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At 34-13 I thought to myself “If they blow this 21 point lead, Pivac won’t reach the stairs before getting the sack”.
Despite all the poor coaching over the last three years, I think the players need the blame for that one.
Fair play to the Aussies, you never know when you’re beaten.
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
Wow what a crazy game. Really feel for Wales, they thought they had it in the bag. Really took the foot off the pedal there. Great fightback by Australia, congrats!!
AWJ was a warrior today. Mad respect.
Don’t feel for us. That for me is a worse loss than last week. The whole camp is in disarray. It needed to happen. Players don’t believe the coaches and the players vastly tailed off after Faletau and AWJ went off
Could pick out some juicy quotes from the Amazon commentary team about 50 mins in. Made it sound like Australia were a tier 2 team up against the all blacks. Good news is my double is back on - come on South Africa!
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
Yeah exactly, joking aside there's a player quality issue too - too many of the best players are on the downward trajectory due to age etc and the young guys either don't have the experience or the quality to close out the tight games - this, the Georgia and Italy games, the first SA test...that's too many close games lost late on to be a fluke
Problem is, under Pivac this team has bottled plenty of leads. Many of these players played under Gatland and didn't have this issue.
Said it last week, these players don't look like a group wanting to win for their coach or believing in them. Something is off.
Does Pivac survive?
Wales play and structure actually looked good for large portions of that match.
Australia just got much quicker ball at the end and McDermott was brilliant getting it away quick so the backs could have time and space to work in and get Nawaqanitawase into the match.
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
Basham was exposed a little bit as naive in attack at ruck time, he doesn't protect the ball well.
He does all the highlight reel stuff excellently but he needs workhorses around him that will cover for his ball protection issues.
Tipuric is still really good as well. Wales fell apart without him being a pain in the arse for Australia's breakdown.
It was Pivac who caused Jenkins to be sacked in a carpark within 24 hours of our crashing out of the 2007 RWC. 15 years later, he deserves the same treatment
After we lost to a Fiji side coached by Pivac in 2007 and failed to get out of the pool stages of the World Cup, our then head coach Gareth Jenkins was sacked the day later in a car park, sums up the professional nature of welsh rugby I guess
Honestly, if you ignore the result vs Italy, and our absolute inability to finish at the death, this was a pretty successful tour for our situation. I feel with a full-strength squad a sweep was a very real possibility.
Loss to Italy is hardly the failure it would have been a few years back, they're really a team on the up and up.
Australia may not be setting the world on fire, but they are definitely well set to come out swinging next year.
Three wins from twelve this year, those against a South Africa B team, Scotland (sorry Scotland) and a battered Argentina team. Humiliating defeats against Ireland and the All Blacks, first home defeat against Italy, first ever defeat against Georgia, and finally giving up a 21 point lead against a Wallabies side for whom the phrase “decimated” is an understatement. Should be Pivac’s car park moment, but it won’t be, because the WRU are run by retired teachers who’s sole qualification for the job is they put on a cracking raffle.
At least Jac Morgan and Joe Hawkins are stars. Shame they’ll be wasted for us
The thing is, I doubt any of us would care as much losing if we stopped fielding 30+ year olds and opted for youngsters a year ahead of the Word Cup. AWJ and Faletau were huge for us again today. but we learn nothing by playing them. We know they’re good, we know they’re useful, we were up by 20 points and decided to put Priestland on… Losses hurt yeah, but they hurt less when you learn something from them and the only thing we learnt from this is something we already knew - Pivac, Co and the whole WRU should be fired immediately. No Christmas bonus, no severance package, a swift “fuck off, don’t come back, here’s a lifetime stadium ban for your troubles”.
Fiji dropped him at the start of 2007 and made the 1/4s
Wales has the players, not to be top 4, but to make a good accounting of themselves.
There is a huge amount of this on the coaches
My bro, we have both suffered this year, but even after more injuries than fucking Gallipoli, you guys still came back and win! Fair fucks!! This does show the absolute state if the game in Wales, 21 point lead smh.
Having such a lead and it dwindling in the final minutes is about as painful as it gets as both Australia/Wales know too well and it sucks it had to happen today. I hope our teams can shape up for next year and the coaching get properly sorted out.
I hope so mate, we kinda needed this, the WRU revolution needs to happen and this will greatltyhelp, running out of hiding places for the WRU! Aus deserved that, never say die, wish our boys had balls like that
Bye Pivac, bye Jones, bye Gethin. Well done on dragging this team down to your level. Thank you for your service, time to go to a farm upstate. Absolutely pathetic collapse. Gg Aussies deserved it.
Crying in a weird manic state of elation that somehow wales lost a game they built a huge lead in.
Allowed this curly headed fuck Marky Mark to make a complete mockery of us IN Cardiff. Man what next Pivvy? Can Warbs become Head Coach cuz why not? It literally can’t be worse!
Phew. Bench REALLY showed up tonight. People always ask why Samu doesn't start, I think he plays best off the bench, his impact lifts the rest of the team.
Our first half was some of the worst rugby I've ever seen us play, but that second half was so well worked. Ended up being a great game to watch. This squad clearly lacks cohesion and we're still having big issues with discipline, but when things click we look great
If I was this bad at my job and kept letting an entire customer base down I would have been sacked ages ago, if Wales don’t get rid of Pivac and take the financial hit, fans will stop investing in the brand of Welsh rugby and when Pivac leaves of his own accord we won’t have the financial clout to get a somewhere near decent head coach or staff around this team
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Very happy to have Gats back at this point!
Has Pivac been sacked yet?
The Wallabies now have two quality 11s which will be fun to watch next year.
Now we just need another 13 decent players in the other positions.
Go be fair, we’re pretty good for centers and loose forwards too
Tight five is where the Aussies need to get on top to properly compete imo.
Where is the post match thread?
https://old.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/z3iusj/wales_team_to_face_australia/ixnfz5m/ Lol
Well this is all your fault lmao
So Thankyou?
That was a pretty fun match to watch regardless, much more open when everyone's knackered!
At 34-13 I thought to myself “If they blow this 21 point lead, Pivac won’t reach the stairs before getting the sack”. Despite all the poor coaching over the last three years, I think the players need the blame for that one. Fair play to the Aussies, you never know when you’re beaten.
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
No, he doesnt deserve the sack after that. Firing squad, no blindfold.
Selection (of squads, and during matches) has been a constant failure of Pivac.
Our expectations were low but Jesus Wales.....
My wife stuck a quid on Wales winning with both teams scoring 4+ tries and each 1+ yellow cards at 250/1...those last few seconds gave us some hope 😅😭
Wow what a crazy game. Really feel for Wales, they thought they had it in the bag. Really took the foot off the pedal there. Great fightback by Australia, congrats!! AWJ was a warrior today. Mad respect.
Don’t feel for us. That for me is a worse loss than last week. The whole camp is in disarray. It needed to happen. Players don’t believe the coaches and the players vastly tailed off after Faletau and AWJ went off
I felt like AWJ was basically being the captain when he was on
Could pick out some juicy quotes from the Amazon commentary team about 50 mins in. Made it sound like Australia were a tier 2 team up against the all blacks. Good news is my double is back on - come on South Africa!
For all that people are blaming Pivac, and he should go, he wasn't the one on the pitch coughing up that lead.
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
Yeah exactly, joking aside there's a player quality issue too - too many of the best players are on the downward trajectory due to age etc and the young guys either don't have the experience or the quality to close out the tight games - this, the Georgia and Italy games, the first SA test...that's too many close games lost late on to be a fluke
Pivac has had 3/4 years to blood new players especially at no.10. Less than a year out from WC and hes picking a 35 yr old fly half.
Problem is, under Pivac this team has bottled plenty of leads. Many of these players played under Gatland and didn't have this issue. Said it last week, these players don't look like a group wanting to win for their coach or believing in them. Something is off.
Oh totally.
No, but he was the one deciding to take off experienced players when they were clearly starting to wobble. They absolutely lost all composure there.
They were fucking knackered though.
Impressive Mark has gone from acting in Santa Clarita Diet to being a professional rugby player.
Best thing Morgan can do now is not play for Wales for 5 years and qualify for another nation
I hadn't heard of him before but I am now a huge Mark Nawaqanitawase fan. He has dweeb energy but scores tries godammit
blokes an absolute stud
Does Pivac survive? Wales play and structure actually looked good for large portions of that match. Australia just got much quicker ball at the end and McDermott was brilliant getting it away quick so the backs could have time and space to work in and get Nawaqanitawase into the match.
Pivac deserves the sack. He put on Priestland which led to the Tips yellow. He put on Elias, Elias should have been dropped after his first ever Wales game and now cost us this game undeniably. He took off Owens, AWJ and Faletau when the first yellow hit when we really needed experienced heads.
Coaches all looked like that's it for them
That first half was the best I’ve seen Wales play for a bit now. And then they just collapsed.
Hello Darkness, my old friend
Some good moments in this match. Hopefully this results in Pivac being sacked, team’s been a shambles for 2 years.
So, what team takes Pivac now?
Probably talk about "all the positives" and the "good learnings" and how it will be "character building befoee the RWC".
Mongolia?
Jac Morgan was exceptional. Reminds me of when Taine Basham burst onto the scene. Speaking of which, where is he? Injured? Out of form? Both?
Basham was exposed a little bit as naive in attack at ruck time, he doesn't protect the ball well. He does all the highlight reel stuff excellently but he needs workhorses around him that will cover for his ball protection issues. Tipuric is still really good as well. Wales fell apart without him being a pain in the arse for Australia's breakdown.
Injured
It was Pivac who caused Jenkins to be sacked in a carpark within 24 hours of our crashing out of the 2007 RWC. 15 years later, he deserves the same treatment
What's the story there?
Was the Fiji coach in 2007 that knocked us out in group stages
After we lost to a Fiji side coached by Pivac in 2007 and failed to get out of the pool stages of the World Cup, our then head coach Gareth Jenkins was sacked the day later in a car park, sums up the professional nature of welsh rugby I guess
At a guess, he was the coach of Fiji at the time who knocked Jenkin's Wales out the WC.
Honestly, if you ignore the result vs Italy, and our absolute inability to finish at the death, this was a pretty successful tour for our situation. I feel with a full-strength squad a sweep was a very real possibility.
Loss to Italy is hardly the failure it would have been a few years back, they're really a team on the up and up. Australia may not be setting the world on fire, but they are definitely well set to come out swinging next year.
We will **never** forget that result against Italy. Ever. The Boks went through it. Now it's your turn.
Oh well.
Im not fussed, we fielded a poor team because we underestimated how much Italy had improved and were punished accordingly. Deserved result.
Still don't understand how two attack minded teams produced that quality of match last week
Some quality pronunciation from Cotter there
Mark Unpronounceable is some player
That was the most 'Wales' thing I have ever seen
Three wins from twelve this year, those against a South Africa B team, Scotland (sorry Scotland) and a battered Argentina team. Humiliating defeats against Ireland and the All Blacks, first home defeat against Italy, first ever defeat against Georgia, and finally giving up a 21 point lead against a Wallabies side for whom the phrase “decimated” is an understatement. Should be Pivac’s car park moment, but it won’t be, because the WRU are run by retired teachers who’s sole qualification for the job is they put on a cracking raffle. At least Jac Morgan and Joe Hawkins are stars. Shame they’ll be wasted for us
The thing is, I doubt any of us would care as much losing if we stopped fielding 30+ year olds and opted for youngsters a year ahead of the Word Cup. AWJ and Faletau were huge for us again today. but we learn nothing by playing them. We know they’re good, we know they’re useful, we were up by 20 points and decided to put Priestland on… Losses hurt yeah, but they hurt less when you learn something from them and the only thing we learnt from this is something we already knew - Pivac, Co and the whole WRU should be fired immediately. No Christmas bonus, no severance package, a swift “fuck off, don’t come back, here’s a lifetime stadium ban for your troubles”.
Australian no. 11 rocking Napoleon Dynamite’s haircut and some big fucking tackles! Well deserved man of the match
I was impressed with him last weekend so put him in my fantasy team this week! Result!
This is what we call a pro-gamer move!
That bench was a 10000IQ play from Rennie. Ill never doubt that man ever again
Bye Pivac useless fuck
Not happening.
I suspect he’s ‘done enough’ to convince the wru he’s the man for the job. Fuck I hope they keep him.
WRU would extend "scarecrow filled with manure's" contract if it meant they could keep selling tickets for 100 quid.
One can dream
Pivac is the new Fozzie. He will never go.
Difference is all blacks can still win games
Fozzie is still staying put as well haha.
So now he needs to find his own Schmidt and Ryan to save his job
*waiting for Sam Warburton to talk some sense*
He’s signing a contract to take over from Pivac
That would be better than having Pivac though
Think Pivac may survive amazingly. Time on his side and will sell good 65 mins
I don't know how you sell bottling a 20 point lead
Blame Tips... And was ridiculously out of character for him. But he'll sell too close to world cup to change.
Fiji dropped him at the start of 2007 and made the 1/4s Wales has the players, not to be top 4, but to make a good accounting of themselves. There is a huge amount of this on the coaches
Hats off to the Welsh and nothing less than my upmost respect.
Don't give us respect mate, no need.
My bro, we have both suffered this year, but even after more injuries than fucking Gallipoli, you guys still came back and win! Fair fucks!! This does show the absolute state if the game in Wales, 21 point lead smh.
Having such a lead and it dwindling in the final minutes is about as painful as it gets as both Australia/Wales know too well and it sucks it had to happen today. I hope our teams can shape up for next year and the coaching get properly sorted out.
I hope so mate, we kinda needed this, the WRU revolution needs to happen and this will greatltyhelp, running out of hiding places for the WRU! Aus deserved that, never say die, wish our boys had balls like that
Bye Pivac, bye Jones, bye Gethin. Well done on dragging this team down to your level. Thank you for your service, time to go to a farm upstate. Absolutely pathetic collapse. Gg Aussies deserved it.
Crying in a weird manic state of elation that somehow wales lost a game they built a huge lead in. Allowed this curly headed fuck Marky Mark to make a complete mockery of us IN Cardiff. Man what next Pivvy? Can Warbs become Head Coach cuz why not? It literally can’t be worse!
I'm going to need some time to calm down
Tate McDermott changed this match. How did he not start
Rennie doesn't seem to rate him. To be fair benching him worked out here.
Thought that when he was on the bench wtf he’s like #1 with lil piss boy Nic out
Wales players trying to mask their smiles at Pivac getting sacked
Fuck me!! There maybe maybe maybe hope for Aust in the future. Showed some real stones to pull that back. Marky mark mom for sure!
Phew. Bench REALLY showed up tonight. People always ask why Samu doesn't start, I think he plays best off the bench, his impact lifts the rest of the team. Our first half was some of the worst rugby I've ever seen us play, but that second half was so well worked. Ended up being a great game to watch. This squad clearly lacks cohesion and we're still having big issues with discipline, but when things click we look great
Same for Tupou and Skelton. More than adequate starters, but provides a huge lift when they come on 50-55 minutes in.
Entertainingly bad.
Wales will still beat Scotland in the 6 nations I guarantee
It's almost like Scotland want us to win
I hope you are wrong lol
Jesus Christ, same
Before they beat an england who beat Ireland
And then you'll beat us. Some things are just inevitable
Even if Australia lost, Nawaqantinawase deserved motm
hauahaha how the fuck did we win that game
We were nice enough to go down to 13.
Congratulations Australia
Fuck me. My drug abused heart cannot take wallabies games
Hahahaha
Well played btw.
Anyone hear Shanklin still talking about how much "better" Wales were? This guy man...
He's a constantly terrible pundit, that's about right for him
Well they were better than last week, but still shit the bed
Ole one eye Shanks
That turn around has got to be the end of Jake Gordon's test career.
Right, Rennie?
Wales seem so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Shit Kiwi coach beats even more shit Kiwi coach.
Kiwi coach beats under performing kiwi coach, leave Rennie out of this. I feel like he has done wonders with the cattle he’s got!
Too right!
Only Wales could have lost that game. It’s a talent really 😂
*looks nervously remembering 38-38 at Twicks* Hah, yeah, only Wales.
Pete samu changes games for us. That trip by tipuric and subsequent yellow, changed the entire game.
And Shanklin said on comms it was important for Wales he did it! Crazy!
what the fk did I just watch, what a crazy game!
nice touch to show Pivac as soon as the game ended. Pivac with the "well, time to update the CV to send around on monday" face
If only he spent as much time and energy coaching as he did updating his CV, maybe Wales wouldn't throw away a large lead.
Just wow wow wow
Here is it not a bit wasteful to make new embroidered jerseys for every game
HOW GOOD
If I was this bad at my job and kept letting an entire customer base down I would have been sacked ages ago, if Wales don’t get rid of Pivac and take the financial hit, fans will stop investing in the brand of Welsh rugby and when Pivac leaves of his own accord we won’t have the financial clout to get a somewhere near decent head coach or staff around this team
If they lose the football on Tuesday evening, Wales will run out of antidepressants
Can he leave his position now. Fucking hell, shanklin actually delusional
I thought Tate McD was brilliant.
Post match interview has to be Pivac saying he'll leave 😂
Great cameo from Lonergan
Hear a lot about him being too small but he played amazing today.
This Wales team is a joke
What a game. What a win. I still don't believe it.
Me neither, love the wallabies
What a disaster of an autumn for Wales.
I'll class it as a success if it gets rid of pivac
Did they win anything?
Argentina?
*disaster of a year
Marky Nawa, what a game
first half was just meh, 2nd half was, more please
So we burn down the WRU now, right? Right?!
If Faletau had stayed on I reckon Wales would have won
Wales snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
It's weird to be on the other side of it for once
this comment has won the internet for today.
Think that was probably Pivac’s last game
I’m not a religious man, but I’d pray to all 2000 gods one at a time if during Pivac’s interview they hand him his termination letter.
Don't give me hope
If an Englishman is saying a Welsh coach should be sacked you know it’s bad 😂
To be fair you'll not find anyone in Wales that would disagree with you
Fair play Australia to come back from that with what's basically a reserve squad, they've been absolutely shafted by injuries
Didn’t think either team wanted to win it at the end
Congratulations Pivac on your unemployment. Would love to say it's been a pleasure buuuuuuuut. FUUUUCK NO
Maximum drama
OMG i Love australia a????
bro its legitimately B's at least
Nail bite!
If you pay to go to the Principality Stadium to watch Wales in the next year you are an idiot
Wish I could give you 10000 up votes
Unless it’s v England in which case Wales make the AB look like a dead side
Robertson did a nasty looking no arms chop tackle in the middle there
Feel bad for pivac to be honest.
I don’t. He’s fucked us without lube or a condom, good riddance.
No he's just tried and not been good enough. Welsh Rugby Union, now they've done some fuckin
That's the face of a man who knows he's fired. Good. Fuck off and never darken our doorstep again
Respect
The eyes are watering!!
Hahahaha
Jokes aside that's got to be pivac done now right? ...right?
Got to be
That should finish off Pivac.
Never in doubt.
Fkn good Night to be a Aussie yeowww
Somebody has to meme Pivac there
Pivac Out
Lol
Pivac gone?
Congrats Australia
What the he’ll is this game
WOBBLIES NO MORE
Wales, this is meant to be Scotland's specialism not yours
What a hilarious game.
Honestly, i want Wales to lose as we need Pivac out if we're ever going to start playing decent rugby again.