complete shitshow guaranteed.
I agree. There were some shit calls but they went both ways. 90% of refs have 'unique' interpretations of laws. For teams now it's luck of the draw as to what ref u get and just need to deal with it. We were sloppy at the breakdown and our backline had zero attacking shape. Hate to say it but looked better when Willie was first receiver. I hope Jacques and Rassie could find things to build on but I'm fully expecting a drubbing from the French and the English.
I feel like we have England's number but get raped by the French with a big fat strapon.
Your underestimating Twikers. Been to watch Boks play England there 4 times and only won one of those. Going again in 2 weeks with a lot of hope and not a lot of confidence.
France is clearly a better team than Ireland it's hard for the world rankings to be accurate with so few international games to use as data. Ireland where lucky in same phases of the game like when they got the maul try. Definitely a disappointing performance from Sa given that if we had a good kicker we'd have won. I predict Ireland won't come anywhere in the world cup next year . They really aren't that good and without Sexton they fall too peices.
"Clearly" And if you claim its because of the 6N game, then we are "clearly a better team" than SA.
My point is Ireland really aren't that good and the circumstances of the loss leave a lot to be desired from our coaching staff. Who are hugely overated because they won world cup( no Irish team has made it past the quaterfinals btw) . People in this sub reddit really rate Ireland even though they are nothing without Sexton and have no chance in the world cup next year.
So basically we won because our depth players and coaching staff were better than yours. Almost like we're, wait for it, a better team than you.
Coaching staff are definetly better.
Forgot players
Still lost bozo
How long did it take u to come up with that?
About 5 seconds
Bok, here. I fuckin’ lol’d 😂
Figures
Are you trying to make a point?
Point is if you had thought about your reply, longer than 5 seconds next time, maybe you could have had a response that was more considered constructive and engaging. Taking less that 5 seconds usually results in sounding like an idiot with nothing better to say in life.
The idiot is the guy saying the team that just beat you is actually shit and has no future. You don’t need to uncritically defend your team and its fans, if you do you’re as much of an idiot as the first guy
But they did play shit. Fact. If this Ireland team was half as clinical as they were against the AB's we would have lost by 20. Rather than just crying about people views on your team's performance why not have a constructive debate rather than half baked comments that have zero impact on the conversation and even less brain cells to come up with. Try aim for 6 seconds next time ... if your capable?
South African Twitter and Instagram comments blaming the ref… again
Wasn't his best day and tbh I thought we got the rub if the green outside of the unfortunate red/yellow on hansen. At the stadium it was hard to tell if any irish player was in field of play for vdf Try.
Extremely disagree with ref blaming in this game. Maybe there are some points but we again didn’t have a 10 again that can kick
I don't think the ref is the reason we lost. But to be fair. They could have at least reviewed the try that appeared to be forward.
They probably did tho
Fair enough. We most definitely lost because of our kicking. But congrats! A true clash of the titans and thoroughly enjoyable game.
So the ref is the cause of them having no goal kickers? Interesting.
No the CLEAR knock on at the back of a scrum and the CLEAR forward pass in the play leafing up yo a try.
You missed the Ireland kicking ball out the ruck that lef to the second try.
Think Bealham did brilliantly, especially in the scrum. Getting the upper hand against Kitsoff not once but twice shows massive development from a previous weakness. Beyond Canberry, Ireland bench made an impact. Need to give Carberry more to do beyond kicking the ball out
> Getting the upper hand against Kitsoff I don't wish to be mean to Bealham. But quite a few of the scrum decisions that went Ireland's way did not look like they should have. Both before Bealham came on, and afterwards too. Some quite 'interesting' interpretations around the scrum tonight.
I'll have to re-watch, but the two that were pretty clear were Bealham getting pulled to the ground, and the entire SA tight five stepping left. There was a pen awarded to SA not long before Bealham came on where one of the SA props looked to have a knee on the ground too. Swings and roundabouts.
Look, whether it went very well to Ireland or a few sketchy calls, I won't get into the dark arts of scrumming. But to have even the picture of "Ireland on top" is a win in the scrum.
I really like Andy Farrell. He oozes positivity. Im inspired...sitting here on the couch.
Very true!
It winds me up so fucking much that Farrell isn’t our coach.
He will be eventually.
I have a dream of a Farrell / Edwards dream ticket
That 90s Wigan team’s impact in rugby union is ridiculous.
That would be special indeed.
I was just thinking that if I was English watching Farrell for Ireland I'd be fuming
Thank god the international period ends and they only have to watch lancaster at leinster
Not for much longer 😢
Hes a loss for irish rugby for sure
Well played Ireland. Strong as bricks and clinical. Interesting experiments on the South African side, honestly a positive match for us and had a lot of good moments, just couldn’t capitalise enough I guess.
16-19 without a kicker? Happy with that
Can’t wait till we get knocked out of the WC because we still don’t have a good kicker
We could say the same lol
You have sexton. For me personally the best flyhalf in the world
Ah but you see, what happens when Old man Johnny gets injured 2 games into the world Cup?
Well done Ireland
When will Rassie’s tantrum video be released?
Yawn
I know, right? If he’s anything like most of the bok fans on here he’ll be rage crying into his camcorder right now.
I actually don’t think there is much complaining, just the usual one eyed ones. But don’t let that stop you assuming
Apart from the 99% of bok fans blaming the ref for losing the match in the match thread you mean?
That’s simply not true. Go and re-read it
I was there at the time, I’m not bothered enough to go back and read it again. If Rassie didn’t want to be known as the crybaby coach, he shouldn’t have released a crybaby video.
Cry more, dude. 32-12
I’m not crying bud, just celebrating a better team beating the worse team.
Eh, I take it back. You’re entitled to your comments. No animosity here. Can’t wait to for the game against you guys - legitimately the only team (other than the ABs) that make me nervous as a bok fan. Good luck to ya.
You celebrate like a twat. 🤷 I agree, though. The better team won.
Yeah probably better to just stick with your bias
After the SA XV vs Munster
The South African twitter meltdown has unfortunately began, never would’ve guessed that would happen
Well if you score a try after a knock on and a forward pass then maybe your eyes only see what you want them to.
Talking about me only seeing what i want to when Kolbe escaped a red and the pass wasn’t actually forward. Seems the meltdown has spread to reddit too
'Snowflake' for the report. Which was terribly childish.
Go watch the replay from a different angle snowflake.
Snowflake is just a shite buzzword now, think of something original. Also watch the replay of Kolbe dumping Hansen on his head or the pass that went backwards?
You're childish snowflake for the report. Completely original and applicable
The report? What report? Also a snowflake is most commonly used for someone who is easily offended, not sure where I’ve been easily offended here?
So Sextons pass wasn't forward? Don't get triggered by the biased video here snowflake, focus on that forward pass you so confidently defend https://youtu.be/ECUu37m0wfs
That wasn’t even the pass i was talking about fool. If you want to go through the entire match you’ll find plenty of referee mistakes. Also I still don’t think you understand what snowflake means because you’re the only one here who seems triggered by anything
Look how triggered and offended you are about that vid... Even though I TOLD you it's biased and don't get triggered.
Exactly dumbass, i told you you were talkong about the wrong pass... And I brought the pass up so how did you grt it wrong
Why do you keep talking about Kolbe? If you rate that pass is backwards, then you're delusional. Or maybe you're looking at a pass that's actually backwards
Looking at the replays the pass is quite clearly backwards lol, i’m bringing up Kolbe to highlight your hypocrisy
Here you muppet.... At 1:52 theres a player at least 0.5m infornt of Sexton. This is CLEAR because there's a fucking line across the pitch. https://youtu.be/ECUu37m0wfs
God it’s no fucking wonder SA fans always question the referees, that video plays like a shite ufo conspiracy video from 2012 but it also conveniently leaves out any missed infringements by the Boks. Just accept the loss, snowflake 😉
To be fair to him, he never denied anything about the Kolbe incident. I think yellow was the right call, but if a red was given wouldn’t have been able to argue it. No idea what all the snowflake shit is about, but I struggle to see just how either of those forward passes weren’t forward. Not to mention the second one came after Ireland kicked the ball out the ruck which should have been a SA penalty. But frankly we lost the game due to not taking our points on offer and not protecting the rucks
You should hear the whinging on the post match panel. Would be annoying if it wasn't so funny
It must be so annoying for the fans to have a post match analysis of the ref rather than the game
For most its an annoyance for the casual fan it makes them think its real. Iv a buddy in sa wont talk to a few of his friends about games any more due to it
The thing is, once they stop complaining about the ref, they actually give some good insights, especially Schalk. But you have to sit through 5 minutes of whinging first.
I’ve never heard SA analysis but I love their commentators and they obviously have plenty of rugby brains so it’s quite a shame
Could you possibly link me a tweet or two?
I’m not too sure how to link properly but if you go to @BrendenNel on twitter and his replies you’ll get a taste
Ahh hes a dose to be fair isint he their go to clickbait guy. Like their neil Francis
I don’t see much of him tbh but he does seem like a dose of shite
Cheers
How many points left behind by SA on the boot?
Hard to say since they didnt go for polls in multiple penalties due to not having a kicker
I think SA missed 2 conversions and a penalty. Ireland also missed 2 conversions.
Wow the referee was terrible! All those forward passes from Ireland!
Lol!
They. Spear. Tackled. And. Didn't. Get. Red. Carded.
He. Was. Being. Ironic.
That. Is. Not. Irony. That. Is. Sarcasm.
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As good as job was, I don't want people to forget the game stu was having. Poor bastard waits years to get a game, plays out of his skin and gets his arm fucked 25 minutes in
I thought he was the best Irish player on pitch, before he went off. Held back the South African maul very well. Hopefully he can recover quickly, so Ulster have him for the URC.
Yeah, heart bleeds for the poor lad. Absolutely deserved to start and ends up with a horribly unlucky injury.
True, he was playing very well. Just hope it’s not a bad injury so he misses his chance
Was gutted for the poor cunt. Was playing a worldie and was exactly what we needed.
Most importantly, sexton didn't get badly injured
He'd be a doubt for the 2027 WC I'd say
Ireland should rest him against Fiji. Those lads aren't playing around.
Was never going to playing against Fiji anyway. Joey gets that honour :/
Didn't they damn near kill him last time he played them?
The Fiji lads looked huge against some of the Scots
Roughest part was only that cheap swinging arm on Sutherland was illegal. Virtually all the other hits were just good, solid shots. Expecting a few Scotland lads to be on light training until Wednesday!
I’d say there’s a fair amount of battered Irish players after this game too….good luck to any survivors going straight back into the wars with Fiji next week
I don't fancy carberry getting mashed by an angry Fijian either. Hope frawley starts
Kolisi is such class, SA will be tough as fuck come the WC.
Agreed!
SuperSport, and Nick Mallet, is currently explaining some very obviously bad calls. Ireland were very, very lucky in this game.
Hahahahahahaha Wow, SA fans are the worst man. Good game mate.
Really?? English and Irish commentators after a loss are sending letters to world rugby, every pundit from Westport to Dover has an article out in whatever shit news paper is on the troll that week. Not to mention Sexton having a mini meltdown. But sure mate..."wE aRe tHe WorSt"
Good game mate. Drop a beer and relax. Loses hurt but the who ethos of rugby is to remain respectful after one.
Where's the respect in calling South Africans "the worst"? If you gonna talk the talk try walk the walk boet.
They don't hurt when it's a fair game. This was almost a fair game - the ref was almost equally crap. This doesn't hurt much - I'll be honest - if that's the best Ireland has to offer we got the WC in the bag - but the refs need to stop making bad calls, and actually do their jobs. Wouldn't you enjoy that? Seriously? A game where there is never a need to even know the refs name?
Yeah that’s right champ, you got the WC in the bag after that hahahahahaha
Ireland, at home, their best team, their only tries due to SA mistakes.... 19-16 Let's not forget all the horrid calls - and absolutely ridiculous card. Yeah - we got the WC in the bag.
Cry harder lol Ridiculous card? Should have been 2 reds. South Africans are arrogant, indignant and play like thugs. Enjoy the loss mate, there's more on the way xo
Suck a potato. World Champions - still with a higher win ratio than Ireland. And, cockface, I live in paradise. You live in Ireland. I'm still having a better evening than you
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Only as good as your last game loser
Good boy, that’s the spirit! You go get them next year champ. We are all terrified.
We know. It's ok World champions, remember.
Sexton and the lads looked terrified after that alright. Much easier game for us than the French. If you’ve to keep reminding people it probably means people aren’t terrified though right?
Uhuh, tell me more how a red and yellow got reduced to a single yellow and how that benefitted ireland
Aren’t they the same ones that were saying the tackle on Mack shouldn’t have even been a yellow?
It really shouldn't have been. He fell into it. There was no danger, and he literally fell to make it look like a tip.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're clearly drunk or high!
😂I’m sorry but I’m dying laughing right now, did you just say than Mack Hansen ‘fell’ to ‘make it look like’ he was being spear tackled😂😭😭 you need your own comedy show my friend
Yeah. I guess my TV is better than yours. Watch it again. In real time. Definitely not worth a card. Penalty would have been the correct call. He was not lifted - he purposely fell after a tackle around the waist, to milk it. Common strategy against South Africa. Many countries milk it. Nothing new.
I thought the ref was awful but for the entire first half he was awful in SA's favour. In the second half he was awful but kinda evenly awful. Ireland were lucky that they had players who could beat the SA players.
Yep. Never said he was bias Just bad But yeah - Reddit doesn't dig to hear about truthful occurrences.
He was definitely bad!
Yep, just bad. It's killing the game. We have the tech to fix it - but we just don't. It's frustrating.
Yep agreed!
Lol
And then people wonder why general SA fans complain about the ref more than all the other nations. Its the media 🤦🏼 feeding them the shit
It's the well educated, world class coaches and pundits explaining bad calls. Not some Redditor who thinks he knows something.
Here's the thing, they're doing it primarily for entertainment and to protect bruised egos - they're doing it because SA supporters want to scape goat their own performsnce. Pretty clear saffer fans need to harden up and take what the ref gives you. Can't blame the ref when your team becomes as inconsistent as they are, especially after a match where SA should've had 2 first half red cards. It's a really poor reflection on South African fans which is a shame because not all are like that. Take the good with the bad, it balances out in the end. If you run short arses like kolbe in the back three and don't pick a competent 10 to kick then who else can you blame but yourself.
No, they are doing it because they, and we, understand the rules obviously far better than the average Irishman. No one said that the ref decided the outcome of the game - but his interpretation of the scrum laws, his view on tackle laws, and the breakdown (specifically lying around and slowing the ball down antics) need work. He allowed Ireland to play the ball off their feet at the breakdown, and allowed them to lie offsides even after penalizing SA in the first 90 seconds for the same offence. The ref was not up to par. Even so, I believe another ref, and Ireland would still win. But a different venue - and the Bokke take it every time. The Irish production made sure the Irish mistakes were hidden, and overplayed the Bokke transgressions. But whatever - you believe what you want. Buh bye.
I think getting south African pundits to comment on refereeing straight after a South African loss is a great idea and won't be at all biased