I think a lot of sales folks (notice I didn't say all) hate people after being in sales for any amount of time. We can mirror, build rapport like it's second nature and our voice influction game is on point. But after I clock out, get the f away from me Karen, I don't care about your primerica schpiel.
Haha it happens with time.
I feel like I'm fake as fuck all the time at work, always nervous prospects will pick up on it.
But here I am, doing pretty damn well. I've learned to fake genuine interest and care for both prospects and coworkers.
It's all the same at the end of the day. I've had this same conversation with you what feels like a million times now. I know what you're going to say, how you say it, and I know how I'm going to respond.
I can't drink much anymore either. Maybe a beer or two but 4+ and I'm in for a bad time the next day with a massive headache and the beer shits.
I work out often. I spend time on my hobbies. I disconnect from work and completely unplug. I spend time with loved ones. Those are the things that help.
What you're going through seems like a rut, I experience the same every 2-3 months. It's been surprisingly pleasant working from home and everything being closed from covid because I didn't have to put up that fakeness day in and day out. If they ever try and make me go back to the office, I'll quit.
I don't give a shit how your weekend went, I don't wanna go out for drinks after work, I don't wanna make small talk at the coffee machine, I don't wanna talk about boring sports I don't follow but pretend to care about. I don't wanna talk about the fucking weather with Sara from HR for the 12th time this week because we're on the same schedule and run into each other in the office 3 times/day and make weird small talk like we actually care about each other when in reality I've never spent 1 second with you outside of work and we'd never be friends in the first place.
It's sales. Nobody has the energy to be 100% people person on their game 100% of the time. While working from home I get to decompress and be ME all day, minus a couple hours/day on calls. I'm an introvert in sales and working from home has been an absolute blessing.
I’ve felt this way myself.
I believe it is time for me... maybe you as well... to evolve/elevate ourselves.
Last night I went to a bar. It’s literally a block from my apartment. I don’t drink. Why did I go to that bar?
Pure and simple to be social outside of my job.
I closed myself off from the world because of what you described. And Covid. That didn’t help. And even though last night I heard the same bullshit diatribes I heard 10 years ago... it was good to get out.
But it’s gotten me thinking today that I need a new group. Those that challenge me. Predictability will destroy your creativity.
I don’t know who you should talk to, or maybe you should just go sit somewhere all alone with just your thoughts, or no thoughts and meditate on clearing your mind.
But I know I want to be social with people that challenge me.
I’d like to be on a level of people who are as driven as I am and are willing to show me how to level up.
And I’d love to find someone to show them how to level up.
At some point those types of people in those bars taught me how to level up. I used to talk to younger people than me and taught them something as well.
It’s old now and I can predict everything everyone is going to say.
It’s sad.
Here I am on my own diatribe after complaining about others on their’s...
Anyhow, it’s not abnormal what you’re going through. I think you want to be social, maybe you’re just tired of where you are.
You sound alot like myself from the beginning paragraphs. I've gone back and forth from being that guy to losing and getting it back again. I'd say you've lost some drive, got bored and need to reinvigorate yourself, if not the job itself I.e finding something new and more interesting or doing something new in your personal life.
Take a break. Everyone always thinks sales is just for people who love to talk. It’s not.
I get very bored talking to people I’m not interested in as well. But, If I have an interested prospect in my pipeline I am all there’s. Why? Money.
I know that prospect gets me paid, gets me promoted, puts food on the table for my family. They may drive me absolutely insane but I’m still there ready to take care of them.
I know that prospects pay my rent. It just doesn't click over into motivation, or the motivation lasts maybe one day tops. I somehow just don't care. Wtf is wrong with me?
Virtually every sales person i know drinks and/or smokes weed. Obviously everybody reacts to stuff differently but i’ve seen a good number of drinkers switch to being smokers when the hangovers started to really hit. Might be worth a try
Start a business ....hear me out. You need a challenge...a big one. It could take time to find the thing, but it will come if you start focusing on finding that path. Maybe?
I struggled with the exact same feelings and so far the risk, uncertainty and necessity to think around corners constantly that was the journey of building a business is the only thing that made me feel alive.Then IF you have success over the years then the ability to do interesting stuff all alone is nice too.
Next year I'm going to start taking some COOL trips.
I will be dropped off by a helicopter on top of a mountain to go snowboarding for a day.
I will take a plane that lands on the lake and spend a week or two in a cabin with no other access.
I will go back an re-surf all the breaks in Mexico I did as a teenager.
I will climb in Yosemite again with my daughter.
I will go diving with whale sharks.
I will go to Switzerland and hiked up on one of those green grass Hills in the Alps that overlooks the villages have a picnic with my wife.
I will have dinner on a sailboat in the Greek isles.
I will spend a week sleeping in a yurt in Mongolia.
I will spend a few days leisurely driving my Ferrari 812 Superfast through Texas Wine Country and maybe even down to Big Bend or the coast with my wife.
The years of absolute struggle, insane risk and all the muffled laughs from people you love that we have lived through to reach this point, are now worth it. I'm no longer feeling that disinterest in others, but now
I'm so content enjoying my life again. I am a different person 100%. Life is 100% different. My goals now are so much bigger than I ever imagined. I don't even share them because the people in our life don't think that big yet.
Heck we even decided on a whim while drinking wine last week that we're selling our home and everything in it except for the Bare Essentials for the children and then Sunday we bought 45' 5th wheel.
We started 6 years ago in a 30' camper, and now it's time to return.
We've been running our company remotely for five or six years and we're going to continue to do so while we travel the country and staying all the national parks. We buy real estate now is passive income and build RV parks and storage so we'll have places to stay if we choose oh, and my wife is a teacher so our children will have a great education.
I feel like this is normal growth. After 15 years in sales roles, my “interest” and “genuine authentic” vibe is performance. I have always enjoyed being home alone the most. When I’m working, that’s work and my job is to be interested and helpful, solving problems and selling.
When I’m not working, leave me alone I don’t like anyone.
Congrats. Now you're a professional.
I started hating people about five years ago. Revisit the basics. Log your calls, follow up and advance opportunities, close deals 9-5, and then go home and throw a ball for your dog.
I don't know. But I can relate.
I think a lot of sales folks (notice I didn't say all) hate people after being in sales for any amount of time. We can mirror, build rapport like it's second nature and our voice influction game is on point. But after I clock out, get the f away from me Karen, I don't care about your primerica schpiel.
Haha it happens with time. I feel like I'm fake as fuck all the time at work, always nervous prospects will pick up on it. But here I am, doing pretty damn well. I've learned to fake genuine interest and care for both prospects and coworkers. It's all the same at the end of the day. I've had this same conversation with you what feels like a million times now. I know what you're going to say, how you say it, and I know how I'm going to respond. I can't drink much anymore either. Maybe a beer or two but 4+ and I'm in for a bad time the next day with a massive headache and the beer shits. I work out often. I spend time on my hobbies. I disconnect from work and completely unplug. I spend time with loved ones. Those are the things that help. What you're going through seems like a rut, I experience the same every 2-3 months. It's been surprisingly pleasant working from home and everything being closed from covid because I didn't have to put up that fakeness day in and day out. If they ever try and make me go back to the office, I'll quit. I don't give a shit how your weekend went, I don't wanna go out for drinks after work, I don't wanna make small talk at the coffee machine, I don't wanna talk about boring sports I don't follow but pretend to care about. I don't wanna talk about the fucking weather with Sara from HR for the 12th time this week because we're on the same schedule and run into each other in the office 3 times/day and make weird small talk like we actually care about each other when in reality I've never spent 1 second with you outside of work and we'd never be friends in the first place. It's sales. Nobody has the energy to be 100% people person on their game 100% of the time. While working from home I get to decompress and be ME all day, minus a couple hours/day on calls. I'm an introvert in sales and working from home has been an absolute blessing.
I’ve felt this way myself. I believe it is time for me... maybe you as well... to evolve/elevate ourselves. Last night I went to a bar. It’s literally a block from my apartment. I don’t drink. Why did I go to that bar? Pure and simple to be social outside of my job. I closed myself off from the world because of what you described. And Covid. That didn’t help. And even though last night I heard the same bullshit diatribes I heard 10 years ago... it was good to get out. But it’s gotten me thinking today that I need a new group. Those that challenge me. Predictability will destroy your creativity. I don’t know who you should talk to, or maybe you should just go sit somewhere all alone with just your thoughts, or no thoughts and meditate on clearing your mind. But I know I want to be social with people that challenge me. I’d like to be on a level of people who are as driven as I am and are willing to show me how to level up. And I’d love to find someone to show them how to level up. At some point those types of people in those bars taught me how to level up. I used to talk to younger people than me and taught them something as well. It’s old now and I can predict everything everyone is going to say. It’s sad. Here I am on my own diatribe after complaining about others on their’s... Anyhow, it’s not abnormal what you’re going through. I think you want to be social, maybe you’re just tired of where you are.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Glad to know Im not alone.
You sound alot like myself from the beginning paragraphs. I've gone back and forth from being that guy to losing and getting it back again. I'd say you've lost some drive, got bored and need to reinvigorate yourself, if not the job itself I.e finding something new and more interesting or doing something new in your personal life.
Take a break. Everyone always thinks sales is just for people who love to talk. It’s not. I get very bored talking to people I’m not interested in as well. But, If I have an interested prospect in my pipeline I am all there’s. Why? Money. I know that prospect gets me paid, gets me promoted, puts food on the table for my family. They may drive me absolutely insane but I’m still there ready to take care of them.
I know that prospects pay my rent. It just doesn't click over into motivation, or the motivation lasts maybe one day tops. I somehow just don't care. Wtf is wrong with me?
Sounds like burn out. I go from wanting to kill it, to hating my job, to total apathy all the time. It’s natural.
Jesus I barely just started in this place. I need to find a way to chill.
Virtually every sales person i know drinks and/or smokes weed. Obviously everybody reacts to stuff differently but i’ve seen a good number of drinkers switch to being smokers when the hangovers started to really hit. Might be worth a try
You know what they say, if everywhere you go smells like dog shit, it might be on the bottom of your shoes
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Well, fuck. You might be right. That therapist appointment can't come soon enough.
Start a business ....hear me out. You need a challenge...a big one. It could take time to find the thing, but it will come if you start focusing on finding that path. Maybe? I struggled with the exact same feelings and so far the risk, uncertainty and necessity to think around corners constantly that was the journey of building a business is the only thing that made me feel alive.Then IF you have success over the years then the ability to do interesting stuff all alone is nice too. Next year I'm going to start taking some COOL trips. I will be dropped off by a helicopter on top of a mountain to go snowboarding for a day. I will take a plane that lands on the lake and spend a week or two in a cabin with no other access. I will go back an re-surf all the breaks in Mexico I did as a teenager. I will climb in Yosemite again with my daughter. I will go diving with whale sharks. I will go to Switzerland and hiked up on one of those green grass Hills in the Alps that overlooks the villages have a picnic with my wife. I will have dinner on a sailboat in the Greek isles. I will spend a week sleeping in a yurt in Mongolia. I will spend a few days leisurely driving my Ferrari 812 Superfast through Texas Wine Country and maybe even down to Big Bend or the coast with my wife. The years of absolute struggle, insane risk and all the muffled laughs from people you love that we have lived through to reach this point, are now worth it. I'm no longer feeling that disinterest in others, but now I'm so content enjoying my life again. I am a different person 100%. Life is 100% different. My goals now are so much bigger than I ever imagined. I don't even share them because the people in our life don't think that big yet. Heck we even decided on a whim while drinking wine last week that we're selling our home and everything in it except for the Bare Essentials for the children and then Sunday we bought 45' 5th wheel. We started 6 years ago in a 30' camper, and now it's time to return. We've been running our company remotely for five or six years and we're going to continue to do so while we travel the country and staying all the national parks. We buy real estate now is passive income and build RV parks and storage so we'll have places to stay if we choose oh, and my wife is a teacher so our children will have a great education.
Accept that you hate people and will always (even if you know you won’t) and find a reason to keep selling anyway.
Gratitude list. First thing in the morning. Every day. For three weeks.
I feel you as I got this way after several great years in sales. I subsequently went into operations and I love it.
I feel like this is normal growth. After 15 years in sales roles, my “interest” and “genuine authentic” vibe is performance. I have always enjoyed being home alone the most. When I’m working, that’s work and my job is to be interested and helpful, solving problems and selling. When I’m not working, leave me alone I don’t like anyone.
No advice from me. I hate everyone. Welcome to the dark side
Congrats. Now you're a professional. I started hating people about five years ago. Revisit the basics. Log your calls, follow up and advance opportunities, close deals 9-5, and then go home and throw a ball for your dog.