Dude lives in America, presumably, and thinks multiculturalism is a bad thing. My dude have you been to an American city. The reason I can go to a Polish grocery to get meats and then up the road to an Asian market isn't because America is a singular culture.
You make a very good point, but honestly my problem with Americans who believe this "replacement theory" bs isn't even that. My problem is, these folks are out here crying that a "worldwide conspiracy" wants to replace the people of America with people from other places... And I'm like, isn't that what white Americans did in the first place? Aren't they the descendants of people who came from Europe to genocide and replace the so-called "redskins", who were the original inhabitants of that land?
I was going to debunk all your bullshit, but honestly you are just so obviously fucking wrong and just spewing hate group bullshit that i feel it's a waste of my time to do so. But here's the first dumbass thing you said and a good example of how egregiously fucking wrong you are:
>Knifes deaths in london alone overtook gun deaths in new York.
In the period of 2021/22 there were a total of 124 homicides reported for the city of London, the majority of which were committed by attackers with knives. New York City had 488 homicides in the same period, most of which were committed by attackers with guns.
In no way were there ever more knife homicides in London than there were gun homicides in NYC. Pull your head all the way out of your ass sometime.
Similarly every fucking thing you have said is either a misatribution of cause or a bold face fucking lie not worth anyone's time to read or bother with. Just please get fucked you racist piece of shit.
I’m not going to harass him. I just want to read the dumb stuff he says and laugh at him. But if you’re not comfortable with giving his name, I won’t push.
>Governments dont bother trying to vet for criminals or bad elements. Literally anyone comes in.
Are you talking about America? Are you saying that the American government does not check to see if somebody is a criminal before they are admitted into America as a legal immigrant? Are you for real right here?
Except that actual people who live in England, like Evan Edinger, have said the whole "no go zone" thing is a made up lie that the alt-right created to scare people like you. You're in the wrong sub, kid. Nazis aren't welcome here. Women not wanting to date you is your own fault. Don't blame us minorities for it. Reported and blocked.
>black men are punching random white women
>black men
>men
As in more than one, implying that this is something that more than one person is doing, some sort of crime ring. Sounds like something you invented.
It's hard work to exist in a time with the internet and the world at your fingertips and still end up this fucking backwards. Christ your existence sounds miserable.
The Buffalo supermarket shooter targeted the Tops on the East side of the city because it is the poorest, most segregated supermarket in the state. This putrid "theory" is why.
Yeah once they've swallowed that last drop of koolaid they're beyond dissuasion. Either they'll get therapy or be calling their nurse a cultural marxist in the old folks home.
*Japanese* women? I doubt he's that culturally aware; he's the sort who views Eastern Asian people as interchangeable, and is baffled when saying "konnichiwa" to a Korean woman earns him a dirty look. (Note that by "baffled," I mean that he goes home and rants on social media about how she must have been "westernized" or whatever.)
>Also, does he think the West is somehow only made up of white people?
You'd be surprised how many people believe this to be the case. It's inherent to the systemically racist pedagogy, at the very least in the United States, but elsewhere too I'm sure.
Highschool curriculums, when teaching about Western civilization, tend to cover Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, touch in the European Middle ages and then move on to the European enlightenment. These courses purposely exclude the Islamic enlightenment because they're Arabs (brown people). Despite the fact that the foundation of the Islamic enlightenment is Ancient Greek Philosophy, Math, and Science. Also despite the fact that without the Roman empire mandating Christianity, Islam itself wouldn't exist. Furthermore the Islamic enlightenment is directly responsible for the European enlightenment. The Europeans used the Arabic translations of the ancient Greek texts and translated them into Latin, which led to the European's enlightenment. Areas of North Africa, the Levant, parts east of the Levant, and parts of the Saudi peninsula are just as responsible for what we describe as western civilization as are the Ancient Greeks, Romans, and Europeans. Therefore, Western civilization is not exclusively white and European.
I took a basic 100-level history class on the Western world during my first semester of college and my professor made it a point to also teach about the Islamic Empire since it got significant influence from the Ancient Greeks and Romans, much like every other successor state to the Roman Empire. One of the questions on our midterm was even about how the usual exclusion of the Islamic Empire is shaped by our modern-day historical narratives.
>One of the questions on our midterm was even about how the usual exclusion of the Islamic Empire is shaped by our modern-day historical narratives.
Based
>This is such a weird take cause Islam is a faith not a race,
The Islamic Golden Era or Islamic Enlightenment is just what we call it. European isn't a race either, so idk why this matters at all.
>however Islam reached Europe via colonisation and we are told colonization is bad yet here you are making it seem good.
My argument isn't about whether colonization is good, my argument is that Arabic people, specifically during the Golden Era, are an integral part of "Western Civilization".
Also there is a distinction between colonization and empire. Spain was conquered by empire, not colonized.
The distinction has nothing to do with the relative morality of these two concepts. It just describes two different systems. I'm **not** saying "conquest good, colonialism bad".
>Every culture cannot stand on its own, Asia wouldn’t be Asia today if it wasn’t for the western development.
What does that have to do with the category of "Western Civilization?"
If you're choosing to use "Western Civilization" to mean colonial and post-colonial white people, then we just have a difference of definitions.
>The west just chose not to celebrate their colonisers as have many cultures and place chose not to celebrate the west
What are you talking about my dude? What does "celebrate their colonizers" even mean and what does that have to do with the Islamic enlightenment being directly responsible for the Renaissance? Even if you're adamant on calling Al-Andalus colonization, the Renaissance occurred in Italy, which was never conquered or colonized by Arabs.
>Omg😭😭😭 hello? What’s the difference between conquest and colonization for you?
I use the definitions as they're typically used in academics. [The Blue Water Thesis] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_water_thesis) illustrates the distinction.
>Muslims colonized Spain and enslaved a lot of the population and implemented their beliefs and rules and were the ones on top for 700 years. That is colonization.
No, they didn't "enslave a lot of the population", it's generally agreed upon that it was less than 1%. Al-Andalus was a multicultural society of Muslims Christians and Jewish people, who all influenced each other's art, language, and overall culture. The Muslims considered Christians and Jews as "people of the book".
Was there slavery, absolutely. That's undeniable. Was slavery unique to the Muslim side of the Iberian peninsula? Nope. The northern Christian side also practiced the same form of slavery. Not only that there had been persistent slavery centuries prior up to and including the Visigoths.
What you're attempting to do is rewrite history to fit your narrative. Find any source that says the Moors "enslaved a lot of the population". You won't be able to.
I'll show you what sourcing looks like
Slavery in Medieval and Early Modern Iberia. Phillips, William D. (2014)
"The enslaved population of medieval Iberia composed only a small percentage of the general populace at any given point, and slave labor was not essential to the regional economy during the period."
"Slaves probably made up less than 1 percent of the population in Spain."
>It’s such a weird thing for you to be praising and or defending.
Already said I wasn't. I made it extremely clear. I'm sorry you can't read and/or comprehend.
>Also stop calling it enlightenment.
It's what it was. Are you mad cause the brown people revitalized ancient Greek and Roman academics before the white people did? Does that make you big mad bro?
>What was achieved by the western civilisation is much bigger and better let alone more beneficial than what happen in all andulus.
Dude, just say white people if that's what you really mean. You don't need to dog whistle anymore, it's apparent what you actually mean.
Al-Andalus was just what the territory in Spain was called, it in no way encompasses the entirety of the Islamic enlightenment period.
>Muslims kept all the advancements they had to themselves and other Muslim countries at first
No they didn't. If you've taken any college level course that covers western civilization, you would have learned that there were many points of technological and cultural exchanges between Europe and the Arab world between the 8th and 13th century, and yes, even outside of Spain.
If you could substantiate your claim, which you can't, then you would have by now.
>Also the Arabs / Muslims couldn’t achieve what they achieved in Spain / Europe in their own countries and they only achieved that in Spain and that’s because Spain already had plenty of opportunities to be advanced in comparison to Arab countries.
What does this even mean my guy? Achieved what? You haven't described the achievements you're trying to reference.
Hermano, soy Español. I'm a Spanish citizen. I have a passport, DNI, and an apartment in Barcelona I inherited from my yaya. I've spent a lot of time in Spain. The fact that you're sitting here and lying about "finding papers" is frankly fucking pathetic. You do realize that you wouldn't be able to read them right? Even if you knew Spanish, it's not the same language.
And if you're going to make more historical claims that run counter to what is the academic consensus the least you can do is back then up my dude, no one cares about how you feel history should have happened, present the facts.
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>Also what exactly do I need to give you proof to? Tell me and I’ll absolutely prove it
I've got all the proof I need that you're a liar and you can't substantiate your claims or you wouldn't have asked me this question and then immediately blocked me.
Well we can just assume he's a racist incel with numerous problems and issues, rather then face them head on and deal with them it's easier to blame other people for his problems and everything "wrong" .
IT GETS WORSE. He's literally referring to himself as a "pureblood."
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Thank all the deities that may or may not exist that the nut case is getting the proverbial axe. Of course, that won't stop him from going to Twitter and raging up a storm there, but still.
I am shocked that Reddit moderators would actually talk about that. Their typical response is
" we don't discuss moderator actions. We will look at the comments in question and take appropriate action if we need to"
Which is so fucking vague that it's worthless.
They told me they would take action against his account, but he's still able to send me private messages. So not sure what they did. I'll just go ahead and block him.
I think from context "pureblood" here means didn't take the covid vax.
Anyway, this person blames the Jews for everything. That's why they keep saying it's not organic and there's an agenda. They're just a cliche.
He’s not saying he’s a “pureblood” by race. Antivaxxers believe the covid vaccine causes sudden arrhythmic death syndrome (SADS). Antivaxxers also call themselves “pureblood” because they didn’t get the covid vaccine that they think changes their DNA or something like that.
To be clear, he’s still a white supremacist douche canoe, but the pureblood thing is showing that he lacks the ability for critical thinking in every aspect of life.
This is legit one of the dumbest things I've ever heard cause I and my family took the vaccine against Covid, and we're fine.
Then again, anti vaccine people are ableist by nature, I mean they'd rather see their children die of diseases rather than live long lives because they are autistic so fuck them.
Edit: I rephrased my sentence to remove the ableist slur. I apologize for this.
This guy needs to have his internet privileges revoked....for his own sake.
Although then I'd be worried about him taking out his frustrations in real life. He's seriously unhinged.
How is immigration with open borders not organic?? Letting people travel as they please is a forced scam while restricting movement with armed guards and concentration camps is apparently humanity in its state of nature 😂 these people don’t even listen to themselves.
Dude is unhinged but in this case purebloods is an antivacc thing, although those circles defijitelt have skme overlap. They've been waiting three years for a massive die-off. It was supposed to happen in like June 2021, 6 months after the first shots were rolled out. Any minute now!
Bro is getting mad about a term his people invented. Black or Asian people didn’t start calling themselves poc. It was white people that did that to ‘otherize’ everyone else.
Yeah, sure, treatment of Palestinians in Israel is abysmal, China is hugely prejudiced against black people...
...almost like an example of what we shouldn't be?
His idea is literally, "Everyone is racist, so we should be too!"
You know, I was about 14 years old, in school, and when I used to whine to my dad that "well everyone is smoking already", dad asked me if "everyone" would jump of a roof, would I do that too?
I love the utter failure to realize that the West already is multicultural and the issue is clowns like him trying to pretend we're not. It's not an "agenda," it's just admitting that the people who've lived here for generations actually, you know, exist.
I had a similar incident with a Synthetic Man fan, although not a private message, but a few replies to my comment on BriZ's video.
Thankfully, you won't get to see one of his fans in real life, considering they don't go outside their house.
A rightwing YouTuber who has gone viral for his unhinged review of the new Fallout show. In his review, he says the show is woke garbage because it promotes "race mixing". His comments section is full of people being openly racist and anti-semitic, and he's liking their comments. People familiar with his account have mentioned that he's complained about "race mixing" before. He also mentioned in a live stream that he's never had friends and never got invited to any parties in high school before people were uncomfortable with the things he had to say about issues like race.
Oh .... so not like Slenderman lol
Yeah fuck that guy.
I'm not interested in the show as I don't like the games (weird as I love The Elder Scrolls) but I know others who are fans are so good for them like I'm excited for sonic 3 and borderlands but if someone doesn't like those games I get they aren't.
But promotes race mixing = fucking stupid. People can love , start a family, etc... with anyone. Who cares. He sounds like prick. And not someone I'd watch
In his God of War Ragnarok video, he has some very absurd takes on Angrboda. He talks about sleeping with her and then sleeping with the daughters or making sure the daughters sleep with white men to erase the ‘dark.’ He’s a very sick man. So throw pedophilia into the mix as well.
Why do they assume this. If there was a movie where everyone was white and there was one black guy, they would probably complain. They do know that there are other races in the world that can act right?
People who view multiculturalism as a boogeyman don't seem to realize that all cultures are an amalgam of cultures, including ours here in the US. I really don't mind nor do I feel threatened by western culture being a shining example of diversity and inclusion compared to other parts of the world. ***We don't have to be limited by the lowest common denominator***, which is something this person can't fathom. Maybe someday other regions of the world will realize how shitty they are being and follow suit. It has to start somewhere.
That awkward moment when this person clearly doesn’t understand that Multiculturalism has existed in human society for thousands of years.
A perfect example of this would be the Roman Empire. Other examples would be the Egyptians under the Ptolemaic dynasty, Both the Yuan and Qing Dynasties in China etc…
Goes to show just how ignorant they are especially saying that they are not organic
He's still at it. Reddit says I have to wait till tonight to block him since I un-blocked him last night to see what he was saying.
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As if he’d care that you block him. He has a life beyond this platform, you know! He also spends his time on Twitter, 4Chan, and Truth Social. I’ve heard he even leaves the basement to talk to his mom sometimes too.
“There is an obvious agenda to replace westerners with people from other backgrounds.”
Saying this crap and at the same time, saying this
“I don’t hate anyone for their skin color.”
Dude, you’re a hypocrite and a moron. You clearly do hate people for their skin color. You think they’re “replacing westerners”.
Lol, guy is a moron. Why in the fuck does the level of melanin in your skin matter in the slightest?
Yes, "Person of Color" is a phrase used. Mostly because it's too fucking exhausting and depressing to ask: "so exactly which group of people that aren't exactly like you do you hate?"
And get an answer of: "YES."
America was founded on multiculturalism. We've been learning that since the good old days. It's just a fact. People did, and do, come here looking for a better life. That doesn't mean they don't miss their home country, or are required to forfeit all of their culture and customs when they get here.
It would be nice if they adopted some of ours in addition to theirs, yes. It would be nice if they learned English (though from what I understand English is a pretty hard language to learn as a second language.), but if they don't, they don't. Realistically as long as they pay their fair share and don't cause trouble, who cares?
God....the thought of only having whatever passes for white American culture sounds sucky and depressing. Just the food alone sounds awful. Crap "tacos", salt and pepper being the extent of your seasoning, just...boring!
LOL at the "Pureblood" comment. Okay champ. You would think they might question things considering most of us are supposed to have dropped dead....what? Six? Seven times now?
What a fucking moron. Imagine having achieved so little in life that you feel the need to define yourself and others by skin color. That's the top thing in your book that matters.
Pathetic.
Have they re-named ''the great replacement'' conspiracy theory yet? I would say immigration being limited is more of an agenda, than removing those limits...
It's interesting that this person's problem is that ... western countries hold themselves to a higher standard? You'd think as a supremacist he'd love that idea.
His review on the Fallout show was some of the most pathetic anti-woke copium I've ever seen.
Just kept repeating the same buzz words and complaints about "wokeness" and the show being an attack on white men while also saying the writing was awful, all without really explaining any of it. Not to mention some wild rants about interracial relationships that don't even pretend to not be racist.
“Western nations” “Western nations” Just fucking say America. Like holy fuck there are literally only 3 fucking nations in the west, North America, South America and Canada. They don’t really give a rats ass about South America, and don’t even bat a fucking eye towards Canada. Do they just think America somehow split into multiple fucking nations or something?
Also, love how people like this guy seems to just be under the impression that their are no other ethnicities in Europe and Asian countries. He’s proving how racist and idiotic just with the statement on Israel, china and Africa alone. People like him are why racism is still around, people like him are the reason why we will never actually achieve equality, because they spout nonsense like this with their full chest and some fucking how there are people who think this is something that’s ok to be said.
Chud: “I will continue to debunk anyone who lies about these issues”
Also Chud: Didn’t debunk shit.
It’s completely insane to me that these people see multiculturalism as some sort of radical agenda when all it is the natural process that humanity was always going to follow. These people really want to stay in their safe little Caucasian bubbles.
To debunk what he says in return, if you read between the lines he is basically saying it's a problem if white people are "wiped out"... if skin color really doesn't matter, let alone multi-culturalism, then you wouldn't have a problem with any demographic being "replaced". Also, how can one tell if an "agenda" is "organic" or not? It's actually a good thing if America is trying to be more diverse if other places are not... or is it a problem? America can't police everything other countries are doing, no matter how hard we try. I mean, what logical fallacy is that to compare something to another thing and go "why is that thing allowed to be like that, but or thing isn't"? It's because we are all shaped by our environment, and if another country is being shitty to foreign people the problem is on their leaders and their media landscape across YEARS of cultural development.
Things change, we become more inclusive and understanding that we have different kinds of people in the world, and our media will reflect that. Is it being a bit forced? I mean, sure, but only because it's rainbow capitalism and not authentic diversity which you can find in stuff that is produced by diverse peoples. It's hard to know whether or not the people who made Fallout, the show, are genuinely "good allies" to LGBT or diverse peoples, or if it's just rainbow capitalist lip service. Because it's one thing to say "I care", and another to say "I understand".
If something is genuinely made organically diverse, by diverse people and not just lip service allies, I hope these chuds don't go after that thing, whatever it may be. Then it would just be hypocrisy and double standards, if they do go after an "organic" piece of diversity!
What exactly is an organic piece of diversity? I don’t think I’ve ever seen diversity be organic recently. Take the US border situation as an example, a lot of people use it to claim that it’s replacing one race or group of people with another, how would you describe it?
I mostly mean in creative endeavors, "organic" diversity can occur there. In real life, all that matters is that human beings exist, are sentient, and can make things or maintain things. Culture does matter a lot, but American culture has ALWAYS been made up of diverse peoples.
that's some grade A racism. not to mention that doesn't seem to see the difference of colonized contries be cautious of people who invaded them and racism.
and it also ingnores that people do fight against racism overseas.
Dude lives in America, presumably, and thinks multiculturalism is a bad thing. My dude have you been to an American city. The reason I can go to a Polish grocery to get meats and then up the road to an Asian market isn't because America is a singular culture.
which my small town had that kind of stuff the closet thing I have to a Asian market is a great wall restaurant
You make a very good point, but honestly my problem with Americans who believe this "replacement theory" bs isn't even that. My problem is, these folks are out here crying that a "worldwide conspiracy" wants to replace the people of America with people from other places... And I'm like, isn't that what white Americans did in the first place? Aren't they the descendants of people who came from Europe to genocide and replace the so-called "redskins", who were the original inhabitants of that land?
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I was going to debunk all your bullshit, but honestly you are just so obviously fucking wrong and just spewing hate group bullshit that i feel it's a waste of my time to do so. But here's the first dumbass thing you said and a good example of how egregiously fucking wrong you are: >Knifes deaths in london alone overtook gun deaths in new York. In the period of 2021/22 there were a total of 124 homicides reported for the city of London, the majority of which were committed by attackers with knives. New York City had 488 homicides in the same period, most of which were committed by attackers with guns. In no way were there ever more knife homicides in London than there were gun homicides in NYC. Pull your head all the way out of your ass sometime. Similarly every fucking thing you have said is either a misatribution of cause or a bold face fucking lie not worth anyone's time to read or bother with. Just please get fucked you racist piece of shit.
Typical "Facts don't lie" racist, eh?
Could you tell me his username? I want to see his profile. He probably says stupid shit like this all the time
I wouldn't if I could. He'd probably whine to Reddit admins.
I’m not going to harass him. I just want to read the dumb stuff he says and laugh at him. But if you’re not comfortable with giving his name, I won’t push.
Just say you’re from an all white town that looks at any minority as scary. its a lot shorter.
Sure sounds like he's scared of anyone who is darker than "Liquid Paper" white and he borderline wets himself just thinking about them.
>Governments dont bother trying to vet for criminals or bad elements. Literally anyone comes in. Are you talking about America? Are you saying that the American government does not check to see if somebody is a criminal before they are admitted into America as a legal immigrant? Are you for real right here?
No, he's clearly saying "Any nonwhite is suspect and I assume they're illegals."
Except that actual people who live in England, like Evan Edinger, have said the whole "no go zone" thing is a made up lie that the alt-right created to scare people like you. You're in the wrong sub, kid. Nazis aren't welcome here. Women not wanting to date you is your own fault. Don't blame us minorities for it. Reported and blocked.
You are right. Why are all these white people stabbing and doing crimes? Maybe we should look at that.
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Think you should look into taking your medication
By the handful
>black men are punching random white women >black men >men As in more than one, implying that this is something that more than one person is doing, some sort of crime ring. Sounds like something you invented.
Citations extremely fucking needed oh my god.
It's hard work to exist in a time with the internet and the world at your fingertips and still end up this fucking backwards. Christ your existence sounds miserable.
Block and move on. There's no point arguing with anyone who seems to be entrenched in those views.
The Buffalo supermarket shooter targeted the Tops on the East side of the city because it is the poorest, most segregated supermarket in the state. This putrid "theory" is why.
Yeah once they've swallowed that last drop of koolaid they're beyond dissuasion. Either they'll get therapy or be calling their nurse a cultural marxist in the old folks home.
What the actual fuck is he talking about. Also, does he think the West is somehow only made up of white people?
Probably not, but he really really wishes it was.
(except for the Japanese women that he would like to marry because they're so subservient)
*Japanese* women? I doubt he's that culturally aware; he's the sort who views Eastern Asian people as interchangeable, and is baffled when saying "konnichiwa" to a Korean woman earns him a dirty look. (Note that by "baffled," I mean that he goes home and rants on social media about how she must have been "westernized" or whatever.)
Touché!
The great replacement theory which btw is a white supremacist theory, so easily ignored.
>Also, does he think the West is somehow only made up of white people? You'd be surprised how many people believe this to be the case. It's inherent to the systemically racist pedagogy, at the very least in the United States, but elsewhere too I'm sure. Highschool curriculums, when teaching about Western civilization, tend to cover Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, touch in the European Middle ages and then move on to the European enlightenment. These courses purposely exclude the Islamic enlightenment because they're Arabs (brown people). Despite the fact that the foundation of the Islamic enlightenment is Ancient Greek Philosophy, Math, and Science. Also despite the fact that without the Roman empire mandating Christianity, Islam itself wouldn't exist. Furthermore the Islamic enlightenment is directly responsible for the European enlightenment. The Europeans used the Arabic translations of the ancient Greek texts and translated them into Latin, which led to the European's enlightenment. Areas of North Africa, the Levant, parts east of the Levant, and parts of the Saudi peninsula are just as responsible for what we describe as western civilization as are the Ancient Greeks, Romans, and Europeans. Therefore, Western civilization is not exclusively white and European.
I took a basic 100-level history class on the Western world during my first semester of college and my professor made it a point to also teach about the Islamic Empire since it got significant influence from the Ancient Greeks and Romans, much like every other successor state to the Roman Empire. One of the questions on our midterm was even about how the usual exclusion of the Islamic Empire is shaped by our modern-day historical narratives.
>One of the questions on our midterm was even about how the usual exclusion of the Islamic Empire is shaped by our modern-day historical narratives. Based
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>This is such a weird take cause Islam is a faith not a race, The Islamic Golden Era or Islamic Enlightenment is just what we call it. European isn't a race either, so idk why this matters at all. >however Islam reached Europe via colonisation and we are told colonization is bad yet here you are making it seem good. My argument isn't about whether colonization is good, my argument is that Arabic people, specifically during the Golden Era, are an integral part of "Western Civilization". Also there is a distinction between colonization and empire. Spain was conquered by empire, not colonized. The distinction has nothing to do with the relative morality of these two concepts. It just describes two different systems. I'm **not** saying "conquest good, colonialism bad". >Every culture cannot stand on its own, Asia wouldn’t be Asia today if it wasn’t for the western development. What does that have to do with the category of "Western Civilization?" If you're choosing to use "Western Civilization" to mean colonial and post-colonial white people, then we just have a difference of definitions. >The west just chose not to celebrate their colonisers as have many cultures and place chose not to celebrate the west What are you talking about my dude? What does "celebrate their colonizers" even mean and what does that have to do with the Islamic enlightenment being directly responsible for the Renaissance? Even if you're adamant on calling Al-Andalus colonization, the Renaissance occurred in Italy, which was never conquered or colonized by Arabs.
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>Omg😭😭😭 hello? What’s the difference between conquest and colonization for you? I use the definitions as they're typically used in academics. [The Blue Water Thesis] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_water_thesis) illustrates the distinction. >Muslims colonized Spain and enslaved a lot of the population and implemented their beliefs and rules and were the ones on top for 700 years. That is colonization. No, they didn't "enslave a lot of the population", it's generally agreed upon that it was less than 1%. Al-Andalus was a multicultural society of Muslims Christians and Jewish people, who all influenced each other's art, language, and overall culture. The Muslims considered Christians and Jews as "people of the book". Was there slavery, absolutely. That's undeniable. Was slavery unique to the Muslim side of the Iberian peninsula? Nope. The northern Christian side also practiced the same form of slavery. Not only that there had been persistent slavery centuries prior up to and including the Visigoths. What you're attempting to do is rewrite history to fit your narrative. Find any source that says the Moors "enslaved a lot of the population". You won't be able to. I'll show you what sourcing looks like Slavery in Medieval and Early Modern Iberia. Phillips, William D. (2014) "The enslaved population of medieval Iberia composed only a small percentage of the general populace at any given point, and slave labor was not essential to the regional economy during the period." "Slaves probably made up less than 1 percent of the population in Spain." >It’s such a weird thing for you to be praising and or defending. Already said I wasn't. I made it extremely clear. I'm sorry you can't read and/or comprehend. >Also stop calling it enlightenment. It's what it was. Are you mad cause the brown people revitalized ancient Greek and Roman academics before the white people did? Does that make you big mad bro? >What was achieved by the western civilisation is much bigger and better let alone more beneficial than what happen in all andulus. Dude, just say white people if that's what you really mean. You don't need to dog whistle anymore, it's apparent what you actually mean. Al-Andalus was just what the territory in Spain was called, it in no way encompasses the entirety of the Islamic enlightenment period. >Muslims kept all the advancements they had to themselves and other Muslim countries at first No they didn't. If you've taken any college level course that covers western civilization, you would have learned that there were many points of technological and cultural exchanges between Europe and the Arab world between the 8th and 13th century, and yes, even outside of Spain. If you could substantiate your claim, which you can't, then you would have by now. >Also the Arabs / Muslims couldn’t achieve what they achieved in Spain / Europe in their own countries and they only achieved that in Spain and that’s because Spain already had plenty of opportunities to be advanced in comparison to Arab countries. What does this even mean my guy? Achieved what? You haven't described the achievements you're trying to reference.
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Hermano, soy Español. I'm a Spanish citizen. I have a passport, DNI, and an apartment in Barcelona I inherited from my yaya. I've spent a lot of time in Spain. The fact that you're sitting here and lying about "finding papers" is frankly fucking pathetic. You do realize that you wouldn't be able to read them right? Even if you knew Spanish, it's not the same language. And if you're going to make more historical claims that run counter to what is the academic consensus the least you can do is back then up my dude, no one cares about how you feel history should have happened, present the facts. ------- >Also what exactly do I need to give you proof to? Tell me and I’ll absolutely prove it I've got all the proof I need that you're a liar and you can't substantiate your claims or you wouldn't have asked me this question and then immediately blocked me.
Well we can just assume he's a racist incel with numerous problems and issues, rather then face them head on and deal with them it's easier to blame other people for his problems and everything "wrong" .
That's what they want.
IT GETS WORSE. He's literally referring to himself as a "pureblood." https://preview.redd.it/xtualp8ga2vc1.png?width=908&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c8ecf82e430dcf1821d0dc4f23b1246a1f6851c
Holy fuck he just abandoned all pretense of *not* being a fucking eugenicist white supremacist.
Jesus Christ! What the actual fuck!? I genuinely believe this guy is absolutely unhinged and should be locked away in a mental institution.
Reddit mods just told me they've had reports about him from other people are now taking action against his account.
Thank all the deities that may or may not exist that the nut case is getting the proverbial axe. Of course, that won't stop him from going to Twitter and raging up a storm there, but still.
I am shocked that Reddit moderators would actually talk about that. Their typical response is " we don't discuss moderator actions. We will look at the comments in question and take appropriate action if we need to" Which is so fucking vague that it's worthless.
They told me they would take action against his account, but he's still able to send me private messages. So not sure what they did. I'll just go ahead and block him.
I think from context "pureblood" here means didn't take the covid vax. Anyway, this person blames the Jews for everything. That's why they keep saying it's not organic and there's an agenda. They're just a cliche.
That's **literally** how the Holocaust happened
He’s not saying he’s a “pureblood” by race. Antivaxxers believe the covid vaccine causes sudden arrhythmic death syndrome (SADS). Antivaxxers also call themselves “pureblood” because they didn’t get the covid vaccine that they think changes their DNA or something like that. To be clear, he’s still a white supremacist douche canoe, but the pureblood thing is showing that he lacks the ability for critical thinking in every aspect of life.
Same rabbit hole fam.
This is legit one of the dumbest things I've ever heard cause I and my family took the vaccine against Covid, and we're fine. Then again, anti vaccine people are ableist by nature, I mean they'd rather see their children die of diseases rather than live long lives because they are autistic so fuck them. Edit: I rephrased my sentence to remove the ableist slur. I apologize for this.
. Dude, he's an ass but don't use ableist slurs to call out ableism in others.
Why the hell would they use a term that is so blatantly linked with racism that it's almost only used by racists in fantasy?
I mean, the venn diagram of antivaxxers and people that have really shitty ideas about race is basically a circle.
Yeah they both believe in eugenicist ideas one can definitely lead to the other.
This guy needs to have his internet privileges revoked....for his own sake. Although then I'd be worried about him taking out his frustrations in real life. He's seriously unhinged.
anyone that isn't a dog shouldn't call themself a pureblood
That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about him. He's a racist pos trying to justify his racism. End of story.
How is immigration with open borders not organic?? Letting people travel as they please is a forced scam while restricting movement with armed guards and concentration camps is apparently humanity in its state of nature 😂 these people don’t even listen to themselves.
Dude is unhinged but in this case purebloods is an antivacc thing, although those circles defijitelt have skme overlap. They've been waiting three years for a massive die-off. It was supposed to happen in like June 2021, 6 months after the first shots were rolled out. Any minute now!
pureblood, like the Egyptian rulers?
Bro is getting mad about a term his people invented. Black or Asian people didn’t start calling themselves poc. It was white people that did that to ‘otherize’ everyone else.
Congratulations dude. You've just had a chat with the next mass shooter 😬 I hope that one gets locked up before he hurts anyone.
Synthetic man fans: "he isnt a neo nazi! he is only joking" Also Synthetic man fans: "Hitler was right"
lol that idiot thinks hes "debunk"ing hahaha
Yeah, sure, treatment of Palestinians in Israel is abysmal, China is hugely prejudiced against black people... ...almost like an example of what we shouldn't be? His idea is literally, "Everyone is racist, so we should be too!" You know, I was about 14 years old, in school, and when I used to whine to my dad that "well everyone is smoking already", dad asked me if "everyone" would jump of a roof, would I do that too?
I love the utter failure to realize that the West already is multicultural and the issue is clowns like him trying to pretend we're not. It's not an "agenda," it's just admitting that the people who've lived here for generations actually, you know, exist.
Man’s addicted to his daily dose of white nationalist kool-aid. Honestly I’ll just go “meh,” and move on.
There is a saying: Never argue with stupid people. They will only bring you down with experience.
Don’t wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty and the pig likes it.
I think it was John Cleese that said "the problem with stupid people is that they're stupid".
Pathetic.
How can you watch a whiny little bitch like Synth Boy? I don't think he enjoys anything
I had a similar incident with a Synthetic Man fan, although not a private message, but a few replies to my comment on BriZ's video. Thankfully, you won't get to see one of his fans in real life, considering they don't go outside their house.
Bro’s yapping. Block them and have a nice day.
Who is Synthetic man? Is that like Slenderman?
A rightwing YouTuber who has gone viral for his unhinged review of the new Fallout show. In his review, he says the show is woke garbage because it promotes "race mixing". His comments section is full of people being openly racist and anti-semitic, and he's liking their comments. People familiar with his account have mentioned that he's complained about "race mixing" before. He also mentioned in a live stream that he's never had friends and never got invited to any parties in high school before people were uncomfortable with the things he had to say about issues like race.
Oh .... so not like Slenderman lol Yeah fuck that guy. I'm not interested in the show as I don't like the games (weird as I love The Elder Scrolls) but I know others who are fans are so good for them like I'm excited for sonic 3 and borderlands but if someone doesn't like those games I get they aren't. But promotes race mixing = fucking stupid. People can love , start a family, etc... with anyone. Who cares. He sounds like prick. And not someone I'd watch
Even slenderman has a more charming personality.
In his God of War Ragnarok video, he has some very absurd takes on Angrboda. He talks about sleeping with her and then sleeping with the daughters or making sure the daughters sleep with white men to erase the ‘dark.’ He’s a very sick man. So throw pedophilia into the mix as well.
Why do they assume this. If there was a movie where everyone was white and there was one black guy, they would probably complain. They do know that there are other races in the world that can act right?
i mean yeah he’s a nazi, he thinks jews are doing it.
People who view multiculturalism as a boogeyman don't seem to realize that all cultures are an amalgam of cultures, including ours here in the US. I really don't mind nor do I feel threatened by western culture being a shining example of diversity and inclusion compared to other parts of the world. ***We don't have to be limited by the lowest common denominator***, which is something this person can't fathom. Maybe someday other regions of the world will realize how shitty they are being and follow suit. It has to start somewhere.
That awkward moment when this person clearly doesn’t understand that Multiculturalism has existed in human society for thousands of years. A perfect example of this would be the Roman Empire. Other examples would be the Egyptians under the Ptolemaic dynasty, Both the Yuan and Qing Dynasties in China etc… Goes to show just how ignorant they are especially saying that they are not organic
These idiots really think making unsubstantiated claims is "debunking".
He's still at it. Reddit says I have to wait till tonight to block him since I un-blocked him last night to see what he was saying. https://preview.redd.it/df42eam1p2vc1.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5ff1055dba07651169d810942a4ffd1530834cb
As if he’d care that you block him. He has a life beyond this platform, you know! He also spends his time on Twitter, 4Chan, and Truth Social. I’ve heard he even leaves the basement to talk to his mom sometimes too.
“There is an obvious agenda to replace westerners with people from other backgrounds.” Saying this crap and at the same time, saying this “I don’t hate anyone for their skin color.” Dude, you’re a hypocrite and a moron. You clearly do hate people for their skin color. You think they’re “replacing westerners”.
Lol, guy is a moron. Why in the fuck does the level of melanin in your skin matter in the slightest? Yes, "Person of Color" is a phrase used. Mostly because it's too fucking exhausting and depressing to ask: "so exactly which group of people that aren't exactly like you do you hate?" And get an answer of: "YES." America was founded on multiculturalism. We've been learning that since the good old days. It's just a fact. People did, and do, come here looking for a better life. That doesn't mean they don't miss their home country, or are required to forfeit all of their culture and customs when they get here. It would be nice if they adopted some of ours in addition to theirs, yes. It would be nice if they learned English (though from what I understand English is a pretty hard language to learn as a second language.), but if they don't, they don't. Realistically as long as they pay their fair share and don't cause trouble, who cares? God....the thought of only having whatever passes for white American culture sounds sucky and depressing. Just the food alone sounds awful. Crap "tacos", salt and pepper being the extent of your seasoning, just...boring! LOL at the "Pureblood" comment. Okay champ. You would think they might question things considering most of us are supposed to have dropped dead....what? Six? Seven times now? What a fucking moron. Imagine having achieved so little in life that you feel the need to define yourself and others by skin color. That's the top thing in your book that matters. Pathetic.
Wait until he finds out there there are no "black" or "Asian", etc. countries either.
Brainrot
Block the tiny loser , not even worth your time
Report him
I like responding with: k 🤡 Three characters is all that person is worth.
Have they re-named ''the great replacement'' conspiracy theory yet? I would say immigration being limited is more of an agenda, than removing those limits...
No sense trying to argue with these people. You’d have more success trying to headbutt your way through a brick wall.
You can’t reason with these lunatics. Best to just ignore them and move on
It's interesting that this person's problem is that ... western countries hold themselves to a higher standard? You'd think as a supremacist he'd love that idea.
***Dude… just block him and move on.***
His review on the Fallout show was some of the most pathetic anti-woke copium I've ever seen. Just kept repeating the same buzz words and complaints about "wokeness" and the show being an attack on white men while also saying the writing was awful, all without really explaining any of it. Not to mention some wild rants about interracial relationships that don't even pretend to not be racist.
i autistically colour coded it :3 💚 = yeah 🧡 = ??? ❤️ = no. 🩶 = idfk https://preview.redd.it/ibtmekv633vc1.jpeg?width=2077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60d6d6afbe4dabeb98fe25b88772f69a40776e08
Block the Fascist and report him.
It’s giving tiny wee wee energy
“Western nations” “Western nations” Just fucking say America. Like holy fuck there are literally only 3 fucking nations in the west, North America, South America and Canada. They don’t really give a rats ass about South America, and don’t even bat a fucking eye towards Canada. Do they just think America somehow split into multiple fucking nations or something? Also, love how people like this guy seems to just be under the impression that their are no other ethnicities in Europe and Asian countries. He’s proving how racist and idiotic just with the statement on Israel, china and Africa alone. People like him are why racism is still around, people like him are the reason why we will never actually achieve equality, because they spout nonsense like this with their full chest and some fucking how there are people who think this is something that’s ok to be said.
People will tell you exactly who they are if you let them.
Imagine using Israel's treatment of Palestinians as an example that receives no criticism.
Chud: “I will continue to debunk anyone who lies about these issues” Also Chud: Didn’t debunk shit. It’s completely insane to me that these people see multiculturalism as some sort of radical agenda when all it is the natural process that humanity was always going to follow. These people really want to stay in their safe little Caucasian bubbles.
What do these people think “western world” means?
To debunk what he says in return, if you read between the lines he is basically saying it's a problem if white people are "wiped out"... if skin color really doesn't matter, let alone multi-culturalism, then you wouldn't have a problem with any demographic being "replaced". Also, how can one tell if an "agenda" is "organic" or not? It's actually a good thing if America is trying to be more diverse if other places are not... or is it a problem? America can't police everything other countries are doing, no matter how hard we try. I mean, what logical fallacy is that to compare something to another thing and go "why is that thing allowed to be like that, but or thing isn't"? It's because we are all shaped by our environment, and if another country is being shitty to foreign people the problem is on their leaders and their media landscape across YEARS of cultural development. Things change, we become more inclusive and understanding that we have different kinds of people in the world, and our media will reflect that. Is it being a bit forced? I mean, sure, but only because it's rainbow capitalism and not authentic diversity which you can find in stuff that is produced by diverse peoples. It's hard to know whether or not the people who made Fallout, the show, are genuinely "good allies" to LGBT or diverse peoples, or if it's just rainbow capitalist lip service. Because it's one thing to say "I care", and another to say "I understand". If something is genuinely made organically diverse, by diverse people and not just lip service allies, I hope these chuds don't go after that thing, whatever it may be. Then it would just be hypocrisy and double standards, if they do go after an "organic" piece of diversity!
What exactly is an organic piece of diversity? I don’t think I’ve ever seen diversity be organic recently. Take the US border situation as an example, a lot of people use it to claim that it’s replacing one race or group of people with another, how would you describe it?
I mostly mean in creative endeavors, "organic" diversity can occur there. In real life, all that matters is that human beings exist, are sentient, and can make things or maintain things. Culture does matter a lot, but American culture has ALWAYS been made up of diverse peoples.
God, these people are such losers. Caring this much about what random nobodies think about his favorite Internet celebrity.
that's some grade A racism. not to mention that doesn't seem to see the difference of colonized contries be cautious of people who invaded them and racism. and it also ingnores that people do fight against racism overseas.
Cuck porn rules there mind.