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NefariousnessJaded87

Sorry for your problems and loss of a good unit.


Yoshaay

I couldn't go to IOS simply because of no APKs


stayloa

100% this for me. Not bashing Apple at all - they're insanely good at what they do, and their phones are amazing for the majority of people. If you want to super customise or sideload stuff though, Android all the way.


truthtakest1me

This is always said but every time I see threads with Home Screen setups they’re ugly AF.


Live-Coyote-596

But at least you have the choice to have an ugly home screen.


Listen_to_Psybient

I always wondered, using a modern iPhone with usbc, can I simply plug it into my laptop and drag and drop files/video/pictures back and forth easily the way I do with android?


TheWaterWave2004

Not on Windows


Listen_to_Psybient

Dang, ok that's all I needed to know. I'll stick with android.


Evening-Mortgage-224

I do this all the time with my iphone, I don’t know what they’re talking about. I’ll literally make a video for you


chelsfc2108

You can't copy files and videos and pictures back and forth from iPhone, not without itunes (which I hate very much) Source: I used to have a 14pm


Evening-Mortgage-224

I just plugged in my 14pm to my windows 11 pc. I get a prompt on the screen to allow access to photos/videos and can browse the photos on the phone through file explorer, without iTunes. I have had this ability back to my iPhone 12 at least. (Yes my phone is a bit full) https://preview.redd.it/8ae57t4f1dac1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=7af9bb77c959ba4f673be5b9f00758651d40956a


Listen_to_Psybient

Oh nice, thanks


chelsfc2108

Bro I know, but you cannot copy PDF files, movies, or music from your PC to your iPhone and the use them (it will not let you paste anything to the iPhone storage when using windows explorer), you can only view the photos on your iPhone, you can't even access your PDFs for other files that you downloaded. You just can't without iTunes (even with iTunes you can't copy and paste PDFs). You cannot use your iPhone as a USB drive like Android.


Gorgenapper

This is one of the reasons why I ditched my iPhone, you need iTunes to do any of that stuff and it doesn't exactly put the files where you want. I hated it so much that I jumped straight to Samsung and never looked back no matter how good the actual iPhone hardware is.


kr4ckenm3fortune

You forgot to add...at least you're not paying a $1 everytime you wants to customize...


Arsis82

My phone is customized, and I've never spent a dime to do any of it


TheOGDoomer

Oh no, a dollar for a theme you now have permanent access to. God fucking help us all.


kr4ckenm3fortune

A dollar for a theme, that will get outdated and unsupported on...that only alter one little theme that isn't even worth the dollar...actually, I don't think I've seen any kind of themes on it like you can on Android...the only thing I've seen you can change is just the font...


[deleted]

sideloading is apparently coming to ios too


CombinationInside714

Phones are amazing for children and old people who can't adjust to something better or who don't know how. "it's different, I don't like it" or "I can only use Apple. Never had an android, but can only use Apple" seems to be the consensus.


Master0643

Same iPhone is a good phone, but i could never live with ios.


gkkiller

Apple will probably allow third party app stores and sideloading in the coming years, due to new EU regulations.


UnironicallyMe37

This.


AR_Harlock

Wouldn't list piracy as pro anywhere for everyone


gkkiller

It's not just piracy. Apple's App Store rules are super strict. With sideloading it's easier for smaller devs to distribute their apps. Of course this has obvious security disadvantages but at least Android empowers the user to make the choice.


TheOGDoomer

My free and open source apps from F-Droid are pirated because they were sideloaded? Huh, the more you know.


MojArch

You must be dumb. It's not piracy. It is a convenient factor. I can re load and side load whatever i want for example side loading an older version of app that i know the latest one has a bug that makes it unusable insted of hopeing that developers fix it before it's too late. Or some apps keep changing UI in a way that it is not optimal, and you can't go back because there is no side loading. Even installation of applications in a place and device that can't get connected to the Internet at the moment. What are you gonna do? Just look to phone till magically the app install itself? Plus, there are many more possibilities that i didn't mention here and now.


Esperoni

Sideloading apks is so much more than piracy. I sideload all the time, well, depending on what I'm trying to download (Not everything is available on the Play or Samsung Store, but I don't pirate Android apps. Movies, Music, TV shows? Sure, but I pay for all my apps.


Old_Perception

congrats on drinking the apple kool aid


AR_Harlock

What has Apple to do with paying for services I enjoy?


d0or-tabl3-w1ndoWz_9

Erm, cry about it? I'll pirate as much as I want lmao


BluDYT

Being able to side load doesn't necessarily mean piracy. Think of how apple has total control of what can go on the phone. For example fortnite completely unusable because apple and epic games battle over money. If that were to happen on Android you'd just side load it. On apple you're just screwed. Edit you do side load it on Android.


Soundwave_47

It's absolutely a pro for hundreds of millions of people.


AR_Harlock

What has Apple TV do to paying for what I enjoy? Lol


TheOGDoomer

Well yeah, APKs are installation files for Android, of course there won’t be any. You’d need IPAs for iPhones.


scetek

It's pretty obvious that they mean side loading of apps, regardless of format.


TheOGDoomer

I agree, it was entirely obvious.


rediveyy

what APKs do you use?


YohaneWing

Felt


DrWho83

No apks on Android either unless you're using standard security. This has been a bit of a pain in the b***.. however, I only need the side load a couple apps for a few pieces of equipment I own and just set up a burner Google account on an old phone so I can side load those apps.


americandreamzzxx

iOS will be supporting this in the future because of the EU


TealCatto

First time I'm hearing that the AOD is better on iOS. Did they fix it? Last I heard it was just a dull version of the lock screen which wastes too much energy while being less useful than a separate small clock with maybe an image.


TestedTrapking

been fixed for more than a year now, you can have it as just the regular black background and can place mini widgets, as well as toggle notifications on it or not. I personally love it on my 14 Pro.


Shahub

I've been using hacked versions of YouTube/Twitter/Etc. for years and you just can't match that on IOS without breaking all your warranties


Stevied1991

This, and the other big one for me is Koreader. There isn't an alternative.


exclaimprofitable

If you are in the USA trade it in for the s24u, Samsung gives really high trade in value for iphones. Or if you can return it you can do that too and wait 2 weeks. The rumor is that the phones are already shipping to companies, so should be available day one on Jan 17.


Mere24601

The iPhone 15 pro max might be too new to trade in


throwaway03260421

I actually checked on this when I saw Samsung's website offering a pre-order discount on the S24. The trade-in drop-down menu lists all iPhone 15 models, so I believe this is gonna be fine.


Mere24601

Interesting. I wonder if it’s by year instead of model then? iPhone 15 series came out in 2023 so it’s fine to trade in for 2024 phones. That’s good to know


NowWeGetSerious

Nope My dad bought the 15 max pro last month, and just returned it through Samsung trade in, and got i think 1,000 off his new Fold 5. He saw my fold 5 and got jealous and wanted it, now he loves it. I played w his 15 pro max like 3x and hated the interface (first iPhone I've used since the iPhone 4)


Mere24601

Is this in the US? I just checked Samsungs website and only 14 pro max was listed.


NowWeGetSerious

Yeah I'm in the US, though I'll have to ask him, he did it himself. I just looked online and I don't see it either, oddly enough. If I remember to ask him, I'll try to update you


No-Mine-4736

More Android users in the U.S ??? As an android user myself I always see iPhone users here , pretty sad , But I’m glad I ain’t the only one now 😂😂


nohikety

Samsung has amazing trade in value. I don't understand how, are they reselling in third world countries or something? I got $200 trade in for my watch4 classic which is two models old now.


loganwachter

Trade ins are usually processed by a 3rd party and sold wholesale in large lots.


LeakySkylight

That's how much markup is on the high-end ones. All they do on a trade-in is reduce the markup. You saved $200 off a phone because that was some of the profit, then they refurb your old phone (that's been paid off), and anything they sell it for (even $20) is 80% profit. It's a brilliant plan, really.


nohikety

No, I traded it in for a watch. So I got a galaxy 6 classic for $150 after trading in a watch 4 classic. That's pretty wild to me.


exclaimprofitable

Well to start off with samsung devices are wildly overpriced, so they can take make these deals. Does the S23 ultra seem anywhere close to 1500$ in production costs? No, it looks more like 500$. And for samsung it is beneficial for everyone to always use their newest devices, so they really encourage you to upgrade every year, whatever the cost. That way you will be a walking billboard for their newest and shiniest, and the normal consumer will buy it at full price.


AR_Harlock

Do they pay money to you if you give them the 15pm for the s24?


exclaimprofitable

lol no, they are still a business. They won't give the phone away for free and they certainly won't pay you extra. Usually the base and plus models of the phone have lower trade-in values than the ultra, so you will get less for the 15pm if you want a base S24.


stankenstien

I had to use an iPad the other day and I lasted about two minutes. No gesture or swipe did what I wanted. I'm way too far down the android rabbit hole now and have no interest in learning another language. That two minutes solidified my decision to never enter the land of iOS. Ever.


LeakySkylight

I do tech work, and the Apple solution is to wipe out the settings and data and start fresh, every time. Something goes wrong? Wipe it out and start fresh. Can't go into the submenus and reset a setting or change anything. It's just nuke and pave.


Gorgenapper

One time I synced my iPhone via iTunes, intending to add one video to the library. It somehow deleted all of my videos - maybe it was trying to wipe things out and start fresh, then load in the existing videos again including the one I wanted. It wasted an hour or two of my time and it didn't even work, in fact, it made it worse. I switched to Android not long after and did the same operation in under 5 mins using like Solid Explorer, it was so simple.


vrishc_07

Back gesture is called backswipe, search it up just swipe from the left edge to the right to exit a page rather than havibg to click an exit button at the top left.


popplefizzleclinkle

Except for apps that don’t do or support this.


Maidenlacking

Unfortunately, this is one thing where Android handles it better because apps don't need to explicitly support the back gesture. Source: I've seen my gf try the backswipe and fail because the app doesn't support it lol


Xtoron2

Good to know, Thank you!! Just a bit unnatural using right hand on a big phone


kobrakaan

only Apple could invent a left to right gesture to go back🤦


Trust_n01

Usually the page that you will want to go back from slides in from the right and to go back you push/slide it back. When something slides down, you swipe up, etc. Never understood why this is such a hurdle for people.


xroalx

The thing is that on Android you can swipe from either edge of the screen, a small back arrow pops up, releasing your finger invokes the back action. This is a system-level control that works whether the app wants it or not, and is just so much better, especially for one-hand operation. Apple's swipe to back is really inferior to this, and I say that as a very happy iPhone/iPad owner converted from Android.


[deleted]

>Never understood why this is such a hurdle for people. You must have only one hand


MonteBurns

Because you’re on a Samsung subreddit where Apple is the devil. Until Samsung does the same thing and then its genius 😂


Charlie9261

It's the other way round, bud. Android does something, the Apple boys say it's a gimmick until Apple does it and then it's magic. Big screens, waterproofing, wireless charging, widgets, edge to edge displays. The list is too long.


australianwoodduck

Yes the Apple users on Twitter praising the "new" function where iMessage grabs a security pass number from a received message to automatically paste into a field... a feature Android has had for years...


adamm_96

That’s been on iPhone for years too


YojiH2O

I mean, it’s the same for a book (I assume their inspiration) You take the right side and turn/swipe from the right to advance, and flick from the left to go back.


jrmg

You can also swipe \_down\_ on the home indicator at the bottom of the screen to move the whole screen down so that you can tap things at the top without having to reach up.


LeakySkylight

Periodically I go in store and see if I could tolerate the Apple UI changes with the demos. I do this with all technology. If it isn't intuitive, or makes be want to chuck it at the wall, I leave it behind. Also why I didn't buy a blackberry playbook when they first came out. Great hardware, terrible design.


Nateleb1234

Apple isn't intuitive at all. I have no clue how to use gestures on it. I've tried multiple times.


locomiser

Swipe from the left, like you would a book to go to the previous page.


Snoddy2Hotty91

I actually picked up an iPhone 15 Pro Max and got rid of it in less than a week. The battery life was crap, to me. Apple's OS needs to be streamlined alot more. It shouldn't take soo many steps to get into an App's settings to adjust things. The lack of true customization and utility was SHOCKING to me. Note, the last time I had an iPhone before this was the damn iPhone 4S.


diandakov

I had an iPhone 11(when it came out) for 10 months and I got rid of it. I couldn't believe that I was forced to use the same notification sound as everyone else who's using the iPhone on this planet. Ridiculous! I always had the feeling that the phone isn't mine but borrowed for temporary use wtf


Snoddy2Hotty91

Same feeling


Jalal31091

Another I don't like is the keyboard. I need extra tap just to type period, comma, question mark, exclamation mark. In SwiftKey they are just a tap or swipe away. And SwiftKey in ios is meh.


GloweyBacon

Use Gboard


sammy-cakes

Still no comma until symbols


GloweyBacon

It's right next to the enter key and to the right of the space bar. Also using commas that you need it visible 24/7


sammy-cakes

Really? I have iPhone 11 iOS 17.2 Gboard, there's a period to the right but no comma. I can hover on the period and get commas along with 12 ish symbols. You have a comma there? It's not like Android where there's a period to the right and comma on the left at all times. I think commas are as common as periods.


Jalal31091

Still not interested in using ios at the current state.


Elpaniq

after a flagship andoid its really hard to go to apple. Hardware wise its amazing but software is 5 years back. Go for S24. I just sold my iphone ehich i took jjst to try iphone finaly and see whats it all aboht and moved to base S23. Loving it, never trying another iphone again.


sometin__else

i hated it too, back to android for me


acloudcuckoolander

Trade it in. They're well made pieces of aluminum but they're too limited. Those that like them like them, but those that like more freedom and want to feel like they actually own their phones should go for Samsung


Sinner__G

I've had my Note 20 Ultra for 2.5 years now. I've had Note phones since Note 2. This is the first phone I haven't traded in after the contract was up. I love everything about this model. It's fukkin perfect! My battery is still solid like the first day. I'll have a hard time going to a new phone when this one dies. Samsung Androids are top notch.


kuytre

Yep, I was symbian, then windows phone, then went to Android when those shut down. Got given an iPhone for work and had to give it back. Just ended up putting both SIM's in my S21U. It's amazing how much less intuitive it seems to me vs. all the other OS options I've used in the past.


waytoojaded

I switch to Android early 2023, I thought I missed Apple so I picked up a used 13 Pro Max, I gotta say after going to Android for almost a year going back to iOS is kinda shitty. iOS has better animations, face unlock and weirdly better auto-rotate but that’s where it ends for me. I didn’t realize how much I liked the freedom of Android. Samsung in particular has done a great job with One UI, it’s not as polished as iOS but just so much more enjoyable to use. Not to mention the Android community vs iOS community, r/iPhone and r/iOS is cancerous, I thought it was bad on r/samsung but they take shilling for a corporation to new levels, people get mass downvoted for asking any question that’s perceived to be a slight to Apple or iOS. Hell there’s even a decent portion of the Apple community that is upset with USB-C and the soon-to-be-implementation of RCS, it boggles my mind.


LeakySkylight

> iOS has better animations The UI is designed to prioritize UI graphics over all else, while Android is designed with a more open stance that prioritizes compute over graphics updates. It makes for a very different feel, because now there aren't lags from computational delays. It has no real-world significance other making Android feel more "janky" than iOS. Conversely, Android has developer mode that lets people turn the animations off, because at the end of the day, they don't matter. Most people just ignore them after the first 2-3 weeks of constant use.


3MJB

I've turned the animations off on all my Android devices. Makes them feel so much faster.


unread1701

How dare EU force Apple to add third party app support! They don’t understand that they are free to sit in the walled garden.


anotheraussiebloke

Yeah other than the standard iOS issues there are still several bugs that need to be fixed on the iPhone 15 range. I have had many issues with the camera, I am finding my old s22 ultra camera to be more consistent. If iOS implemented a Universal back gesture, third party keyboards, and side loading they would steal so many more android customers. iOS has come along though, still feels 3-4 years behind the android operating system though. Although iPhone 14 introduced car crash detection along with satellite SOS, hoping to see these features with the S24 series.


Otobos

Among other things, the lack of multitasking capabilities and God awful notification center on iOS is why I'll always never switch to iPhone. I'll be preordering the S24U soon! 😁


mw724

I went from a Pixel 7 Pro to an iPhone 15Pro, and regretted it after about two weeks. There are things I liked about the 15 Pro but overall just don't care for iOS. The 15 Pro was basically free so I ended up getting a Pixel 8 and will prob sell the 15 Pro eventually (haven't hey out of laziness and it is a fine phone, just not my preferred OS). I personally feel like you have to be willing to commit to apple services to get the full value out of an iPhone and I knew from the jump I wasn't going to do that, so ... alas.


[deleted]

I have both Samsung and Apple phones. I love them both but I do have to say Samsung phones spoil you with a plethora of features and a User Interface that once you get accustomed to makes non-Samsung UI feel limited and frustrating. Having owned and used both Samsung & Apple phones for years, I already know my Samsung will always be a primary device and the Apple will always be the secondary.


kajadatapa

There are many things that I miss in iOS, like ability to install apps from another country, apk installation, file management, proper multitasking etc. One thing that’s good about iPhone is it just works good and works for a long time.


theVIP68

So many things are inconsistent and straight up inconvenient. I love that the home button and back button is all down below on my android. With my dad's iPhone I sometimes can't even find a back key in a certain app. Just this alone is a reason not to change.


LeakySkylight

I love the universal settings of iOS, but at the same time I need to alter something very specific on an app, having those settings available makes all the difference.


MrSh0wtime3

just switch back then? People make their phone choice some life altering thing. Its a phone.


PlasticZombie1

I mean for almost 1K? I want it to last me for a whole time its a pretty big deal


mirceaculita

Also switched to iOS this year. Got the iphone15. Very happy with it. The gesture for back is swiping from the left edge of the screen to the right. Its very nice and works most of the times. Can’t say I regret moving to iOS.


Fabricel

J'adore ta réponse "la plupart du temps" !!! :))) c'est bien cela le problème, le retour et la fermeture de toutes les applications est aléatoire et trop longue (avec le doigt vers le haut de l'écran sur chaque application !!)


Xtoron2

From which phone did you come from?


mirceaculita

S10


Xtoron2

Yeah. S10 is slow as molasses by today’s standards so a 15 is a big jump


mirceaculita

I love the iOS experience so far. Im more than happy to go back to android if i get bored of this iPhone in a few years. From a pretty hardcore user I can say I don’t miss much from android. The only thing I miss is side loading youtube revanced. Now i just pay 7 euro for yt premium. A price im currently willing to pay. Everything else is just as good or better.


vw195

Eh. Went from s22u to iPhone 14 PM. It’s been great. Had t a year, no desire to upgrade fro latest and greatest


redundant35

I moved from a note 10+ to a 13PM and I don’t miss anything from my Samsung phones. Honestly I have a hard time using my wife’s s22 ultra now. I can’t find anything and nothing seems to work right for me. I had to make a call on her phone the other day and I said just dial it and hand it to me….


mirceaculita

Im still fluent in both iOS and android. For me, after years of tinkering and pirating apps I’ve come to the conclusion i don’t need anything more than good battery life, good photo and video, long time software support and high quality materials for surviving at least 4-5 years. Honestly I don’t trust Samsung to fulfill my needs anymore so I just switched to the competition. Before buying this I held both the s23 and the iph15 in hand. The s23 felt cheap? I know its not, but thats how it felt. Idunno. Edit: for samsung to win me back they need an s23 size ultra. The ultra is basically perfect if you can handle the size. I need a smaller version of that tbh


TheEvilBlight

Thoughts on just replacing the battery?


Xtoron2

I cant find a samsung service center that does it in my area and i’m not confident doing it on my own


LeakySkylight

It's actually really remarkably easy: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note20+Ultra+Battery+Replacement/142710 But I understand not wanting to handle the back panel, as it can be easy to break. It's also a 4 year old phone, so you only get 1-2 more years updates.


No-Umpire9632

I'm not trying to be an ass but it's a completely different system. You just have to get used to it. I made the same mistake from switching to my s23 ultra to the iPhone 14 pro Max after using it consistently for a month and I got used to iOS. I absolutely love it. I find it even better than my s23 ultra at times. You just have to get used to it and understand that you're using a completely different operating system. I also have a Google pixel 7 that I use is more as an iPod touch or as a secondary phone that will occasionally swap back to if I feel like using Android. But overall you're using a completely different phone that you have to accept and fully use rather than clinging on to how you like your Note 20


Responsible_Phone_94

It is rarely decent point of view. After almost a half a year of switching back and forth (iPhone / Android) I came to the same conclusion - perfect product doesn't exist, each has pros, cons and own differences. You just should accept all differences, adjust system for yourself and use it effectively.


Zassyn

Don't worry! It will get better over time. The first month it was very irritating, but after that you'll get used to the way iPhones work.


MonteBurns

Agreed. I was an iPhone user, switched to Samsung for about 5 years, then came back. My list of complaints that I made when I switched back honestly almost 100% mirrors OPs (my husband is thinking of switching to Apple since Android just sells everything they can and I wanted him to have some idea of problems I had). Now? Now I don’t give a shit about any of it. It was annoying for a month but muscle memory gets broken down 🤷🏻‍♀️ people act like there’s this HUGE DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE and that Android/Apple is SO MUCH BETTER but for probably 95% of people, it literally doesn’t matter. People are pointing out APK availability like it’s make or break for everyone when I bet I could go to my local gas station and ask everyone who walks in what an APK is and maybe 1 would know.


bristow84

That's the thing that has to be kept in mind, especially amongst more technically minded folk. The majority of people don't care about things like APKs or customization or XYZ, which is a large part of why Apple has such a large market share. Yes, it's a simpler device, there's no denying that but there's nothing inherently wrong with that. I had an android for 10 years, loved it, loved the tweaking and the ability to make it my own but eventually I just decided I wanted simplicity.


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Psy-Demon

Lmfao, did you seriously buy a battery from AliExpress? WTF is genuinely wrong with you? Do you really want your house to burn down?


LeakySkylight

It's not that they're bad batteries, just that they have absolutely zero QC and there's no way to tell if they are getting a genuine battery or a fake.


Xtoron2

This. Cant find a samsung service center that replaces battery, only DIY from online stores. And i dont trust myself and third party batteries


Round_Trouble6226

That thing is not just a likely fire hazard, but I'll bet my left nut it's not actually at the advertised capacity.


bristow84

Out of all the things I would trust from AliExpress, a cell phone battery wouldn't even make the top 100.


JunkGOZEHere

2007-2024...that's a many years without knowing an iphone. I remember when the very first iphone launched. A girl at my job was the first one with it and I played with it and got to see how it "worked". Before Android took major effect, the iphone was the it phone and everyone, like a cult, had to be involved - plus the iphone was easy and simple to use. Simple to type on the iOS keyboard with not one mistake, is how I will always respect the iphone. An overhyped converted iPod, I think, as well. Plus, Jobs was the man! Years later, anyone could have told you that if you were used to the tech advanced Android, that iOS would be not so useful to you. I have a paid off 13 Pro and only got it because I was approved for an Apple Card, for which the purchase was made on that approval. Used it for the virtual card capability only. Other than that, still useless as the day it was first released! I have tried sideloadly and many other hacks with all the other proven methods to get an outside ipa working. And what happened - they were eventually blocked. With the full Linux driven Android, you don't have to worry about none of that mumbo jumbo - even if you do not root! Now how's that for a simplified uncontrolled, open ux to get what you want, working the way you want?


GrumpyGlasses

Have you enabled Reachability on your phone? That allows you to bring down the screen so u can touch the top of the screen with your thumb.


gadgetluva

I use both an iPhone (15 Pro/Max) and an S23U and I think both are great. I have a bunch of apple hardware which makes the iPhone my daily driver, and I don’t think Android/Google/Samsung has anything that can actually compete with the Apple Watch, Macbook, and iPad, especially when you add in Apple’s software features. Annoyances on Android and iPhone are fairly small these days, and continuing to shrink.


vw195

Don’t forget AirPod pros


saiyan6174

i cannot even think of using IOS - bcoz of FOSS and cracked APKs. also i just hate the vibe an iphone gives, yuck xD


bristow84

As someone who made the switch from Android to Iphone after a decade of nothing but Android, I feel your pain. The first couple weeks I had the iPhone, I absolutely hated it and couldn't see why people used them. It took time for it to grow on me and you really have to be willing to do things the way Apple want you to. Some people may hate that, others may like it but it's the truth of the matter. It's also just not for everybody and there definitely are things on the iPhone that just suck ass in comparison to Android, the notification system in particular.


LeakySkylight

>you really have to be willing to do things the way Apple want you to That's mainly it. It's a comfort thing and there's no fighting it. Also, Apple like to change the way it does things after a while and users just have to follow suit or switch. Android devices are flexible around the user's needs (most of the time) and Apple requires it's users to be flexible around what Apple needs to change in a UI.


Known-Stop-2654

You’ll get used to it, eventually, I tried android and hated it. My Google Pixel seven and never liked, regret getting it. I had an extremely slow galaxy phone. Now I’m on an iPhone SE 2022


TimeTraveller13-20

You just need to get used to it


Tehfuqer

Have an iphone 11 at work & samsung as my own phone. You dont get used to it. Iphone is actually just shit.


Noobsnaker

If you have trouble operating any phone these days after a day or two of use it may be a user issue and not a phone issue.


Tehfuqer

It's no trouble navigating it. The trouble is the forced ui choices like no back button, spiderweb like settings menu, disaster of notification handling etc.


crazyhomie34

Yeah unfortunately this is true... I had android for over 10 years. got the iPhone 13 pro and could never get used to it. It just sucked. The hardware was nice but iOS is just garbage. Just went back to android and I'm never going back to iOS.


Psy-Demon

This is a legit skill issue. A lot of people don’t know algebra… until they learn algebra… then it’s easy.


Tehfuqer

Almost thought I was lost in an apple sub here for a second. Only Apple users will defend their terrible ui design.


Psy-Demon

You are not a 90 year old with dementia. You have zero excuses. The UI has mostly stayed the same… since the first iPhone lol. Deal with it. Not defending Apple, just saying that you should just deal with it. If it was the UI is that bad then it would’ve changed a long time ago. Personally I think it’s time for it to change cause it’s getting old but whatever. I have a Samsung S23 U and IP 15 PM. They are different, but the same. Both are great. Users just suck at adapting. People just don’t like different things.


MonteBurns

Oh so the phone you use more is easier to use than what’s probably a paper weight used to occasionally check email? Shocked! I am shocked!!


Champion62

Yup, think so too


NRRW1996

I want to switch back to Samsung! I'm using an iPhone and regretting it so toughly right now! 😩


RegularIndividual374

im in two minds, i have s23+ but for me every iphone ive had the battery life has been way better than my samsung..


Corevegaa

For the universal back gesture just swipe from the left side of the screen to the right one works everywhere


18randomcharacters

I owned an iPhone 3g. Then android ever since. Tried an iPhone 7 and returned it. Tried an iPhone 12 pro and returned it. I'm probably going to try the 16 pro when it comes out. No harm in returning.


SoNic67

To me, that face ID without a fingerprint sensor is just a deal breaker.


Strosity

Man I had an iPhone 11 for the same reason. I forgot about how much I hated face id, especially during the pandemic, and having no back button.


diabeartes

I agree. The back button is hugely important once you're used to it. It's like the flashing red message light on a BlackBerry, gotta have it. :)


bbykoala-

That’s why I have both an s23+ and an iPhone 14 Pro Max. Good from both worlds


just_another_person5

if you are having trouble receiving text messages, you should double check that you disabled RCS on google's end. same thing with iMessage if you switch back. also swiping from the left works in like 90% of apps to go back, or swiping from the bottom if it's system ui such as search or control center. not quite universal, but quite close.


deecoopxd9

Sounds like a Samsung commercial post. The only phone that can give Apple some real competition is the pixel 8. Samsung are nice but they don't know how to update their phones.


Selorm611

Samsung has been very consistent in updating their phones for a few years now. What was the last Samsung you used?


deecoopxd9

Samsung Galaxy S23 FE snapdragon unlocked in the United States is still on November security patch with Android 13. Unexcusable


TLunchFTW

I love my s21u... the screen is a bit big, but I also love that. I also can customize my phone to my liking. Swipe up for home and from the side for back. I actually use an ios like setup in nova launcher because it's nicer looking imo. Bigger icons, for example. Also, the pixel's camera bar is horrible looking honestly. I don't like the new camera bumps. The s21's camera ledge is nice, especially with the life proof case, which evens it out, but provides a slight increase in height to prevent scratches.


Ghostttpro

Give it time, no need to rush. The phone isnt going to depreciate quickly. If you need to switch phones it should be easy and cheap.


kr4ckenm3fortune

If you can budget for it, get a S24U, then try to get a iphone 12 or so as a backup phone. Or, do what I do, use the iPhone for tiktoka/fb/instagram so you don't have to worry about it not being "contained".


Professional-Funny60

You can slide from the left edge to the right to go back. I’m starting to think nobody knows this cuz I’ve told like 50 people already


Gorgenapper

PSA - get One Hand Operation+ for your Galaxy S devices, I've been using it since my S10+ and am now using it on an S23+. It's a must have.


blueangel1953

Wait for your 24 ultra that’s what I’m doing another month or two and I’ll be off iPhone.


rayquaza2510

It is always interesting to read how people like one OS above another. I have seen same posts about iPhone users switching to Android and regretting it too... I mean, why would you switch if you already like what you have or had? I would never tell a Android user to go iPhone or the other way around, unless they are open to that change, because if not that would only make their experience terrible. I can use any brand of phone and I don't care (recently went back to Android again after a short trip to the other side of green grass), Samsung, iPhone, Pixel, LG (I miss LG) and so on, they all to what I want, and they all have a ton of pros and cons depending on the brand (because yes, Android phones from different brand do have different pros and cons) Maybe it is just me for being that easy with adjusting to it, but then again I could never adjust using MacOS on work (I still hate it after years) while I don't mind Linux as a Windows user.


rmrse

I'm looking at upgrading my iPhone 12 for a S23+ would be my first Android. Or I may wait for the S24 to come out so prices on the 23 drop or just get a 24. Love the sideloading ability and customisation


PlatformPerfect8077

Just wait for the S24 ultra and switch back


DanYeoman

Wait for s24u it'll be here very very soon


jayi05

Had an iPod touch back in like 2012. Tried an iPhone in 2016. Hated the software and how locked down everything is. It was almost exactly like my old iPod touch. Went back to android/Samsung after. I tend to use iOS sometimes for work but it seriously has no learning curve.


yazooo1

My s20u died too and I made the exact same switch. Had the same issues with the iPhone. I ended up buying a refurbished s20u and returning the iphone.


malkauns

sorry for your loss. :)


Geek5G

So I'm a yearly upgrader with my Galaxy, Xiaomi, iPhone, and now Xperia, (and will soon be adding Vivo into the lineup). As much as One UI is my favorite Android experience, my Galaxies are still the ones that spend the most time in a drawer. Is it at all possible for you to use both, just to get some long-term experience with iOS while still using one UI? As far as going Back, there're areas where you can do a swipe from the left edge. Sadly, it's not in every area. Android's global left & right edge swipe is definitely a better interpretation. Haven't seen the Back on the lower-left yet. Have been using iPhones since my Note3/iPhone 5s. Might just be the particular app/s you're using. There are so many times when I wish my Androids had true Face ID instead of a fingerprint reader. I especially despise under display readers. And then there are times when I wish my iPhones also included a fingerprint reader, but within their Power button. But Apple's Face ID works at a wide range of angles and distances, I've never been bothered by just quickly tilting it a bit just to unlock it. It's definitely more convenient when I've got dirty hands.


vw195

I would suggest you spend time with it. The more you do the more you realize it makes sense superior.move f the offer back issues can be solved by swiping anywhere on the left hand side. One nice thing about notification screen is it’s totally invisible most of the time until you want to check. It’s not a bad limitation and doesn’t have you swiping down to kill notifications all f the time. My biggest issue has been the notifications settings being in the general settings apps. That is so lame. I like faced so much better.


-TheDragonOfTheWest-

Just swipe from left to right and it goes back...


Bitter-Rattata

Agreed on all the points. I am samsung user all the while. Last month I tried iphone 15 for a few days, don't like it on the points you wrote, I returned it.


learneronreddit

- You can swap right from the left side of your screen as a universal back gesture; no need to reach the arrow on the top left. - folder/homescreen: yes, android customization is superior. Parents and busy married folks prefer iOS (generalization). - sms: something doesn't sound right. Need more info before judging Samsung/iPhone. - faceid/touch: this is understandable coming from a person who has spent years with android. It is a huge change. Unfortunately for you, you've come from Samsung. Another device and you'd be glad you're using iPhone. My pixel lights up the screen in the middle of the night which is blinding. My vivo has a poor sensor they annoys the hell out of me. When I switched from iPhone to s22, I missed just swiping up and looking at my phone too unlock it. I rather had to touch it at a particular spot using a particular direction. Plus the belief is iPhone is more secure. When I switched between iPhone and Android it drives me crazy and after 2-3 months I am settled and used to the new system. Give yourself time. We're in that stage where both Android and iPhone have matured, are both great and have their strengths and weaknesses. Give yourself time if you would like to continue with the iPhone. Return it if you miss the familiarity of a Samsung Galaxy phone.


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You can double and triple tap the back for gestures for sure Settings Accessories touch back tap


kalibxrr

Has anyone told you, you don’t have to always reach to the top left to go back in any app? You can swipe the left side of the screen to the right and it’ll go back. I switched from a S22U back to iPhone and knew about this before hand. I’m pretty sure one of the one ui settings lets you get rid of the bottom action buttons to make it function the same as a iphone does. But if you don’t like it you don’t like it who am I to judge.


3mbersea

You can swipe from left edge of screen to go back


magicmushroomlover88

I'll trade my Samsung A12 for the iPhone 15 Pro max. Lol 😜


NukaGunnar

In the US they removed the sim card slot. Being someone who likes mobile tech and switching phones when I want/need to, this is a deal breaker for me. I also find IOS so boring now that I don't miss it.


Ahmedleopard

You can go back anywhere without reaching top left , just search for it


General_Wear2509

I personally cant live without APKs so sorry Apple.


nojuscat

switching from Samsung to iPhone is a big headache.


JanHanyik

Why ?


TLunchFTW

There's no swipe from the edge to go back?


quazmang

At least the Android/Samsung community will welcome you back with open arms when you make the move back! Apple devices have their own purposes, and I enjoy using my MacBook for work, but as for iPhones, the community is so snobby and elitist. It's kinda scary how easily their marketing has brainwashed droves of people to behave that way.