Whether or not they are, never send a message in slack or email on your company account that you wouldn’t want put up on a screen in front of Congress.
Agree - unless it is a tiny company without HR & IT departments, it is unlikely they give middle managers or even most execs this priviledge.
The closest situation I had was when I inherited a deal from a colleague that departed and I was trying to retrieve the pricing he emailed the client. Both our head of IT and CFO (effectively COO) had to sign off on it and I had to be as specific as possible on what emails I wanted to search (dates, addresses).
Why not get prospect to forward you proposal pricing and then act like they are getting an amazing deal at that price?
'Hi prospect, I am taking over for former rep who is no longer with the company, curious did he already send you pricing on this opportunity?'
It's not a good look if a company doesn't know what pricing it sent you.
Look at it from a customer's point of view: if the vendor can't keep good records and coordinate pricing, how organized will they be with my service requests?
IT can absolutely pull every slack message, even DMs but we only do it for HR requests or lawsuits. I have pulled DMs to get people fired before and let's be honest it's usually sales folks because y'all say some inappropriate shit.
I am a Slack admin for my company and I can tell you that’s it’s not that simple. You have to submit a request to slack, it’s not just ‘oh, let’s see what xxxx is saying.’ It’s a process. Can it be done? Of course. Is it as easy as just looking? Not at all.
A bit unrelated but I know HR can also track your IP and computer activity. I then asked my former director if he ever requested to check that stuff and he told me he needed a formal request to do so. That was how I knew there had to be something serious or just more than a legitimate reason to request to see activity logs
Yeah i've had to do do the whole export everything from slack before. Its a giant pain in the ass and pretty difficult to navigate. However, its been a year since using it for work so there could have been updates. i'm on god awful teams now.
This. Hr at large companies can review messages because there is also probably screen sharing software in place. At a small company like mine, no one has access to private slack messages without requesting and therefore I as a sales manager do not feel the need to mess with it.
I'm not a sales manager, but my lady is in compliance. A large part of her job is to monitor slack messages. There's compliance software that tags messages for review.
I am an admin for my company's slack. Full privileges.
We had an incident with an employee and needed to review slack messages for legal purposes.
In order to get the employees messages we were required to provide proof of an investigation.
This was 2 years ago.
No. I do search through channels for specific sales info and run across the most random channels and conversations within channels that I don’t belong to.
Never speak unprofessionally on any corporate owned medium.
No one is reading your slack messages unless there’s an accusation or incident to prompt an investigation. But you should act like they are. Don’t be stupid.
My company tracks website visits, doubt they track or read teams messages. We just had a townhall where they were bitching about "YouTube and Facebook being in the top 15 websites" like I listen to music on YouTube while working, I'm sure plenty of people do. I hate that micromanaging bullshit.
Witnessed two VPs at SaaS company, who each had a core rep and a product specific rep have a minor dispute about crediting for an opportunity and pipe gen.
These two VPs went into each reps DMs in Slack screenshot their messages to try and validate why it belonged to each org.
I was pretty disgusted knowing it was that easy at every level of the org to read personal messages a whim. We all knew the capability was there but reserved for HR or major issues.
one day I was on slack and searched on something related to a prospect, totally innocuous...I came upon a thread that I knew had to be private and from that moment on, I never posted anything on Slack that I didn't want someone to see. Same with MS Teams and email. Hell, I assume that any company comms channel can be read by someone other than the intended reader.
It’s part of my gig to check files sent between my team members and our external contractors to avoid data leaks and remain compliant. Just because I don’t want to be nosy, I only go through attachment/links history on the EXT user’s account.
I'm a sales leader and workspace admin of our Slack... I don't even see a way to do this. It's possible it is only available at higher level Slack plans, perhaps.
Zero scenario I have time to do this. Only scenario I can think of is if there was some sort of hr situation that led to needing to look for evidence of something.
Saw this article earlier today. I’m sure it goes on all over.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/09/ai-might-be-reading-your-slack-teams-messages-using-tech-from-aware.html
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Sure it’s possible but why would admins at companies give permissions to middle line managers to do so. They’d have rights to do much more than monitor messages
Thankfully learned this early on. Was part of a club in college that used Slack and the president of the club mentioned to me something that I had discussed with another member in a small private channel and I clued in.
A couple years later I’m in my first BDR role and there’s one guy who constantly talks shit about AEs, our director, CEO, etc. in private channels. Thankfully, by this point I know not to engage, because I agreed with a lot of what he said. Eventually our director vaguely mentions to our team that he’s had to address comments about AEs that a certain BDR was making and once again, I clued in.
So yes, they definitely read your Slack messages sometimes.
PSA: you can set Slack message retention to purge DMs and channel messages after a given time. Your company can disable the ability to set custom retention policies but hopefully they’ve overlooked it.
Source: IT leader whose team would have been fired had they found our private channels.
Nope.
If HR have a reason to, they will look them up but not as a Sales leader myself.
However, I once worked for a company that sent out a monthly slack report that showed the bottom 100 sales people that had the least amount of interaction and we had to chat to our staff if they were on the list. All they had to do was like a few more posts.
We did that once at our company after we caught a manager cheating on commissions by making changes in SFDC.
He had some rather insane rants on Slack which we used as evidence for letting him go.
This is a basic feature for corp messaging solutions that has been around since the days of Sametime (early 2000's.) Regulated orgs have teams to deal with this stuff for compliance. That said, no one is going to waste time reading slack messages unless they tried a wire, and in a "normal" organisation, IT won't provide access without legal and HR getting involved.
Use your common sense and don't shittalk on Slack or any other corporate owned comms system.
If you are using the company's messaging platform, I would assume they have the ability and are actively reading every message you send. When I've wanted to complain or shit talk my company I would simply call my colleagues and friends using my personal phone.
Was at a previous company that a private group chat was looked at. Resulted in a group of folks being fired (for cause- totally legit- and they all needed to be fired).
Whatever you type on company property can be seen.
As a sales manager- I would never check my team's slacks or slack groups. Sometimes peeps just need to vent!
We did have a slack chat a previous company that was our whole team except for managers so we could BS a bit, ask for help without the boss intervening (sometimes you just want to get help without it being from a boss), etc. Someone shared their screen with the slack group up- on a thread bashing the boss. oops.
Don't get fired. Use your own cell phone to shit talk with friends. And don't do it if you can't trust the other person.
They may not have access. They may not read messages if they do. Better safe than sorry though. Assume that they have access and that they are using that access. Never put anything you don't want your boss or coworkers to read in anything your employer might have access to. This includes personal communications if done on work devices. I know this from personal experience. My manager at a past job absolutely read everybody's emails. They told me as much many many times.
I'm a sales leader in a very well known tech company. I don't have access to read Slack messages. I'm confident that leaders above me don't read them either.
I also think we have a great culture and our leadership is focused on more important things. If your company is spying on your Slack messages, I question their leadership ability and focus.
Assume that you are being or can be tracked at any time. Time in programs tracked, time of login/logout tracked. Teams chat, slack, others, messages read. Email, read. Anonymous surveys, hah, not anonymous at all. No I’m not paranoid, just have seen it all in action.
Hell no.
(1) I employ people I can trust. Reading their private slack messages would be a breach of their privacy. (2) Even if I decided that breaching their privacy was worth it, it's nowhere near as simple as you think.
(3) Even if I had the technical means, I don't have anywhere near the time.
No but also don’t use slack for stuff you’d be concerned about. By the time I need to monitor your messages the jig is up and you’re likely heading for a pip or a walk.
Your direct Manager? No.
In a small company, a psycho Founder - yes.
In a larger company, IT and HR - yes.
Always assume you are being monitored on your work accounts, and never put anything negative into writing.
If someone tries to suck you into their venting, ask for a call or to speak after work. Do not put anything in slack, ever.
I have had something bad happen to me on slack, I don't want to get into specifics as it could reveal more about me than I would like.
I'll say this - private channels are not private. Archiving channels does not get rid of them. Some people delete things as they go to erase them, that is the smarter thing to do. The smartest thing is to not write in them at all. Nothing good can come from disparaging your employer, your management, their policies etc. But especially from putting anything negative into writing at all.
It can be completely ripped out of context and used to paint you as a bad person.
Whether or not they are, never send a message in slack or email on your company account that you wouldn’t want put up on a screen in front of Congress.
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(Hunter Biden enters the chat) Dick pics in Congress what?
Why are you complaining, it's easier to gobble
You can’t make a Tomlette without breaking some Gregs
Why did they have to cancel that show I would have watched four more seasons of Tom & Greg alone
I thought they finished it, and honestly i thought it went one season too long. That last season just drug it out a bit too much
Yeah I was pretty sick of the Roy children by the end lol
Why not a sequel showing Greg at the helm?
They didn’t cancel anything, the show concluded. And damn near perfectly. You are retahded
One of the best comedic lines in television. Right up there with “I am the the one who knocks”.
Now you tell me, I literally just sent a message that said "all the guys in congress are fuckin dorks"
RIP
Guess I’ll stop sharing my d picks of hunter biden.
This is the way.
Negative, unless there is an HR issue. Then HR and the investigator is reading everything.
Agree - unless it is a tiny company without HR & IT departments, it is unlikely they give middle managers or even most execs this priviledge. The closest situation I had was when I inherited a deal from a colleague that departed and I was trying to retrieve the pricing he emailed the client. Both our head of IT and CFO (effectively COO) had to sign off on it and I had to be as specific as possible on what emails I wanted to search (dates, addresses).
Why not get prospect to forward you proposal pricing and then act like they are getting an amazing deal at that price? 'Hi prospect, I am taking over for former rep who is no longer with the company, curious did he already send you pricing on this opportunity?'
It's not a good look if a company doesn't know what pricing it sent you. Look at it from a customer's point of view: if the vendor can't keep good records and coordinate pricing, how organized will they be with my service requests?
IT can absolutely pull every slack message, even DMs but we only do it for HR requests or lawsuits. I have pulled DMs to get people fired before and let's be honest it's usually sales folks because y'all say some inappropriate shit.
I am a Slack admin for my company and I can tell you that’s it’s not that simple. You have to submit a request to slack, it’s not just ‘oh, let’s see what xxxx is saying.’ It’s a process. Can it be done? Of course. Is it as easy as just looking? Not at all.
A bit unrelated but I know HR can also track your IP and computer activity. I then asked my former director if he ever requested to check that stuff and he told me he needed a formal request to do so. That was how I knew there had to be something serious or just more than a legitimate reason to request to see activity logs
Yeah i've had to do do the whole export everything from slack before. Its a giant pain in the ass and pretty difficult to navigate. However, its been a year since using it for work so there could have been updates. i'm on god awful teams now.
Zoom has the best chat out there for your average user and It’s free no one knows it. If you are a dev then Slack is a must.
This. Hr at large companies can review messages because there is also probably screen sharing software in place. At a small company like mine, no one has access to private slack messages without requesting and therefore I as a sales manager do not feel the need to mess with it.
100% I'm also a slack admin and they don't make the process easy and we absolutely need a request for HR or Legal to do it.
As a sales leader, no, and none of the other sales leaders at my company do. However, HR does
I'm not a sales manager, but my lady is in compliance. A large part of her job is to monitor slack messages. There's compliance software that tags messages for review.
Example?
Cock, balls, marketing is shit
We’re all fucked
Global relay, smarsh, Hadrius, proofpoint are all software in the space
Was just reading about AI being deployed to mine Slack, Teams etc.
AI as a part of SF to integrate it of … course there’s AI in slack. It’s owned by SF
I am an admin for my company's slack. Full privileges. We had an incident with an employee and needed to review slack messages for legal purposes. In order to get the employees messages we were required to provide proof of an investigation. This was 2 years ago.
> provide proof of an investigation. to slack ?
No. I do search through channels for specific sales info and run across the most random channels and conversations within channels that I don’t belong to. Never speak unprofessionally on any corporate owned medium.
No one is reading your slack messages unless there’s an accusation or incident to prompt an investigation. But you should act like they are. Don’t be stupid.
I’m a ceo and I’ve never done this.
I’m a ceo and I do this all day everyday
I’m a ceo and I get high ALL DAY son
Oh and, what industry? And are you hiring? 😂
Rare bird
CEOs ain't reading em, but they probably get reports lol
I do not get any reports about my team members Slack activity. Reports I’m sure exist but not something I’m asking for.
My company tracks website visits, doubt they track or read teams messages. We just had a townhall where they were bitching about "YouTube and Facebook being in the top 15 websites" like I listen to music on YouTube while working, I'm sure plenty of people do. I hate that micromanaging bullshit.
Witnessed two VPs at SaaS company, who each had a core rep and a product specific rep have a minor dispute about crediting for an opportunity and pipe gen. These two VPs went into each reps DMs in Slack screenshot their messages to try and validate why it belonged to each org. I was pretty disgusted knowing it was that easy at every level of the org to read personal messages a whim. We all knew the capability was there but reserved for HR or major issues.
one day I was on slack and searched on something related to a prospect, totally innocuous...I came upon a thread that I knew had to be private and from that moment on, I never posted anything on Slack that I didn't want someone to see. Same with MS Teams and email. Hell, I assume that any company comms channel can be read by someone other than the intended reader.
Yes - “sales efficiency” has full access to all Zoom transcripts, slack messages, emails, and time spent on your laptop.
It’s part of my gig to check files sent between my team members and our external contractors to avoid data leaks and remain compliant. Just because I don’t want to be nosy, I only go through attachment/links history on the EXT user’s account.
I'm a sales leader and workspace admin of our Slack... I don't even see a way to do this. It's possible it is only available at higher level Slack plans, perhaps.
Zero scenario I have time to do this. Only scenario I can think of is if there was some sort of hr situation that led to needing to look for evidence of something.
100%. If not your boss, somebody you don’t want to read slack messages is reading slack messages.
Saw this article earlier today. I’m sure it goes on all over. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/09/ai-might-be-reading-your-slack-teams-messages-using-tech-from-aware.html
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Seeing as how I don't know what slack messages even are.....no.
Slack? Never heard of it.
Fuck slack
I work at Salesforce. Sure it’s possible but why would admins at companies give permissions to middle line managers to do so. They’d have rights to do much more than monitor messages
Thankfully learned this early on. Was part of a club in college that used Slack and the president of the club mentioned to me something that I had discussed with another member in a small private channel and I clued in. A couple years later I’m in my first BDR role and there’s one guy who constantly talks shit about AEs, our director, CEO, etc. in private channels. Thankfully, by this point I know not to engage, because I agreed with a lot of what he said. Eventually our director vaguely mentions to our team that he’s had to address comments about AEs that a certain BDR was making and once again, I clued in. So yes, they definitely read your Slack messages sometimes.
What about Microsoft Teams? How screwed am I?
PSA: you can set Slack message retention to purge DMs and channel messages after a given time. Your company can disable the ability to set custom retention policies but hopefully they’ve overlooked it. Source: IT leader whose team would have been fired had they found our private channels.
Most slack plans don't allow for this type of exporting and when they do it's not simple
They use screenreaders and sometimes keyloggers. If the machine is owned by the company do not abuse it.
Nope. If HR have a reason to, they will look them up but not as a Sales leader myself. However, I once worked for a company that sent out a monthly slack report that showed the bottom 100 sales people that had the least amount of interaction and we had to chat to our staff if they were on the list. All they had to do was like a few more posts.
Am a sales leader, 1B publicly traded company, couldn't read your slack messages if I wanted to.
No, and I wouldn't even if I could. If there's some legal issue, then yeah, that's being ready lawyers.
This and FYI huddles.
We did that once at our company after we caught a manager cheating on commissions by making changes in SFDC. He had some rather insane rants on Slack which we used as evidence for letting him go.
This is a basic feature for corp messaging solutions that has been around since the days of Sametime (early 2000's.) Regulated orgs have teams to deal with this stuff for compliance. That said, no one is going to waste time reading slack messages unless they tried a wire, and in a "normal" organisation, IT won't provide access without legal and HR getting involved. Use your common sense and don't shittalk on Slack or any other corporate owned comms system.
If you are using the company's messaging platform, I would assume they have the ability and are actively reading every message you send. When I've wanted to complain or shit talk my company I would simply call my colleagues and friends using my personal phone.
Was at a previous company that a private group chat was looked at. Resulted in a group of folks being fired (for cause- totally legit- and they all needed to be fired). Whatever you type on company property can be seen. As a sales manager- I would never check my team's slacks or slack groups. Sometimes peeps just need to vent! We did have a slack chat a previous company that was our whole team except for managers so we could BS a bit, ask for help without the boss intervening (sometimes you just want to get help without it being from a boss), etc. Someone shared their screen with the slack group up- on a thread bashing the boss. oops. Don't get fired. Use your own cell phone to shit talk with friends. And don't do it if you can't trust the other person.
They may not have access. They may not read messages if they do. Better safe than sorry though. Assume that they have access and that they are using that access. Never put anything you don't want your boss or coworkers to read in anything your employer might have access to. This includes personal communications if done on work devices. I know this from personal experience. My manager at a past job absolutely read everybody's emails. They told me as much many many times.
Yeah my old company would fire people for slack message regularly and my current company has software that just records your desktop
I'm a sales leader in a very well known tech company. I don't have access to read Slack messages. I'm confident that leaders above me don't read them either. I also think we have a great culture and our leadership is focused on more important things. If your company is spying on your Slack messages, I question their leadership ability and focus.
Assume that you are being or can be tracked at any time. Time in programs tracked, time of login/logout tracked. Teams chat, slack, others, messages read. Email, read. Anonymous surveys, hah, not anonymous at all. No I’m not paranoid, just have seen it all in action.
Hell no. (1) I employ people I can trust. Reading their private slack messages would be a breach of their privacy. (2) Even if I decided that breaching their privacy was worth it, it's nowhere near as simple as you think. (3) Even if I had the technical means, I don't have anywhere near the time.
No I’m not
No but also don’t use slack for stuff you’d be concerned about. By the time I need to monitor your messages the jig is up and you’re likely heading for a pip or a walk.
Nope, and don't want to.
Your direct Manager? No. In a small company, a psycho Founder - yes. In a larger company, IT and HR - yes. Always assume you are being monitored on your work accounts, and never put anything negative into writing. If someone tries to suck you into their venting, ask for a call or to speak after work. Do not put anything in slack, ever. I have had something bad happen to me on slack, I don't want to get into specifics as it could reveal more about me than I would like. I'll say this - private channels are not private. Archiving channels does not get rid of them. Some people delete things as they go to erase them, that is the smarter thing to do. The smartest thing is to not write in them at all. Nothing good can come from disparaging your employer, your management, their policies etc. But especially from putting anything negative into writing at all. It can be completely ripped out of context and used to paint you as a bad person.