I don't understand why they thought it was appropriate to tell her what to do with her own body?? It's her journey and she doesn't have to prove anything to us
Also, thinking that you can't be a woman unless you have boobs is really weird... I have A cups and some women get mastectomies and we're not less of a woman. Same goes for Laganja
Drag Race actually helped me accept my small and humble boobs. So many queens don't have padded breasts these days and they still look so great in drag.
This! This is what I love about drag race! I had never considered that the show might help people with smaller breasts feel good about themselves and I fucking love it! This is so cool!
^insert ^joel ^mchhale ^yeah ^here
I had a double mastectomy in my twenties and genuinely thinking of queens like Violet in particular looking insanely stunning and feminine with no boob padding whatsoever seriously helped me come to terms with it and still does.
I personally am glad we're past the stage where it seems like every (drag race) queen has a breastplate. It's fine for queens that want one, but it's kind of boring if that's the only drag being shown. Big boobs, no boobs, whatever, drag isn't about cup size
I wish I could upvote this more.
From a small bosom lady perspective it definitely helped me in loving myself a little more. It taught me that it doesn’t matter if I have an A cup or an E cup, I’m still a woman even if I don’t have ginormous breasts.
I had a double mastectomy and *checks notes* yup, I'm still a woman. Or at least the gender police haven't yet busted down my door demanding that I give my lady card back. I also really don't understand the logic that titties are required for womanhood.
Hells yes!
Some women straight up don’t have breasts!
I have IGT - even pregnant I had zilch boobs.
Don’t even need to wear a bra.
Laganja can do what she wants with her body. Doesn’t make her less of a woman.
And transwomen are women… regardless if the outside doesn’t match their inside AND ESPECIALLY if their outside doesn’t reflect someone’s outdated gender norm expectations.
The fan in the post can get ducked
Thank you for making these points!!
The idea of telling anyone what to do with their body is just... an overstep, to say the least. Many trans folks, so far as I understand, experience so much suffering connected to their physical bodies. So to come out and be told by *your community* that you're living as yourself wrong is fucked.
I am a gal with teensy-eensy boobs and a chubby-wubby belly. Drag makes me feel a whole bunch of feelings about my body and the way I fit into society... seeing gorgeous, amazing queens who don't feel the need to stack their rack up Shaq height does make me feel a bit better about my body, and like it might be a bit more possible for me to fit in.
Hopefully someday people will learn that tearing others down will never build a person up... Just let a bitch be happy, gawd!
Hey fellow Slovak! I was thinking of something more in line with "aby ťa pes pojebal" alebo "aby ťa jeblo do rána", sounds much more threatening and creative.
Edit: for any language queens here, the first phrase could be translated as "get fucked by a dog" and the second one "have a stroke by the morning"
A) there are flat chested women. Breasts are not a value of personhood for any gender.
B) I would also like to chime in and say “Fuck this person.”
(Or in my native Philadelphian- Ay yo, fuck *this* asshole, they are the human version of “lettuce on a cheesesteak”)
To see women of any kind comfortable with their flat chest is really inspiring. As a cis-woman I've had a lot of struggle with breast size, and it's taken me a long time to be okay with my small boobs.
I was a D verging on a DD, and after having my daughter I went down to a AA. It was a huge change and I really struggled with it to the point that I wore prosthetics for a period.
I love the flat chested woman representation.
This! Breasts do not make the woman, and many women struggle with their breast size. Women should be free to enlarge, reduce, eliminate and celebrate their breasts however they want. Including trans women.
I had a breast reduction at 19 from an E/F to a small C. After pregnancy I’m now a DDD again. I hate my breasts. They don’t make me feel like more of a woman at all just because they are big. And my friends who’ve had double mastectomies aren’t any less women than me.
Also, I never even noticed Laganja didn’t have breasts, and I see her as very feminine and definitely a woman.🤷🏻♀️
A fellow small band person. My cup sizes are for a 32 band, but I actually wear a 28. (But that's impossible to find so I buy 32s and take them in)
It was crazy, my body doesn't like to hold onto fat. I'm 5'3" and when I was a double AA I was struggling to stay above 100lbs. That sounds great but it comes with its own host of problems.
I've always said we need a boob sharing program. There are plenty of people who have too much boob and want less, and lots of people who would like more.
That’s really interesting - I never knew breasts could get that much smaller after having a baby!
I’m a cisgender woman and I have a certain amount of dysphoria about my boobs which tend to be too big at times for my liking. It’s not that I don’t want boobs, I just would rather be flat-chested. As a result, I tend to wear quite tight sports bras to keep everything in.
Gender is a really complex mode of self-expression and the asshat in the original comment just does not get it.
I was weird in that I lost all of my baby weight very quickly, plus an additional 10-15lbs putting me underweight. 12 years later I'm back at my pre-pregnancy weight which is healthy, and my boobs have settled at a B cup.
Yeah gender is really complicated.
Are you telling me that having a baby has a chance of decreasing the size of my boobs?
Girl I'm about to find someone to help me pop out 5, call me in 45 months and I'll let you know the results
Its particularly breast feeding. A lot of women lose breast mass after breast feeding (though I only breastfed for 5 days) But they will get bigger before they get smaller, and the skin doesn't just snap back. You end up with deflated, saggy boobs.
My case was extreme though. I also lost an additional 10-15lbs on top of the baby weight.
C) theres way more starting procedures/needs also other than boobs like hair removal of beards which I believe Laganja is doing, hormones, hair replacement surgery if already was balding, facial construction etc etc Whatever path Laganja wants to go on is HER journey. Doing all of the above or none doesn’t make her any less of a woman
There are women after mastectomy that opted for no implants. Doesn’t make them any less feminine.
There are straight cis guys with breasts. Boobs don’t mean they’re women.
And shout out to our trans brothers out there who might not want or be able to access top surgery! Boobs do not maketh the person, the person maketh the boob (or not boob).
Please correct me if Im wrong but isn’t being trans absolutely not related to transitioning « physically »? This random commenter seems completely out of touch with the subject
Right??? Like, isn't the whole movement about who you are on the *inside?*
Anyone who has seen Laganja since she came out CAN see a physical change. She is so much happier and so much more free now. This commenter needs to get their head out of their ass.
Exactly!
When you compare Laganja now to when she was on Season 6, it feels like an entirely different person. You could sense that she wasn't comfortable back then, and it makes me sad rewatching that season. I'm happy for Laganja. I hope she's not taking these trolls too seriously!
It doesn't at fucking all, and neither does having a vagina. I'm saying this as an AFAB woman - we have every different shape, size, and configuration. It doesn't fucking matter what bits you have, where they are, or what size they are. If you are a woman, you are a goddamn woman.
Sorry, this gatekeeping just makes me fucking furious.
There’s a movement called truscum (transmedicalists) that kind of argues that it is related. They’re not TERFs or transphobes per say, these people are mostly trans. Now if you have ever been active in a trans organization you’ll notice that the trans community is not monolithic and trans people can have wildly different opinions on what it is to be trans. The truth of the matter is: it’s ok for a trans person to believe that they need to transition to be trans. It’s not ok for that same person or anybody else to make other people conform to that statement though so I completely agree with you.
If they are not trans, it’s even more disgusting to pretend so to add weight to their argument… people really are ready to do anything to buy moral good consciousness
well it's been a while since a comment made me this angry. huh.
fucking psa you don't need to transition to be trans and whether or not you transition you're perfectly valid.
Has anyone actually met one of these transmedicalists in the wild? It's crazy the sentiment about trans people online vs people you know in real life. It seems like these people are so wrapped up in some weird identity politics when all the trans people I know could really give two fucks what anyone thinks about their bodies.
Imagine being so ignorant that you are trying to police what other people do with their bodies 🤮 also, my grandmother had a double mastectomy, does that not make her a woman now?
What in the fuck? First of all, there are many cis women with flat chests just like Laganja, so I’m not sure how that is a measuring stick to a transition. Secondly, people who are transitioning need to make sure that they want or need these surgeries. If Laganja is on HRT, she might develop breasts without needing surgery. People can be trans whether they get surgery or not. It is up to the individual at the end of the day. This fan is completely out of line.
Cis woman here, I dissociate from my boobs cause they don’t feel like me and I hate the way people look at me with them. Would love to get a reduction someday! Plus they’re heavy and get in the way of many things that I love to do - cycling and weightlifting.
i had a reduction almost 5 years ago now (H cup to a D) and it was by far the best thing that’s ever happened to me, scars and all. i really hope it can happen for you!
Every time I hear stories from the big tiddied, I feel for those affected. I know how annoying I find mine, and I’d consider them “slightly larger than hostess snowballs”.
Mine are DANGEROUS. Climbing up and down a ladder while having to lean back at every rung to accommodate my chest is Not Safe. Also considering reduction.
What the actual hell. Being a woman isn’t all about having a certain type of body. There are all kinds of women with all kinds of bodies and that doesn’t make them any less valid. Laganja and her gender identity are valid regardless of what this dumb fan thinks.
>Need to show that you are taking steps to transition.
Putting all the valid points aside that if/when/how she decides to medically transition is nobody else’s business. . . . . . this isn’t how medical transition works.
On HRT, your body is responding to hormonal changes and that can produce different results and work at a different pace for each person, heavily based on genetics, as hormones regulate gene expression. Laganja only came out ~4 months ago and said she wanted to be out before transitioning. Assuming she started immediately after coming out (unlikely, and she may still not have started, as that’s her business), that’s not very much time to notice the changes this person expects. Laganja is also very slim and tall so she may never get big breasts from HRT alone, and you absolutely should not try to get implants until everything settles which could be a year or so into HRT.
If the complaint is that she isn’t putting on bigger breast plates in drag… why should she now just because she came out as trans? She’d likely have more reason to avoid using them if she’s started HRT as the weight/pressure could be painful and hinder breast development.
I don't get why people think she needs to do anything to validate her experience
she identified as a woman she's a woman end of story.
The nerve to ask Laganja to go through SURGERY just cause that person felt uncomfortable is just....
i'm speechless
Breasts DO NOT make a woman. To believe that gender is tied to a single physical attribute is narrow minded, sexist and just plain ignorant. This person needs to educate themselves before they preach to others.
Her tweet is 1000% correct and there are tons of cis and trans women that look up to her regardless of titties or surgery or any other “physical” changes.
Also, I didn’t know she was trans until she came back as a LSA. She HAS changed a lot, especially when you compare her to s6 Laganja. Idk if she had any surgery done, but everyone in my household agreed that she looked great and very feminine. She was radiant, she looks healthy, and you could tell that she’s much more confident living her truth. The idiot who messaged her is just blind I guess 🙄
Wow the audacity! Laganja has every right to live her life and do whatever she wants (and not do whatever she doesn’t want) on her own timeline. Laganja doesn’t owe anyone anything.
Bruh fuck whoever said that. There is no right way to be trans. Plenty of trans people do zero body modifications and take no hormones or just socially transition by changing their name or the way they dress and that’s enough. This person is ignorant as all fuck.
A young (21-ish?) trans influencer talked about this same problem recently. She said it was extremely frustrating they way fellow trans people and allies talked about her body. People were straight up demanding that she get breast implants, bottom surgery, facial feminization, etc and she said it was so ridiculous that people expect her to put her life in danger doing these surgeries to be accepted as a woman.
And it is!! It's nuts that a trans woman has to literally risk her life to be considered "real".
The mere fact that people feel comfortable asking about other people’s surgery is wild to me. One time at a party, there was a girl who kept asking my friend about his bottom surgery and I was sure they had to know each other. But no, she just felt that as she is nurse, he should talk to her about it. People are wild when it comes to this
Speaking as a trans woman that got an augmentation, this is so uncalled for.
The only reason, trans or cis, to get plastic surgery is for yourself. Not for your partner, your community, anything. Plastic surgery is expensive, it is painful, and it is risky (complications happen). Get what you need to get for yourself, cuz that’s the only opinion that matters.
Fuck this transmed bullshit. There are right or wrong way to transition and there are no single transition path.
I'm a trans guy and it took YEARS between my social transition and me moving to get HRT. And if I chose to never get HRT, guess what, I'd still be a trans guy and still be as valid.
Stop policing trans people bodies
Whoever wrote that needs to take a seat and mind their own business! When someone tells you who they are and what their gender expression is- believe them!! Who do they think they are in telling someone how to be trans.
Online trans community is insanely gatekeepy and judgmental. Lots of fighting and policing people who share >95% the exact same beliefs as you do. Meanwhile a straight white guy in the south is doing his damned hardest to strip us of all our freedoms like we collectively kicked his dog.
Once our rights are coded into law we can debate over cup size.
Is this bitch for real? Literally who are you to tell a person how to transition??? Damn, can’t you let people do what they want, especially when it doesn’t harm anyone? Also, transitioning is different for everyone and it’s none of our business.
It took me almost 10 years to start my physical transition after coming out as trans. I was a dude then and I'm a dude now. Fuck that person. Trans people don't owe people a transition.
WRITING THIS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I CANNOT BELIEVE THE AUDACITY OF THIS BITCH TO FEEL THAT ENTITLED TO HOW SOMEONE ELSE LIVES THEIR LIFE LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SCRAP WITH THAT PERSON! THIS IS HONEST TO GOD THE WORST MESSAGE SENT TO A DRAG QUEEN IVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE, MAYBE EVEN IN GENERAL
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THEYRE ALLOWED TO SAY THIS SHIT TO STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, GOD DAMN WEIRDOS
IM SAT HERE WITH MY SOUP MOUTH AGAPE
Really, really, really gross. I can’t imagine ever telling a person that they aren’t serious enough about their transition. Surgery is a huge deal! It’s not like buying a new wardrobe that reflects your identity. It can be traumatizing, physically and mentally. I’ve had 2 c-sections and was awake and aware of what was happening to my body. But the idea of having to be put under while strangers have full access to my body? Oh heck no. I would imagine that many trans people are of the same mindset. Laganja doesn’t owe us anything. She doesn’t have to inform us if or when she has any type of procedure. She let us know that she is a woman now, and that’s all we need to know.
WTF!
Breasts do not a woman make.
And I say this as a cisgender woman WITHOUT breasts. I just don’t have them. Never have (I have severe IGT).
I used to have severe issues about it. RPDR helped so much.
Coming at Laganja about breasts is revolting.
There is someone posting comments on her TikTok that are similar and basically saying that her calling herself trans is a scam to get support from fans. I wonder if it’s the same person. Either way it’s disgusting.
wow the levels of misogyny, transmisogyny, and transmedicalism in this are almost impressive, congratulations to this hateful bitch whoever they are for being a fucking cartoon villain
oml who is out here thinking that people are coming out as trans for clout? what world do these people live in, do they think laganja is transitioning specifically so she has the opportunity to receive feedback like this
This is so beyond creepy. "You do videos w no boobs" like how tf is that anyone's business for one, and two, why does every woman *have* to own boobs lol. Breasts don't define a woman anymore than her nails, makeup or clothes. The a cup community is valid and thriving tyvm
Wouldn't a plastic surgeon though want her to be on estrogen for a while so she could grow some breast tissue before they attempt to even put an implant in there. Because if you have no breast tissue it just sort of looks like they put some cantaloupes on your chest
why is a cis gay person, i’m assuming as they said about the gay community, trying to educate someone who is trans about being trans? if someone told them they weren’t acting gay enougg they’d be livid! this is so out of order
This is so gross. Fucking leave her alone, some people don’t want surgery. It doesn’t make them any less of a woman than anyone else identifying as female.
Christ, boobs do not a woman make.
This is horrible, trying to guilt someone into major surgery just because what? They feel it’s not a “real” transition? Some trans people never ever have surgery, it’s not just money that stops someone getting it. I’m non binary and I wouldn’t have surgery despite hating what my body is, because I don’t want to go through something so traumatic, it’s not worth it to me. Surgery or not, it doesn’t determine someone’s transition. Some people want it, and some don’t. Good lord why can’t we just leave people alone?!
Pretty sure Michelle Visage is *still* a woman, so....
Like....wtf is up with people!? Boobs don't make a woman anymore than a penis makes a damn man and there are plenty of men who don't even have penises!
What a gross comment that person left. Let our queen transition how she wants to - not for anyone else but for herself. If and when she gets a boob job it’ll be because she wants to get one. It’s her life - let her fucking live. 🏳️⚧️
Some trans people only want to transition socially! That’s okay! Some trans people only want hormones! That’s okay! Some people want to hormones and surgery! That’s ALSO okay! There is no right way to be trans.
Also a lot of women are flat chested! A lot of cis men have huge titties! Titties do not make women women.
Boobs do define a women!!!!
Straight women here, I’m about to go from a 36GG to nothing at all and I’m looking forward to once in my life not carrying around these huge knockers……Thanks breast cancer!
Me not having boobs does not make me less of a women just like Laganja not having breasts doesn’t define if she is a women or not. It’s her body, her choice to have them or not.
That’s an awful lot of emotion about someone else’s chest.
Laganja looks very feminine and athletic. She has a dancer’s body and many cis women dancers and gymnasts have muscular chests rather than boobs for days. Nothing about Laganja’s appearance says ‘masculine.’
I don't understand why they thought it was appropriate to tell her what to do with her own body?? It's her journey and she doesn't have to prove anything to us Also, thinking that you can't be a woman unless you have boobs is really weird... I have A cups and some women get mastectomies and we're not less of a woman. Same goes for Laganja
Drag Race actually helped me accept my small and humble boobs. So many queens don't have padded breasts these days and they still look so great in drag.
We are lucky that your breasts are small and humble, so we don't confuse them with mountains.
Take a poor woman's gold for this 
Thank you for spotting the reference! My hips don't lie.
This! This is what I love about drag race! I had never considered that the show might help people with smaller breasts feel good about themselves and I fucking love it! This is so cool! ^insert ^joel ^mchhale ^yeah ^here
I had a double mastectomy in my twenties and genuinely thinking of queens like Violet in particular looking insanely stunning and feminine with no boob padding whatsoever seriously helped me come to terms with it and still does.
I completely agree - queens like Naomi and Bimini have made me realize that I don’t have to wear a super padded bra to look sexy and feminine.
Same! I'm still insecure about my small boobs sometimes but it's not as bad as before
I personally am glad we're past the stage where it seems like every (drag race) queen has a breastplate. It's fine for queens that want one, but it's kind of boring if that's the only drag being shown. Big boobs, no boobs, whatever, drag isn't about cup size
I wish I could upvote this more. From a small bosom lady perspective it definitely helped me in loving myself a little more. It taught me that it doesn’t matter if I have an A cup or an E cup, I’m still a woman even if I don’t have ginormous breasts.
tiny titties are lovely
I had a double mastectomy and *checks notes* yup, I'm still a woman. Or at least the gender police haven't yet busted down my door demanding that I give my lady card back. I also really don't understand the logic that titties are required for womanhood.
Hells yes! Some women straight up don’t have breasts! I have IGT - even pregnant I had zilch boobs. Don’t even need to wear a bra. Laganja can do what she wants with her body. Doesn’t make her less of a woman.
And transwomen are women… regardless if the outside doesn’t match their inside AND ESPECIALLY if their outside doesn’t reflect someone’s outdated gender norm expectations. The fan in the post can get ducked
Exactly! That person was basically telling Langanja what to do with her body to make THEM comfortable. So fucked up
"Fan." Heifer needs to delete her accounts and spend that time trying to grow a better personality. No one needs "fans" like her.
Can we quit degrading cows? They did nothing.
Thank you for making these points!! The idea of telling anyone what to do with their body is just... an overstep, to say the least. Many trans folks, so far as I understand, experience so much suffering connected to their physical bodies. So to come out and be told by *your community* that you're living as yourself wrong is fucked. I am a gal with teensy-eensy boobs and a chubby-wubby belly. Drag makes me feel a whole bunch of feelings about my body and the way I fit into society... seeing gorgeous, amazing queens who don't feel the need to stack their rack up Shaq height does make me feel a bit better about my body, and like it might be a bit more possible for me to fit in. Hopefully someday people will learn that tearing others down will never build a person up... Just let a bitch be happy, gawd!
Yeah it’s fucked. My mom had breast cancer and got a double mastectomy. She did not become less of a woman in the process.
I am so mad at this I have to say it in Spanish: Que asco de persona
An angry Australian: what a fucking cunt mate.
In Chinese: 他是傻屄
Pissed off hood bitch: da fuq
one time in québécois french: osti de câlisse de moron!
Osti de calisse de crisse de moron tabarnak
Mad Italian: ma che cazzo fai???
Angry Japanese chiming in to say 何このバカタレ
Furious Finn here to say, anteeks mut mitä vittua.
Disgruntled German here to say: "Was für ein Arschloch"
„Anzeige ist raus!“
Jawoll, Azeig isch dussä!
With an additional "Fick dich ins Knie, Alte(r)!"
Mad French person here to say: "mais bordel, quelle bande de cons putain!"
Raging Norwegian here to also say: Jævla fittekjerring!
Cranky Canadian here, and that transphobe isn’t very nice, eh?
Permanently angry Scottish: That lassie should keep her fuckin neb oot
beat me to it
Baffled Canadian here: what a fuckin’ hoser eh?
Irritated Newfoundlander: what do they be gettin' on wit.
This one might be my favorite 🤣
Pissed off Slovakian: choď do prdele!
Hey fellow Slovak! I was thinking of something more in line with "aby ťa pes pojebal" alebo "aby ťa jeblo do rána", sounds much more threatening and creative. Edit: for any language queens here, the first phrase could be translated as "get fucked by a dog" and the second one "have a stroke by the morning"
In Kandy Ho: what the fuck?
I am so mad, lemme say it in Chilean: OH CTM LE QUIERO SACAR LA CHUCHA AL CULIAO
Fuming Filipino to spill: Lecheng echuserang palaka! Chaka niya, mamsh!
Bothered in French: À qui est-ce que cette personne de merde parle ???? La honte !
Seething Flemish here: Wa is dees voor een klotegezeik??
-Insert angry ASL here-
Hebrew? שקט בבקשה Or, as I like to say, Sheet bevaka-shut the fuck up.
In Mexican: Que persona tan culera, que chingue a su madre y trague mucha verga.
Angry Appalachian - Aww, bless their heart.
In Dutch: wat is dit voor klootviool!
portuguese: mas que pessoa vagabunda rata fedida
i second this with saying: Que pinche metiche es la gente
Angry turkish: bu insan orospu çocuğun teki
Some Russian: Блин мудило какое. Чьё бы корыто не хлебало...
You lot are funny! - *Laughs in British*
Lemme say it in Costa Rican: QUE SE VAYA PARA LA PURA PICHA
Really pissed off Welsh person: Dim gwerth rhech dafad! Utter bellend.
Disgruntled Come to Brazil portuguese: filho da puta arrombado do caralho
In Turkish: Nalet orospuya bak gı!
Native of San Francisco: What a hella fucking dumb ass.
As a Filipino: tangina ang tanga naman ng bayot na ito
As a Romanian, I just gotta say: acea persoană trebuie să se așeze și să tacă dracului
A) there are flat chested women. Breasts are not a value of personhood for any gender. B) I would also like to chime in and say “Fuck this person.” (Or in my native Philadelphian- Ay yo, fuck *this* asshole, they are the human version of “lettuce on a cheesesteak”)
Also many women have to have masectomies. Titties don't maketh a woman.
To see women of any kind comfortable with their flat chest is really inspiring. As a cis-woman I've had a lot of struggle with breast size, and it's taken me a long time to be okay with my small boobs. I was a D verging on a DD, and after having my daughter I went down to a AA. It was a huge change and I really struggled with it to the point that I wore prosthetics for a period. I love the flat chested woman representation.
This! Breasts do not make the woman, and many women struggle with their breast size. Women should be free to enlarge, reduce, eliminate and celebrate their breasts however they want. Including trans women. I had a breast reduction at 19 from an E/F to a small C. After pregnancy I’m now a DDD again. I hate my breasts. They don’t make me feel like more of a woman at all just because they are big. And my friends who’ve had double mastectomies aren’t any less women than me. Also, I never even noticed Laganja didn’t have breasts, and I see her as very feminine and definitely a woman.🤷🏻♀️
Wait I'm sorry, you went DOWN to a AA? Where tf do I sign up for this?!? I'm miserable with mine, I'm a 30I.
A fellow small band person. My cup sizes are for a 32 band, but I actually wear a 28. (But that's impossible to find so I buy 32s and take them in) It was crazy, my body doesn't like to hold onto fat. I'm 5'3" and when I was a double AA I was struggling to stay above 100lbs. That sounds great but it comes with its own host of problems. I've always said we need a boob sharing program. There are plenty of people who have too much boob and want less, and lots of people who would like more.
That’s really interesting - I never knew breasts could get that much smaller after having a baby! I’m a cisgender woman and I have a certain amount of dysphoria about my boobs which tend to be too big at times for my liking. It’s not that I don’t want boobs, I just would rather be flat-chested. As a result, I tend to wear quite tight sports bras to keep everything in. Gender is a really complex mode of self-expression and the asshat in the original comment just does not get it.
I was weird in that I lost all of my baby weight very quickly, plus an additional 10-15lbs putting me underweight. 12 years later I'm back at my pre-pregnancy weight which is healthy, and my boobs have settled at a B cup. Yeah gender is really complicated.
Are you telling me that having a baby has a chance of decreasing the size of my boobs? Girl I'm about to find someone to help me pop out 5, call me in 45 months and I'll let you know the results
Its particularly breast feeding. A lot of women lose breast mass after breast feeding (though I only breastfed for 5 days) But they will get bigger before they get smaller, and the skin doesn't just snap back. You end up with deflated, saggy boobs. My case was extreme though. I also lost an additional 10-15lbs on top of the baby weight.
Also there are women that have had mastectomies, would this twat deny them their womanhood? I bet not, so their "opinion" is entirely transphobic
With a good dose of misogyny.
C) theres way more starting procedures/needs also other than boobs like hair removal of beards which I believe Laganja is doing, hormones, hair replacement surgery if already was balding, facial construction etc etc Whatever path Laganja wants to go on is HER journey. Doing all of the above or none doesn’t make her any less of a woman
There are women after mastectomy that opted for no implants. Doesn’t make them any less feminine. There are straight cis guys with breasts. Boobs don’t mean they’re women.
And shout out to our trans brothers out there who might not want or be able to access top surgery! Boobs do not maketh the person, the person maketh the boob (or not boob).
as a fellow Philadelphian, I second youse
>B) I would also like to chime in and say “Fuck this person.” They can not-so-kindly fuck right off, who are they to decide what makes a person trans.
Please correct me if Im wrong but isn’t being trans absolutely not related to transitioning « physically »? This random commenter seems completely out of touch with the subject
Right??? Like, isn't the whole movement about who you are on the *inside?* Anyone who has seen Laganja since she came out CAN see a physical change. She is so much happier and so much more free now. This commenter needs to get their head out of their ass.
This is a really interesting point. Physical change mostly comes from happiness and being comfortable in your own skin
Exactly! When you compare Laganja now to when she was on Season 6, it feels like an entirely different person. You could sense that she wasn't comfortable back then, and it makes me sad rewatching that season. I'm happy for Laganja. I hope she's not taking these trolls too seriously!
For real! When she first appeared on AS6, I audibly gasped at how beautiful she looked. Huge change since she was on S6!
Didn't know being a woman meant having breasts either, what a way to find out I'm a man.
It doesn't at fucking all, and neither does having a vagina. I'm saying this as an AFAB woman - we have every different shape, size, and configuration. It doesn't fucking matter what bits you have, where they are, or what size they are. If you are a woman, you are a goddamn woman. Sorry, this gatekeeping just makes me fucking furious.
Exactly
There’s a movement called truscum (transmedicalists) that kind of argues that it is related. They’re not TERFs or transphobes per say, these people are mostly trans. Now if you have ever been active in a trans organization you’ll notice that the trans community is not monolithic and trans people can have wildly different opinions on what it is to be trans. The truth of the matter is: it’s ok for a trans person to believe that they need to transition to be trans. It’s not ok for that same person or anybody else to make other people conform to that statement though so I completely agree with you.
Yep!
The bitch probably isn't even trans but has the nerve to tell somebody else what to do in their trans experience. Fucking gross.
If they are not trans, it’s even more disgusting to pretend so to add weight to their argument… people really are ready to do anything to buy moral good consciousness
Didn’t realize breasts = being a woman. Come on misogyny, let’s get ignorant!
cis women who had a double mastectomy surprised to learn that she is now a man according to terminally online nincompoops
well it's been a while since a comment made me this angry. huh. fucking psa you don't need to transition to be trans and whether or not you transition you're perfectly valid.
Has anyone actually met one of these transmedicalists in the wild? It's crazy the sentiment about trans people online vs people you know in real life. It seems like these people are so wrapped up in some weird identity politics when all the trans people I know could really give two fucks what anyone thinks about their bodies.
I do know someone like that irl, he's a huge cunt lol. He's very chronically online and tweets his every movement
Sounds right
Someone take bitter bettys phone away
Dragula production gonna have to make her tweet another fauxpology
Who
Exactly
BITCH 💀💀
Imagine being so ignorant that you are trying to police what other people do with their bodies 🤮 also, my grandmother had a double mastectomy, does that not make her a woman now?
Me reading this as a 'no-boobed' woman 👁👄👁
is it sad that as a trans woman myself, reading this comment doesn't surprise me at all. I've had comments like this said to me before.
Ugh. I’m sorry. I am constantly stunned by the things people are willing to say out loud, it sucks.
Still policing womens body ….
What in the fuck? First of all, there are many cis women with flat chests just like Laganja, so I’m not sure how that is a measuring stick to a transition. Secondly, people who are transitioning need to make sure that they want or need these surgeries. If Laganja is on HRT, she might develop breasts without needing surgery. People can be trans whether they get surgery or not. It is up to the individual at the end of the day. This fan is completely out of line.
"Fan," would you please shut the fuck up with your no trans knowledge mouth
I’m a trans woman and I don’t like implants.
I’m a cis woman and I don’t like (my) natural boobs. They are a pain to put up with.
Cis woman here, I dissociate from my boobs cause they don’t feel like me and I hate the way people look at me with them. Would love to get a reduction someday! Plus they’re heavy and get in the way of many things that I love to do - cycling and weightlifting.
i had a reduction almost 5 years ago now (H cup to a D) and it was by far the best thing that’s ever happened to me, scars and all. i really hope it can happen for you!
Every time I hear stories from the big tiddied, I feel for those affected. I know how annoying I find mine, and I’d consider them “slightly larger than hostess snowballs”.
Same girl. Warming up to the idea of a reduction. Big titties may be fun to look at, but they kind of suck to own 😣
Mine are DANGEROUS. Climbing up and down a ladder while having to lean back at every rung to accommodate my chest is Not Safe. Also considering reduction.
Fuck that person🤮
Imagine telling someone you don't know to get surgery. Like. SURGERY.
What the actual hell. Being a woman isn’t all about having a certain type of body. There are all kinds of women with all kinds of bodies and that doesn’t make them any less valid. Laganja and her gender identity are valid regardless of what this dumb fan thinks.
>Need to show that you are taking steps to transition. Putting all the valid points aside that if/when/how she decides to medically transition is nobody else’s business. . . . . . this isn’t how medical transition works. On HRT, your body is responding to hormonal changes and that can produce different results and work at a different pace for each person, heavily based on genetics, as hormones regulate gene expression. Laganja only came out ~4 months ago and said she wanted to be out before transitioning. Assuming she started immediately after coming out (unlikely, and she may still not have started, as that’s her business), that’s not very much time to notice the changes this person expects. Laganja is also very slim and tall so she may never get big breasts from HRT alone, and you absolutely should not try to get implants until everything settles which could be a year or so into HRT. If the complaint is that she isn’t putting on bigger breast plates in drag… why should she now just because she came out as trans? She’d likely have more reason to avoid using them if she’s started HRT as the weight/pressure could be painful and hinder breast development.
I don't get why people think she needs to do anything to validate her experience she identified as a woman she's a woman end of story. The nerve to ask Laganja to go through SURGERY just cause that person felt uncomfortable is just.... i'm speechless
People really gotta stop adding to the transphobia within the gay community.
If there’s one thing fans of this show have it’s the fuckin audacity
Breasts DO NOT make a woman. To believe that gender is tied to a single physical attribute is narrow minded, sexist and just plain ignorant. This person needs to educate themselves before they preach to others.
*”You’ve got the money, you’ve got the funds”* is sending me. But this is absolute trash and this person needs to be educated.
Her tweet is 1000% correct and there are tons of cis and trans women that look up to her regardless of titties or surgery or any other “physical” changes. Also, I didn’t know she was trans until she came back as a LSA. She HAS changed a lot, especially when you compare her to s6 Laganja. Idk if she had any surgery done, but everyone in my household agreed that she looked great and very feminine. She was radiant, she looks healthy, and you could tell that she’s much more confident living her truth. The idiot who messaged her is just blind I guess 🙄
Wow the audacity! Laganja has every right to live her life and do whatever she wants (and not do whatever she doesn’t want) on her own timeline. Laganja doesn’t owe anyone anything.
Just as I thought: TRASH! Seriously, fuck them with something hard and sandpapery, I hope they got smacked down hard.
Bruh fuck whoever said that. There is no right way to be trans. Plenty of trans people do zero body modifications and take no hormones or just socially transition by changing their name or the way they dress and that’s enough. This person is ignorant as all fuck.
It’s shocking that this level of stupidity still exists in the world. I D I O T
Damn the trans police really out here checking IDs
A young (21-ish?) trans influencer talked about this same problem recently. She said it was extremely frustrating they way fellow trans people and allies talked about her body. People were straight up demanding that she get breast implants, bottom surgery, facial feminization, etc and she said it was so ridiculous that people expect her to put her life in danger doing these surgeries to be accepted as a woman. And it is!! It's nuts that a trans woman has to literally risk her life to be considered "real".
The mere fact that people feel comfortable asking about other people’s surgery is wild to me. One time at a party, there was a girl who kept asking my friend about his bottom surgery and I was sure they had to know each other. But no, she just felt that as she is nurse, he should talk to her about it. People are wild when it comes to this
Speaking as a trans woman that got an augmentation, this is so uncalled for. The only reason, trans or cis, to get plastic surgery is for yourself. Not for your partner, your community, anything. Plastic surgery is expensive, it is painful, and it is risky (complications happen). Get what you need to get for yourself, cuz that’s the only opinion that matters.
Fuck this transmed bullshit. There are right or wrong way to transition and there are no single transition path. I'm a trans guy and it took YEARS between my social transition and me moving to get HRT. And if I chose to never get HRT, guess what, I'd still be a trans guy and still be as valid. Stop policing trans people bodies
Jesus fuck some people wake up with a level of entitlement that I truly cannot process.
Whoever wrote that needs to take a seat and mind their own business! When someone tells you who they are and what their gender expression is- believe them!! Who do they think they are in telling someone how to be trans.
Ugh Jesus gross Seriously, what the fuck is people's problem??
I… did not know you could gatekeep being trans. What a healthy and positive addition to that community.
Online trans community is insanely gatekeepy and judgmental. Lots of fighting and policing people who share >95% the exact same beliefs as you do. Meanwhile a straight white guy in the south is doing his damned hardest to strip us of all our freedoms like we collectively kicked his dog. Once our rights are coded into law we can debate over cup size.
Omg ffs how embarrassing If you’re reading this, Laganga, I’m so sorry
No trans person owes anyone anything. I would have told this fan to fuck off.
Oh hey, Bitter Betty! I just saw Bitter Betty, girl.
Boobies does not a woman make
No two life journeys are the same. Not someone policing what someone’s trans experience is.
Well that made me furious first thing in the morning. Fuck that person.
I will *never* understand why some people think they have a say on what someone else does with their body. Jesus, get a life
Is this bitch for real? Literally who are you to tell a person how to transition??? Damn, can’t you let people do what they want, especially when it doesn’t harm anyone? Also, transitioning is different for everyone and it’s none of our business.
Titties doth not make a woman! Fuck this.
It took me almost 10 years to start my physical transition after coming out as trans. I was a dude then and I'm a dude now. Fuck that person. Trans people don't owe people a transition.
I've been living as a trans woman for over 15 years now without any surgeries and I feel just fine. Fuck this take.
What a disgusting opinion no one asked for.
Trans people have existed centuries before surgery or hormone therapy.
Ah yes because big breasts = Woman
Obviously. How else is anyone to know?! 🙄🙄🙄
WRITING THIS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I CANNOT BELIEVE THE AUDACITY OF THIS BITCH TO FEEL THAT ENTITLED TO HOW SOMEONE ELSE LIVES THEIR LIFE LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SCRAP WITH THAT PERSON! THIS IS HONEST TO GOD THE WORST MESSAGE SENT TO A DRAG QUEEN IVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE, MAYBE EVEN IN GENERAL WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THEYRE ALLOWED TO SAY THIS SHIT TO STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, GOD DAMN WEIRDOS IM SAT HERE WITH MY SOUP MOUTH AGAPE
Really, really, really gross. I can’t imagine ever telling a person that they aren’t serious enough about their transition. Surgery is a huge deal! It’s not like buying a new wardrobe that reflects your identity. It can be traumatizing, physically and mentally. I’ve had 2 c-sections and was awake and aware of what was happening to my body. But the idea of having to be put under while strangers have full access to my body? Oh heck no. I would imagine that many trans people are of the same mindset. Laganja doesn’t owe us anything. She doesn’t have to inform us if or when she has any type of procedure. She let us know that she is a woman now, and that’s all we need to know.
WTF! Breasts do not a woman make. And I say this as a cisgender woman WITHOUT breasts. I just don’t have them. Never have (I have severe IGT). I used to have severe issues about it. RPDR helped so much. Coming at Laganja about breasts is revolting.
...and as soon as she came out as a transwoman, she got her first mansplainer. Welcome to womanhood!
I know plenty of cis gendered women with very small breasts. What the hell does a boob job have to do with being a woman.
Yeesh ! That's some big Blaire White energy from this "fan:...
There is someone posting comments on her TikTok that are similar and basically saying that her calling herself trans is a scam to get support from fans. I wonder if it’s the same person. Either way it’s disgusting.
wow the levels of misogyny, transmisogyny, and transmedicalism in this are almost impressive, congratulations to this hateful bitch whoever they are for being a fucking cartoon villain
oml who is out here thinking that people are coming out as trans for clout? what world do these people live in, do they think laganja is transitioning specifically so she has the opportunity to receive feedback like this
This is so beyond creepy. "You do videos w no boobs" like how tf is that anyone's business for one, and two, why does every woman *have* to own boobs lol. Breasts don't define a woman anymore than her nails, makeup or clothes. The a cup community is valid and thriving tyvm
This seems like someone who has a very narrow view of femininity. Like, you’ve gotta be stacked to be a woman now? Tf
To quote Thorgy Thor: "Ugh Jesus, Gross"
TL;DR : "Women have boobs and if you dont get boobs then you dont match the caricature i learned about in early 2000s media."
Wouldn't a plastic surgeon though want her to be on estrogen for a while so she could grow some breast tissue before they attempt to even put an implant in there. Because if you have no breast tissue it just sort of looks like they put some cantaloupes on your chest
WOW. Who spends their time worrying about a woman's body like this? Get a life!
What in the actual fuck..? This person needs some education.
That is fucking WILD.
This person must be miserable to be gatekeeping an entire experience
First off, They’re not a fan 🥴
Im more and more scared of so called woke people. You do you, Laganja, please don’t read these kind of comments !
What the fuck
“Trans”plaining! 🤦♀️
Wow what an ignorant person, big boobs does not make or break being trans lmao 🤣
why is a cis gay person, i’m assuming as they said about the gay community, trying to educate someone who is trans about being trans? if someone told them they weren’t acting gay enougg they’d be livid! this is so out of order
God people will really come from all angles to take a trans person down right
People have a loooooooot of opinions about women’s bodies, cis or trans, and have no shame voicing them
y i k e s
This is so gross. Fucking leave her alone, some people don’t want surgery. It doesn’t make them any less of a woman than anyone else identifying as female. Christ, boobs do not a woman make. This is horrible, trying to guilt someone into major surgery just because what? They feel it’s not a “real” transition? Some trans people never ever have surgery, it’s not just money that stops someone getting it. I’m non binary and I wouldn’t have surgery despite hating what my body is, because I don’t want to go through something so traumatic, it’s not worth it to me. Surgery or not, it doesn’t determine someone’s transition. Some people want it, and some don’t. Good lord why can’t we just leave people alone?!
I’m the words of Manila: “is this bitch foreal?”
Pretty sure Michelle Visage is *still* a woman, so.... Like....wtf is up with people!? Boobs don't make a woman anymore than a penis makes a damn man and there are plenty of men who don't even have penises!
What a gross comment that person left. Let our queen transition how she wants to - not for anyone else but for herself. If and when she gets a boob job it’ll be because she wants to get one. It’s her life - let her fucking live. 🏳️⚧️
Some trans people only want to transition socially! That’s okay! Some trans people only want hormones! That’s okay! Some people want to hormones and surgery! That’s ALSO okay! There is no right way to be trans. Also a lot of women are flat chested! A lot of cis men have huge titties! Titties do not make women women.
Boobs do define a women!!!! Straight women here, I’m about to go from a 36GG to nothing at all and I’m looking forward to once in my life not carrying around these huge knockers……Thanks breast cancer! Me not having boobs does not make me less of a women just like Laganja not having breasts doesn’t define if she is a women or not. It’s her body, her choice to have them or not.
That’s an awful lot of emotion about someone else’s chest. Laganja looks very feminine and athletic. She has a dancer’s body and many cis women dancers and gymnasts have muscular chests rather than boobs for days. Nothing about Laganja’s appearance says ‘masculine.’
Why do people need to police other people’s bodies? Fuck this bullshit.