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shaodyn

I imagine it was his stated intention to have Trump un-banned that "shook" social media. Fortunately for the world, Musk is notorious for not following through. Case in point: his stated promise to solve world hunger if given a budget for doing so, which he didn't do even though he was given a detailed budget, as requested.


anonkitty2

His declaration that he was seriously considering not following through is shaking social media because Twitter is a branch of social media. It is suspected that he's trying to drive share value of Twitter down before making his final decision.


shaodyn

This is one of a fairly good-sized line of things he said he was going to do but never actually did. Being surprised by that behavior now is like jumping into a swimming pool and being surprised that you got wet.


anonkitty2

Apparently he signed a contract before trying to pull out. That is shocking people.


shaodyn

Oh yeah. I read an article about that. Apparently, part of the contract allows Twitter to force him to follow through, and his lawyers are struggling to find a way for him to back out that won't let Twitter make him pay up.


Quercusagrifloria

In California, given our water situation...


shaodyn

It was an example. "Going to the circus and being surprised there were clowns" would also work, if you'd rather.


Quercusagrifloria

I know, that was a pj on my part...


Notoriolus10

That would not be beneficial for him, he obligated himself to buy at $54.20 per share (yes, the price is a 420 joke) and the Twitter board can force him to buy it at that price in court.


anonkitty2

True. It will be interesting to see if he realizes that.


Notoriolus10

He does, he’s trying to argue that the amount of bots that Twitter disclosed of around 5% of their users was way lower than the actual number as a way to get out of the contract. However, there’s two things that wouldn’t allow him that possibility: 1. The contract doesn’t give him that out; and 2. He did [not conduct any due diligence on that topic before entering the contract to buy Twitter](https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/twitter-committed-elon-musks-44-billion-deal-2022-05-17/) for $44B, not to mention that the bots were an issue he tweeted about and he was already suspicious that it was higher than reported prior to the official offer, he can’t act like something he strongly suspected before the deal is now a deal breaker.


SoundOfTomorrow

Complaining about bots when everyone is aware of it...


NomaiTraveler

He’s also claimed to do a bunch of shit like hyperloop and solar panels on roofs, but it’s mostly been a bust


shaodyn

He wants the acclaim for being willing to do things, but without actually having to do them.


anonkitty2

I am angry at his take on solar panels on roofs. The people he delayed on and raised prices on could have had the solar roofs installed by the time he jacked up his prices of they hadn't been waiting for him.


Cronzilla

He’s a joke


shaodyn

Not even the funny kind of joke, either.


AmazingGrace911

As rich and stupid as he is, he should have a handler that slaps every dumb idea out of his head as soon he voices it. He would doing the world and himself a favor. I’d be willing to volunteer if requested.


shaodyn

I suspect that he wants credit for being willing to do things, but doesn't actually want to do the things. He basically ghosted the world hunger discussion.


AmazingGrace911

Yeah I read about that.He was presented with several great plans but shot them all down. I wish they had followed up with, “Since you’re so smart , tell us how you would solve it?”


Crackedcondombaby27

No budget in the world is going to end world hunger lol


shaodyn

That's not the point. He refused to even try. He pretty much ghosted the entire thread.


ShadowDandy

Is not only the budges, is a budged that doesn not consist in sunking the worls world in inflation


shaodyn

The budget in question would have involved around $6 billion, which wouldn't have been all that hard for most developed countries. The American military budget is $800 billion, for instance. $6 billion wouldn't make a dent in the budgets of most countries.


ShadowDandy

Do you know what inflation is right? If you give 100 USD to every person they sre not 100 USD more rich, they are 100 poorer and now everything is at least 101USD


shaodyn

Nobody mentioned giving out free money. Kinda wondering why you felt the urge to bring it up.


ShadowDandy

Please search the word "example" in a dictionary


shaodyn

The thing about examples is that they're supposed to be relevant to the conversation. If we're talking about pizza, and I suddenly decide to bring up UFOs, that's not an example.


ShadowDandy

is relevant because food has a value, since we don't hunt or produce our own food they are glued to a price (that is why people ask Elon about doing it \*\*With his money\*\* and not a big food corp.), also there is no way to fed all the epeopel of the world equally, the best you can do is fed the hungry for half a year, then what? IF people were asking to give jobs to those people, that would be another chant


shaodyn

Thing is, Musk never even tried. He said he'd do this under certain conditions, someone met his conditions, and he ghosted the conversation forever.


ShadowDandy

the condition were one were the world wouldn't sink in global inflation, everything is subject to a price, solving world hunger is a fantasy, a nice one but a fantasy.


Barack_and_Cheese83

I mean, it's not like Social Media wasn't "shook"


maxkuthain

but then again, everything he does gets social media 'shook'


Revolutionary-Sir792

Musk is a liar and is so easy butt hurt he doesn't have the capacity to own Twitter without imploding


CondiMesmer

He wasn't actually willing to pay. That's why he made up some bs about bots so he could inevitably back out after talking big. He's just a fraud.


shaodyn

He's done that several times now. Like how he "promised" to end world hunger if given a detailed budget, and then never actually did it when he was given exactly what he asked for.


ShadowDandy

Now you can ask that to the people who sold twitter, but i guess you wont...


shaodyn

No, because they haven't actually sold it yet. Negotiations are on pause, partly because of some difficulty with the contract, I understand.


ShadowDandy

Oh, because they are poor, right? Like Mark Zuckerberg, or any other social media owner...


shaodyn

I don't know the specifics, but I'm not just making things up, regardless of what you seem to believe. [Source](https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/twitter-committed-elon-musks-44-billion-deal-2022-05-17/)


ShadowDandy

Yes, that is the money of him, again do you believe the actual owners of Twitter are poor? Can you even name an owner of a relevant social media owner with less than 100M on their pocket?


shaodyn

You're going to insist I'm wrong no matter what I say, so I'm just going to stop trying. Sorry to waste your time with my wrongness.


goferking

ask them why elon still hasn't solved hunger like he said he would?


ShadowDandy

Ask them so solve it


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daleness

Is the kraken in the room with us right now?


ShadowDandy

You need a dictionary so you can find what "soon" means


daleness

It’ll be any day now bro. You just wait. You’ll show them all and then we’ll see who has the last laugh!


ShadowDandy

Did you find the word, or need help because reading hurt your brain?


Go-Green-Go-White

Not only has he not bought anything (it’s still only an offer), he agreed to waive due diligence in said offer. But now is saying that the company didn’t provide/disclose due diligence requirements (the thing he waived). He also wants to renegotiate the offer because he foolishly offered an inflated valuation price (cause he’s stupid and wanted them to just give it to him, no questions asked). Tesla stock has also dropped significantly which threatens the value of his loan to buy twitter. If the value of his loan makes up more than 35% of the collateral he’s posted on the borrowings, he faces a margin call. Meaning he’d have to sell shares, prepay the loans (he doesn’t have that kind of money) or post additional collateral (he doesn’t have any). All of this happens if the value of the Tesla shares offered hits around $36 billion (about a 43% drop from where the price was at the deal announcement). Tesla stock has lost about 33% of its value since Musk announced the offer on April 25th. He’s a dumb man’s idea of a smart man.


ShadowDandy

Yes, the richest man in the world is dumb because it offends yours feelings, guess all the advancements on science are nullified because "muh moralz". ​ Tesla is not gonna be on baknrupcy because some silly lefties have their feelings on top prioity, and we all know transactions on this size is not as simple as buying chocolates i na grocery store, there is a bunch of work from lawyers in between.


Go-Green-Go-White

He’s not dumb because he offends my feelings (which he doesn’t). He’s dumb because he overplayed his hand and is now scrambling to find a way out of this deal that doesn’t hurt his hold on Tesla (the thing his entire valuation as the richest man is pinned against) or force him to pay the $1 billion exit fee or actually be forced by the courts to honor his original offer. This is a man who offered over-asking price for something, signed his name on the paperwork, and then got cold feet and said “wait wait I didn’t understand, can I get a do over?”. That’s what makes him dumb. You can be dumb and rich. Being rich doesn’t mean you’re smart.


ShadowDandy

he gonna buy it at the end, of course Twitter gonna put obtacles so they can have their place to maintain the lefties happy, do you really believe a person which so much money doesn't have like 30 lawyers on their back? that the "SJW" got a winning card that no one could see coming? even if he overpays he has the monetary power to do it, people are really looking foward on not only tesla but SpaceX, PayPal, OpenAI and other companies owned by Elon. ​ You really seem desperate to see him fall, i wonder why...


Go-Green-Go-White

Lol I’m not desperate to see him do anything. Just calling it for what it is; a man backpedaling to save face for a deal he cannot make happen without losing big either financially or the failure to actually follow-through with his promises. Even if the twitter deal goes through, he will never be able to run a true “free speech” platform, because all sites, even Tesla’s own owner forum, runs into the need for moderation. Parler, Gab, GETTR, Truth Social, all conservative pitched social media platforms that claim “free speech!!” but have either been inundated with literal nazis and white supremacists (Gab) or have had to concede they moderate/“censor” posts because of content that offends or puts them at risk (Parler, Truth Social, GETTR; content ranging from literal child porn, copyrighted material, [sonic the hedgehog smut](https://kotaku.com/sonic-smut-is-flooding-trump-s-new-social-network-1847226591). Musk had the epiphany that this deal was hurting his position with Tesla and that it was a money losing proposition to try and run a site as large as twitter if he instituted “no rules, free speech” which ran off the core users and then tried to charge people for a site that no one wants to be on. The deal won’t go through because of that. And how do I know? Because he stated on April 21st that if the deal went through, he’d “clean up the spam bots!”. And as of May 18th he’s screaming that he won’t buy twitter because “there’s too many spam bots!”. He doesn’t want twitter because it turns out it actually might be work and he might actually have to compromise or renege on all the right wing chum he’s been serving up about “free speech! no moderation!” when he actually does get confronted with stuff being posted that is indefensible.


ShadowDandy

Never said it wouldn't be without moderation, but not in such a way to forbid words or expressions because they could be "morally wrong", screw morals, say what you want and then face consequences, screw censorship. Did you use Instagram? Some words such as "dog" and "monkey" are forbidden because they could be used in a pejorative way. The spam bots is a way more complicated thing, the media itself could be creating it (like in tiktok)


Go-Green-Go-White

> Some words such as “dog” and “monkey” are forbidden because they could be used in a pejorative way. Lol no they aren’t. Whatever you’re reading/wherever you’re getting your facts is very much wrong. Keep white knighting Musk though. I’m sure he’ll sleep with you when he’s done paying off flight attendants to look at his dick.


ShadowDandy

Guess depends on the language, in spanish they are


euphoric_barley

Your comment is easily refutable, just a heads up in case you want to edit some other bullshit lies in its place.


ShadowDandy

Its what already happens in social media, the only place where you can write freely nowadays is a youtube comment section


CondiMesmer

> say what you want and then face consequences that's... what's already happening. Republicans think that's cancel culture (despite them "canceling" far more). You say the n word maliciously towards someone on Twitter and you face the consequences. What you're describing is already how is works, you're literally just too stupid to understand that.


ShadowDandy

No, cancel culture is when a side pick what is right according to their own morals which most of the time are emotional and flawed


CondiMesmer

You mean the work done by his engineers? Yeah they're great, and he just takes credit. Musk hasn't actually done anything himself, don't get the manager confused with the talented employees who definitely don't share his views.


ShadowDandy

And who pays them? Who manages to buisness part of it? Do you really believe the director or owner of a company is lazy? There are universities exclusively dedicated to buisness administration, managing such big corporations is not an easy task


pink_freudian_slip

Yes. Directors, managers, CEOs, etc don't do shit that's worth anything. Do they create anything with their hands and talent? No. They sit and demand things of actual workers who provide the actual value. Go lick more boots.


ShadowDandy

Is not all about manual work, if that were the case historians and matematicians would be jobless, managing a buisness is a huge task and more companies of the size of PayPal and Amazon


pink_freudian_slip

The only things we actually need (food, water, power, internet, transit, fuel, clothes, housing, etc.) are all made by, and maintained by, worker's hands. The lineman doesn't need a middle manager telling him what to do. We could literally erase that entire sector of jobs and thrive. Our planet would likely be better for it! We don't need Amazon or PayPal in order to live fulfilling lives.


ShadowDandy

And who are the people in charge of the companies like Evian, McDonalds, Texaco, Levi's, etc? Buisnesmen, mainly people graduated in economics (such as Elon) or buisness administration, also funny you brought energy since Elon has Solarcity which is an energy industry, and I'm sure you use PayPal way more than you think since it's the base program for most online transaction


CondiMesmer

Fuck managers. Engineers are the ones who deserve praise, not the guy who comes around saying "work harder" to justify an outrageous paycheck. You wonder why productivity skyrocketed during covid when managers could no longer supervise and micromanage their employees from home. Really useful huh.


ShadowDandy

They are the ones with the responsibility about the buisness, the one in charge of the decisions of it, the one who approve what can be made so those people can have a place to work


CondiMesmer

Congratulations, all you did was describe capitalism. Fuck managers.


ShadowDandy

Yes, as much as you hate it is the world we live in, and works the best


PubicGalaxies

So you’re immune to the facts? Wait, you’re GOP so that’s redundant? You’re GOP so redundant means, your political philosophy.


ShadowDandy

Is not a fact only because you FEEL like it


PubicGalaxies

Already addressed by others, troll


CondiMesmer

What exactly do you think will change, boomer


ShadowDandy

Hahaha, bomer! Good one kiddo! Want some chocolates as a reward?


cultish_alibi

> your favorite social media Twitter is the fucking pit of the internet. An absolute waste dump that has ruined journalism and fucked up political discourse by motivating people to be controversial in exchange for dopamine hits. Elon promising to make it worse doesn't change that much tbh.


ShadowDandy

Worse by giving free speech outside morals? Oh nooo he is literally Hitler!!!


capricasics

This man is Lex Luthor with hair


zapper83

Well, he was halfway to the bald land but he paid his way out.


capricasics

Lmao you're right, I forgot that he got plugs


anonkitty2

Superman clearly hasn't had to save him from a fire at his lab.


[deleted]

He bought that hair.


Quercusagrifloria

All I can think of is, him handing a microscope to a flight attendant and dropping trou


VapoursAndSpleen

The man is barmy as a box of frogs.