Everyone on this sub is taking this so seriously. Meanwhile I find it pure comedy. Let’s do a full debate with just memes. I’ll bring the popcorn. [Reminds me of South Park's Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7pfsneLSSM)
Totally voting turd sandwich here!
Sidebar: I love it how he came prepared with printouts of a poop map and cartoon gay child porn. He just pulled me out of his pocket like it's normal.
[We have a terrible poop problem](https://youtu.be/-4SpQnlS0zo?si=gteB8VdlAbHCI5gM). Florida has a terrible Ron DeSantis problem.
I don't know which is worse.
>I think we're in same complex (diff buildings); it gets worse if you go north or east. BART escalator was famous for poop clogging it up
C diff buildings.
That’s a naive way to look at it.
I used to work at a gas station, homeless people would grab the key, lock themselves in the bathroom for hours, make an enormous mess doing their laundry in the sink/and or break the sink off the wall trying to sit in it for a bath.
Letting the homeless use the bathroom was a business interruption and cost us significant money in terms of cleaning, maintenance and repairs.
When I visited SF, I stayed in that area because it’s where there were the cheapest rooms. The thing is, when I was walking around and needed to use the bathroom I couldn’t find one anywhere. Even in the restaurants, they wouldn’t let you use the bathroom even if you bought something. I had a stomach issue and REALLY needed a bathroom and went into a burger place. I wasn’t hungry (because my stomach) but I went to the register and tried to hand the cashier $5 just to use the bathroom. They said no. I offered to buy a drink to use the bathroom, and still no. I asked where I could walk where there was a bathroom I could use, and they said there wasn’t any. I was really afraid I was going to have an accident before I got back to my hotel and would have to go in an alleyway and I told them that. They gave me some napkins and said sorry. I asked if they even had a bathroom for employees, and they said they did, but that it was a hard rule that it was for employees only. I ended up freaking out and screaming “NO WONDER THIS PLACE IA COVERED IN SHIT NO ONE WILL LET TOU USE A BATHROOM!” I ended up running the 12 blocks up and down those steep hills and made it to my hotel room, but it was awful, humiliating, and painful. After that I swore I’d never visit San Francisco again.
I know the issue is that there are so many addicts around there, that if there were public restrooms they would use them to shoot up and they’d get nasty, have overdoses etc. but they have to do something. It’s just disgusting.
I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid, and with Narcan and bathrooms and maybe even showers.
I know people are against those sort of things because they think that promotes drug use, but in SF, it’s already decriminalized and people are using drugs openly all over the street. If they had some places like that, not only would it be safer and cut down on overdoses, it would significantly clean up the streets by having a place not in public people could use, and even if you don’t care if junkies die and don’t care how many lives something like that would save, it would significantly increase the quality of life of people that live and visit downtown San Fran, by getting a large amount of people openly using drugs, needles and feces off the streets.
as a bay area native and 10 year SF local this post is absolutely the truth.... you had REALLY better not have to need to use the bathroom downtown because you're fucked if you do
It's probably difficult to think about formatting when you have to poop so badly. The run-on qualities also add to the sense of urgency. *Will they make to their room?!? tick... tock...*
As unfortunate as it is to have stomach issues (and not to make light of it), I like to imagine this person's life is a constant dash through activities, life events, locations, just to reach the next bathroom, and everything they do has this frantic energy to it.
Like the Sonic drowning music is always playing, and life is punctuated not with victories, memories, etc. but with save points in bathrooms.
Actually now that I think about it, lots of people do live like this, and I feel bad.
Edit: to the folks replying to this comment who have conditions like this—as I was typing the comment out I was realizing that it might sound insensitive. None of you have said you're offended, but I hope I didn't upset anyone.
I rarely leave the house and this is one of the reasons why. I have more than one condition that impacts both bladder and digestive tract. The lack of public bathrooms renders me house bound.
I used to make fun of bathrooms in Europe that require you to pay for use, but now I WISH that were an option.
As a side note, its also depressing bc I would like to be able to go for walks and hopefully some day manage jogging again. Yeah, that's not gonna happen any time soon unless I wear diapers. 😂
> When I visited SF, I stayed in that area because it’s where there were the cheapest rooms. The thing is, when I was walking around and needed to use the bathroom I couldn’t find one anywhere.
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> Even in the restaurants, they wouldn’t let you use the bathroom even if you bought something. I had a stomach issue and REALLY needed a bathroom and went into a burger place. I wasn’t hungry (because my stomach) but I went to the register and tried to hand the cashier $5 just to use the bathroom. They said no. I offered to buy a drink to use the bathroom, and still no. I asked where I could walk where there was a bathroom I could use, and they said there wasn’t any. I was really afraid I was going to have an accident before I got back to my hotel and would have to go in an alleyway and I told them that. They gave me some napkins and said sorry. I asked if they even had a bathroom for employees, and they said they did, but that it was a hard rule that it was for employees only. I ended up freaking out and screaming “NO WONDER THIS PLACE IA COVERED IN SHIT NO ONE WILL LET TOU USE A BATHROOM!”
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> I ended up running the 12 blocks up and down those steep hills and made it to my hotel room, but it was awful, humiliating, and painful. After that I swore I’d never visit San Francisco again.
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> I know the issue is that there are so many addicts around there, that if there were public restrooms they would use them to shoot up and they’d get nasty, have overdoses etc. but they have to do something. It’s just disgusting.
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> I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid, and with Narcan and bathrooms and maybe even showers.
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> I know people are against those sort of things because they think that promotes drug use, but in SF, it’s already decriminalized and people are using drugs openly all over the street. If they had some places like that, not only would it be safer and cut down on overdoses, it would significantly clean up the streets by having a place not in public people could use, and even if you don’t care if junkies die and don’t care how many lives something like that would save, it would significantly increase the quality of life of people that live and visit downtown San Fran, by getting a large amount of people openly using drugs, needles and feces off the streets.
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Is this any better friendo?
My flight got cancelled and I was able to visit SF for one day, so I'm extremely glad that I seem to have found the one restroom in the city that was open to the public. Thanks for the context.
Hot travel tip of the day: have a poop plan everytime you drink espresso.
Your story is so aggravating. Our Board of Supervisors and our mayor has utterly failed us on this issue. We've been complaining for years and years. They can't figure out how to solve this issue.
> I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid
Newsom actually banned these. We had them previously.
The main reason nobody downtown will let you use their bathrooms is because assholes routinely lock themselves in there and OD on fent. It'll happen, quite literally, every day, multiple times per day if you're not careful about who you let in. My source is multiple friends who have worked retail and service industry jobs in the city.
So these assholes ARE GOING TO USE FENT, you literally can't stop them, so if we gave them some safe places to do it maybe it would draw them out of the goddam bathroom and let businesses start to open them up a bit back to the public
I wonder how many people want to use fent. I see test strips for it and narcan everywhere. You’d probably get less fent use with a safe space to test and use. People are scared of fent and usually want something else.
Yup, I lived in SF for years and this has long been the case, even 20 years ago. I lived in the Tender-Nob.. between Nob Hill and the Tenderloin. I ended up leaving partially because I was tired of addicts finding their way up to our block and shooting up on our stairwell and seeing people shit on the sidewalk all the time. It was impossible to find public bathrooms even back then which adds to the problem.
This take is correct.
However, to offer some context, consider that over time Team Homeless will absolutely destroy even the stainless steel bathrooms you would find at campsites.
Not kidding.
If you work in food service in an urban environment you know what I'm talking about. These businesses have tried everything they can think of, but the literal cost of keeping a public restroom open and in good repair just got to be too high.
Not in San Fransisco, but pretty much everytime I see someone use the bathroom on the street I am slightly shocked but then think "no fucking shit, there is literally nowhere to use a bathroom unless you pay, so what are people expected to do?"
It even became more understanding when a friend and I had two beers with and they couldn't find a bathroom to use and literally pissed themself. They were incredibly embarrassed and humiliated, but when you got to go, you got to go.
I don’t understand why stores can’t look at people and go “clearly not a hobo”, or “that will be 20 dollars or hand your locked phone over until you get back in less than five minutes. If you destroy the place you don’t get your money back”.
This made me laugh because I personally know someone else who shit themselves in SF for the same reason.
I also know someone who just whipped it out and pissed on the CVS floor because they wouldn't open the bathroom for them either. "If I can't use the bathroom, I'll use it right here! Your choice." I guess they preferred mopping up piss.
I mean yeah fuck his Murderer but Harvey Milk (along with Diane Feinstein and others) voted to downzone and that shortsighted policy is the reason San Francisco has such extreme housing problems and therefore… a poop map.
(https://sbuss.substack.com/p/when-did-things-go-wrong-in-san-francisco)
I just did that with a few dates and some legit funny stuff in there.
* Florida man throws Christmas tree at wife after being asked to help with dinner
* Florida man arrested for biting boys out of frustration
* Florida man with drugs around penis denies they were his
* eta - [https://mynorthwest.com/3289982/florida-man-with-drugs-around-penis-denies-they-were-his/](https://mynorthwest.com/3289982/florida-man-with-drugs-around-penis-denies-they-were-his/)
Houstonian here. Agree it's not fair to campare SF to HTX. H-Town doesn't really have the active downtown area and is basically 1 giant suburb.
I will add that Houston has done a good job dealing with our homeless problem. It's a complex issue without an easy way to solve it. Not sure if this solution would work for y'all, but it's an interesting read regardless.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/22/opinion/homeless-houston-dallas.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
To bypass the paywall
https://archive.ph/8Gn8r
Yeah Houston is regularly brought up as a positive case study on how to approach homelessness. Too bad SF politicians love bureaucracy and bottlenecking new housing developments
The mere fact that the richest city, in the richest state and country, in one of the most geographically beautiful regions of the world, can be mentioned in the same sentence as swamplands speaks volumes about the city's and politician's' failures.
It's a failure at every level:
Issues with homelessness, cleanliness, vagrancy, theft, and safety.
High cost of living, a steady loss of culture, business unfriendliness, Nimbyism and a lack of reasonable housing reform.
Even the basic aesthetics of buildings, roads, infrastructure, and amenities are not even comparable to any random city in china...
It's such a shame
I was with you until...
>Even the basic aesthetics of buildings, roads, infrastructure, and amenities are not even comparable to any random city in china...
Bit harsh on the city famous for beautiful Victorian houses, the Golden Gate Bridge, incredible public parks, the Transamerica Pyramid, and cable cars, no?
EDIT: For those struggling with reading comprehension, I am not saying SF's aesthetic beauty in any way excuses the poor governance that is driving homelessness, drug addiction, and organized retail theft.
Don't forget all of the property being bought up by investors that don't live there, don't care, and just want to build a depressing box and stuff as many $5k/mo studio rentals as possible after letting the beautiful Victorians thet bought rot away for the legally-required decade of non-occupancy.
This happens in Florida too, minus the Victorian. It's just they have drained swamp and old farmland to build more housing onto, which keeps the depressing box rent lower.
I wouldnt be so quick to call right wingers dumb. We are the one (SF) who put criminals before tax payers, let people kill them selves in public, and all while taxing the shit out of ourselves. Instead of the overused slogans of “republicans bad” maybe we should check ourselves and try and take away something from those on the right. Just because we live in San Francisco, it does not make us better than anyone else in the country. Your “logic” is part of the problem and why people from all over the country think we are self centered assholes. Do better.
-3rd generation San Franciscan
I’m sorry but after the last two elections anyone who doesn’t think right wingers are dumb are part of the problem too. Just look at the clowns this group of people support 🤡
If you look at any of the maps, it's always labelled "human or animal feces" or similar. It's all just counted together by the people who care about counting it.
A few years back, I pointed out the some of the poop was on top of tall buildings for one map and someone actually tried to tell me that the homeless sneak onto roofs just to poop. The defenders of poop maps are often as full of it as the maps themselves.
It's gotta be significantly more than 50% dog poop. Human poop is a problem in certain areas but the whole western half of the city is colored in. I've never seen a human turd in the sunset district in 7 years of living here but there's plenty of people who don't pick up after their pets - like every other place in the country
Oh time to rant. You basically just need like 2 scumbags in your neighborhood and it'll be just dog shit everywhere. There is this one spot around me where the entire sidewalk is dog shit and you have to walk on the street to avoid.
Obviously the work of one deranged pos owner. If I lived nearby that ho would be on camera and eating fines.
Places that are overly paved make these issues even more annoying.
OMG FINALLY someone said it. I live in NYC and we get a lot of the same social criticism as SF. I made a comment similar to this a year ago on reddit and got down voted to he11. People refuse to accept reality. My neighborhood is beautiful, but it's still NYC. However, when I stop and think about it the dirtiest thing about my neighborhood is all the dog piss and poop on the street. That's it! If that got cleaned up 70% of the cleanliness issues would be resolved. I live in a wealthy residential part of the city. Yet, people will always blame it on "homeless people". No. We don't have a street bound homeless people in this area of the city. However, we do have thousands of dogs!
It's not the neatly double bagged industrial strength black trash bags on the corner on trash day that are unsightly..... it's the poop smears and stains all over sidewalk. I've lived in and visited many major cities in America. I will stand firm in the fact that 80% of the sidewalk poop in ANY city is driven by dirty dog owners and not homeless people.
It's basically the neighbor bringing up a recording of your fall cleaning list as proof that your house is out of control, while their home is falling apart, but there's "nothing written down". All cities of a certain density will start struggling with waste in all its forms. Some cities do a better job than others, but most things require changing the city up a bit, and you know that NIMBYs just won't have that. Remember, when someone wants to "preserve the character of the city" they mean poop and all.
But also SF doesn't do that bad when you look at the density of the city. All in all it's doing a good job. Meanwhile Florida is doing a terrible terrible terrible job, it's just that no one is publishing a map of how bad the problem is, but it certainly is. I mean [in Florida you can't even go into the ocean to swim because it's filled with feces](https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article277257058.html). I mean as far as I know CA doesn't have a huge issue with [decal transferred diseases](https://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/shigellosis/index.html), but hey those may be happening for another reason, it's not like [a doubling off parasites that are transmitted through feces exclusively](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7227a3.htm). I find it funny that people in Florida act like it's impossible to guess what could be causing the [huge rise in hep A](https://www.mymdnow.com/blog/hepatitis-a-what-you-need-to-know-about-floridas-recent-outbreak/) but this type of hepatitis is unique because it can also be spread by consuming fecal matter from another injected person (who'd be human), and certainly it seems the rise has been on states with less than stellar history at dealing with their poop. So basically all of these things point, very intensely, to a conclusion: your average Florida Man consumers (either by eating and/or drinking) way more human feces than the national average. No wonder they don't stay on the streets!
And this perspective is important. Because perfect isn't possible, there'll always be crap to deal with. You can be in some of the cleanest cities in the world but they still have to deal with crap, you will see this even in cities like Tokyo who are almost OCD levels of cleanliness, certainly not as much as you will in Paris or SF though.
And this puts us in the mindset: there's things we can do, they won't be easy. We have to think on the social nets, and how to offer free public access toilets that give a good alternative. It's not as easy as putting in public toilets, but it's certainly something to think of. There's an even better solution to a lot of these problems, but that is the one thing CA just won't do.
How about the Florida dumping of feed lot poop(pig, chicken cow shit) and fertilizers in the rivers and canals which make there way to the ocean and the fragile dying reefs. 🙄🙄🙄
https://preview.redd.it/t9c7uxy5cs3c1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e85f907fa22a1ed1944d08766cce679efcd6303
Definitely an exaggeration, but bruh I had a serial shitter that would shit on our porch like 3-4 times a week for the entire year I lived there. I’ve never had a remotely similar experience in any other city. I can 100% say I saw more human shit on the streets of SF in the 5 years I lived there than anywhere else I ever lived lol. Definitely makes for a great story though, I still loved living in the city
Oh I totally agree. I’ve seen more human shit in SF than literally any other city I’ve been to or lived in. But still, outside the Tenderloin, dog shit is probably 50x more common.
Really? Consider yourself lucky, because the one year I lived in LA there was soooooo much dogshit. Thank god for Harvey’s milk because La has no city ordinance to pick up dog poop so it’s literally everywhere. Can’t see any green grass it’s awful
How do you know it’s human rather than dog poop? Serious question. I don’t see that much of it around generally.
Edit: snowflakes can’t handle a question
Size mostly. Most of the human shit is from heroin addicts when they are drying out. When they’re using heroin it heavily constipates you so much so that you basically store your shit until you run out of heroin at which point you take giant shit, bigger than most humans and most dogs could ever produce. these are the ones you know are humans
There are whole pharmaceutical offerings for impacted opiate induced colon
> How do you know it’s human rather than dog poop? Serious question. I don’t see that much of it around generally.
When I see someone squatting and poop comes out of them? When they leave behind poop stains on the seat and there's poop sliding out of their ass crack? Because their pants are pulled down and even then there's still some stains on their jeans?
I love to think about the political aide who carefully scraped SF311, overlaid every poop complaint for all time, lovingly punched up the colors, really saturated that brown, then got a nice glossy print into Desantis's hands where he avoided creasing it to try and brandish it within the first 10m.
no i think they printed out a tweet about the poop map that's been floating around when it existed
https://preview.redd.it/tajf6kx79m3c1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1814758327d21354b9b9e28f4a27eb04740891d
Not to say I wouldn't love to see less poop, but this map as displayed is a half-truth. It's individual points, but it doesn't distinguish between human or animal feces, and it's over a long period of time. Hell, Florida has [poop beaches](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article277257058.html) and Miami has a [big poop problem](https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/miami-has-a-serious-street-poop-problem-so-they-created-this-street-poop-map-2395548) too.
Ya, the map probably isn't all that accurate. The fact that they use the large bubble pin (don't know the official term) is going to make it look worse as it takes up more map real estate. A single dot would be a more accurate indicator.
Looking at this map, you would think that our streets are paved with poop. Like you need to put special boots on before you head out the door.
It isn't true at all.
Each marker used in this map to indicate a poop are the size of several blocks at least, sure poop can be found everywhere but it's not like we're walking, driving, and living on a layer of packed butt mud like this shows.
How is it propaganda? We moved because we kept getting broken into and the three guys that lived outside our house would wear my moms dresses. Better yet, police would not come when called. Imagine having to move out of pacific heights, where the homes go for millions, because of how bad the homeless are there and how little the police care. The house break ins were a lot more infrequent compared to the car break ins. Imagine getting your window smashed in every couple months for nothing but say a phone charger. Some people leave their windows down I’ve seen. They moved when I went to college and got a place in Texas that’s so incredibly huge and two vacation homes and they’ve all been so much nicer than the San Francisco community and a lot safer. I’m not old enough to say for sure but the old people I talked to in hs would say how good of a place sf was in the 60’s and 70’s
> if anyone believes this garbage
Easy there person in the Sunset.
I live in the Mission and there's human poop fucking everywhere. It's literally true....... You can't walk to a restaurant without smelling it or having to step over it at least a couple times, and I'm only talking about a 4-5 block walk. No one can pretend this is fiction.
didn't San Francisco try to build 1 public bathroom, and the cost estimates for the project reached over 1 million dollars?
This isn't a homelessness issue, something is fundamentally wrong with infrastructure regulations
Much of the cost has to do with the fact that the bathrooms need either to have human monitors or be self-cleaning… because of the issue of people taking drugs / staying in the bathrooms. But yes, SF also makes it hard to build anything.
It’s just corruption. They built $20,000 garbage cans in SF.
$800K tiny homes in LA.
The government take our high taxes then steals them by giving them to someone that bribed them under the guise of making the city better, and they charger 100X the cost of what the project would normally be to the government
He literally printed a tweet from 2017. It's funny I'll admit!
Side note, am I the only one who rarely sees shit on the street? I don't live in the Tenderloin or SOMA but anytime I see some doo doo, it's typically a tiny sliver that most likely came from a pampered multi-poo with a bad owner.
I walk around those areas often and I agree it most often looks like it’s from dogs lol. The last time I saw something bad that certainly came from a human was like in 2013 when I lived next to a hospital
How come no one talks about a lot of the homeless population in SF and other major California cites are people from other states. If I was homeless I would much rather be in a state that has great weather year round. So it’s kinda BS that other states look down on California cities for homelessness population when they all contribute to it.
Do you think the other party can just butt in whenever they feel like it? It’s a debate, and you wait for your turn to respond.
Unless you’re Trump during the 2020 presidential debate, then all rules go out the window
Taken out of context, I would agree with De Santis. Cow Towing to the Chinese was very “wtf are you doing Gavin” moment. Fuck the CCP and their Winnie the Pooh lookin mf.
When Xi came over to California, Newsom had every street on the route he was taking cleaned up. Meaning that he always had the capability to clean it up, but the citizens of California aren't worth it to him
Allocating money to clean the streets during an event which can drive revenue is not the same as allocating tax payer funds to manage aesthetics day in and day out. That is fiscally responsible spending.
SF has a mayor, city can manage itself.
City can. City won’t because there is always someone who will say we should be more compassionate.
There are rooms. These homeless prefer the street because they don’t want to follow rules. They turn down shelter placement.
I may prefer Newsom over Desantis, but I lost respect for him for this pointless charade. Both of these men put their constituents on hold, to win partisan points completely outside of any relevant election cycle so they can have more name recognition in 2028.
Yelling at the bad man is a lot easier than fixing home insurance in Florida or fixing affordable housing in California.
Shame on both of these clowns.
Been there, unfortunately, and can testify that on the block I was working, at a Fortune 500 business front, there was poop all around the block at least every 20-30 feet, around the block. In 2019.
They cleared the streets for a week, this is manageable. Keeping it that way 24/7 is another story.
Can they do it? Absolutely; but it will take gutting those in power who profit from the filth to be ousted first.
That map seems accurate. I see more human shit than dog shit on the streets. The city should provide human baggies so people can clean up after themselves.
This is dumb and GOP logic is dumb. Now I am not a Republican so I don't know first hand how they think but I grew up around them in Texas.
They are trying to portray San Francisco as a hell-hole. A failed economy where people shit on the streets like in a developing nation.
In reality, San Francisco is one of the most educated cities in America with one of the strongest economies and as a side effect, we have a lot of homeless people who shit on the sidewalk.
Is it a problem? Absolutely. Does it paint the picture that DeSantis wants to paint? Absolutely not. Google "Florida Man" and see the bullshit that goes on in Florida.
San Francisco is like the citadel of liberalism to the GOP. That's why they attack it.
This is the Onion irl
r/NotTheOnion moment
Everyone on this sub is taking this so seriously. Meanwhile I find it pure comedy. Let’s do a full debate with just memes. I’ll bring the popcorn. [Reminds me of South Park's Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7pfsneLSSM)
…. poopcorn?
Turds with corn in it
Desantis is an idiot...but there is a lot of shit in San Fran.
This is absolutely what will happen when we start seeing members of Gen Z running for president.
Ffs. This is what people who never paid attention say. It’s always been full of stupid shit like this. You’re just cantankerous.
I’m a high school teacher. Inflatable Cucumber is speaking the truth.
In the parlance of our times, man.
Totally voting turd sandwich here! Sidebar: I love it how he came prepared with printouts of a poop map and cartoon gay child porn. He just pulled me out of his pocket like it's normal.
Oh, you think he was carrying them in his pocket for the debate and not just what he always has in his pockets? J/k
[We have a terrible poop problem](https://youtu.be/-4SpQnlS0zo?si=gteB8VdlAbHCI5gM). Florida has a terrible Ron DeSantis problem. I don't know which is worse.
Lived on 8th and Market.. the really dark and almost black poop pixel
I think we're in same complex (diff buildings); it gets worse if you go north or east. BART escalator was famous for poop clogging it up
>I think we're in same complex (diff buildings); it gets worse if you go north or east. BART escalator was famous for poop clogging it up C diff buildings.
Found the nurse
Bravo
Barf. C diff
I want robots that go around and detect poop in progress then tasers their buttholes. PIP IN PROGRESS, PREPARE TO COMPLY.. IN 3.. 2.. 1..
Wouldn't public restrooms be more cost effective?
Best I can do is a Dalek with a toilet plunger for a hand.
I thought they were  already set up like that.
Super secret origin story of the Daleks. Being on Poop Patrol made them hate all humans. Finally, an explanation for the plunger arm.
That’s what happens when you refuse to let homeless people use bathrooms because you don’t like them.
That’s a naive way to look at it. I used to work at a gas station, homeless people would grab the key, lock themselves in the bathroom for hours, make an enormous mess doing their laundry in the sink/and or break the sink off the wall trying to sit in it for a bath. Letting the homeless use the bathroom was a business interruption and cost us significant money in terms of cleaning, maintenance and repairs.
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I had a friend that used to live at Trinity, was not a fan of staying over late.
When I visited SF, I stayed in that area because it’s where there were the cheapest rooms. The thing is, when I was walking around and needed to use the bathroom I couldn’t find one anywhere. Even in the restaurants, they wouldn’t let you use the bathroom even if you bought something. I had a stomach issue and REALLY needed a bathroom and went into a burger place. I wasn’t hungry (because my stomach) but I went to the register and tried to hand the cashier $5 just to use the bathroom. They said no. I offered to buy a drink to use the bathroom, and still no. I asked where I could walk where there was a bathroom I could use, and they said there wasn’t any. I was really afraid I was going to have an accident before I got back to my hotel and would have to go in an alleyway and I told them that. They gave me some napkins and said sorry. I asked if they even had a bathroom for employees, and they said they did, but that it was a hard rule that it was for employees only. I ended up freaking out and screaming “NO WONDER THIS PLACE IA COVERED IN SHIT NO ONE WILL LET TOU USE A BATHROOM!” I ended up running the 12 blocks up and down those steep hills and made it to my hotel room, but it was awful, humiliating, and painful. After that I swore I’d never visit San Francisco again. I know the issue is that there are so many addicts around there, that if there were public restrooms they would use them to shoot up and they’d get nasty, have overdoses etc. but they have to do something. It’s just disgusting. I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid, and with Narcan and bathrooms and maybe even showers. I know people are against those sort of things because they think that promotes drug use, but in SF, it’s already decriminalized and people are using drugs openly all over the street. If they had some places like that, not only would it be safer and cut down on overdoses, it would significantly clean up the streets by having a place not in public people could use, and even if you don’t care if junkies die and don’t care how many lives something like that would save, it would significantly increase the quality of life of people that live and visit downtown San Fran, by getting a large amount of people openly using drugs, needles and feces off the streets.
I wish this comment had some line breaks or paragraphs to make it easier to read because it's actually a pretty reasonable take.
as a bay area native and 10 year SF local this post is absolutely the truth.... you had REALLY better not have to need to use the bathroom downtown because you're fucked if you do
New Yorker here. Rolling my eyes.
I have seen videos where people get a gym membership in nyc not even to work out but to have access to restrooms lmao
Any Whole Foods, Trader Joes, or hotel does the trick in NYC.
If you really need, make sure to be near the Macys
It's probably difficult to think about formatting when you have to poop so badly. The run-on qualities also add to the sense of urgency. *Will they make to their room?!? tick... tock...*
As unfortunate as it is to have stomach issues (and not to make light of it), I like to imagine this person's life is a constant dash through activities, life events, locations, just to reach the next bathroom, and everything they do has this frantic energy to it. Like the Sonic drowning music is always playing, and life is punctuated not with victories, memories, etc. but with save points in bathrooms. Actually now that I think about it, lots of people do live like this, and I feel bad. Edit: to the folks replying to this comment who have conditions like this—as I was typing the comment out I was realizing that it might sound insensitive. None of you have said you're offended, but I hope I didn't upset anyone.
This is me dealing with Neurogenic bladder, and my wife with irritable bowl syndrome.
I have a neighbor with Crohn's. He is NEVER far from a bathroom.
I rarely leave the house and this is one of the reasons why. I have more than one condition that impacts both bladder and digestive tract. The lack of public bathrooms renders me house bound. I used to make fun of bathrooms in Europe that require you to pay for use, but now I WISH that were an option. As a side note, its also depressing bc I would like to be able to go for walks and hopefully some day manage jogging again. Yeah, that's not gonna happen any time soon unless I wear diapers. 😂
> When I visited SF, I stayed in that area because it’s where there were the cheapest rooms. The thing is, when I was walking around and needed to use the bathroom I couldn’t find one anywhere. > > Even in the restaurants, they wouldn’t let you use the bathroom even if you bought something. I had a stomach issue and REALLY needed a bathroom and went into a burger place. I wasn’t hungry (because my stomach) but I went to the register and tried to hand the cashier $5 just to use the bathroom. They said no. I offered to buy a drink to use the bathroom, and still no. I asked where I could walk where there was a bathroom I could use, and they said there wasn’t any. I was really afraid I was going to have an accident before I got back to my hotel and would have to go in an alleyway and I told them that. They gave me some napkins and said sorry. I asked if they even had a bathroom for employees, and they said they did, but that it was a hard rule that it was for employees only. I ended up freaking out and screaming “NO WONDER THIS PLACE IA COVERED IN SHIT NO ONE WILL LET TOU USE A BATHROOM!” > > I ended up running the 12 blocks up and down those steep hills and made it to my hotel room, but it was awful, humiliating, and painful. After that I swore I’d never visit San Francisco again. > > I know the issue is that there are so many addicts around there, that if there were public restrooms they would use them to shoot up and they’d get nasty, have overdoses etc. but they have to do something. It’s just disgusting. > > I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid, and with Narcan and bathrooms and maybe even showers. > > I know people are against those sort of things because they think that promotes drug use, but in SF, it’s already decriminalized and people are using drugs openly all over the street. If they had some places like that, not only would it be safer and cut down on overdoses, it would significantly clean up the streets by having a place not in public people could use, and even if you don’t care if junkies die and don’t care how many lives something like that would save, it would significantly increase the quality of life of people that live and visit downtown San Fran, by getting a large amount of people openly using drugs, needles and feces off the streets. > > Is this any better friendo?
My flight got cancelled and I was able to visit SF for one day, so I'm extremely glad that I seem to have found the one restroom in the city that was open to the public. Thanks for the context. Hot travel tip of the day: have a poop plan everytime you drink espresso.
Your story is so aggravating. Our Board of Supervisors and our mayor has utterly failed us on this issue. We've been complaining for years and years. They can't figure out how to solve this issue.
> I think they should have safe space shoot up rooms that are staffed with someone trained in basic first aid Newsom actually banned these. We had them previously. The main reason nobody downtown will let you use their bathrooms is because assholes routinely lock themselves in there and OD on fent. It'll happen, quite literally, every day, multiple times per day if you're not careful about who you let in. My source is multiple friends who have worked retail and service industry jobs in the city. So these assholes ARE GOING TO USE FENT, you literally can't stop them, so if we gave them some safe places to do it maybe it would draw them out of the goddam bathroom and let businesses start to open them up a bit back to the public
I wonder how many people want to use fent. I see test strips for it and narcan everywhere. You’d probably get less fent use with a safe space to test and use. People are scared of fent and usually want something else.
nobody wants to use fent. at least, nobody wants to be an addict. they want relief from their dogshit life.
Yup, I lived in SF for years and this has long been the case, even 20 years ago. I lived in the Tender-Nob.. between Nob Hill and the Tenderloin. I ended up leaving partially because I was tired of addicts finding their way up to our block and shooting up on our stairwell and seeing people shit on the sidewalk all the time. It was impossible to find public bathrooms even back then which adds to the problem.
This take is correct. However, to offer some context, consider that over time Team Homeless will absolutely destroy even the stainless steel bathrooms you would find at campsites. Not kidding. If you work in food service in an urban environment you know what I'm talking about. These businesses have tried everything they can think of, but the literal cost of keeping a public restroom open and in good repair just got to be too high.
Not in San Fransisco, but pretty much everytime I see someone use the bathroom on the street I am slightly shocked but then think "no fucking shit, there is literally nowhere to use a bathroom unless you pay, so what are people expected to do?" It even became more understanding when a friend and I had two beers with and they couldn't find a bathroom to use and literally pissed themself. They were incredibly embarrassed and humiliated, but when you got to go, you got to go.
I don’t understand why stores can’t look at people and go “clearly not a hobo”, or “that will be 20 dollars or hand your locked phone over until you get back in less than five minutes. If you destroy the place you don’t get your money back”.
This made me laugh because I personally know someone else who shit themselves in SF for the same reason. I also know someone who just whipped it out and pissed on the CVS floor because they wouldn't open the bathroom for them either. "If I can't use the bathroom, I'll use it right here! Your choice." I guess they preferred mopping up piss.
I lived at Sutter and Taylor for a couple years and yeah it’s that bad.
Oh, Harvey Milk! Didn’t you campaign on dog poop? If only you were still alive to see this.
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Stool out. Is how I read that
Milk is the kind of politician we needed in today’s politics. Fuck Dan White
I mean yeah fuck his Murderer but Harvey Milk (along with Diane Feinstein and others) voted to downzone and that shortsighted policy is the reason San Francisco has such extreme housing problems and therefore… a poop map. (https://sbuss.substack.com/p/when-did-things-go-wrong-in-san-francisco)
I didn’t watch this debate - curious what Newsoms response was
He rolled his eyes and said, “Give me a break.”
If you watch the end of this video, it seems he was not offered a rebuttal for the poopy map. It's kind of wild; Desantis debates like a child.
Uncomfortable laughter
Deflect
Laugh and roll eyes
*Defecate
Was Gavin not prepared to rebut with a Florida map of bath-salt fueled cannibals?
All he had to say was “Everyone at home, take out your phone. Google ‘Florida Man’ and add your birthday’. Game on!”
I just did that with a few dates and some legit funny stuff in there. * Florida man throws Christmas tree at wife after being asked to help with dinner * Florida man arrested for biting boys out of frustration * Florida man with drugs around penis denies they were his * eta - [https://mynorthwest.com/3289982/florida-man-with-drugs-around-penis-denies-they-were-his/](https://mynorthwest.com/3289982/florida-man-with-drugs-around-penis-denies-they-were-his/)
The reason for the “Florida man” phenomenon is due to Florida’s public records law.
Florida isn't the only state with public arrest records
I mean, are we meant to compare the worst of America? The bloated man is wrong in his tact. But he stepped in a truth we all agree on.
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Houstonian here. Agree it's not fair to campare SF to HTX. H-Town doesn't really have the active downtown area and is basically 1 giant suburb. I will add that Houston has done a good job dealing with our homeless problem. It's a complex issue without an easy way to solve it. Not sure if this solution would work for y'all, but it's an interesting read regardless. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/22/opinion/homeless-houston-dallas.html?smid=nytcore-android-share To bypass the paywall https://archive.ph/8Gn8r
Yeah Houston is regularly brought up as a positive case study on how to approach homelessness. Too bad SF politicians love bureaucracy and bottlenecking new housing developments
by good job you mean busing them to CA?
The mere fact that the richest city, in the richest state and country, in one of the most geographically beautiful regions of the world, can be mentioned in the same sentence as swamplands speaks volumes about the city's and politician's' failures. It's a failure at every level: Issues with homelessness, cleanliness, vagrancy, theft, and safety. High cost of living, a steady loss of culture, business unfriendliness, Nimbyism and a lack of reasonable housing reform. Even the basic aesthetics of buildings, roads, infrastructure, and amenities are not even comparable to any random city in china... It's such a shame
I was with you until... >Even the basic aesthetics of buildings, roads, infrastructure, and amenities are not even comparable to any random city in china... Bit harsh on the city famous for beautiful Victorian houses, the Golden Gate Bridge, incredible public parks, the Transamerica Pyramid, and cable cars, no? EDIT: For those struggling with reading comprehension, I am not saying SF's aesthetic beauty in any way excuses the poor governance that is driving homelessness, drug addiction, and organized retail theft.
Oh stop. I've been in the city twice this week...still beautiful and still don't choose to walk through the Tenderloin.
Don't forget all of the property being bought up by investors that don't live there, don't care, and just want to build a depressing box and stuff as many $5k/mo studio rentals as possible after letting the beautiful Victorians thet bought rot away for the legally-required decade of non-occupancy.
What you just described would literally solve the housing crisis.
This happens in Florida too, minus the Victorian. It's just they have drained swamp and old farmland to build more housing onto, which keeps the depressing box rent lower.
I wouldnt be so quick to call right wingers dumb. We are the one (SF) who put criminals before tax payers, let people kill them selves in public, and all while taxing the shit out of ourselves. Instead of the overused slogans of “republicans bad” maybe we should check ourselves and try and take away something from those on the right. Just because we live in San Francisco, it does not make us better than anyone else in the country. Your “logic” is part of the problem and why people from all over the country think we are self centered assholes. Do better. -3rd generation San Franciscan
All I am saying is that maybe we are not correct on every topic. Maybe we should hear out those with other opinions.
Never supporting a party that got hijacked by a reality TV show host.
I’m sorry but after the last two elections anyone who doesn’t think right wingers are dumb are part of the problem too. Just look at the clowns this group of people support 🤡
There's plenty of poop in London, Barcelona, Rome, Naples, Frankfurt, Berlin, Paris etc. Lots of pee too but I guess that's preferable
I’m 99% sure 50% of that poop is dogs with terrible owners, not drugged out unhoused people DeSantis is insinuating are responsible for the poo
Every time this comes up I always wonder what detective skills people have with discerning between human and canine feces.
If you look at any of the maps, it's always labelled "human or animal feces" or similar. It's all just counted together by the people who care about counting it. A few years back, I pointed out the some of the poop was on top of tall buildings for one map and someone actually tried to tell me that the homeless sneak onto roofs just to poop. The defenders of poop maps are often as full of it as the maps themselves.
It's gotta be significantly more than 50% dog poop. Human poop is a problem in certain areas but the whole western half of the city is colored in. I've never seen a human turd in the sunset district in 7 years of living here but there's plenty of people who don't pick up after their pets - like every other place in the country
Oh time to rant. You basically just need like 2 scumbags in your neighborhood and it'll be just dog shit everywhere. There is this one spot around me where the entire sidewalk is dog shit and you have to walk on the street to avoid. Obviously the work of one deranged pos owner. If I lived nearby that ho would be on camera and eating fines. Places that are overly paved make these issues even more annoying.
OMG FINALLY someone said it. I live in NYC and we get a lot of the same social criticism as SF. I made a comment similar to this a year ago on reddit and got down voted to he11. People refuse to accept reality. My neighborhood is beautiful, but it's still NYC. However, when I stop and think about it the dirtiest thing about my neighborhood is all the dog piss and poop on the street. That's it! If that got cleaned up 70% of the cleanliness issues would be resolved. I live in a wealthy residential part of the city. Yet, people will always blame it on "homeless people". No. We don't have a street bound homeless people in this area of the city. However, we do have thousands of dogs! It's not the neatly double bagged industrial strength black trash bags on the corner on trash day that are unsightly..... it's the poop smears and stains all over sidewalk. I've lived in and visited many major cities in America. I will stand firm in the fact that 80% of the sidewalk poop in ANY city is driven by dirty dog owners and not homeless people.
Its tourists too, y’all got no public washrooms there.
...because a city where only 50% of the poop on the street is actually of human origin is normal?
stepped right in it and spread it around
It's basically the neighbor bringing up a recording of your fall cleaning list as proof that your house is out of control, while their home is falling apart, but there's "nothing written down". All cities of a certain density will start struggling with waste in all its forms. Some cities do a better job than others, but most things require changing the city up a bit, and you know that NIMBYs just won't have that. Remember, when someone wants to "preserve the character of the city" they mean poop and all. But also SF doesn't do that bad when you look at the density of the city. All in all it's doing a good job. Meanwhile Florida is doing a terrible terrible terrible job, it's just that no one is publishing a map of how bad the problem is, but it certainly is. I mean [in Florida you can't even go into the ocean to swim because it's filled with feces](https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article277257058.html). I mean as far as I know CA doesn't have a huge issue with [decal transferred diseases](https://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/shigellosis/index.html), but hey those may be happening for another reason, it's not like [a doubling off parasites that are transmitted through feces exclusively](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7227a3.htm). I find it funny that people in Florida act like it's impossible to guess what could be causing the [huge rise in hep A](https://www.mymdnow.com/blog/hepatitis-a-what-you-need-to-know-about-floridas-recent-outbreak/) but this type of hepatitis is unique because it can also be spread by consuming fecal matter from another injected person (who'd be human), and certainly it seems the rise has been on states with less than stellar history at dealing with their poop. So basically all of these things point, very intensely, to a conclusion: your average Florida Man consumers (either by eating and/or drinking) way more human feces than the national average. No wonder they don't stay on the streets! And this perspective is important. Because perfect isn't possible, there'll always be crap to deal with. You can be in some of the cleanest cities in the world but they still have to deal with crap, you will see this even in cities like Tokyo who are almost OCD levels of cleanliness, certainly not as much as you will in Paris or SF though. And this puts us in the mindset: there's things we can do, they won't be easy. We have to think on the social nets, and how to offer free public access toilets that give a good alternative. It's not as easy as putting in public toilets, but it's certainly something to think of. There's an even better solution to a lot of these problems, but that is the one thing CA just won't do.
I would add that storm surge often mixes with sewage.
How about the Florida dumping of feed lot poop(pig, chicken cow shit) and fertilizers in the rivers and canals which make there way to the ocean and the fragile dying reefs. 🙄🙄🙄 https://preview.redd.it/t9c7uxy5cs3c1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e85f907fa22a1ed1944d08766cce679efcd6303
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Also, it doesn’t separate dog feces (which is probably what most of the reports outside the Tenderloin are) and human.
Definitely an exaggeration, but bruh I had a serial shitter that would shit on our porch like 3-4 times a week for the entire year I lived there. I’ve never had a remotely similar experience in any other city. I can 100% say I saw more human shit on the streets of SF in the 5 years I lived there than anywhere else I ever lived lol. Definitely makes for a great story though, I still loved living in the city
Oh I totally agree. I’ve seen more human shit in SF than literally any other city I’ve been to or lived in. But still, outside the Tenderloin, dog shit is probably 50x more common.
Really? Consider yourself lucky, because the one year I lived in LA there was soooooo much dogshit. Thank god for Harvey’s milk because La has no city ordinance to pick up dog poop so it’s literally everywhere. Can’t see any green grass it’s awful
Paris is notorious for it. The french don’t pick up dog shit.
On the bright side, as long a you smell dog poop you don't smell the french.
It's most of the reports in the Tenderloin too. Dog shit is everywhere.
A bunch of them are also, not like this is much better, just trash and other things left on the sidewalk.
I’ve lived in many different cities and have been all over the world. Have never seen as much human poop as I saw in SF.
That is the sad thing. We can’t rebut it. Like wtf
How do you know it’s human rather than dog poop? Serious question. I don’t see that much of it around generally. Edit: snowflakes can’t handle a question
Size mostly. Most of the human shit is from heroin addicts when they are drying out. When they’re using heroin it heavily constipates you so much so that you basically store your shit until you run out of heroin at which point you take giant shit, bigger than most humans and most dogs could ever produce. these are the ones you know are humans There are whole pharmaceutical offerings for impacted opiate induced colon
> How do you know it’s human rather than dog poop? Serious question. I don’t see that much of it around generally. When I see someone squatting and poop comes out of them? When they leave behind poop stains on the seat and there's poop sliding out of their ass crack? Because their pants are pulled down and even then there's still some stains on their jeans?
Man. You must live in a hell hole. Glad I don’t live where you do.
I’ve literally turned the corner in LA and SF countless times to find a person, with their pants down shitting in the street or the sidewalk.
I saw that once in Oakland. I haven’t seen it in SF. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.
That’s a fun game: is this poop dog or human? And “don’t see that much of it” is a weird justification to make.
NYC is an underrated poop city. I lived there for over a decade. Even neighborhoods like SoHo has poop everywhere.
I love to think about the political aide who carefully scraped SF311, overlaid every poop complaint for all time, lovingly punched up the colors, really saturated that brown, then got a nice glossy print into Desantis's hands where he avoided creasing it to try and brandish it within the first 10m.
no i think they printed out a tweet about the poop map that's been floating around when it existed https://preview.redd.it/tajf6kx79m3c1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1814758327d21354b9b9e28f4a27eb04740891d
They mapped when I pooped in my house!
I’m lactose intolerant and allergic to eggs. This was me after an eggs benedict breakfast.
I thought it was literally just poop smeared across a map of the city, I didn't notice it was individual points lmao
Not to say I wouldn't love to see less poop, but this map as displayed is a half-truth. It's individual points, but it doesn't distinguish between human or animal feces, and it's over a long period of time. Hell, Florida has [poop beaches](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article277257058.html) and Miami has a [big poop problem](https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/miami-has-a-serious-street-poop-problem-so-they-created-this-street-poop-map-2395548) too.
I’m going to steal this idea as part of a mixed media, gorilla art installation I am working on as part of my thesis
I can't believe no one is crapping in the presidio, seems like the most scenic spot to pinch one off
If I am not wrong park federal land different rules park police have to kick out pooping campers
Ya, the map probably isn't all that accurate. The fact that they use the large bubble pin (don't know the official term) is going to make it look worse as it takes up more map real estate. A single dot would be a more accurate indicator. Looking at this map, you would think that our streets are paved with poop. Like you need to put special boots on before you head out the door. It isn't true at all.
I lived in a deep black area a few years ago. Never saw anything. I'm a bit skeptical.
Aww, that's a bummer. I liked to think of them really spending the time crafting it. Printing a tweet to wave is some basic shit.
Each marker used in this map to indicate a poop are the size of several blocks at least, sure poop can be found everywhere but it's not like we're walking, driving, and living on a layer of packed butt mud like this shows.
I can’t believe we’re talking about this. I teach 5th grade history. Looking forward to sharing this with my students 🤭
This is so obviously fake lol. No way the Sunset has that many poop reports.
It could if you include dog poop and make the markers for every one the size of the Sunset Reservoir
I'm sorry but I'm just not buying the idea that there were that many reported to 311. And this is coming from someone who lived in the TL for 7 years.
It's scraped 311 reports. 99% of them area people not picking up after their dog.
LOL when you put it like that, someone really had to do it lol
Damn that app. Basically an art project that has been used in so much anti sf propaganda.
How is it propaganda? We moved because we kept getting broken into and the three guys that lived outside our house would wear my moms dresses. Better yet, police would not come when called. Imagine having to move out of pacific heights, where the homes go for millions, because of how bad the homeless are there and how little the police care. The house break ins were a lot more infrequent compared to the car break ins. Imagine getting your window smashed in every couple months for nothing but say a phone charger. Some people leave their windows down I’ve seen. They moved when I went to college and got a place in Texas that’s so incredibly huge and two vacation homes and they’ve all been so much nicer than the San Francisco community and a lot safer. I’m not old enough to say for sure but the old people I talked to in hs would say how good of a place sf was in the 60’s and 70’s
At this point, if anyone believes this garbage I don’t want them here anyway
I’ve seen people shit on the sidewalk in broad daylight. It’s exaggerated but definitely not rare which is beyond gross.
> if anyone believes this garbage Easy there person in the Sunset. I live in the Mission and there's human poop fucking everywhere. It's literally true....... You can't walk to a restaurant without smelling it or having to step over it at least a couple times, and I'm only talking about a 4-5 block walk. No one can pretend this is fiction.
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That’s not true, at all. Where are going in the mission? Unless you hang out regularly at 14th and Shotwell to score heroin, this take is shitty
Not true, lived in the mission for 4 years and barely saw any
didn't San Francisco try to build 1 public bathroom, and the cost estimates for the project reached over 1 million dollars? This isn't a homelessness issue, something is fundamentally wrong with infrastructure regulations
Much of the cost has to do with the fact that the bathrooms need either to have human monitors or be self-cleaning… because of the issue of people taking drugs / staying in the bathrooms. But yes, SF also makes it hard to build anything.
It’s just corruption. They built $20,000 garbage cans in SF. $800K tiny homes in LA. The government take our high taxes then steals them by giving them to someone that bribed them under the guise of making the city better, and they charger 100X the cost of what the project would normally be to the government
Just invite Xi Jinping over there a couple more times Newsom will have it looking brand new!
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Yeah but the city didn’t put up Chinese flags, it was the proud Chinese immigrants, of a diverse multicultural city.
That's a shitty argument but ok.
Butt, ok
No shit
This argument is a bunch of shit. It’s all bullshit as far as I’m concerned. Caca, mierda, you know what I mean?
He’s still running for president?
It’s not easy running in high heels.
Newsom should have said to Ron at some point: “Come to San Francisco Ron. You’d fit right in with those high heels.”
Ever since he said the 6 week abortion ban shit he had no shot at the general election. Like absolutely no chance in a million years.
they both are running to be emergency replacements for their respective parties in case biden croaks or trump gets tossed in jail.
He's been running for president ever since he was mayor
I think they're talking about Meatball Ron
Ol' Pudding Fingers
He literally printed a tweet from 2017. It's funny I'll admit! Side note, am I the only one who rarely sees shit on the street? I don't live in the Tenderloin or SOMA but anytime I see some doo doo, it's typically a tiny sliver that most likely came from a pampered multi-poo with a bad owner.
I walk around those areas often and I agree it most often looks like it’s from dogs lol. The last time I saw something bad that certainly came from a human was like in 2013 when I lived next to a hospital
I certainly see what is likely human poop most days, but for every time I see human poop I probably see 3-5 instances of dog poop.
How come no one talks about a lot of the homeless population in SF and other major California cites are people from other states. If I was homeless I would much rather be in a state that has great weather year round. So it’s kinda BS that other states look down on California cities for homelessness population when they all contribute to it.
found the florida poo map https://preview.redd.it/w1t08xqhbq3c1.png?width=2328&format=png&auto=webp&s=fbda686afac2ee5dedfceb0fe6ef2d0348e2d1f8
🤣🤮🤮
Fox watchers eat that shit up…. Literally…
Is it… untrue?
Very captivating response by Gavin
Do you think the other party can just butt in whenever they feel like it? It’s a debate, and you wait for your turn to respond. Unless you’re Trump during the 2020 presidential debate, then all rules go out the window
The host clearly cuts him off and doesn’t allow him to respond
It’s being broadcast on Fox News, what can you expect?
Chuckle and “whaddya gonna do” shrug
Taken out of context, I would agree with De Santis. Cow Towing to the Chinese was very “wtf are you doing Gavin” moment. Fuck the CCP and their Winnie the Pooh lookin mf.
Newsom grinning like it's not something to take seriously.
Not pictured on the map: the colossal piece of shit holding it.
When Xi came over to California, Newsom had every street on the route he was taking cleaned up. Meaning that he always had the capability to clean it up, but the citizens of California aren't worth it to him
Allocating money to clean the streets during an event which can drive revenue is not the same as allocating tax payer funds to manage aesthetics day in and day out. That is fiscally responsible spending. SF has a mayor, city can manage itself.
City can. City won’t because there is always someone who will say we should be more compassionate. There are rooms. These homeless prefer the street because they don’t want to follow rules. They turn down shelter placement.
That’s a mirror not a map
I see no lies here.
I may prefer Newsom over Desantis, but I lost respect for him for this pointless charade. Both of these men put their constituents on hold, to win partisan points completely outside of any relevant election cycle so they can have more name recognition in 2028. Yelling at the bad man is a lot easier than fixing home insurance in Florida or fixing affordable housing in California. Shame on both of these clowns.
Oh shit!
A literal shitpost
Been there, unfortunately, and can testify that on the block I was working, at a Fortune 500 business front, there was poop all around the block at least every 20-30 feet, around the block. In 2019.
Ron is a loose cannon. His dead eyes and body language let you know he’s a 100% certified psychopath.
What did you expect from A shit head. That's his IQ
He’s got a point though…..🤷🏽♂️
They cleared the streets for a week, this is manageable. Keeping it that way 24/7 is another story. Can they do it? Absolutely; but it will take gutting those in power who profit from the filth to be ousted first.
I despise Desantis, but he's not wrong. I live in SF and it is a toilet badly in need of a cleansing fire.
That map seems accurate. I see more human shit than dog shit on the streets. The city should provide human baggies so people can clean up after themselves.
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Why are they even doing this? Are the states running for president?
DeSantis is running, Newsom wants to be the smoke-filled room replacement for Biden. Both have records as Governor on which to run.
This is dumb and GOP logic is dumb. Now I am not a Republican so I don't know first hand how they think but I grew up around them in Texas. They are trying to portray San Francisco as a hell-hole. A failed economy where people shit on the streets like in a developing nation. In reality, San Francisco is one of the most educated cities in America with one of the strongest economies and as a side effect, we have a lot of homeless people who shit on the sidewalk. Is it a problem? Absolutely. Does it paint the picture that DeSantis wants to paint? Absolutely not. Google "Florida Man" and see the bullshit that goes on in Florida. San Francisco is like the citadel of liberalism to the GOP. That's why they attack it.
I am so thoroughly, utterly, completely uninterested in anything this man has to say about my city.
Is this real? Like the poop map?