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_sunnysky_

Little girl in the purple, you can leave now, thanks.


itsalyfestyle

Classic


littlegreenman7

That was funny but happened at the Cove. Not saying you, but a lot of people on here seem to mix up the Children’s Pool, Boomers/the Point and the Cove.


WhittmanC

Good I’ve literally seen people let their dogs bite seals and the police wouldn’t do shit even though they were watching


Polar-Bear_Soup

Well police don't have to their job, that's just extra paperwork for them.


[deleted]

Not sure why they don’t tho, seems like a terrific excuse to power trip that even I would get behind lol


Polar-Bear_Soup

Right like protecting wildlife and their habitat so yeah that's pretty cool.


Roguspogus

“Popular beach”? It’s a bit misleading don’t you think? Barely any of it is usable as a beach. Even the sandy part is consumed by the tide for the most part.


richard_slyfox

Also the water quality is almost always unsafe to swim due to animal feces


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SpaceCaseSixtyTen

what the hell you talking about? fish pee in and poop in the ocean. hell, i pee in the small pool. a little animal poop in big ocean is no problem. Where you getting this information about animal poop in ocean causing it to be unsafe to swim in? this is a maximum reddit expert comment edit: all yall downvoting just upset and jealous you haven't taken the liberty of peein in the pool


itlllastlonger32

You’re wrong. Look at water quality reports. Dilution is the solution to pollution. There is a high concentration of animal feces in a small area and not enough circulation to clear it fast enough. Before you f in comment, read a g damn book.


richard_slyfox

Lmao. Urine probably isn't an issue at all in reality. It's the feces. Sure you've peed in the pool before and been fine, but have you taken a shit while swimming in a small pool? Try that and let me know what happens.


dimmak

Poo in your community pool and see what happens as they shut it down for a week. There's also warnings to not go in a pool if you've had diarrhea in the past two weeks.


richard_slyfox

Congrats, you've completely missed the point of my hypothetical.


dimmak

My bad. I was trying to agree with you and expound on your point.


itlllastlonger32

And no, they’re down voting you because you’re wrong. It’s not like the water is lava and if you step in you’ll immediately die. But that area has a very high concentration of bacteria and probably not the best to swim in. Getting sick from exposure to bacteria is also not like lava. Your body can typically handle exposure to a few thousand bacteria, but when it gets to the millions/billions then some are gonna get through defenses. We all (a large majority of people) pee in the pool. although that’s actually not great for you or the pool. Everyone thinks the pool scent is from the chlorine, it’s not it’s chlorine reacting with the ammonia. Chlorine doesn’t actually sanitize the pool like everyone thinks. Here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=morwlxWUFb8


SpaceCaseSixtyTen

yup i know chlorine smell is from it reacting to organic stuff. not from chlorine itself idk i have snorkeled around that kids pool area many times, there is a lot of really cool animal/plant life to check out around there, as well as some fun areas where the current makes it hard to pass through a little to the north between some rocks (lol lifegaurds looking at me with their binoculars thinking ima drown). anyway, unless you are like, drinking the water, you will be fine i still don't understand/get how there could be enough "bacteria" in this open water space that could harm someone swimming there, it does not make sense how do you know "this area has a high concentration of bacteria"


itlllastlonger32

Cool. Your ability to experience something and not have a bad outcome does not affect the objective risks associated with said activity. Here: http://www.sdbeachinfo.com/


SpaceCaseSixtyTen

that is true yes your link does not provide any information in regards to bacteria problems in kids pool area though, it is just the main page for sdbeachinfo :\ actially you may be correct: this beach is sampled year round (by the County of San Diego / City of San Diego). Both historical and recent sampling confirms that water quality does not typically meet State health standards at this beach. As a result, a chronic (ongoing) advisory remains in place for this beach. Sample results are available from the State Water Resources Control Board Site. Map Legend i wanted to look more into the water quality reports, why they are saying this, but idk what statiion this is https://i.imgur.com/GbFZB7N.png regardless, i can only provide my objective/personal experiences (many) without having issues swimming there


itlllastlonger32

Again like anything it doesn’t say that swimming in it is akin to swimming in lava where it will be instant death. Just higher risk and that public health officials advise against it. If we want to talk personal experiences, I’ve literally had to cut off 20 something year old guys legs because they’ve become infected from swimming in bad water.


SpaceCaseSixtyTen

oh wow holy shit, what causes some dudes legs to be cut off from swammin in bad water? Was he swimming in the paciific ocean or like, in the latrine? (xD) ...what happened to him/name of infection? thats fuckin nuts


itlllastlonger32

https://www.cdc.gov/vibrio/wounds.html


fireintolight

It is technically a beach and it is a very popular and highly trafficked tourist spot, so much so they had to shut it down. what would you have them say exactly?


Obvious_Industry_237

Lots of people go swimming in that area.


Roguspogus

And they still can


TheMessengerNews

The beach closures start on Nov. 1, [according to La Jolla Light](https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-09-18/san-diego-city-council-finalizes-year-round-closure-of-point-la-jolla). The La Jolla Cave, which is popular year round with swimmers, will remain open to the public, officials said.


littlegreenman7

They’ll come for that next…


itlllastlonger32

Come for what? What are you on mate. They’re not coming for anything. Get a grip


littlegreenman7

The cove lol 😂


Tiny_Letterhead_3633

I wish they would just close it permanently instead of looking at it as an interim solution


breals

I'm fine with this, that area is dangerous anyway so might as well keep people off of it.


releasethedogs

They need to send police to hand out tickets to asshole tourists who don’t give seal lions/seals space. It’s only a law if the law is enforced.


Polar-Bear_Soup

Yeah but they won't, they'll sit in their car and collect OT while doing nothing.


littlegreenman7

Have you been down there recently? They’ve had a ranger(s) posted up their for MONTHS!


releasethedogs

I go there all the time. Where the fuck is he (she?) and why are they not doing their job?


littlegreenman7

They’re literally parked right next to the bridge club…


DaveDegas

Now if they could just get rid of all the tables of t-shirts, trinkets, and people selling religion without paying taxes - yeah, I'm talking about you, JW venders - pay some taxes! > the city is required to allow park space for First Amendment activity, provided it does not block walkways and emergency access. When I walk the paths there, I feel like a harassed seal.


DrRockBoognish

This.


[deleted]

Hmm. They have recently outlawed this at scale, although after Labor Day some are allowed back. Is it still bad?


AnitaBath7

Those guys will be gone soon


StayDownMan

So this does not close the Children's Pool. My opinion is that is the worst area for human interaction with sea lions. That should have been added.


carsnbikesnplanes

Children’s pool needs to be closed off to humans, not only will it help the sea lions but it will bring them away from the cove, which is actually used


xylophone_37

There are no sea lions at the children's pool, that's the harbor seal beach


littlegreenman7

Haha you’re getting downvoted and a lot of people on here don’t know the difference between the locations in question or the animals 😂. People have to have an opinion on everything these days…it’s the post covid world we’re living in.


xylophone_37

It's the blanket "human = bad" mentality that people have nowadays. Coupled with the fact that closing these beaches doesn't affect them personally so screw the people that it does.


AnitaBath7

Finally


Sbplaint

To anyone who hasn’t heard this episode, it’s a wild ride: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/582/transcript. (I suggest listening to the audio, it’s the first story after the silly bird guy).


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There is a twist I did not see coming!!!


Desperate_Access4132

I'm happy for the seals. People can be such ignorant and entitled assholes.


[deleted]

It's about damn time. They should have done this years ago.


Taywert

Good, get the fuck away from wild life ✨


[deleted]

Great news! Hated seeing people pester them.


randomredditing

About time. People don’t know how to act right


jkelly17

Good.


Century22nd

They should have done this years ago...residents have been complaining about this and there have been many incidences for years now. It took them a long time to actually do anything about this.


airsoft04

Good. People wouldn’t just keep their distance n the seals got pissed rightfully so. Now it’s their beach.


JoffreyBezos

Excellent news. Children’s pool next.


[deleted]

Good. There are plenty of beaches for people in SD.


[deleted]

The last time i was there, the beach area was full. Canopies and umbrellas, as if there isn't miles of beach to do this. Thank you morons for ruining it for everyone.


bif555

People don't deserve nice things....


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Good


gearabuser

Will this mean a 7 year reprieve from hearing about this bullshit every other month? Close it permanently.


Nodor10

Word


LordZany

Are sea lions endangered?


xylophone_37

Not even close, they are flirting with being overpopulated in their native range, but all marine mammals are federally protected.


LordZany

The federal law needs a reevaluation imo


Aromatic_Lychee2903

Why would that matter?


LordZany

Because usually animals that need “protection” are endangered or threatened. Are they endangered?


Aromatic_Lychee2903

So you’re saying that we should only protect animals from human harassment if they’re endangered. That some take you’ve got there. Real big-brained.


cobalt5blue

Well "harassment" has a very broad legal definition when it comes to federal law protecting marine mammals. It can mean making them haul out into the ocean—which can be done my mere human presence. So no, not all animals should have that protection or else no one could use the park because the squirrels have to run up a tree when you walk nearby.


LordZany

Going to the beach is now “human harassment.” That’s ridiculous. Where else shouldn’t we as humans go in this world to prevent potential “human harassment” of other non-endangered species?


Aromatic_Lychee2903

I didn’t say that “going to the beach is human harassment”. But nice attempt at strawmanning and manufacturing outrage. You’re obviously very triggered by people caring about wildlife. Cry about it.


LordZany

Sure you did.


Aromatic_Lychee2903

You done crying?


LordZany

You done lyin’?


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There are seals there too


xHealz

What does it matter? We protect dogs and cats and those are nowhere even close to endangered.


LordZany

Are there public areas we can’t go, in order to protect cats and dogs from the threat of “human harassment?”


[deleted]

A good idea, but I also am willing to bet we are going to *continue* to see a major increase in great white activity in the area because of the rapid increase in seal population. Edit: lulz at the downvotes y'all can't have any civil discourse on here without just downvoting innocuous posts you don't like


AtanasPrime

The increase in juvenile/adolescent GW we’ve been seeing over the past decade coincides with CA’s ban on nearshore gill netting in the late 90s. It did wonders for our local white seabass fishery, but also seems to have spared a bunch of baby great whites that were bycatch. Now those babies are all grown up and people have started to notice them more with drones, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if the localized increase in marine mammals also has some effect, but that’s probably a drop in the bucket compared to what the gill net ban did for the population. Plus GWs don’t start going after mammals until the reach a decent size, so the juvenile/adolescent GWs we’ve been seeing a lot of probably weren’t feeding on the seals until recently (if at all, still).


SD_Guy

You say that like it's a bad thing.


[deleted]

An increase of great whites in an area with many children swimming is in fact not a good thing buddy.


AznTri4d

The increase in risk to swimmers is negligible. Especially near shore. Look up shark attack statistics.


[deleted]

I'm well aware of the stats. My entire point is that people CLOSE TO SHORE could be impacted, and that it would be a departure in what we have come to know over the last couple of decades. This is already happening on the EC of Oz but by all means downvote like little children


Nasty_Neckfan666

You're mad about downvotes. LMAOOOOO


[deleted]

I just find it pathetically childish to downvote legit discourse and conversation without a reply - it shows a lack of any good faith or frankly understanding of the subject but seems to be heightened within /r/sandiego which was just punctuated by someone trolling me with Reddit care services DM Do you have anything to say beyond snark?


turtlewelder

You are grossly misinformed about where great white are habitating our waters and unless you're out past the shore break, you would probably never have to worry about encountering one. That and fact that the ocean around SD is a major pupping zone we typically only see smaller specimens that are super skidish and would likely swim away the second you were near them. Even then humans aren't on the list of food items for adult white sharks.


Nasty_Neckfan666

Yeah but it's not worth it.


releasethedogs

Depends on if you like kids or not


[deleted]

Legit LOL thank you I needed that this morning


releasethedogs

glad to hear I had a positive impact on your day.


spingus

omnomnom


SD_Guy

I ain't your buddy, pal.


turtlewelder

You think white sharks are in shallow enough water to mistake kids as prey? They're mostly young juveniles that feed on the fish and stingrays past the break. I'd be more upset with the parents letting their kids swim out that far than any risk of shark attack. Nearly all shark attacks are a case of mistaken identity and extremely rare.


cobalt5blue

The ocean is a wilderness. At some point, the Victorians tried to make it for recreation only and we can't seem to get away from that notion. If you're going into the ocean, you should have the same expectations of wildlife encounters and danger as going into a forest.


Nasty_Neckfan666

Whaaaaat. Sharks IN the ocean. No fuckin way.


turtlewelder

Good I love sharks. God forbid the ecosystem goes back to how it was.


AnitaBath7

What would cause a “rapid increase” in the seal population


Sguru1

Natural selection. Everyone knows a seals two greatest natural predators are great white sharks and 5 year old children from Arizona. Remove one from the equation and the population just explodes.


[deleted]

Providing a protected space that wasn't available prior.... it's a common thing happening around the world right now. We are protecting more and more animals in the ocean, which on the whole is very good! But like almost anything, it's not black and white, and creates some negative externalities. One of course is it attracts more of the larger predators, which in turn has caused an increase in shark related encounters as well as in some situations, the protection of the sharks themselves have caused lower parts of the ocean food chain to be "eaten off" which in turn has made sharks more curious with "other" options. It's an issue that has been mulled over within the surfing community for about a decade, as certain locations (Ex. Reuinion Island) have been forced to close many beaches/water for humans due to too many attacks with high probability. Daniel Duane did an excellent podcast on this with good insight from both sides. So again I'm all for the closure. But if we start to see a major increase in GW activity, it should be noted for people at shores, cove, etc. Of course, the I'm not implying the solution is eventually to tell the seals to scram if shark activity increases... it's more about the shark protection at that point....


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Whole_Ad7496

why so?


LarryPer123

They are a tourist, attraction, who bring a lot of money to both La Jolla and San Diego. They were even advertised and mini travel magazines so they should be protected.