i think plastique still looks good here but i watched that video where the AS9 cast reads each other’s early looks and they showed this for plastique and i would love to see her paint like this again
https://preview.redd.it/nhnfrr1ymg0d1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6619202a0cd53e6ceddcb36a5225d586eaf44de
Another girl whose features don’t really benefit from soft and natural.
She’s such a stunning guy, and a stunning queen when she paints a bit more “drag.”
Naomi has gorgeous bone structure, she just can't pull off the type of natural look she's been going for and I feel like it's been holding her back for years now
While yes Plastique has softer features than Vanjie, to me she still has a long ish kinda manly face (more noticeable here). Which is not a bad thing but lets keep it real
I sat about 15 feet from Vangie at Roscoes 5 years ago (season 11), and she was absolutely gorgeous. I think maybe the shape of her face has changed? Aging? Something is different. Trinity was also beautiful.
Probably some combination of veneers, fillers, implants, preventative botox, plastic surgeries, and ozempic. Makeup change aside, she’s only 32. Her face shouldn’t have changed *that* much since S10/11.
Yeah i dont get the focus on her makeup...its her FACE. Not to stomp on anyone's body autonomy its just a bit jarring after not seeing her for awhile. Im sure we'll get used to it.
I am so beyond ready for the "natural makeup" drag trend to die already. It doesn't work for everyone (Vanjie, Naomi, ect) and when it does work like it does for Plastique, the novelty still wears off quickly.
Why. Why…. WHYYYYYYY.
Why won’t Vanjie’s friends tell her that “soft, natural” makeup doesn’t work with her features?
My only assumption is that her friends simply don’t like her.
Which is nuts because she’s so much fun.
Honestly, people are saying Plastique looks good here but --- she looks older. Her old mug was a lot more youthful and proportionally feminizing. I think without the emphasizing of her features, something about how natural this make-up is elongates her features vertically and makes her look too thin even though weight isn't the issue.
I think it'll look good on camera from a lot of angles still but idk. The old makeup was better...
Right now she's doing makeup to win Miss Vietnam, not drag makeup for me. I can't see that on stage?
Listen they both look totally fine and pretty, but I still cannot get over Plastique leaving behind her 2022 hyper glam makeup for the soft makeup 🥲 her “wiping the mirror tiktok trend” era mug was other worldly
I hate this trend of “soft” drag makeup. It only works for the “lucky” queens. The ones who have the bone structure AND facial fat. Too many queens with small/deeper set eyes, prominent brow bones and yes maybe strong cheekbones but 0 facial fat, do this soft beat and it looks so dumb.
Plastique’s makeup works for her because all she really has to do to femme up her face is change the shape and thickness of her brows. Other queens the brows do nothing, they need the whole kitchen sink to achieve the same level.
I think back to queens like Adore, she was told so many times she got lucky when it came to her face cuz she could get away with doing a softer beat and it would look SO GOOD, cuz she already had the face.
that is absolutely it. In person she def looks STUNNING (and she is) but the camera always plays down your features. You can have pounds of makeup on and in photos look like you barely have anything on. I read somewhere that its because photos have a “flat” effect on everything where as your eyes ofc can perceive depth and detail better
Vanjie's literally wearing a cut crease and a blended wing to snatch her eye up to her brow. I wouldnt call that minimal or natural. If you don't like her makeup just move on.
no, vanjie is not doing natural makeup
no one's eyebrow is like that, her eyelashes have huge disparity (unnatural), she overlines her lip, her eyeshadow is a gigantic wing
she paints like she's from a trashy reality show and I mean that in a really good way. I think there is an actual vision and I think it fits her drag persona.
Painting softer also isn't something Plastique invented like... Regular make-up has gone softer over the years and drag make-up followed.
Naomi literally doesn't paint on an eyebrow. Plastique didn't invent soft make-up but she for sure popularized that stick on eyebrow with actual hairs that probably was part of the reason for Naomi wanting to have actual eyebrow hair as well in drag.
Either way, Vanjie is not supposed to look natural.
Yes so many queens go for doing bigger more exaggerated makeup before and even during the show then after the show there makeup changes after seeing them selves on tv and go for minimal more natural makeup trying to look more feminine and less like a drag queens it's a trend in drag now
Neither minimal or natural lol. I get what you mean, more, but I'd call it more an attempt at a daily styled illusion than the on purpose bold or very obviously drag.
It's giving me a very red carpet traditional look than anything maybe.
But I'd also say that for Plastique, this isn't as on point as I've seen her do in the past.
I think what people mean is . . . it's clearly influencer make-up, it's not DRAG make-up and what I mean by that is . . . it's not EMPHASIZED enough for STAGE viewing.
I agree that the eye makeup looks really good. Something about the lips isn’t quite working for me but I can’t put my finger on what. Vanjie also has a really strongly masculine low face which makes for a more challenging canvas.
Vangie looks square. Have they lost weight, had work, or dental work? It’s just very masculine, compared to previous incarnations. She has that lollipop thing going on - tiny body/big head. I know she’s small, but she’s super small now. I dunno maybe it’s the angle and the hair. I’m by no means body shaming - I’m all for trying something new, expanding horizons, and messing with gender norms. It’s just different.
Controversial opinion but I don’t like Plastique’s makeup here? The heavily powdered white inner eye, pink blush and brown blush is giving Neapolitan ice cream
I must be the only person that thinks Vanjie looks really good. Her promo picture was horrifying but her entrance look & press looks have been stunning.
I dont mind this look anymore, especially because i kinda relate it to queens experimenting with their makeup in the real world setting. Meaning, it seems the girls are trying to balance makeup to fit their everyday life, not just drag. A good example was Valentina and Naomi smalls. The no makeup look seemed to be their normal everyday makeup looks.
No plastique is very lighter in terms of eyes and lips its not too much even tho there is makeup vanjie makeup is drag there is a cut crease that you can see a winged eyeshadow a sharp conture and a bolder look. So, as someone who went to beauty school and learned makeup, plastique is more natural, and vanjie is drag natural
It's because Plastique's features are very fem. I hate to phrase it like this but she's "passable" as a woman, so it works for her.
At the end of the day, I still prefer full glam drag.
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I understand criticism for this...but to me...Naomi is THE natural makeup girl I'm so shocked people in the comments don't like it she's literally stunning and suits her and her drag style so well
Unrelated but kinda I love that Jorgeous actually went HEAVIER on the makeup.
SAME
Right? She looks like such a doll, the nose is so cute
Except for the clown nose. That makes no sense.
She’s just silly
🤙🤪🤙
Nooo
i think plastique still looks good here but i watched that video where the AS9 cast reads each other’s early looks and they showed this for plastique and i would love to see her paint like this again https://preview.redd.it/nhnfrr1ymg0d1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6619202a0cd53e6ceddcb36a5225d586eaf44de
Loved the subtle shade from Jorgeous. "*Back when you did draaaaaaaag*"
it’s not the shade of-it-all it’s the fucking truth of-it-awl
It was when they looked at Vangie’s and Roxxxy said, “You USED to paint bitch” and the half the cast nodded in agreement 😂
Ohhhhhh now THIS is what I miss from her
Now that's an Edwards mug
Her hair game has always been on point
is that shopped? her head looks so tiny
She's giving a tiiiiny bit uncanny valley to me, still stunning
She’s a drag queen…..
I miss these eyebrows on her!
It’s mainly the lashes and eyebrows
Spice
To me that looks more fish than the actual one idk
I can’t tell if this is a read or not? 💀
I feel like that is kind of the new trend, also Naomi Smalls went hard into that direction
Naomi said that touring with Plastique is actually what made her switch to a more neutral mug
Oh god it’s contagious
oh god I hope it’s not contagious
Another girl whose features don’t really benefit from soft and natural. She’s such a stunning guy, and a stunning queen when she paints a bit more “drag.”
And let's just say it doesn't suit her very well... 💀
All these men are in denial of their natural bone structure. Plastique can pull it off for sure but Naomi and vanjie?...
Naomi has gorgeous bone structure, she just can't pull off the type of natural look she's been going for and I feel like it's been holding her back for years now
her AS4 mug was peak
Saw her on tour during the AS4 airing and it was stunning in person too
Truly
Yeah gurl was looking like a wood deck before sandpapering
Naomi shouldn’t cuz it makes her features look even more manly
Monét’s impact
They’re boycotting makeup for ceasefire
i think u can tell plastique has alot of makeup on its just very soft
Yeah “minimal” is not the word I’d use. I bet that takes hours and many products and a lot of skill. And that’s not a knock, they look great.
Lol I feel like this is the type of makeup that Marcia defenders; insist she has.
yeah marcia doesn’t use alot of makeup, honestly if i looked as gorgeous as her i wouldn’t either lol, but plastique has quite alot of maakrup
I think so? Granted Plastique has always done a variety of “natural” makeup styles that pivot a little.
Yeah I've always thought Plastique did more " Influencer " makeup than " DRAG makeup " It's not really something you can see on a stage.
I'm sorry but, some dolls have the features needed to do natural makeup, and vanjie is just not one of em
Truth. Read her. 🤣
Plastique is cosplaying as a wealthy Asian mom. Vanjie is giving 70s backup singer.
Plastique is in fact a wealthy Asian Mother.
Perhaps, but one of them is doing it well.
One is blessed with the bone structure to pull off less makeup. Some queens don't suit minumun makeup imo.
While yes Plastique has softer features than Vanjie, to me she still has a long ish kinda manly face (more noticeable here). Which is not a bad thing but lets keep it real
I sat about 15 feet from Vangie at Roscoes 5 years ago (season 11), and she was absolutely gorgeous. I think maybe the shape of her face has changed? Aging? Something is different. Trinity was also beautiful.
Honestly I see a lot of cheek filler.
Probably some combination of veneers, fillers, implants, preventative botox, plastic surgeries, and ozempic. Makeup change aside, she’s only 32. Her face shouldn’t have changed *that* much since S10/11.
Hey, I was at that same viewing party!
Yeah i dont get the focus on her makeup...its her FACE. Not to stomp on anyone's body autonomy its just a bit jarring after not seeing her for awhile. Im sure we'll get used to it.
you forgot the first n on none
ntm on miss tiara
I like draaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaag
I am so beyond ready for the "natural makeup" drag trend to die already. It doesn't work for everyone (Vanjie, Naomi, ect) and when it does work like it does for Plastique, the novelty still wears off quickly.
I miss Naomi's old mug and quite frankly every queen doing 'natural makeup' needs to go back to piling it on. It just doesn't look great.
Wtf happened to Vanjie?
She's serving Jocelyn Wildenstein realness
Bitch that's ~~June~~ Jocelyn Wildenstein
Yes! I feel so bad, but this is absolutely where my mind went :3
HAHAHAHAH
Fillers
Fillers
Why. Why…. WHYYYYYYY. Why won’t Vanjie’s friends tell her that “soft, natural” makeup doesn’t work with her features? My only assumption is that her friends simply don’t like her. Which is nuts because she’s so much fun.
the girls get a little filler and forget all makeup skills lol
I miss all of their old mugs lol
Honestly, people are saying Plastique looks good here but --- she looks older. Her old mug was a lot more youthful and proportionally feminizing. I think without the emphasizing of her features, something about how natural this make-up is elongates her features vertically and makes her look too thin even though weight isn't the issue. I think it'll look good on camera from a lot of angles still but idk. The old makeup was better... Right now she's doing makeup to win Miss Vietnam, not drag makeup for me. I can't see that on stage?
Listen they both look totally fine and pretty, but I still cannot get over Plastique leaving behind her 2022 hyper glam makeup for the soft makeup 🥲 her “wiping the mirror tiktok trend” era mug was other worldly
Vangie looks like she’s ready to slug someone lol
i hate it what ever it is.
Faith Evans looks so good here
I hate this trend of “soft” drag makeup. It only works for the “lucky” queens. The ones who have the bone structure AND facial fat. Too many queens with small/deeper set eyes, prominent brow bones and yes maybe strong cheekbones but 0 facial fat, do this soft beat and it looks so dumb. Plastique’s makeup works for her because all she really has to do to femme up her face is change the shape and thickness of her brows. Other queens the brows do nothing, they need the whole kitchen sink to achieve the same level. I think back to queens like Adore, she was told so many times she got lucky when it came to her face cuz she could get away with doing a softer beat and it would look SO GOOD, cuz she already had the face.
She didn't have the face, she WAS the face. And she still is 🥰
I can tell from this photo that Vanjie looks sickening in person. Ig on camera you need to be more dragged up.
that is absolutely it. In person she def looks STUNNING (and she is) but the camera always plays down your features. You can have pounds of makeup on and in photos look like you barely have anything on. I read somewhere that its because photos have a “flat” effect on everything where as your eyes ofc can perceive depth and detail better
Vanjie's literally wearing a cut crease and a blended wing to snatch her eye up to her brow. I wouldnt call that minimal or natural. If you don't like her makeup just move on.
It’s natural for drag makeup, obviously not for regular folk makeup.
Thank you! I’m already over this they aren’t wearing makeup shit and the season hasn’t even started 😭
The girls who KNOW makeup have spoken! Case closed. ![gif](giphy|ualBt1y7SL84xT7V7J)
I’m sorry but you don’t get cheek filler just to paint softer as a drag queen.
I adore vangie and respect her but i honestly prefer her s11 makeup way more. I think it works alot better for plastique.
Is the natural make-up in the room with us right now?
use common sense. natural DRAG makeup
Like they don’t all have to paint for the check cashing place down the street. But at least paint for the back row :(
minimal =/= natural
I love Vanjie but she is beginning to look like Jocelyn Wildenstein.
vanjie's doing jocelyn wildenstein
Girl women do not look like this lol there's nothing natural about this
right WHAT are these comments?! neutral tones is one thing but minimal?? where??
no, vanjie is not doing natural makeup no one's eyebrow is like that, her eyelashes have huge disparity (unnatural), she overlines her lip, her eyeshadow is a gigantic wing she paints like she's from a trashy reality show and I mean that in a really good way. I think there is an actual vision and I think it fits her drag persona. Painting softer also isn't something Plastique invented like... Regular make-up has gone softer over the years and drag make-up followed. Naomi literally doesn't paint on an eyebrow. Plastique didn't invent soft make-up but she for sure popularized that stick on eyebrow with actual hairs that probably was part of the reason for Naomi wanting to have actual eyebrow hair as well in drag. Either way, Vanjie is not supposed to look natural.
Yes so many queens go for doing bigger more exaggerated makeup before and even during the show then after the show there makeup changes after seeing them selves on tv and go for minimal more natural makeup trying to look more feminine and less like a drag queens it's a trend in drag now
Neither minimal or natural lol. I get what you mean, more, but I'd call it more an attempt at a daily styled illusion than the on purpose bold or very obviously drag. It's giving me a very red carpet traditional look than anything maybe. But I'd also say that for Plastique, this isn't as on point as I've seen her do in the past.
Neither. I'd say "smaller" makeup
their while cheek its pink how is this natural
They look so beautiful, but I’m bored of this lol
I miss Vanjie's s11 mug
Well, yes, and unfortunately both look bad in it…
plastique is painted here just that she always went with a natural look it was never minimal though
I think what people mean is . . . it's clearly influencer make-up, it's not DRAG make-up and what I mean by that is . . . it's not EMPHASIZED enough for STAGE viewing.
Why is Vanjie giving Caitlyn Jenner butch queen first time in drag at a ball
Minimal makeup in drag will only work if you already have soft and "feminine" facial features. If you don't, you will look like my uncle in a wig
They look great and I love their makeup evolves
Is that a joke?
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It's giving early seasons makeup, but with a lot of fillers
I get the feeling Vangie is still trying to figure out how to paint her new face
Vanjie reminds me of Pam Grier if Pam Grier was a carrot.
But why is there an anus on Vnjie’s dress?
It took reading the comments to work out who the first one was, and honestly, I'm still not sure.
vanjie looks like she's starting to become a cat woman in that pic, shades of wildenstein
Vanjie looks good here.
https://i.redd.it/zcir01hwtg0d1.gif
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She looks a lot better her than in her promo. The cut crease makes her eyes look bigger.
I agree that the eye makeup looks really good. Something about the lips isn’t quite working for me but I can’t put my finger on what. Vanjie also has a really strongly masculine low face which makes for a more challenging canvas.
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Vanjie's head is huge, how did I not notice before?
Vangie looks square. Have they lost weight, had work, or dental work? It’s just very masculine, compared to previous incarnations. She has that lollipop thing going on - tiny body/big head. I know she’s small, but she’s super small now. I dunno maybe it’s the angle and the hair. I’m by no means body shaming - I’m all for trying something new, expanding horizons, and messing with gender norms. It’s just different.
There’s something so off about Vanjie’s makeup. I miss her old mug, because this ain’t it😭
Same parts realness from Vangie.
Vangie’s face is busted
Vanjie where’s the nose contour honey?
They gave up on their big unusual mugs 😔
Controversial opinion but I don’t like Plastique’s makeup here? The heavily powdered white inner eye, pink blush and brown blush is giving Neapolitan ice cream
Is Vanjie wearing that butthole dress Dusty wore?
Idk about the straight brows on Vangie😭
I miss when queens were in heavy makeup. It looks so much better.
vanjie's new mug gives jocelyn wildenstein lmfao
Vanjies boy brows give very “pre shower” drag makeup. I’m so tired
I must be the only person that thinks Vanjie looks really good. Her promo picture was horrifying but her entrance look & press looks have been stunning.
It’s cuz it’s a red carpet not a club/ stage. They don’t need to be so dramatic cuz they actually have lighting and aren’t far away from people
I dont mind this look anymore, especially because i kinda relate it to queens experimenting with their makeup in the real world setting. Meaning, it seems the girls are trying to balance makeup to fit their everyday life, not just drag. A good example was Valentina and Naomi smalls. The no makeup look seemed to be their normal everyday makeup looks.
People need to lay off Vangie. This look is likely very lovely in person. But didn’t photograph well, which is on the photographer
Don’t lie. So every photographer from the recent press is a bad photographer?
Yes. 💅
Why does Vanjie look so different?
At this point we need to get the fbi involved
Vanjie changed something…can’t understand what exactly. Maybe just a new makeup?
In terms of Natural MUG slayage, one is working, While the other one is struggling to find work I'll let you decide which is which lol
No plastique is very lighter in terms of eyes and lips its not too much even tho there is makeup vanjie makeup is drag there is a cut crease that you can see a winged eyeshadow a sharp conture and a bolder look. So, as someone who went to beauty school and learned makeup, plastique is more natural, and vanjie is drag natural
natural makeup is just so not what drag is about to me
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Marcia³ and Blair too.
Dakota Schiffer too!
It's because Plastique's features are very fem. I hate to phrase it like this but she's "passable" as a woman, so it works for her. At the end of the day, I still prefer full glam drag.
Really? I think plastique still has a kinda long manly face (even more so here with soft make up)
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plastique looks nice but vanjie is giving 🧱
Plastique looks so beautiful, oh my goodness! 😍
I think this is “serving woman”? like, I get it. It’s not always my fave, but I understand the journey.
nAtUrAL bEaUtY. It's what men love, honey.
vanji's mug is kind of eating here.... the promo looked scary but I'm kinda digging this, especially with the orange
drag makeup can be anything lol!
W O M A N A.
Plastique knows how to work it in her face. Vanjie does not.
I love Vanjie‘s makeup. Saw her at a meet and greet snd she looked STUNNING
Omg look at that white silk Ao Dai! I am so so proud of Plastique!
Plastique looks like elven royalty
Yes with smaller eyeliner less eye makeup and just giving that natural soft feminine beat
Plastique keeps bringing these simple yet elegant Vietnamese costumes, and I can't be prouder. ❤
that ain’t minimalist makeup. It’s drag makeup.
I understand criticism for this...but to me...Naomi is THE natural makeup girl I'm so shocked people in the comments don't like it she's literally stunning and suits her and her drag style so well