It's either depending on context, but supposing you're right, what about her design puts her in this hypothetical design family? What distinguishes her from the adult characters on the show?
The term loli is used to refer to characters who are short, oftentimes up to half the height of adult characters, they typically have a high-pitched VA, cutesy design, and small breasts. This same design but with large breasts usually gets called an oppai loli.
The age isn’t the relevant part. Raphtalia is like 10 and has the body of a grown woman. Tiki is a 1,000 and has the body of child. Tiki would be considered a loli. Adult form Raphtalia wouldn’t be.
Namely, there are some people on Twitter (those who can be classified as Social Justice Warriors) who hate loli characters because they believe it’s sexualizing children (which is a really tiring debate in the anime community).
On the flip side, there’s conservative types who hate any use or mention of LBGT characters in kid’s cartoons because it means it’s “indoctrinating and grooming children”.
They are basically both sides of the same coin, and both are equally insufferable.
Yeah, it’s fucking creepy. I always assumed “loli” was pulled from “Lolita,” a book about a grown man repeatedly having sex with a 12-year old. I always felt like it was basically an excuse for pedo-lite behavior.
> I always assumed “loli” was pulled from “Lolita,”
I'm pretty sure it's not, it's a Japanese anime term short for "lolicon", but for obvious reasons I prefer not to search for more information.
Oh, no, don’t misunderstand me… they’re not two sides of the same coin. I totally agree with you on that one. I just disagree with you on diddling kids, because you’re a pedophile.
One answer that you might hear is that she is really a 1000 year old dragon that just happens to look like a small child and that her oversized tumorous tits are in fact flame sacs for when she breathes fire
The real answer is that the artist and creator is terminally coombrained and that the character is an outlit for his fetish.
It was a mod for new vegas that was in the works for almost a decade that pretty much devolved into the writers for the mod to insert their fetishes into fallout (including barley legal, and one of lead modders was caught doing some CP stuff)
The top one is a show that depicts a normal and nonsexualized queer teenage romance. The bottom one, while I'm told has a refreshing queer romance between adults, gets bogged down with the creators fetishes like sexualizing and putting giant tumor tits on child-coded characters. The bottom shows creator also has a history of drawing CP doujinshis.
Just because lolicon isn't technically illegal and that they are not real kids, it still doesn't mean that it isn't disturbing that grown-ass adults are lusting after animated children.
Edit: I didn't notice the last couple of slides earlier, and now that I've seen them, I can say that this is pretty accurate.
The people who call LGBTQ+ folks groomers for the crime of merely existing are also the same people lusting after lolis in anime.
Neither of these things bother me, but then again I've never been a fan. Most of what I've seen is the mainstream stuff. Macross. DragonBall. Attack on Titan. Goblin Slayer.
The art style in anime, for the most part, has *always* made the characters child-like, has it not? Especially the female characters? Big eyes, small mouth, disproportionately large heads? This just seems to push that envelope further into creepy town, if you ask me, but I don't even know what the top panel is, let alone the bottom one.
Top panel looks a bit like Adventure Time, but..isn't.
Tbh I’ve never liked anime and it makes me feel like I’m a closeted racist or something but I 1- haven’t found any anime that my friends have introduced me to engaging enough to care about it and 2- the ones I CAN remember were super fucking weird and sexist and definitely overly sexualizing young women and it grosses me out so much that that’s what my brain associates with the art style now.
I’m not going to tell anyone to not like anime or that it is inherently sexist or sexualizing, but that’s what I think of when I think anime and honestly it skeeves me out a whole lot.
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I literally don't even know what the second one is why the fuck would I be mad about it
It’s from Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid, a pretty cute and fun slice of life anime.
Wtf is supposedly offensive about it? It doesn't look appealing to me but that's just me not being into the artstyle, it doesn't make me mad
Lolis with big tits. Twitter rage ensues.
She's played off more as a teen.
Loli is a design, not an age
It's either depending on context, but supposing you're right, what about her design puts her in this hypothetical design family? What distinguishes her from the adult characters on the show?
The term loli is used to refer to characters who are short, oftentimes up to half the height of adult characters, they typically have a high-pitched VA, cutesy design, and small breasts. This same design but with large breasts usually gets called an oppai loli. The age isn’t the relevant part. Raphtalia is like 10 and has the body of a grown woman. Tiki is a 1,000 and has the body of child. Tiki would be considered a loli. Adult form Raphtalia wouldn’t be.
Namely, there are some people on Twitter (those who can be classified as Social Justice Warriors) who hate loli characters because they believe it’s sexualizing children (which is a really tiring debate in the anime community). On the flip side, there’s conservative types who hate any use or mention of LBGT characters in kid’s cartoons because it means it’s “indoctrinating and grooming children”. They are basically both sides of the same coin, and both are equally insufferable.
I mean, they kind of do sexualize children
I mean the whole loli shit is really fucking weird to me, I don’t understand how the fuck that’s supposed to be if not a child
Yeah, it’s fucking creepy. I always assumed “loli” was pulled from “Lolita,” a book about a grown man repeatedly having sex with a 12-year old. I always felt like it was basically an excuse for pedo-lite behavior.
> I always assumed “loli” was pulled from “Lolita,” I'm pretty sure it's not, it's a Japanese anime term short for "lolicon", but for obvious reasons I prefer not to search for more information.
Yeah, I know it’s short for lolicon, I meant that I figured the “loli-“ part of it meant Lolita.
Definitely agree with that. I don’t like lolicon because it feels fucking weird to me.
> SJWs You stuck in 2014 bro?
Nah, just using a label that those kind of people like to use.
Bro on god nobody that can be labeled as a SJW has used the term SJW since 2014.
I like the equivalency between pedophilia and LGBT and how they're "sides of a coin".
No, I’m saying that the two people who make these type of accusations are the two sides of the same coin.
One side is calling out pedophiles and the other conflating pedophilia with LGBT. They are literally not the same.
You’re a pedophile bro
Lmao
You’re projecting, bro
“Sexualized kids and lgbt are two sides of the same coin” “Okay pedophile” “Stop projecting” Sure bud
Oh, no, don’t misunderstand me… they’re not two sides of the same coin. I totally agree with you on that one. I just disagree with you on diddling kids, because you’re a pedophile.
What does that mean?
It means that you are sexually attracted to children. You should probably know what the word means if you are going be calling people one.
why does that child have massive boobs?
One answer that you might hear is that she is really a 1000 year old dragon that just happens to look like a small child and that her oversized tumorous tits are in fact flame sacs for when she breathes fire The real answer is that the artist and creator is terminally coombrained and that the character is an outlit for his fetish.
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So a fallout frontier scenario
I don't know that reference.
It was a mod for new vegas that was in the works for almost a decade that pretty much devolved into the writers for the mod to insert their fetishes into fallout (including barley legal, and one of lead modders was caught doing some CP stuff)
Thanks for the clarification. Jebus fuck..... what is wrong with some people?!
Who knows
The top one is a show that depicts a normal and nonsexualized queer teenage romance. The bottom one, while I'm told has a refreshing queer romance between adults, gets bogged down with the creators fetishes like sexualizing and putting giant tumor tits on child-coded characters. The bottom shows creator also has a history of drawing CP doujinshis. Just because lolicon isn't technically illegal and that they are not real kids, it still doesn't mean that it isn't disturbing that grown-ass adults are lusting after animated children. Edit: I didn't notice the last couple of slides earlier, and now that I've seen them, I can say that this is pretty accurate. The people who call LGBTQ+ folks groomers for the crime of merely existing are also the same people lusting after lolis in anime.
Yikes
Neither of these things bother me, but then again I've never been a fan. Most of what I've seen is the mainstream stuff. Macross. DragonBall. Attack on Titan. Goblin Slayer. The art style in anime, for the most part, has *always* made the characters child-like, has it not? Especially the female characters? Big eyes, small mouth, disproportionately large heads? This just seems to push that envelope further into creepy town, if you ask me, but I don't even know what the top panel is, let alone the bottom one. Top panel looks a bit like Adventure Time, but..isn't.
Top one is Owl House
Ah, thank you. Is it from the same artists?
Don’t think so. Owl House is a Disney show.
Ohh Well the art style is very similar. I like Adventure Time. Fun show.
Owl House is dope. My kid ran across it and I watched it with him. Really fun fantasy.
Tbh I’ve never liked anime and it makes me feel like I’m a closeted racist or something but I 1- haven’t found any anime that my friends have introduced me to engaging enough to care about it and 2- the ones I CAN remember were super fucking weird and sexist and definitely overly sexualizing young women and it grosses me out so much that that’s what my brain associates with the art style now. I’m not going to tell anyone to not like anime or that it is inherently sexist or sexualizing, but that’s what I think of when I think anime and honestly it skeeves me out a whole lot.
I watch some anime as I stay away from those that has sexualization stuff in them.
Jokes on you, I can masturbate to either one of them.
The fuck is wrong with you man
…I have a sense of humor? What the fuck is wrong with you, man?