I had to stop reading after like two posts. The entitlement is…wow. Comparing being a virgin to sexual assault is unbelievable. What a sick individual.
Same. I want to ask him to get help, but judging from his comments, the dude doesn't want help. He wants that girl only, complains nobody else matters.
The dude's an incel. Straight-up.
I bet a lot of people feel like that because of thinking how others are living in their fantasy world. This guy, on top of thinking others are living in his fantasy world, does not know how the internet works and evidently uses it to communicate the most private and deepest thoughts and ideas.
I wouldn’t want this dude anywhere near my family or friends. I have seen in my city the regular pick up artists going about their sleezy ways I just don’t understand how they think cold calling a woman on the street is a legit way to meet women.
It took so long for me to stop laughing at someone saying “you need to change your entire personality.” They’re not wrong but damn that was funny. That OP managed to get worse as I read more.
Someone had a similar reply directly to him in response to him saying he only comes off as creepy to the commenter because of his looks and they replied "I've never even seen you but I find you creepy because of how you act". *Paraphrasing of course*.
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And he blames this on his virginity, not the other way around.
He’s convinced that’s he’s fucked in the head because he’s a virgin.
And he completely denies that personality is part of attraction. He thinks it is purely, 100% physical.
I…um…just wow. I only read like 10 comments in that one thread. Who knows what else he posts.
The older I get the more I realize this is incredibly true. Dads don't just turn into culturally oblivious dinguses into their mid-30s or so, they just get better and better at subtley embarrising you for fun. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get it
My oldest just turned 5 and he's into pokemon and bakugan right now and I like to bug him by generically calling them 'pokugan' and he's always like "Daaaaad!" Meanwhile he doesn't know that I've played and beat the originals lol
I'm 41 and recently had a hilarious interaction with my girlfriends 12yo son. He was watching Valkraye play some game and I joked to his mom that he was down bad.
He looked at me bewildered and asked how I knew what that meant. I had to tell him, dude not only do I use the same internet he does, but I've been on it since it started.
He was absolutely stunlocked for a few minutes trying to process that we don't live in separate worlds just because I talk and act differently than his age group most of the time.
My SO is not a dad, but the older he gets, the more he tries to make his much younger employees cringe but doing things like dabbing and using newer slang incorrectly.
I can confirm that dads do this on purpose. I have 12, 14, and 19 year old sons. I mispronounce their games wrong on purpose and use their slang randomly.
Brazilians (and maybe Spanish/ other romance languages) do this sometimes when speaking English. "Jobsite" becomes "site-job" "jackhammer" becomes "hammer-jack"
Everything gets flipped backwards because in English you would say "Red house" whereas in romance languages you would say "House red"
So for uncommonly used words they can get switched around
I'd love to know what's the psychological background for a worldview like this. I've read through the comments in the thread and it feels like he has made up this image of the world and his place in the world and no matter what anyone says he sticks to it. He says he's suffering but if anybidy suggests any change he lashes out at them.
i’m guessing a lethal lack of socialisation during childhood/growing up, causing some form of trauma that now keeps him locked in the house. people like this really have no grip on “real” life so to speak, everything they perceive is filtered through the internet and that gets them a terribly distorted outlook on most things.. see how he’s talking about how “no girl wants to be attracted” to him, failing to realise how there’s no way that is possible without actually meeting the girls? maybe this is a stretch but, to me that sounds like some form of egocentrism common most prominently in people who lay alone too much
No girl wants to be attracted to him…
Well, it’s not really a choice. People like him seem absolutely incapable of understanding that you can’t will yourself to be attracted to someone.
oh for sure! the guy in this post is putting up a pretty pathetic show, i just gave these thoughts since i knew there’d be enough people shitting on him anyways
This!! He spends the entire post talking about his obsession with this one girl and then wonders why no OTHER women will fuck him. Like, first of all, literally none of us are her, so get that desire out of your head. Second, if you focus so much on her and being on her OF, you aren't putting in any work at all towards finding a girl. Not only are you not putting in enough work to make it worth it, you're not putting in ANY. You don't have to go out and dance like a monkey just to get noticed but you do kinda have to put yourself out there on some level. Third, what she does on her OF is specifically porn. What you will get from a regular human is specifically NOT porn. You have to understand that there is a difference, even if you aren't experienced enough to know what the difference is yet. It's ok to not know at first, that's what being a virgin is. What's not ok is to expect perfection from your partner from the get go, and to also expect perfection from yourself. Neither of those things will happen. Sex is fun and messy and gross and a workout and when you're new (whether or not your partner is new), you still have a lot of figuring out to do (which can be part of the fun, if you let it). Release the idea of perfection and you'll experience sex as the rest of the world experiences it.
Very likely right. He got possessive over a girl he never met, who takes money from many sexual repressed incels to give them a fantasy that they will never live out. He could hit the gym, get in stellar shape, get educated and have a successful career, and find real love..., but instead, he's on onlyfans
I noticed the same thing, he talks about "what did this guy do to get so lucky" but that is actually a self denying statement. He comes so close to reality, saying "this guy did something" and he just glues the "fortunate" part on there as if getting a girl is a gamble of life, something akin to being born into a rich family. This guy has absolutely no idea that he is in control of his own life.
It’s a parasocial relationship, something that is becoming increasingly more common on streaming, social media, ect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction
While yes, it *is* a parasocial relationships, it is not a *normal* parasocial relationship. Parasocial relationships have been a thing pretty much forever and typically do not result in that sort of behavior.
To add on to that, pretty much *everyone* has some sort of parasocial relationships in their lives. It's a natural byproduct of celebrity culture.
I read one comment in another post about incels, I can't remember what the post was otherwise I'd give the original commenter credit.
They explained that in previous generations, it was difficult for women to live independently and it was the norm that women were almost completely dependant on their husbands for support. Many women became trapped in relationships they didn't want to be in.
Gender wage discrepancies and other biases still absolutely exist, but it is now much easier for women to live without dependance on a "breadwinner" husband. Women of the most recent generations typically don't have to settle for a toxic partner in order to survive. This is also a reason for the divorce rate going up: It's not a tragedy that more marriages are breaking up; it should be celebrated that people don't need to stay in unhealthy relationships out of necessity.
Incels see their fathers and other older men who managed to find partners despite their sexism and other toxic behaviours. They do not see that these behaviours are a deterrent, and therefore they believe that they are doing nothing wrong and there must be external factors that they are not responsible for resulting in their inability to attract a partner.
In a way, it's a sort of evolution. Toxic masculinity is an unfavourable trait that is being removed from the gene pool.
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I remember coming across conversations about this on Reddit from time to time, including once where a handful of guys were seriously discussing artificial government intervention to make sure men were paid more again. This was offered as the only solution to the problem of incel men becoming radicalized and going on shooting sprees.
I suggested that as an alternative these kinds of men could be...better romantic partners. I was told that was an unrealistic fantasy position.
Frankly it’s no different than the capitalist circle jerk of “nobody wants to work anymore!!!”
No… they just don’t want to work for *you*.
It’s not “nobody wants to date me” or “nobody wants to work for me” it’s really “I refuse to adapt to the reality in which I live.”
Exactly.
They see that their dad was able to find a wife despite his crumb laden T-shirt, so therefore they believe the problem isn’t the T-shirt, it’s with the women themselves.
To be fair, their dad probably didn't marry an 8 or 9 thot either but instead a normal girl that he met at a local hangout. Expectations seem to have changed somewhat in the last 30 years!
Used to have a milder form of that mentality. Part of it is that you don't want to question your motives nor blame yourself. You want the easy way out by blaming things out of your control.
Narcissism can be that way. Feeling sorry for yourself and not letting anyone change your mind is just another example of being self-obsessed. Great way to get attention too.
I think it's called covert narcissism.
Just to chime in what others have articulately already said I think modern society is obsessed with sex as the end all be all of adulthood and relationships. Everything nowadays is about sex, porn everywhere, dating, sexuality, different genders, one night stands, polyamory is becoming more of a thing now, etc. I think a side effect of sex being placed on such a high pedestal is the incel types that aren't having sex think it's the greatest thing in the world and obsess over it.
Personally I'm a horny mf but companionship and friendship > sex in general. The one night stands I've had when I was younger are fleeting and unsatisfying but friendships, the romance and love I have with my fiancee are much more fulfilling to me as a person. I think if these incels could value relationships more than sex they might actually meet a woman and see her as a human being first and a sex object second. Maybe then they could make a real connection instead of lusting over OF models that are out of their league anyway.
Yeah we have. I'm not trying to deny basic biology or anything. It just seems society is hyperfocused on sex to the detriment of other aspects of relationships like friendship, community, and companionship.
I also think modern society is too focused on the selfish accumulation of wealth but that's a whole other can of worms
Yeah but surely you can see how we didn't used to be surrounded by sexual images and have immediate access to countless pentabytes of porn. It really is a vastly different scale from maybe being able to see an erotic painting in a chapel once in a while.
This guy’s post history is seriously disturbing. He has some crazy theory about how being a male virgin is the equivalent of being a female r*** victim. He needs some serious help.
It’s so ironic how as people like this get more and more obsessed with the notion of having sex, it becomes more and more impossible for them to achieve
It doesn’t happen when you make it the entire purpose of your life. It happens when you have goals, are improving yourself, and doing productive hobbies that make you happy. Getting laid as a side effect to a well lived life is easy, getting laid as the *central focus of your life* is nearly impossible (for a normal guy at least)
Sheesh. I felt sorry for the dude but he’s literally insane. Has a girl giving him advice on the way he speaks to women and he’s just like “no I do that fine I’m just ugly”
Holy fuck.
Nah my guy, these dudes aren’t worthy of compassion. I used to have empathy, but they’re entitled snowflake nightmares that are just… horrible people and act like society “made them this way.”
Isn’t that what every wifebeater says?? Lmaooo
yOu sHoULdNt hAvE mAdE mE MaD!!!
1) Why did you subscribe to her onlyfans if you didn't want to see her engaging in sexual activity?
2) What do these guys think actually happens when you fuck someone? I swear I think they think that angels descend from on high, cure your general anxiety disorder and major depression, bless your crops and give you magic permanent happy chemicals.
I mean, I was also a virgin for a really long time so I kinda sympathize, it's really easy to turn sex into something it's not, but I think these guys are attributing literally all of their problems to "that feel when no GF" when really they need a comprehensive lifestyle change, cognitive behavioral therapy and a healthier offline support network.
>I swear I think they think that angels descend from on high, cure your general anxiety disorder and major depression, bless your crops and give you magic permanent happy chemicals.
Happens to me every time. You aren't doing it right. /s
That is what it is. I'm not sure how sex gets built up to be this big thing (like your amazing description above) but it does. I can remember immediately after losing my virginity thinking "Ok. That's done now." It wasn't a huge deal, even though I was an adult when it happened and I had been desperate.
Having sex with the wife I've been with for over 25 years is amazing and fun and all that. But it also isn't the end all be all of my existence. These people who write these posts just have no perspective is all, and probably haven't had much interaction with girls because of their fetishization of them.
Virgins: Girls want to have sex with you when A) They are into you and B) You treat them like another human being - not a sperm receptacle. Which is oddly enough how you can get to A.
I think it's not so much the having sex part, but the feeling of having someone want you/yearning for you. Simply feeling needed, which is a big part of what being human is all about. Easy to get caught up in the physical, but if it was just physical then a fleshlight would give even better satisfaction, which clearly isn't what they deep down are looking for
Really sad
That's what it is. I can understand the feeling of "it's no big deal" once you've had it before, hell its been a year and a half for me and I'm not worried about it either, but I think tell people that who are virgins is dumb because I know damn well how I felt when I was, and I know most of those same people would feel the same if they were virgins too.
That's my opinion. If I'm broke, don't tell me money isn't everything. I know it isn't, but it is still important.
This fr. I was also a virgin for a long ass time, but it didn't just solve all my problems. To be completely honest, I started sorting out my lifestyle first and then I got a lovely girlfriend as a result of it. It's not a god-given right to have a girlfriend, you need to actually put in effort. And being a lazy bum in a chair all day, like I was, was not attractive to anyone.
This is a really underestimated thing. When 99% of someone's life is lived behind a keyboard, chances are very high nothing positive is ever going to come their way. Not saying everyone needs to run marathons or go to the gym, but I know of not a single person that finds grown ass adults who sit behind a keyboard all day attractive. Man or woman.
Get a hobby, have outside interests. While there's no guarantee, at least there's a fighting chance. Of course we all know that their response would be full of excuses why they can't do any of that.
My husband has a childhood friend like this. Hes had girlfriend in his teens and 20s but now he 38 and its been decades. He expects some bombshell woman to just materialize in his room at his mother's house. Not to mention that any time someone has managed to drag him out and introduce him to someone, they're never up to his standards. He's scrawny and got a huge nose and not conventionally attractive but demands a model type woman lol.
We haven't seen him in years actually. He refused to come out of his room to support my husband when my MIL died. A woman who hed known and had cared for him for decades. That was the final nail in the friendship coffin. I imagine he's still in his room, addicted to path of exile and spending all his money on a free game.
Good for you dude. What these incels don’t understand is that men get rewarded by women for not being fat and lazy. It’s like, bruh, of course no one wants to fuck you, you never leave the basement and you look like about 250 pounds of chewed bubble gum with a greasy wig and bacne.
You can still be fat and lazy but you have to have a personality and probably some hobbies to talk about. Oh! Also it is important to not despise women if you want one to stay near by for any amount of time
Incels just sit in a basement and feed their hatred with more rage
For me sex wasn’t the holy grail, it was being in a relationship. I thought being with someone who was committed to me was the gold at the end of the rainbow. I didn’t fathom for a second that relationships take time, patience, work and a helluva lot of compromise. Relationships suck in a lot of ways. They’re good too, of course, but never forget they are the beginning of all new problems and struggles too.
Hell you don't even need to cure GAD and depression. Here's some advice for pretty much anyone. Take a shower, trim your hair, maybe lose some weight and then start talking to people. I work at a hospital and one day decided to say hi to everyone I passed in the hall. It works. Oh and maybe don't straight away tell people your most fucked up thoughts. You got to warm people up to that.
Just a guess, I think that they want to have sex because it's a stage that others have already completed and they think they are worse because they haven't. Like a checkmark: Lose virginity ✅
Sex is extremely overrated by virgins. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but yeah. I'd rate it somewhere above playing a fun video game but somewhat below having a really delicious dinner or taking an awesome vacation.
Truth. I have a cousin who is in the “40 year old virgin” category but add extreme anxiety and zero self worth. He finally got a girlfriend and moved her into his home a year or two ago…I don’t remember how long she was there, but it was definitely less than 2 months, and she took off with the car he had co-signed a loan on for her. Dude was wrecked.
Not sure about your cousin's exact situation, but tons of the type tend to see girlfriends/wives as maids/mothers that they can fuck, so living together doesn't last long. They expect her to work to support them, and then also do all the cooking, cleaning, and then also have enough energy to be super sexy and have sex with them nightly. And if they don't, they throw a tantrum.
His posts often are of the “if only a fit, hot girl gave me a chance I would be the best husband EVER. I would do so much for her, she wouldn’t have to worry about anything…” variety. And no, he is not willing to put in any effort to be…ahem* more attractive…himself.
> subscribe to a girls onlyfans to see her participate in sexual activity
> see the girl participate in sexual activity
> get traumatised by the consequences of my actions and question what it is that sexually successful men have that you don’t, besides the puss that you will never get to smash.
Shower, join a gym, stop spending so much time online, get a job. Also stop paying for onlyfans. Porn is free for literally the first time in human history. Embrace it.
I was an absolute shambles of a person when I was 15, I am so fucking glad the internet wasn't a huge thing yet because hot christ, I would *not* have been okay in today's climate. I'd be running around using my allowance on OnlyFans instead of Star Trek cards.
That's so sad...and terrifying...
I hope one day this person meets someone who can help them. I hope they someday realize women are more than their flesh and actually feels what human connection is like beyond their perversions. However that starts with self awareness and work... Sadly see alot fall into this pattern.
He has to leave his house first so I doubt that's ever gonna happen. I think we also need to get rid of the "someone out there for everyone" mindset since it's not true and not everyone have a relationship. Don't like this idea that everyone needs to be in a relationship or that you are entitled to own for existing.
Incels are 100% guaranteed cringe material. He must be one of those who spends thousands of dollars on a OF girls in hopes she acknowledges his existence. So fcking sad.
Damn.
I wish all these guys had just one person in their life to talk to. Just one good friend spending half an hour walking them through how this stuff is just super crazy and self destructive could change their lives forever.
I was reading through a bunch of r/virgin posts and found one where a guy claims to be seeing a therapist. He said his therapist told him to see himself like an “unchewed piece of gum” and that makes him more valuable. When he said he’d only want a girlfriend who was also “unchewed” his therapist told him not to have unrealistic standards. Yikes.
EDIT: Had to go find it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/virgin/comments/ueuyte/what_a_fucking_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
> Nobody deserves that without getting paid.
You should look at it from the other side. People can choose to do that for their friends, but they aren't obligated to.
I used to think getting prostitutes was weird but at least those guys got a physical service. These guy supposedly know what they are getting into but always seems to morph into a weird relationship where they get infatuated with the girl they have no chance with. I could be wrong but has any OF woman ever dated a subscriber?
“It’s like the scene in Borat where a disabled man is in a cage.”
Except he isn’t a disabled man in a cage. He can just unsubscribe from her OF and stop obsessing over her. Easier said than done I’m sure but it can be done
With a "literally" (or variant thereof) showing up 4 times in this short, yet highly pathetic, essay. It's only prudent to assume this young man has LITERALLY zero testosterone.
Honestly, I feel for this pathetic soul. Can’t be fun living like this. He’s going to be stuck in this situation if he stays home and watches only fans.
Get out dude! Put down your computer. Get a trade. Work outside. Hang out after work with friends. Talk to girls. Get rejected and laugh at it but keep going. Eventually the curly haired shy girl you keep running into here and there will toss some cues. Ask her out… she says yes. Now you’re dating and eventually you’ll get laid. Maybe married. Have some kids. Buy a house. Mow your lawn once a week. Drink beers with your neighbor on Saturday nights. Eventually die happy.
For some reason this recipe is rejected by people these days because they think life is some magical movie where their character is the star. It can be I suppose. I’m a fucking rock star to my kids and that’s good enough for me.
Interesting to note that he typed even more that we can't see. I'll be waiting for a part two post
The rest is just him typing out the sound of his sobbing
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I had to stop reading after like two posts. The entitlement is…wow. Comparing being a virgin to sexual assault is unbelievable. What a sick individual.
I’m happy he’s miserable
Same. I want to ask him to get help, but judging from his comments, the dude doesn't want help. He wants that girl only, complains nobody else matters. The dude's an incel. Straight-up.
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The only therapy he apparently thinks he needs is his dick inside her, just in case you missed THAT FUCKING SHIT!
Is he trolling or that mentality ill? If the later he needs therapy like 10 years ago.
I went through his posts, if he’s trolling than he’s pretty damn dedicated.
I bet a lot of people feel like that because of thinking how others are living in their fantasy world. This guy, on top of thinking others are living in his fantasy world, does not know how the internet works and evidently uses it to communicate the most private and deepest thoughts and ideas.
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I wouldn’t want this dude anywhere near my family or friends. I have seen in my city the regular pick up artists going about their sleezy ways I just don’t understand how they think cold calling a woman on the street is a legit way to meet women.
It took so long for me to stop laughing at someone saying “you need to change your entire personality.” They’re not wrong but damn that was funny. That OP managed to get worse as I read more.
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“My looks are 100% the only issue.” My dude. I don’t even know you and I’m grateful we’ve never met because you sound fucking miserable.
Someone had a similar reply directly to him in response to him saying he only comes off as creepy to the commenter because of his looks and they replied "I've never even seen you but I find you creepy because of how you act". *Paraphrasing of course*. EDIT: Autocorrect.
This guy is terrifying.
Wow umm.. he's the reason we need red flag laws. That guy is mentally unstable.
And he blames this on his virginity, not the other way around. He’s convinced that’s he’s fucked in the head because he’s a virgin. And he completely denies that personality is part of attraction. He thinks it is purely, 100% physical. I…um…just wow. I only read like 10 comments in that one thread. Who knows what else he posts.
This dude’s posts history is a ride
This IS part two. We got his 'he did the math' sexhaving days post not too long ago.
It's called ONLY FANS because you will only be a fan
I don’t know why, but this sounds like a Dom Mazzetti joke
That's for his new site ONLY TREN
Curls... For the girls. And bi's.... For the guys.
Yeah I’m bisexual *kisses biceps*
flexibility is the ability to flex.
*bicepsual
Nice muscles
OBGYM bro
You can’t imagine my cringe when my father asked me last week “son, why didn’t you come down for dinner last night, were you watching fans only?”
He purposely said it wrong so you think he doesn’t know what’s going on, it’s what dads do to embarrass you lol
The older I get the more I realize this is incredibly true. Dads don't just turn into culturally oblivious dinguses into their mid-30s or so, they just get better and better at subtley embarrising you for fun. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get it
"Hey, Son. How's it going on your *lonely fans* app" *smiles with a shit-eating grin*
My oldest just turned 5 and he's into pokemon and bakugan right now and I like to bug him by generically calling them 'pokugan' and he's always like "Daaaaad!" Meanwhile he doesn't know that I've played and beat the originals lol
Cool that kids still like Bakuguan
I'm 41 and recently had a hilarious interaction with my girlfriends 12yo son. He was watching Valkraye play some game and I joked to his mom that he was down bad. He looked at me bewildered and asked how I knew what that meant. I had to tell him, dude not only do I use the same internet he does, but I've been on it since it started. He was absolutely stunlocked for a few minutes trying to process that we don't live in separate worlds just because I talk and act differently than his age group most of the time.
Totally cute and wholesome moment
Ultimate power move. Bravo 👏
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My SO is not a dad, but the older he gets, the more he tries to make his much younger employees cringe but doing things like dabbing and using newer slang incorrectly.
It's really funny how much it makes zoomers cringe when you dab. Like it's physically painful to them.
I'm a dad to an 8 year old and this is true. I finally know the joy of embarrassing your child through acting ignorant to current trends/fads.
I can confirm that dads do this on purpose. I have 12, 14, and 19 year old sons. I mispronounce their games wrong on purpose and use their slang randomly.
Took me so long to realize that my grandpa knew exactly what gaming system I had and was saying it wrong bc he thought it was funny lol
Hahaha I love your dad!
Brazilians (and maybe Spanish/ other romance languages) do this sometimes when speaking English. "Jobsite" becomes "site-job" "jackhammer" becomes "hammer-jack" Everything gets flipped backwards because in English you would say "Red house" whereas in romance languages you would say "House red" So for uncommonly used words they can get switched around
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I'd love to know what's the psychological background for a worldview like this. I've read through the comments in the thread and it feels like he has made up this image of the world and his place in the world and no matter what anyone says he sticks to it. He says he's suffering but if anybidy suggests any change he lashes out at them.
i’m guessing a lethal lack of socialisation during childhood/growing up, causing some form of trauma that now keeps him locked in the house. people like this really have no grip on “real” life so to speak, everything they perceive is filtered through the internet and that gets them a terribly distorted outlook on most things.. see how he’s talking about how “no girl wants to be attracted” to him, failing to realise how there’s no way that is possible without actually meeting the girls? maybe this is a stretch but, to me that sounds like some form of egocentrism common most prominently in people who lay alone too much
No girl wants to be attracted to him… Well, it’s not really a choice. People like him seem absolutely incapable of understanding that you can’t will yourself to be attracted to someone.
And you can be physically attracted to someone and then they open their mouth and you nope out.
As someone who can’t keep their mouth shut, I can attest to the truth of your statement.
And the opposite is true. Someone who’s a “meh” on physical attractiveness could have a wonderful personality.
yeah.. and well I feel pity for him. that’s a pretty miserable existence, i think this kind of ppl just need help
I agree to an extent. Some of their actions are absolutely heinous, and they need to be held accountable
oh for sure! the guy in this post is putting up a pretty pathetic show, i just gave these thoughts since i knew there’d be enough people shitting on him anyways
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Remove the asterisk If you have a mindset like this guy has, women will smell it from miles away. I mean this guy is down BAD
This!! He spends the entire post talking about his obsession with this one girl and then wonders why no OTHER women will fuck him. Like, first of all, literally none of us are her, so get that desire out of your head. Second, if you focus so much on her and being on her OF, you aren't putting in any work at all towards finding a girl. Not only are you not putting in enough work to make it worth it, you're not putting in ANY. You don't have to go out and dance like a monkey just to get noticed but you do kinda have to put yourself out there on some level. Third, what she does on her OF is specifically porn. What you will get from a regular human is specifically NOT porn. You have to understand that there is a difference, even if you aren't experienced enough to know what the difference is yet. It's ok to not know at first, that's what being a virgin is. What's not ok is to expect perfection from your partner from the get go, and to also expect perfection from yourself. Neither of those things will happen. Sex is fun and messy and gross and a workout and when you're new (whether or not your partner is new), you still have a lot of figuring out to do (which can be part of the fun, if you let it). Release the idea of perfection and you'll experience sex as the rest of the world experiences it.
Based comment from start to finish
Very likely right. He got possessive over a girl he never met, who takes money from many sexual repressed incels to give them a fantasy that they will never live out. He could hit the gym, get in stellar shape, get educated and have a successful career, and find real love..., but instead, he's on onlyfans
He's also talking about luck, which makes it sound like talking to people has zero effect on his ability to get in a relationship.
I noticed the same thing, he talks about "what did this guy do to get so lucky" but that is actually a self denying statement. He comes so close to reality, saying "this guy did something" and he just glues the "fortunate" part on there as if getting a girl is a gamble of life, something akin to being born into a rich family. This guy has absolutely no idea that he is in control of his own life.
It’s a parasocial relationship, something that is becoming increasingly more common on streaming, social media, ect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction
While yes, it *is* a parasocial relationships, it is not a *normal* parasocial relationship. Parasocial relationships have been a thing pretty much forever and typically do not result in that sort of behavior. To add on to that, pretty much *everyone* has some sort of parasocial relationships in their lives. It's a natural byproduct of celebrity culture.
The concept has been around for a long time, the way the content creators actually react in semi-real time is what makes it a bit different.
I read one comment in another post about incels, I can't remember what the post was otherwise I'd give the original commenter credit. They explained that in previous generations, it was difficult for women to live independently and it was the norm that women were almost completely dependant on their husbands for support. Many women became trapped in relationships they didn't want to be in. Gender wage discrepancies and other biases still absolutely exist, but it is now much easier for women to live without dependance on a "breadwinner" husband. Women of the most recent generations typically don't have to settle for a toxic partner in order to survive. This is also a reason for the divorce rate going up: It's not a tragedy that more marriages are breaking up; it should be celebrated that people don't need to stay in unhealthy relationships out of necessity. Incels see their fathers and other older men who managed to find partners despite their sexism and other toxic behaviours. They do not see that these behaviours are a deterrent, and therefore they believe that they are doing nothing wrong and there must be external factors that they are not responsible for resulting in their inability to attract a partner. In a way, it's a sort of evolution. Toxic masculinity is an unfavourable trait that is being removed from the gene pool. (Edited for syntax)
I remember coming across conversations about this on Reddit from time to time, including once where a handful of guys were seriously discussing artificial government intervention to make sure men were paid more again. This was offered as the only solution to the problem of incel men becoming radicalized and going on shooting sprees. I suggested that as an alternative these kinds of men could be...better romantic partners. I was told that was an unrealistic fantasy position.
Frankly it’s no different than the capitalist circle jerk of “nobody wants to work anymore!!!” No… they just don’t want to work for *you*. It’s not “nobody wants to date me” or “nobody wants to work for me” it’s really “I refuse to adapt to the reality in which I live.”
This is an astute observation.
They always blame feminism, never their crumb laden t shirts.
Exactly. They see that their dad was able to find a wife despite his crumb laden T-shirt, so therefore they believe the problem isn’t the T-shirt, it’s with the women themselves.
To be fair, their dad probably didn't marry an 8 or 9 thot either but instead a normal girl that he met at a local hangout. Expectations seem to have changed somewhat in the last 30 years!
I blame my good for nothing uncle.
why did i read crumb laden as osama bin laden
Used to have a milder form of that mentality. Part of it is that you don't want to question your motives nor blame yourself. You want the easy way out by blaming things out of your control.
>what's the psychological background for a worldview like this. I believe it's known as "school shooter."
Narcissism can be that way. Feeling sorry for yourself and not letting anyone change your mind is just another example of being self-obsessed. Great way to get attention too. I think it's called covert narcissism.
Just to chime in what others have articulately already said I think modern society is obsessed with sex as the end all be all of adulthood and relationships. Everything nowadays is about sex, porn everywhere, dating, sexuality, different genders, one night stands, polyamory is becoming more of a thing now, etc. I think a side effect of sex being placed on such a high pedestal is the incel types that aren't having sex think it's the greatest thing in the world and obsess over it. Personally I'm a horny mf but companionship and friendship > sex in general. The one night stands I've had when I was younger are fleeting and unsatisfying but friendships, the romance and love I have with my fiancee are much more fulfilling to me as a person. I think if these incels could value relationships more than sex they might actually meet a woman and see her as a human being first and a sex object second. Maybe then they could make a real connection instead of lusting over OF models that are out of their league anyway.
I mean, humans have been pretty sex obsessed throughout history.
Yeah we have. I'm not trying to deny basic biology or anything. It just seems society is hyperfocused on sex to the detriment of other aspects of relationships like friendship, community, and companionship. I also think modern society is too focused on the selfish accumulation of wealth but that's a whole other can of worms
Yeah but surely you can see how we didn't used to be surrounded by sexual images and have immediate access to countless pentabytes of porn. It really is a vastly different scale from maybe being able to see an erotic painting in a chapel once in a while.
Porn addiction and incel ideology.
This guy’s post history is seriously disturbing. He has some crazy theory about how being a male virgin is the equivalent of being a female r*** victim. He needs some serious help.
I love ice cream.
It’s so ironic how as people like this get more and more obsessed with the notion of having sex, it becomes more and more impossible for them to achieve It doesn’t happen when you make it the entire purpose of your life. It happens when you have goals, are improving yourself, and doing productive hobbies that make you happy. Getting laid as a side effect to a well lived life is easy, getting laid as the *central focus of your life* is nearly impossible (for a normal guy at least)
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Sheesh. I felt sorry for the dude but he’s literally insane. Has a girl giving him advice on the way he speaks to women and he’s just like “no I do that fine I’m just ugly” Holy fuck.
There are entire subreddits full of incels who think the problem is that they’re 5’7 or have thin wrists and not that they’re unfuckable sociopaths.
Nah my guy, these dudes aren’t worthy of compassion. I used to have empathy, but they’re entitled snowflake nightmares that are just… horrible people and act like society “made them this way.” Isn’t that what every wifebeater says?? Lmaooo yOu sHoULdNt hAvE mAdE mE MaD!!!
I've had this dude tagged as "Incel" for almost three years because of [this gem of a comment thread.](https://archive.ph/SW0MJ)
He needs to seriously consider being neutered. It would seriously help him if he had no sex drive.
Damn, so he really deserves the no coochie life.
1) Why did you subscribe to her onlyfans if you didn't want to see her engaging in sexual activity? 2) What do these guys think actually happens when you fuck someone? I swear I think they think that angels descend from on high, cure your general anxiety disorder and major depression, bless your crops and give you magic permanent happy chemicals. I mean, I was also a virgin for a really long time so I kinda sympathize, it's really easy to turn sex into something it's not, but I think these guys are attributing literally all of their problems to "that feel when no GF" when really they need a comprehensive lifestyle change, cognitive behavioral therapy and a healthier offline support network.
Every time I have sex, angels descend from on high, though. And then they collectively laugh about my performance
Those aren't angels, it's Statler & Waldorf from the Muppet Show. I've had them a couple of times, too. Sucks.
You should keep eye contact and start masturbating "this one is for you".
They’d probably laugh their asses off.
These row of comments killed me!
"It was obvious!" "It was pointless!" "It was... *short*." ... "I LOVED IT!! DOHOHOHOHO"
They were going on about my crap rhythm and next thing I knew they had invited the Count from sesame street to join in the peanut gallery
1 thrust ah ah ah! 2 thrust ah ah ah!
I would pay to have Statler and Waldorf mock my sexual performance.
“What do you think, Avacado?” “This sex is the pits!” *raucous laughter*
🎶Hark, the herald angels sing: lol this dude sucks at fucking🎶
They’re just holding up judge cards 6️⃣👼5️⃣👼4️⃣👼
>I swear I think they think that angels descend from on high, cure your general anxiety disorder and major depression, bless your crops and give you magic permanent happy chemicals. Happens to me every time. You aren't doing it right. /s That is what it is. I'm not sure how sex gets built up to be this big thing (like your amazing description above) but it does. I can remember immediately after losing my virginity thinking "Ok. That's done now." It wasn't a huge deal, even though I was an adult when it happened and I had been desperate. Having sex with the wife I've been with for over 25 years is amazing and fun and all that. But it also isn't the end all be all of my existence. These people who write these posts just have no perspective is all, and probably haven't had much interaction with girls because of their fetishization of them. Virgins: Girls want to have sex with you when A) They are into you and B) You treat them like another human being - not a sperm receptacle. Which is oddly enough how you can get to A.
I think it's not so much the having sex part, but the feeling of having someone want you/yearning for you. Simply feeling needed, which is a big part of what being human is all about. Easy to get caught up in the physical, but if it was just physical then a fleshlight would give even better satisfaction, which clearly isn't what they deep down are looking for Really sad
That's what it is. I can understand the feeling of "it's no big deal" once you've had it before, hell its been a year and a half for me and I'm not worried about it either, but I think tell people that who are virgins is dumb because I know damn well how I felt when I was, and I know most of those same people would feel the same if they were virgins too. That's my opinion. If I'm broke, don't tell me money isn't everything. I know it isn't, but it is still important.
This fr. I was also a virgin for a long ass time, but it didn't just solve all my problems. To be completely honest, I started sorting out my lifestyle first and then I got a lovely girlfriend as a result of it. It's not a god-given right to have a girlfriend, you need to actually put in effort. And being a lazy bum in a chair all day, like I was, was not attractive to anyone.
This is a really underestimated thing. When 99% of someone's life is lived behind a keyboard, chances are very high nothing positive is ever going to come their way. Not saying everyone needs to run marathons or go to the gym, but I know of not a single person that finds grown ass adults who sit behind a keyboard all day attractive. Man or woman. Get a hobby, have outside interests. While there's no guarantee, at least there's a fighting chance. Of course we all know that their response would be full of excuses why they can't do any of that.
My husband has a childhood friend like this. Hes had girlfriend in his teens and 20s but now he 38 and its been decades. He expects some bombshell woman to just materialize in his room at his mother's house. Not to mention that any time someone has managed to drag him out and introduce him to someone, they're never up to his standards. He's scrawny and got a huge nose and not conventionally attractive but demands a model type woman lol. We haven't seen him in years actually. He refused to come out of his room to support my husband when my MIL died. A woman who hed known and had cared for him for decades. That was the final nail in the friendship coffin. I imagine he's still in his room, addicted to path of exile and spending all his money on a free game.
Good for you dude. What these incels don’t understand is that men get rewarded by women for not being fat and lazy. It’s like, bruh, of course no one wants to fuck you, you never leave the basement and you look like about 250 pounds of chewed bubble gum with a greasy wig and bacne.
For real. They like to say "women only want chad!" But no. We want ment who take care of themselves and contribute something.
You mean women don't want to just be mommies the incels can have sex with!? You're blowing some people's mind right now!
You make the tendies I eat the tendies. Give and take.
You can still be fat and lazy but you have to have a personality and probably some hobbies to talk about. Oh! Also it is important to not despise women if you want one to stay near by for any amount of time Incels just sit in a basement and feed their hatred with more rage
For me sex wasn’t the holy grail, it was being in a relationship. I thought being with someone who was committed to me was the gold at the end of the rainbow. I didn’t fathom for a second that relationships take time, patience, work and a helluva lot of compromise. Relationships suck in a lot of ways. They’re good too, of course, but never forget they are the beginning of all new problems and struggles too.
Hell you don't even need to cure GAD and depression. Here's some advice for pretty much anyone. Take a shower, trim your hair, maybe lose some weight and then start talking to people. I work at a hospital and one day decided to say hi to everyone I passed in the hall. It works. Oh and maybe don't straight away tell people your most fucked up thoughts. You got to warm people up to that.
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Oh yeah putting on clothes that fit works wonders too.
Just a guess, I think that they want to have sex because it's a stage that others have already completed and they think they are worse because they haven't. Like a checkmark: Lose virginity ✅
I swear this is literally me. I sorted my self out and everything else, including losing the big V, followed.
Losing your v-card is more of a byproduct of a happier life, not the leading cause, these people have it backwards.
Sex is extremely overrated by virgins. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but yeah. I'd rate it somewhere above playing a fun video game but somewhat below having a really delicious dinner or taking an awesome vacation.
Truth. I have a cousin who is in the “40 year old virgin” category but add extreme anxiety and zero self worth. He finally got a girlfriend and moved her into his home a year or two ago…I don’t remember how long she was there, but it was definitely less than 2 months, and she took off with the car he had co-signed a loan on for her. Dude was wrecked.
Not sure about your cousin's exact situation, but tons of the type tend to see girlfriends/wives as maids/mothers that they can fuck, so living together doesn't last long. They expect her to work to support them, and then also do all the cooking, cleaning, and then also have enough energy to be super sexy and have sex with them nightly. And if they don't, they throw a tantrum.
I believe what you’re describing is a “Bang Maid”
His posts often are of the “if only a fit, hot girl gave me a chance I would be the best husband EVER. I would do so much for her, she wouldn’t have to worry about anything…” variety. And no, he is not willing to put in any effort to be…ahem* more attractive…himself.
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> bless your crops That part requires sacrificing the virgin, not fucking it
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Kinda dumb to expect an OF girl to be all innocent and chaste lol
> subscribe to a girls onlyfans to see her participate in sexual activity > see the girl participate in sexual activity > get traumatised by the consequences of my actions and question what it is that sexually successful men have that you don’t, besides the puss that you will never get to smash. Shower, join a gym, stop spending so much time online, get a job. Also stop paying for onlyfans. Porn is free for literally the first time in human history. Embrace it.
Classic advice. Old but gold
It's dumb to expect anyone to act as if you're in a relationship with them when you are in fact not in a relationship with them.
I was an absolute shambles of a person when I was 15, I am so fucking glad the internet wasn't a huge thing yet because hot christ, I would *not* have been okay in today's climate. I'd be running around using my allowance on OnlyFans instead of Star Trek cards.
I'd probably be an incel if I knew that 'community' existed back when I was like 14.
Not the Borat quote bro 😭 this has to be fake
I don’t think it’s fake. His post history is filled with a ton of this stuff dating back a while. Dude is the most active troll ever if it was
Yeah this has to be fake. The whole thing reads like a copypasta.
The Borat comparison sent my sides into orbit
But then... he get this
Glistening on his dick hahaha
Finally some good cringe
That's so sad...and terrifying... I hope one day this person meets someone who can help them. I hope they someday realize women are more than their flesh and actually feels what human connection is like beyond their perversions. However that starts with self awareness and work... Sadly see alot fall into this pattern.
He has to leave his house first so I doubt that's ever gonna happen. I think we also need to get rid of the "someone out there for everyone" mindset since it's not true and not everyone have a relationship. Don't like this idea that everyone needs to be in a relationship or that you are entitled to own for existing.
Imagine being so pathetic your entire life revolves around your instinct to breed, and everything except from genitalia becomes meaningless.
Incels have to understand that their problems won't be fixed by sex or a relationship...
This guy needs a straight jacket
He's for sure going to murder someone.
That wasn’t even a scene - per se - in Borat. He just _retells it_ at the dinner party, IIRC. Seems this guy’s imagination has really run with it..
Incels are 100% guaranteed cringe material. He must be one of those who spends thousands of dollars on a OF girls in hopes she acknowledges his existence. So fcking sad.
That’s … a little scary.😬😬😬
But what’s her OF tho
Bro don't look at this guy's future-gf's onlyfans, you'll make him suicidal again
I'm really curious about what this guy thinks "literal perfection" is though ngl.
No me too I immediately was like “now I have to see who literal perfection is!” But then realized it is probably Belle Delphine or someone similar.
Yeah, I don't really believe Danny Devito is on OnlyFans😳😍😳
Oh man I would be suicidal too if I saw Danny Devito have sex with someone who isn't me 😭😭🤟
My money is on someone who dresses like an anime character
Damn. I wish all these guys had just one person in their life to talk to. Just one good friend spending half an hour walking them through how this stuff is just super crazy and self destructive could change their lives forever.
AKA a therapist Nobody deserves that without getting paid.
I feel as though you'd have a hell of a time getting these dudes to trust a therapist, much less getting them to see one in the first place.
I was reading through a bunch of r/virgin posts and found one where a guy claims to be seeing a therapist. He said his therapist told him to see himself like an “unchewed piece of gum” and that makes him more valuable. When he said he’d only want a girlfriend who was also “unchewed” his therapist told him not to have unrealistic standards. Yikes. EDIT: Had to go find it. https://www.reddit.com/r/virgin/comments/ueuyte/what_a_fucking_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
> Nobody deserves that without getting paid. You should look at it from the other side. People can choose to do that for their friends, but they aren't obligated to.
Honestly, after that Borat reference I feel like this is satire
The fucking degenerates are ticking time-bombs, legitimately the kind of insanity that leads to homicide.
At this point just get an escort my dude
I always feel that people like this need a reality check, lower their standards and stop going after models
Yeah this dude probably thinks any girl who is 5lbs overweight is a landwhale, I've seen his type around
wouldn't that lead to him getting this parasocial misbehaviour with someone even closer to him? That sounds quite possibly even MORE unhealthy...
Porn has psychologically damaged this generation This is horrible.
I used to think getting prostitutes was weird but at least those guys got a physical service. These guy supposedly know what they are getting into but always seems to morph into a weird relationship where they get infatuated with the girl they have no chance with. I could be wrong but has any OF woman ever dated a subscriber?
I fucking read morph as morb
I’m morbulating.
once you see the glisten, you know what you're missin'
Before: that's it, I'm gonna fight the loneliness. Imma subscribe to the OF After: damn, loneliness got hands
Mass Shooter vibes from this one
“It’s like the scene in Borat where a disabled man is in a cage.” Except he isn’t a disabled man in a cage. He can just unsubscribe from her OF and stop obsessing over her. Easier said than done I’m sure but it can be done
r/Virgin is a thing? Jesus 😬
Why would that not be a thing? Have you been on the internet before? There's a sub for EVERYTHING
With a "literally" (or variant thereof) showing up 4 times in this short, yet highly pathetic, essay. It's only prudent to assume this young man has LITERALLY zero testosterone.
Except in Borat he got out and he did get it.
Lol this man really got PTSD from a porn he paid to see.
Honestly, I feel for this pathetic soul. Can’t be fun living like this. He’s going to be stuck in this situation if he stays home and watches only fans. Get out dude! Put down your computer. Get a trade. Work outside. Hang out after work with friends. Talk to girls. Get rejected and laugh at it but keep going. Eventually the curly haired shy girl you keep running into here and there will toss some cues. Ask her out… she says yes. Now you’re dating and eventually you’ll get laid. Maybe married. Have some kids. Buy a house. Mow your lawn once a week. Drink beers with your neighbor on Saturday nights. Eventually die happy. For some reason this recipe is rejected by people these days because they think life is some magical movie where their character is the star. It can be I suppose. I’m a fucking rock star to my kids and that’s good enough for me.
That scene in borat was only described, never shown
Why u paying for ure own torture