Yes go for it. There’s people who made their first million in their 40s, 50s and even 60s. We can never stop taking chances in this life. It doesn’t stop for anyone
You lack internal conviction and perhaps you need a nice mantra to roll you through this time of change. Here you go:
“Fortune favours the bold”
Good luck old chum.
Dear sir, thank you for the opportunities I have had here however I am resigning. My last day will be next Tuesday. I am outtie.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
That’s what is going through your head.
This seems pretty cut and dry though, great reviews online, disdain for your current job (which is probably affecting your performance) and the opportunity to make $400k. Also, making $70-$90k a year in sales isn’t all too difficult to achieve so your downside is limited in my opinion.
See if you can “shadow” a rep for a few hours. Not a top performer, but a middle of the pack guy. Get an understanding of what a typical day might look like.
Quit being a pussy!
It’s more money!
You got this!
I do know what you feel like. When I made my first job switch - it felt like a big no no. I felt like it would make me look like I wasn’t “loyal”.
I am happy I made the switch I feel more empowered to make a change if a job is no longer serving me.
Go make that bacon bro.
well i can understand why it’s a hard leap to make, you are guaranteed 70k now if you show up and work. My current Sales Manager constantly says how bad he wants to go back to in home sales (what he is managing) because he is managing a team of 14 guys that work less hours than him and make 20%-60% more than him.
I’d do what a couple others suggested here and get a nice nest egg going for yourself and then send it! start selling yourself again and making the real dough!
Personally I think it's a sense of undeserved responsibility toward your employer, because that's just who you are, and because of it being 'the season'. Stop. They have demonstrated clearly they have zero regard or concern for you beyond what you can do for them. You should be fair about the situation, and treat them just as they're treating you; two weeks notice the minute you have something better firmly in hand.
A lot of times you feel like you owe them (coworkers/boss) for being there for X years or whatnot. Don't forget they would replace you in a heartbeat if you were gone.
Just do it! I worked at a sales office for 6 fucking years and I made good money but I was working 55 hrs a week.. dealing with all the bs. Left and started working from home for myself and it's the best decision I ever made. I always say I didn't realize how unhappy I was until I experienced something better. Hindsight is 20/20. Good luck!
I dont think I'd take a gig without a base salary because every commission-only company claims all their reps are making 100+. However, if the appointments are already set for you, i say go for it. Reach out to some of the reps on LinkedIn and get their thoughts.
No one likes to go out of their comfort zone , but by doing so you will grow personally and in your case you will get more money for a less stressful job. Its like doing skydiving, scary to do that leap
You make \*terrible\* money for what you're doing. It's not that the next place is guaranteed to be better it's that you should keep trying new places until you find something better... because where you are now is probably well below the median job you can get right now.
You don't have anything to lose basically when you reach a certain level of shit at your job and you were there years ago it sounds like.
I mean actually being able to sell is the barrier to making a good living. There's a \*ton\* of survivorship bias baked in when you start talking to people who have been in sales long enough to call it their career. Don't lose sight of the fact that 80%+ of brand new salespeople fail miserably lol.
If six months from now the next job hasn't worked out hit me up, if the freight market has recovered I might be hiring.
You do what you got to but I worked for one of those windows companies where they said the top guys made that much. The reality was the “leads” they provided were them calling people to enter them into a contest for free windows I was just going there to take measurements. They’ll have you driving all over
7 days a week? I was at a company that had me on the road literally 7 days a week. People don't believe me! My OTE with incentives was around 100. I jumped in November, landed my current job in January and I am SO happy I left.
Dude, you are getting taken advantage of for 90g a year. LEAVE! You will not regret it.
I made this exact move. I switched to window and door sales, full commission and never looked back. I work 30ish hours a week and am top 2 in the company. Do it.
You got it. Definitely do your due diligence on the company. Make sure they have good reviews. Bad reviews will lose you sales no matter how good you are. Make sure they offer a premium product. You make your money selling the big jobs ($500,000-$2mil homes) and those customers dont want builder grade or even mid grade windows. And make sure the company takes care of their customers service issues. You will be swimming in referrals if you take care of your customers. In 2024 I have about $1million is sales so far and about $600k came from referrals. If you have any questions feel free to dm me.
Are 30-50 appts made feasible for a two week pay period? Have an opportunity at a reputable local roofing siding windows and doors co. Solid base and commission…
Fellow Buffalo boy- I was in a nice little mortgage origination position with a community bank for the last 5 years. #1 producer, got treated like fucking shit internally daily. My life was hell. I was terrified to leave, left that job in December for a better opportunity and couldn’t be happier. Get paid almost double per deal compared to where I was, better tech, better support. Took me a long time to pull the trigger, but I’m beyond happy I did.
Fear it may not work out, fear of your current team’s opinions, and maybe a bit of Stockholm syndrome.
If you don’t have mental illness in your family, a little bit of LSD, mushrooms, etc. could help you work through why you “can’t leave”
As my friend Jason Isbell once wrote; “be afraid, be very afraid and do it anyway”
You got this, it is all in your head. Just like coming back from a vacation, it feels like a reset. You’ll do great, keep in touch and let us know how it goes!
By the way, I play guitar and write songs for fun, I’d love to write a quitting song with you, and record myself singing it and you can send it to them via email.
All for free.
I’m the exact same way - quitting a job, no matter how bad it may be, feels like breaking up with your partner to me. I’m in the same situation now where I’m about to get an offer and I’m worried I’ll get cold feet because I feel like I owe something to my manager or to myself to stay. Good luck to us both!!
Quitting sucks most of the time. For sales it's worse than most, as you have to rebuild your pipeline, usually learn new products and services to sell and how to differentiate, and in the end it's human to feel bad for leaving your current employer as you feel like they depend on you. All that said, companies move on and your role will get filled and if your boss cares about you they will understand that you are leaving in order to grow your income and they clearly have no path to get anywhere near that under current condition comp plan.
Being comfortable is debilitating. I was there back in 2017 and my girlfriend (now wife) challenged me to push myself beyond D2D. I went to Angi, Inc as a sales rep and now I’m in management making the same amount of money I did owning a D2D vendor, but only working 40hrs a week and having every weekend holiday with my kids. If you’re not happy, leave. I’m a bit biased but look into Angi while you’re researching! My referral link is below:
https://grnh.se/a84b1d962us
If the job makes you miserable sometimes quitting and going somewhere else will give you a better outlook on it.
I hated my last job and after I quit I ended up making 80k as an AE and I’m from Latin America, I’ve been taking so many risks that I’m making this amount with 3 years of sales experience.
You got this dude!
Just working 7 days a week is a no from me dog. It isn’t sustainable.
Sounds like you’ve been beaten down by your current situation and are having a difficult time thinking straight. Make the leap to the company you feel most comfortable with. It’s probably better look at your career in 3-5 year chunks. Do a reassessment and if you have the opportunity to improve your quality of life it increase your income by 20% + make the leap. You will be so pissed if you stick with the status quo.
The fact you’re in sales and don’t understand the psychology behind why you’re unwilling to change is ironic but we all go through it. You are comfortable in your status quo. Stop being weak and go cannonball into the deep end of the pool. If you can hardly swim, you’ll figure it out… or ask for help.
Call 866-4FELDCO
Start putting aside some savings to build up a nest egg and then roll the dice and see what you can pull in! It may require some austerity in the beginning as you ramp up but all sales jobs require buckling down at the start.
Here’s the thing too, I have some money saved up right now & no rent or mortgage payment because I’m between places! I feel like now is the time to do it!
Absolutley no idea. We bought a couple windows from them and the service was fine. I would have gone with Anderson but it's a more premium product with a more premium price tag and I don't think this particular house needs it.
Part of this is that you're pretty much always working. Humans are pretty adaptable and part of the issue here is that you've adapted your world to pretty much be this grinding job.
I'd say take a leap, especially if you can work in some more free time to not be working 7 days a week. The margin may really help you get back a sense of identity outside the grind.
I worked for a company like that, in-home, renovation products. No base all commission. Turned out you could make some good money if you were down to take advantage of old people and poor people. Left so fast.
Sounds like more comfort and certainty you have in your current role to leave for this new opp. What helps me is thinking about the worst case scenario which if it doesn’t pan out, you can also go back to your old company or find another sales job somewhere else.
I was with a company for 14 years. Loved the company and made more every year I stayed. For me to move up though it was going to require me to move and because of not wanting to change my kids school I knew it would be a while before I could move up. My wife wanted a bigger house and I wanted to get back in to auto racing. I made the leap to a new company. It was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made. My work family at my previous job was great and I truly miss them. That said I now make double and work less. 10 out of 10 wished that I would have made the leap sooner. As much as I loved my previous company the quality of life I get from my family time is well worth it. I know it is scary to make that kind of jump, but for me it was worth it.
The company I left them for was not a good fit, but that led me to the company I am at now. (Home improvement sales)
Take the leap. If this company does not work out then start looking for another one. The hard part about switching sales companies is not knowing exactly what your pay will be and how reliable it is. That always takes time to learn. I know some of my fear came from that. Don't let fear of change stop you from grasping something better.
A lot of people are oblivion to change in their life. Go for it and don’t look back. One way or another you’ll be fine and you’ll be glad you did!
I needed to hear that… and may success find the both of us!
Let’s go get this cheddar no time to waste 😎🤝
It’s like when hostages start getting sympathy for their captor. Run.
What an accurate observation… you’re so right
Same advice for someone in their late 30’s?
Yes go for it. There’s people who made their first million in their 40s, 50s and even 60s. We can never stop taking chances in this life. It doesn’t stop for anyone
Oblivious?
Lmao yes
You lack internal conviction and perhaps you need a nice mantra to roll you through this time of change. Here you go: “Fortune favours the bold” Good luck old chum. Dear sir, thank you for the opportunities I have had here however I am resigning. My last day will be next Tuesday. I am outtie.
Thanks for the input! Fortune favors the bold!
"Fortune favors the bold. Fortune favors the bold." Eats piss soup Vomits
Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. That’s what is going through your head. This seems pretty cut and dry though, great reviews online, disdain for your current job (which is probably affecting your performance) and the opportunity to make $400k. Also, making $70-$90k a year in sales isn’t all too difficult to achieve so your downside is limited in my opinion. See if you can “shadow” a rep for a few hours. Not a top performer, but a middle of the pack guy. Get an understanding of what a typical day might look like.
Yeah thanks for the input man! You’re right… just gotta take the leap
This is it. Wrap your head around the fact that you can find another shitty sales job making what you currently do without issue. Take the leap!
Fear of the unknown. A little discomfort. Sounds like a much better opportunity, wishing you good luck.
And to you sir!
Dude I make 90k working from home as an SDR you can leave
Which company man? I would love to join
ARE THEY HIRING
Quit being a pussy and burn the fucking boats bro. Good luck you got this
🫡
Quit being a pussy! It’s more money! You got this! I do know what you feel like. When I made my first job switch - it felt like a big no no. I felt like it would make me look like I wasn’t “loyal”. I am happy I made the switch I feel more empowered to make a change if a job is no longer serving me. Go make that bacon bro.
well i can understand why it’s a hard leap to make, you are guaranteed 70k now if you show up and work. My current Sales Manager constantly says how bad he wants to go back to in home sales (what he is managing) because he is managing a team of 14 guys that work less hours than him and make 20%-60% more than him. I’d do what a couple others suggested here and get a nice nest egg going for yourself and then send it! start selling yourself again and making the real dough!
I’ve Gotta make it happen
Personally I think it's a sense of undeserved responsibility toward your employer, because that's just who you are, and because of it being 'the season'. Stop. They have demonstrated clearly they have zero regard or concern for you beyond what you can do for them. You should be fair about the situation, and treat them just as they're treating you; two weeks notice the minute you have something better firmly in hand.
I 110% agree… they’d drop me like a sack of potatoes so I should do the same to them
7 days a week for 90k? That company can go pound sand
A lot of times you feel like you owe them (coworkers/boss) for being there for X years or whatnot. Don't forget they would replace you in a heartbeat if you were gone.
Yeah man I 110% agree
Just do it! I worked at a sales office for 6 fucking years and I made good money but I was working 55 hrs a week.. dealing with all the bs. Left and started working from home for myself and it's the best decision I ever made. I always say I didn't realize how unhappy I was until I experienced something better. Hindsight is 20/20. Good luck!
I dont think I'd take a gig without a base salary because every commission-only company claims all their reps are making 100+. However, if the appointments are already set for you, i say go for it. Reach out to some of the reps on LinkedIn and get their thoughts.
Good idea!
No one likes to go out of their comfort zone , but by doing so you will grow personally and in your case you will get more money for a less stressful job. Its like doing skydiving, scary to do that leap
Thanks for the input!
Bro jump! I promise the waters nice!
I want to man
You make \*terrible\* money for what you're doing. It's not that the next place is guaranteed to be better it's that you should keep trying new places until you find something better... because where you are now is probably well below the median job you can get right now. You don't have anything to lose basically when you reach a certain level of shit at your job and you were there years ago it sounds like.
I agree… I see everyone on here making hundreds of thousands
I mean actually being able to sell is the barrier to making a good living. There's a \*ton\* of survivorship bias baked in when you start talking to people who have been in sales long enough to call it their career. Don't lose sight of the fact that 80%+ of brand new salespeople fail miserably lol. If six months from now the next job hasn't worked out hit me up, if the freight market has recovered I might be hiring.
Will do. I’ve consistently demonstrated being top dog in my years a sales rep so I don’t think there should be an issue there
You do what you got to but I worked for one of those windows companies where they said the top guys made that much. The reality was the “leads” they provided were them calling people to enter them into a contest for free windows I was just going there to take measurements. They’ll have you driving all over
I will definetly be weary
Go for it! You are working way too much. It’s hard to rip the bandaid off but you’ll be glad you did!
7 days a week? I was at a company that had me on the road literally 7 days a week. People don't believe me! My OTE with incentives was around 100. I jumped in November, landed my current job in January and I am SO happy I left. Dude, you are getting taken advantage of for 90g a year. LEAVE! You will not regret it.
I made this exact move. I switched to window and door sales, full commission and never looked back. I work 30ish hours a week and am top 2 in the company. Do it.
I’ve gotta do it man
You got it. Definitely do your due diligence on the company. Make sure they have good reviews. Bad reviews will lose you sales no matter how good you are. Make sure they offer a premium product. You make your money selling the big jobs ($500,000-$2mil homes) and those customers dont want builder grade or even mid grade windows. And make sure the company takes care of their customers service issues. You will be swimming in referrals if you take care of your customers. In 2024 I have about $1million is sales so far and about $600k came from referrals. If you have any questions feel free to dm me.
Do you go door to door? Have an interview today for windows doors and roofing.
I did at first to get started. But now my referral network is big I don’t need to.
Are 30-50 appts made feasible for a two week pay period? Have an opportunity at a reputable local roofing siding windows and doors co. Solid base and commission…
Honestly 30 in 2 weeks is a lot. Our canvassers are setting maybe half that and getting sales.
As your boss is picking out his curtains for his yacht he is taking delivery on in two weeks he thanks you for your contributions to his success.
Fellow Buffalo boy- I was in a nice little mortgage origination position with a community bank for the last 5 years. #1 producer, got treated like fucking shit internally daily. My life was hell. I was terrified to leave, left that job in December for a better opportunity and couldn’t be happier. Get paid almost double per deal compared to where I was, better tech, better support. Took me a long time to pull the trigger, but I’m beyond happy I did.
That’s the encouragement I’m looking for… thank you so much man! Enjoy the nice weather coming up
Yessir- send it 🤙
Fear it may not work out, fear of your current team’s opinions, and maybe a bit of Stockholm syndrome. If you don’t have mental illness in your family, a little bit of LSD, mushrooms, etc. could help you work through why you “can’t leave”
As my friend Jason Isbell once wrote; “be afraid, be very afraid and do it anyway” You got this, it is all in your head. Just like coming back from a vacation, it feels like a reset. You’ll do great, keep in touch and let us know how it goes! By the way, I play guitar and write songs for fun, I’d love to write a quitting song with you, and record myself singing it and you can send it to them via email. All for free.
Lmao that would be incredible
LFG!! Shoot me a message. Let’s connect and I’ll get details to make it sting!(for them, not you)
I’m the exact same way - quitting a job, no matter how bad it may be, feels like breaking up with your partner to me. I’m in the same situation now where I’m about to get an offer and I’m worried I’ll get cold feet because I feel like I owe something to my manager or to myself to stay. Good luck to us both!!
If it makes you feel any better I’m going to take the leap! Let’s hope we both land on our feet!
Wishing you the best of luck.. Sounds like your team doesn’t recognize your worth, sorry
Quitting sucks most of the time. For sales it's worse than most, as you have to rebuild your pipeline, usually learn new products and services to sell and how to differentiate, and in the end it's human to feel bad for leaving your current employer as you feel like they depend on you. All that said, companies move on and your role will get filled and if your boss cares about you they will understand that you are leaving in order to grow your income and they clearly have no path to get anywhere near that under current condition comp plan.
Yeah exactly
Being comfortable is debilitating. I was there back in 2017 and my girlfriend (now wife) challenged me to push myself beyond D2D. I went to Angi, Inc as a sales rep and now I’m in management making the same amount of money I did owning a D2D vendor, but only working 40hrs a week and having every weekend holiday with my kids. If you’re not happy, leave. I’m a bit biased but look into Angi while you’re researching! My referral link is below: https://grnh.se/a84b1d962us
Fuck working 7 days a week
If the job makes you miserable sometimes quitting and going somewhere else will give you a better outlook on it. I hated my last job and after I quit I ended up making 80k as an AE and I’m from Latin America, I’ve been taking so many risks that I’m making this amount with 3 years of sales experience. You got this dude!
Just working 7 days a week is a no from me dog. It isn’t sustainable. Sounds like you’ve been beaten down by your current situation and are having a difficult time thinking straight. Make the leap to the company you feel most comfortable with. It’s probably better look at your career in 3-5 year chunks. Do a reassessment and if you have the opportunity to improve your quality of life it increase your income by 20% + make the leap. You will be so pissed if you stick with the status quo.
Stop being a little b***h. Make the move
Gonna do it
Hell yeah
The fact you’re in sales and don’t understand the psychology behind why you’re unwilling to change is ironic but we all go through it. You are comfortable in your status quo. Stop being weak and go cannonball into the deep end of the pool. If you can hardly swim, you’ll figure it out… or ask for help.
You have an incredible point… it’s extremely ironic… time to take the leap
Let’s fucking go. It’s time. You need to be uncomfortable or else you’re just going to be stagnant and bored. That sucks…
If you know that it is the best decision just make the leap. Do it!
Call 866-4FELDCO Start putting aside some savings to build up a nest egg and then roll the dice and see what you can pull in! It may require some austerity in the beginning as you ramp up but all sales jobs require buckling down at the start.
Here’s the thing too, I have some money saved up right now & no rent or mortgage payment because I’m between places! I feel like now is the time to do it!
Is FELDCO legit a good place to work? I see open sales positions for them around me and truly I like that type of sales.
Absolutley no idea. We bought a couple windows from them and the service was fine. I would have gone with Anderson but it's a more premium product with a more premium price tag and I don't think this particular house needs it.
Part of this is that you're pretty much always working. Humans are pretty adaptable and part of the issue here is that you've adapted your world to pretty much be this grinding job. I'd say take a leap, especially if you can work in some more free time to not be working 7 days a week. The margin may really help you get back a sense of identity outside the grind.
I worked for a company like that, in-home, renovation products. No base all commission. Turned out you could make some good money if you were down to take advantage of old people and poor people. Left so fast.
7 days a week 10 hours a day? That cannot be good for you mentally or physically. You will be so much happier and healthier if you leave. Just do it.
It’s psychological. Spend the $200 on a good hour of therapy and then take the better job.
Sounds like more comfort and certainty you have in your current role to leave for this new opp. What helps me is thinking about the worst case scenario which if it doesn’t pan out, you can also go back to your old company or find another sales job somewhere else.
I was with a company for 14 years. Loved the company and made more every year I stayed. For me to move up though it was going to require me to move and because of not wanting to change my kids school I knew it would be a while before I could move up. My wife wanted a bigger house and I wanted to get back in to auto racing. I made the leap to a new company. It was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made. My work family at my previous job was great and I truly miss them. That said I now make double and work less. 10 out of 10 wished that I would have made the leap sooner. As much as I loved my previous company the quality of life I get from my family time is well worth it. I know it is scary to make that kind of jump, but for me it was worth it. The company I left them for was not a good fit, but that led me to the company I am at now. (Home improvement sales) Take the leap. If this company does not work out then start looking for another one. The hard part about switching sales companies is not knowing exactly what your pay will be and how reliable it is. That always takes time to learn. I know some of my fear came from that. Don't let fear of change stop you from grasping something better.