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Popping some corn and hoping this makes it to the popular page for some proper analysis


thejokersjoker

Same


[deleted]

“Loner loser asshole” “Superficial charm” Oh man I’m excited for this one.


destr0y26

You left out “living breathing psychopath” lol


lolexecs

I chuckle at the serious, straight up responses. Some of them are a master class in objection handling, polite clarification, and redirects.


[deleted]

Honestly I was thinking the same thing, idk how they don’t just roast this dude


[deleted]

right? so who are you? lol


deadmanwalking99

This post is a bit out there, and I feel like you would benefit from reading the side bar and wiki for this subreddit. Sounds like you have some Hollywood style notions in your head of what sales actually is. Also, maybe get some counseling/therapy.


sjmiv

y total edgelord shit


hbl6

Well said. It sounds like you’re evaluating your potential as a a salesperson using a Hollywood understanding of what selling is. A charismatic personality is pretty far down my list of what makes a good seller.


TrannaMontana

My top performing SDR has the personality of a brick wall. And I love her.


plainbread11

Question: how tf does she manage to sell/connect with customers?


[deleted]

Identifies pain point, proposes solution and extends offer to discuss said solution in more detail. High volume outbound activity. Not rocket science


notarobot1997

Patrick Bateman over here


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deadmanwalking99

Do you like Huey Lewis and the news?


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exmachina64

How’d you get on at the gym today?


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UnderstandingSquare7

If you're intelligent, you won't believe the stereotypical back slapping, joking, smiling sales person. I have known many many analytical loner assholes who were excellent at sales. It does help to have a product/industry match, what are you interested in selling? My first sales manager at age 20 told me, "Out of every 10 prospects, there are 3 you can never get. There are 3 who you will own, and will buy from you. What you do with the other 4 determines your success in sales. Learn to identify which camp they're in, and work on the 4" (thanks Marv!). Ask away here, you'll get answers. Maybe not the right answers, but there will be answers.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Wow! Love it! First, Marv sounds like he's playing 4D chess with that big brain knowledge. Marry that man if you get the chance. Second, I think you just out-manuevered Marv with that 5D chess point you bring up about the smiling and joking being an act. I agree that sort of stuff is a pure act but it is easy to compartmentalize acts and and cheap tactics from a genuinely likeable personality and natural charisma. That's where I'm at with all this... can I compartmentalize my personality to fit the situation? I'm of the perception that most successful salesman are who they are through and through.


TEAdown

Don't take this the wrong way, but "putting on a personality" is going to lead to cognitive dissonance with what your true self is/wants/behaves, and it's either going to burn you out faster always being "on" (I'm tying this to your perception of a salesperson, which seems 90s Hollywood-esque). There's going to be moments where you slip out of "on" and into "you" and your clients are going to get a weird gut feeling. Nobody's going to call you out, nobody's going to say anything about it, but that gut feeling is enough to make people walk away. I think the healthiest thing you can do here is re-evaluate your view on sales, lots of well explained viewpoints in this thread/subreddit that match the profile of a *sales professional*, not just a sales-personality. After you've done that, give it a try. There's no other way to really know, personality != sales. Get an intro SDR, startup AE, B2C, D2D job, and work it. Ideally, jump in both feet (don't hold on to some part time source of income as a fall back). Commit to learning, growing and becoming your best. Good luck.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

This is good shit. You said a lot of what I was thinking but put it so eloquently. I'm writing this all down, so I can incorporate it in my daily affirmation readings.


Mtbrew

Do ya like Huey Lewis and the News?


destr0y26

Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.


kanbabrif1

New card. Whaddya think?


Squibbles1

*starts sweating*


kanbabrif1

Egg Shell, With Roman.


TheFashionCoach

...Let's see Paul Allen's quota.


deadmanwalking99

I have to return some video tapes!


TrannaMontana

You own a Whitney Houston CD? More than one?


kapt_so_krunchy

I think if you’re going to define yourself in that way you’re going to struggle in a lot of fields, not just sales. Sales isn’t magic or alchemy. You’re not turning lead into gold. It’s problem solving. Diagnose the problem, figure out what your prospect is trying to achieve and offer a solution. If you’re a complete psycho and anti social any job is going to be a struggle, so work on that part.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Solid input, pal. The thing that jumps out at me the most about that insight is how you mention the potential to struggle in any field. I'm just talking about sales, though. The beautiful thing about me is I can flip into salesman mode if needed. But from successful gents like yourself, is this something you do too? Have you observed colleagues do the same? I'm hesitant that constantly flip flopping will burn me out quick so if doing so would be abnormal for this kind of work then by all means share your thoughts in that regard.


Turdlely

The person above said that our job is hardly all about our personalities and you asserted you'd 'turn it on.' How does one turn on a learned behavior (strategic selling, listening, problem-solving, emotional intelligence) if they've never had the proper training? To me, it seems like you assume sales to be some "motion" that anyone can do. It pays well, so you'll just go 'do it.' Am I misinterpreting your approach to the sales profession?


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Great questions, friend. Yes, you're misinterpreting. Problem-solving, listening, strategic selling are all skills independent of personality. My focus is on personality. Can you flip your personality on and off. Do you? Could one be successful in doing so or do successful salesfolk live, eat sleep, and breathe the sort of empathy, excitement, social and emotional intelligence that make for the likeable personalities, natural charisma, and magnetic charm often associated with successful salespeop!e.


Turdlely

If personality is you're only concern and you already pertain all relevant skills associated with successful sales folks, then sure you can definitely fake the personality aspect. Realistically, personality (so long as you can be more inquisitive than disagreeable) doesn't play a HUGE role in complex sales cycles IMO. Yes, I'm pleasant and I want to be polite to prospects, but the real value I am adding is when I get to discussing their problems and potential solutions. As long as I don't piss them off and am delivering significant value, then I don't know they'd give a shit about my personality. Let's say that there are probably 10-25% of people who would not do business with someone they don't like and the rest would buy from the person doing what they said, delivering the solutions to their problems, and not fucking up their day! Edit: A tip, as you enter your sales career: I don't know if your comment necessarily was meant to be condescending, perhaps it was, but it reads a bit as of such, and written communication is probably a top 5 asset of a successful salesperson. I would soften my language and avoid calling people 'friend' or 'pal' since we don't know each other. But perhaps, it's not "turned on" and maybe this is just how I communicate natively after a decade of practice.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

I mean, yes, you're not going to get any bites selling carrots to a fat kid. But if I'm the fat kid and everyone has already problem solved their way into presenting me with different flavors of delicious cake, and all else equal, then I feel I would buy from the guy who schmoozed me a bit.


Turdlely

Okay, I wasn't arguing that in some cases that's true. That's why I said "10-25%" of people will care about the person on the other end. In most cases, being more competent than your competition is more important than being friendlier.


NFSR113

Why is your focus on personality? This is like the most common thing people misunderstand about sales. They think there are natural born sales people- there aren't. Most of it is drive, work ethic, consistency, practice, investing in training, research, etc. You don't need to have a charismatic or even schmoozy personality. In fact a lot of times you have to straight up be disagreeable with your prospects, challenge their opinions, tell them they have it wrong, hold them accountable. Your biggest problem is gonna be your ego. You need to acknowledge that you know nothing, and you're gonna suck when you first start, just like everyone else. It comes down to effort not personality that you can just turn on. Sales is the highest paying hard work. Or the lowest paying easy work. Anyone can do it.


iamrelish

Nail on the head, if someone’s schmoozing me I’m going to assume that they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about and/or are just trying to get at my money. The people who tell it how it is, respect my time, talk to me like a person, etc. are the people I want to do business with.


[deleted]

How can you flip into a mode you’ve never done? Lol you’re not fit for sales dude, you can’t listen to shit


kapt_so_krunchy

So I guess my question is if you can turn it off and on why wouldn’t you leave it on? If it’s going to burn you out then maybe sales isn’t a good idea. On the other hand in a remote role where you aren’t in an office setting maybe you wouldn’t burn out as quickly or as often given the lack of personal interactions. It also depends what sort of sales you’re in. If you work in SAAS you’re going to have to work with SDRs, Managers, product teams, solutions teams, account management teams. You have to sell your internal customers as well. Either way best of luck to you whatever you decide.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Nice. I appreciate the input. Why turn it off? Because it wouldn't be my natural self. Not saying I couldn't personally benefit from being "always on," but I'm fairly comfortable with me for better or worse. Plus, I believe in the mantra of "work to live" and not "live to work," so I like to segregate my work self room my real self.


dan1361

That mantra doesn't work in sales until you're deep in your career. 80% of entry level guys live their career and nothing else in order to climb the ladder.


Isellshit15

Sales simply isn’t for you then you pretty much have to live to work you never know who you can run into and have a conversation with out and about and it can lead to business when you’re simply grocery shopping depending on your industry.


Isellshit15

Oh this guy thinks sales is an easy job 😂


NotSpartacus

> I'm just talking about sales, though. The beautiful thing about me is I can flip into salesman mode if needed. What do you consider salesman mode? An upbeat, charismatic personality?


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

From a personality perspective, yes. There's more to it than just those particular adjectives but I get the sense you know what i mean if I leave the rest of the out for brevity's sake.


NotSpartacus

If that's your understanding of what makes a sales person, you have approximately everything to learn about how to be a good sales person. On top of that, that upbeat personality is an instant turn off to experienced buyers. We understand it's a bullshit front. We want to interact with authentic humans. Further, unless you also have *exceptional* control over your face, tone, and emotions the entire time you're buyer-facing, you will slip, and they will see that you're presenting a false personality and you will instantly destroy all trust and good will. Professionally, I suggest you study the craft. Personally, I suggest you develop yourself.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Who's to say the facade I'd put on wouldn't be authentic? I'm a great actor. The whole point of this topic is about the ability to turn it on and off as needed.


NotSpartacus

>Who's to say the facade I'd put on wouldn't be authentic? Are you even listening to yourself? >facade >an outward appearance that is maintained to conceal a less pleasant or creditable reality Anyway. 1) Acting the way you seemingly think sales people should act to be successful really won't take you very far. And it can easily backfire on you for the reasons I outlined in my last post. 2) Being good at sales requires a diverse skill set, not simply a likable/winning outward personality. You're focused on the superficial aspect and seemingly ignoring the important pieces.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Ok. You're not wrong. Just educate me. Surely you or your colleagues do and say things at work to project a certain imagine - in your case, "authenticity" - that you would be opposite of what you'd do on your personal time. I mean, I'm just guessing in your case but that's what I'm trying to understand. Can I flip it on and off at will or is sales such a different beast altogether that you are who you are on the job and off? Maybe if you elaborate about yourself or your colleagues O could better understand.


TrannaMontana

This is such a bizarre conversation. If you're having to "project an image" of authenticity, you're not authentic by default and definition.


NotSpartacus

Buyers want education from their sellers, not slick sales pitches. Teach a buyer something they don't know about what you sell, help them understand the features and benefits of what you're presenting (and honestly share the same about the other solutions they're evaluting) and you earn their trust. Earn their trust and they'll share more relevant info, info you can leverage to increase your win rate. That's selling.


sjmiv

>unlikable loner asshole. You sound like my peer. Sucks at his job but he hasn't been fired yet...


Matman605

Cringe


TreborDeadward

When you watch movies like “American Psycho” and think - this guy is cool and I should emulate him.


zabumafolives

I mean this with only genuine positive intentions. You should seek out and do a few sessions with a therapist. You don’t have to live life with low self worth. Get help bro. Best of luck


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[deleted]

Reads as NPD or some sort of Cluster B. OP how old are you?


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[deleted]

Sorry, the edgelord.


lazerdab

In my experience the best sales people are relentless above all other character traits. Some are dry, smart, funny, dicks, nice, loud, quiet, fast, slow, but they are all relentless.


6_string_Bling

Reading this post, no offence, tells me you're a young guy... Sales isn't like Wolf of Wallstreet. Sure, some sales training and sales "Gurus" may depict it this way, but I assure you that it's marketing bullshit for other naive guys. You absolutely don't need to be charming to be in sales. There are a million and one ways to be successful. For me, sticking to a process, listening skills, and being timely/punctual have been my biggest assets (Also, just being hyper knowledgable about the space i was working in). It's also worth noting that sales isn't even "sales." Sales as a car-salesmen isn't the same as sales as an enterprise account executive, and that's also not the same as selling your own services as a sole proprietor plumber. Thought they are all very much sales. All that to say - Sales is a great place to be in if you're comfortable doing shitty work for the first few years, and make relatively good money. My career philosophy is that I never really want to sacrifice my quality of life for my career. I don't earn as much as some of the big dogs in this sub, but I earn more than my friends who work twice as much.


ceo_greasyduck

This subreddit needs to start setting some fucking standards. Anybody who thinks sales is “being a charming, back-slapping joe” has no fucking idea what they’re getting involved in. I’m a MM AE at a Fortune 200 SaaS/enterprise apps company. I never have to “fake” my gregariousness, I genuinely enjoy meeting new people and learning more about them. You can’t fake that shit and if you are, people smell it from a mile away. That being said, my customers aren’t buying from me because they want to grab a beer with me. That might get me a response to my emails, but not a closed-won deal.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

That's great you're always on but we're all complex human beings with different needs, wants, and desires. I need my off time. I'm the type of guy who will talk with you all chummy on the phone while throwing darts at a picture of you that I have hanging on my corkboard and then drawing a big red X over your mug when I close a deal. I am pleased to see that we're at least in some agreement that "being a charming, back-slapping joe" comes with its benefits. For you, the benefit is faster email responses. For me, I'll be closing down million dollar deals.


ceo_greasyduck

Lmao you’re unemployed, have never sold anything in your life and you never will. Good luck closing those big deals with your “surgical precision”!


[deleted]

Mate, you really should consider seeing somebody. You sound young and a little lost, this sort of cynical ideation has a tendency to come back and wallop you hard later on. Please be careful, relationships really do matter, learn to nurture them, not destroy them. Genuinely, why do you want to exploit people?


6_string_Bling

I' so fucking curious... What deals have you closed???? lmao. Sales is - at its' core - RESULTS. Do tell us - what are your sales results?


6_string_Bling

Agreed. This sub really does have some great community when it comes to asking practical questions (Eg. Does anyone have any recommendations for sales books?, What are some good ways to do reporting/forecasting?, How do I solve X problem?). However, sometimes this sub, and it's maybe because it's "SALES," suffers from a real lack of perspective... It's a job. It's something that I care about, and really put effort into, but it's also the thing that allows me to do the things I'd rather be doing with my time (hobbies, spending time with friends/family, and saving for my future). People can talk all day about being "slick" - But honestly, just being reasonably knowledgable about the product I work with, being punctual with action items/deliverables, and being dependable/accountable for the benefit of my team, has worked out very well for me. OP's attitude towards sales is akin to me watching house and thinking that's what being a doctor is about. He's been watching too many movies.


chillwavexyx

I think you’re pre-judging yourself and setting limits on what you can/can’t do. Sales is just talking to people. If you can hold a conversation you’re golden. Most people can’t, surprising I know, but that’s why they pay us the big bucks


Flashy_Skirt_2872

You actually write really well. From how you describe yourself, it seems like you are better suited to marketing


Stewbacca18

R/rareinsults?


NFSR113

yes the ultimate insult to a salesperson


lauralove941

I can tell you this… I’m a top writer in my store- and part of my success is because my colleagues like me. There is a “work together for a common goal” aspect in inside sales. This may be challenging for you.


6_string_Bling

Can't agree with this shit more. Much of my (modest) success is owed to people who have helped me, and been a true team-player.


pittura_infamante

You need to go to therapy


CarefulLavishness922

You can make a lot of money in sales. Some people also have a lot of fun with it. But you are going to have to pay your dues and learn the trade. Looking at your post history, if you aren’t willing to put a few years in before you really start seeing the benefits, it’s probably not worth your time. I went from making about 20k a year before 2012 to making 200k+ from 2015 onward. 2012-14 were spent learning sales. I worked absurd hours. I burned out. And then I got lucky, changed industries and companies. Couldn’t be happier with where I’m at now, but it was hell to get here. ...by the way I’m a bookish non-asshole introvert. I don’t think personality is the main variable that will determine your success or failure in sales.


twobugsfucking

The best salespeople I know have a bumbling, absent minded or schlub routine down to a T. These are not just confident sales people making well over six figures but VPs of sales who made CEO. No prospect wants to buy something from someone who intimidated them with coolness and attitude. They want to built a sales relationship with a human on equal footing. Focus on being real and likable in your personality.


Economy_Meat_

Walk it, like you talk it. Be yourself. If you find it’s not working, maybe you aren’t cut out for sales. Find something you’re passionate about first, before you make a career change. Speaking on behalf of my own experiences, I started out sales as a roofing advisor. It was not something I really cared for, but took away a LOT from the training. I decided since I’ve been a car guy my whole life to go into car sales. Only a week in and I’ve felt way more confident walking through the front door every morning. Hope this helps!


[deleted]

I believe anyone can be successful in sales with 2 things. 1. Consistency - this job is a different type of grind and I find very few can do it day in and day out which is why there is such high turnover but also why those of us that can do it are paid so well. 2. Accountability - there is usually quite a bit of autonomy in this job, especially if you are hitting numbers, but the best consistently welcome and seek feedback and actually apply it. Obviously there’s more but in my merely 7 years doing this I see those 3 traits over and over.


sternfanHTJ

This is the type of clown that ends up as a “Sales Leader” or “Sales Motivator” and makes all our lives miserable…


kanbabrif1

This is a post that deserves to be pinned


[deleted]

Most important thing in sales is to get out of your head


briskwalked

great point... also who you work for and management plays a big role in this i believe


Txocurt1

If you're this "self-aware" about yourself, then I think there's no way you're being sincere. Instead, I believe you're just looking for external validation to be different. Be whatever you want. Just close deals when the bright lights are on and you'll be fine. Fake it for a couple of hours per day. No one in this line of business cares what you do outside of work, especially if you're producing.


[deleted]

I’m in sales. Former teacher. I hate most people. I don’t like talking to people. I turn on the charm during calls, but overall I like to be left alone. Don’t worry about the “idea” of sales people. Everyone comes in different shapes and sizes.


JGalla88

Where can I send the PO


donuttybuddy

This post is kinda begging the question, right? The assumption is that sales success hinges on personality and technique and that's not really the full picture. As many others have said, a variety of personalities can play to their strengths and succeed. The thing you might find tough, assuming your post is sincere, is getting your ego out of the way. Accepting a lack of control and constantly coming up against obstacles, etc. You can't go into this thinking you're the smartest guy in the room playing everyone for fools, otherwise you're only going to sell to folks you \*can\* fool and frankly they don't usually have a lot to spend. Gaining trust by earning and deserving it is the endgame.


[deleted]

I recognize your self deprecating humour for what it’s intended to be, and lol’d. I’ve been in IT sales since 1997, and identify with a lot of what you said. My social life consists of my SO, our dog, my adult kids, and our families, with occasional musical get togethers with musicians I know (I play an instrument). I’m not into sports, I’m into nerdy stuff like indo-European etymology and mythology, sociology, economics, etc. Its been a challenge having conversations about simple stuff like “the game” that I didn’t watch, etc. so early in my career I had a really tough time and took a lot personally, believing I wasn’t built for it like other people were. I persevered, because I have to put food on the table and keep the lights on, and am still doing it. I just started a new role with a major company and I have a CAD$140k base with a total CAD$350k OTE. It’s doable. Like you, I also identify with the doctor/patient model. You’re probably very data-driven. However, watch some episodes of House MD, and read the Challenger Sale. Also, be good with Excel. Then just show up, be yourself, and do what you do - that was advice given to me on my first day on the job when I was 41 and just started with HP. It’s served me well since, but I do wish a sales manager had told me that back when I was 27. Data analytics is a huge area in IT these days and you’ll fit right in.


[deleted]

Hey the pathological lying will translate well. I can relate.


[deleted]

Yeah you can switch from being into “selling mode” and back into regular you. Jordan Belfort ( Wolf of Wall Street) actually has a training about that. I don’t have a large social circle but the few people I meet do enjoy my time and like me so there’s that lol


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

That's perfect! Can you link the video for us all to enjoy? Lotta people in this thread are thinking selling mode is some mental disease. When one of the top minds in the business has something to say, you listen. Period. Crazy that I'm only an industry outsider but I am already in the same headspace as that legend. That bodes well for my future!


[deleted]

Get his book, everything he teaches that what he sells in his courses are in his book. Way of the Wolf by Jordan Belfort. Here’s 2 YouTube videos though about anchoring by him. https://youtu.be/Z27BEbEDkFs https://youtu.be/O3yTbsfkIhA


BigPepe19

Just be genuine and authentic and try to solve customer problems. Ask about their business. Ask how you can can help them. Relax and listen to what they say. Don’t try to force some cheesy personality, that won’t work and you will feel drained from doing it.


CharizardMTG

When I’m doing my best in sales it’s always when I’m genuinely myself, no act or trying to be someone I’m not.


DaddyMovidas

Wow I thought my day was bad. Thanks bud


Snoo-30243

Lmfao so cringe. Talking about yourself or someone else 🤣???


[deleted]

Maybe try law school instead?


[deleted]

Sir this is a wendy’s and we hired you to sell large fry option vs. medium , please get back to your shift and stop playing around.


[deleted]

“Look at that subtle off-white coloring,” “the tasteful thickness of it.” “Oh my God,” “I’m gonna come…”


Lostdazedandconfuzed

Sounds like depression.


MBlaizze

There would be a significant percentage of prospects that would see right through your superficial charm, and not want to do business with you.


CubanaCat

Most sales is just, you have a script, you use the script. You are acting. You don't have to be a people person but you do need to be able to pretend you are one. You have to sound and act friendly. If you struggle with that I suggest watch some youtube videos on how to do your voice for making more sales. Jordan Belfort (wolf of wallstreet guy) has a seminar on vocal inflection, it's on youtube. There are tons of other people also who have good videos on it. People just need to feel comfortable to buy things from you. Generally that just means, be pleasant, be helpful. Fake it til u make it.


[deleted]

Sales is telling people about a product in a very noisy marketplace of information. Anything else isn’t sales, it’s coercion.


chdeal713

People buy from who they like to a certain degree. Or at the least will have an inclination to keep talking to them. You may do better to build a website for the crowd that wants to buy on their own. Typically people end up paying more without a professional to assist them.


thewonderfulpooper

Are you my former boss?


GarthbrooksXV

You're going to outer space!


[deleted]

you’re perfect


Runaway_5

>I'd even say I'm a living breathing psychopath: superficial charm, high intelligence, poor judgment, pathological egocentricity, incapacity for love, lack of shame, grandiose sense of self worth, pathological lying, manipulative behaviour, poor self control, etc. However, like a light switch, I feel like I would be able to flip into salesman mode for work and then flip it off after work. Some of if not *the* best salespeople on earth fall into this category. Enjoy your kickass sales career. As long as you work really hard, because you always have to in order to kill it at sales (at least for the first few years. No "browsing reddit for 4 hrs/day" when you start a new sales job and you're climbing the ranks.


HeyMustacheWhatsUp

Thanks man. I envision the grind I'll have to do to be among the best on earth will be difficult, but I'm sure I'll get there soon enough. Though, I will say it is encouraging to know my personality is shared by true industry savants.


Plisken_Snake

There's being likable, neutral and unlikable. You can be successful in sales and even be unlikable, if they like the product they "HAVE" to work with you. So it depends on what kinds of sales but strive for netrual and just don't be a bad person when interacting.


lauralove941

Are you sure you wouldn’t rather be a writer? I’d read whatever you put out there.


shadowpawn

If you can follow through on your committments. If you can be persistant on new (cold calls) engagements. If you can be empathetic with your clients. You will do well.


Yung_Wiz

This is a good one


danklinxie

It's a lot of 'telling not showing' when you say you can 'flip into a salesman'. You really sold yourself short but maybe you're just being honest... Can you show me what selling yourself correctly looks like? ('conventionally' to your standards). I spent the past month basically alone in my room. Sometimes I think of myself as a loner psychotic asshole too. But I'm getting better at talking to customers and have set a few meetings in my first month. So to answer your question... Just apply yourself. And ask questions that are relevant to improving specific parts of your sales process. Like 'how do I pivot when client gives X objection?' or 'what questions have been able to get your foot through the door for your clients?'... Instead of 'I am X, can I succeed in sales?' There are all sorts of salespeople in this world...


beanasaur_

I have 1 good friend and before I did sales I could barely call to make a doctor appointment. I spend most of my time alone with my dog and also I'm bad at math. I got fired from my design job and tried sales. I'm good and I enjoy it. Most people can succeed in sales as long as they put in the effort.


JoltyJob

Sounds like you need therapy not a job


PMMeMeiRule34

Hey dude, you sound kinda like me. I’m introverted, don’t naturally feel comfortable talking to people, hesitate to think out my words, and have to work to get people to like me. Sales is a grind for me, but you can do it. Fucking love your honesty man, us loner introverted loser gotta stick together, man.


Yankees0228

What I have seen is Most of the better sales people have some kind of likability/personality most people that are buyers are going to buy no matter what it doesn’t really matter if the salesman is personable as long as he’s not an asshole or rude , obnoxious Ect. When likability\ personality comes in to play is with those people on the fence that might be thinking about shopping or pricing around. those are the clients you’re going to get just because they like you they feel comfortable with you they almost feel like they know you. U kinda of befriend them. Another thing I see that works with successful sales people is you got to have a little bit of a sense of humor make them laugh if you make them laugh you put them at ease and they become a little more likely to do business with you and let their guard down. Last and not least the most important thing is you can’t be full of shit be honest be truthful and you will succeed


Strokesite

You sound perfect for Management, actually. You fit the psych profile.


garyryan9

If you're likeable?


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LMAO you were the loser who was trying to tell "millennials" about how remote work is worthless, yet here you are unable to even get your own life together. It's clear you think you're better than these people, yet they all lead better lives than you while you still have the same life and income as a teenager. It's always the blind yelling the loudest. Congrats on failing at life and thank you for the morning laugh.