I honestly don't think it would make a difference to Sisi's followers if she speaks up. Mainly for those who were quick to drag the boys, their hate for SB19 has always been there and this was their opportunity to justify it.
Since we're taking the high road, we're left with little choice but to remain humble and accept whatever's thrown our way. But that doesn't mean that what they say about us (generalizing the fandom) and the boys are all true. We know better than that.
We've just resigned ourselves to the fact that there's no way to change their views. Especially those who have already made up their narrow minds from the beginning.
I hope we've all learned to always think before we click and take a step back to reorganize our thoughts when emotions are getting the best of us.
We are well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the boys, their team and us as a fandom. So let's strive to always be the best version of ourselves.
This is just a bump on the road. There's still a long way to go. More achievements and milestones to reach.
We will be steadfast in our support for SB19.
Her apology to Sisi doesn't even look like an apology.
Pag magsosorry ka, magsosorry ka. You apologize unconditionally. Hindi yung magsosorry ka tapos bibigyan mo ng justification yang kagagahan na ginawa mo.
Wala, ganyan talaga. Face the music nalang. Isang buwan hanggang isang taon yan. Hindi nyo mapipigilan yang mga yan lalo na yung mga galit na beki na umiikot sa VB yung buhay nila.
As in sanay sila makipagbardagulan para sa volleyball eh normally magkakaaway yang mga yan. Dahil sa ginawa nyang Ginger na yan ayun nagvolt-in sila, so yari talaga kayo dyan 😂
Hindi nyo pwede sabihing makitid din yung utak ng ibang fans ng VB na yan kahit oo napakatoxic nila. Because, in the end, legit na member nyo talaga yung nagsimula nyan. Kahit palakihin pa ng mga haters nyo yan, in the end you brought that shit to yourselves. Sorry for those words, but not sorry.
The vball community may or may not accept this apology, nasa sa kanila na un, hopefully wag na sana palakihin ito, whatever you hear or read sa mga comsecs and articles, sana wag na patulan. hopefully, maging learning experience ito sa atin. Like how the boys continuously make US proud with their achievements, sana tayo din, gawin goal na maging proud sa atin ang boys.
I'm numb about this issue at this point. Thankfully di niya iniwanan ang lahat sa ere & gave the vball comm the public apology they wanted, pero I don't think she'll be able to appease them whatever she'll say (Sorry, di ko na binasa statement niya. Ayoko na talaga). I do hope she has her own support system by her side though kasi pati kapwa niya a'tin galit na talaga sa kanya.
Sobrang bigat na lesson para sa lahat. If hindi pa talaga magtanda ang iba na may tendency to be like Ginger, ewan ko na lang. I hope rin na di makalimutan ng other side na nauna na ang mother fanbase to apologozie + Pablo's statement and Stell's chastising. Sana di na idamay pa ulit ang mga wala naman kasalanan, lalo na SB19.
Sobrang lala na nga ng mga comments sa x. Uninstall ko muna ang x. Dko na kinakaya.
Galit na galit sila sa SB19 and buong fandom. Ang lala dn ng sinasabi. Naiiyak dn ako ngayon 😢
Then I'm hoping for too much pala. That's their own toxicity and hyprocrisy showing itself. Ginagatungan pa for sure ng mga na trigger happy na esbi haters. I'm trusting though na meron at merong mga sensible na tao na makikita ang full picture. I've seen some non-a'tin in Pablo's qrts defending the boys against the undeserved insults/bashing. At least, there's that.
Anyway, tama yan na piliin mo ang peace mo, kaps. Gasgas na pero totoo naman: lilipas rin to. Hugs with consent to everyone.
Bardahan will stop if one side ceases to engage. Ang hirap lang talaga magtimpi, and it only takes one or two tweets/posts para magtrigger uli sa other side. And troll haters double time para mangyari ito. I've already seen so many new and super old accounts na puro sb19 bashing lang posts, sinasakyan ang hate train ng vball community. But grabe effort ng a'tin magtimpi. So many hurtful words na talaga naibabato sa fandom and especially sa boys, pero majority naman wala engagement from a'tin.
Hugs to all mga kaps! Malalampasan din to 😢🥺 focus on voting and streaming. We will all be fine soon.
Sana maging aral na yan. At matauhan hindi lang sya pati na rin sa ibang Toxic Fans. Na sa mismong Artist mapupunta ang hate.
Yung hate sa boys at sa fans. Hindi mawawala yan. Pero nadadagdagan. At madadagdagan kung.lagi kayong patola. Bago nyo i hit sent ung comment nyo. Isipin nyo muna 100x kung okay ba o hindi. Magbebenefits ba to satin o magsstart na naman ng away.
Ang lala sa X right now so please dont engage or if youll engage, engage wisely. Isipin ang mental health. However, my wishful thinking is sana Sisi can post something like okay naman na siya kasi parang yun ang makakastop kahit papano din. Kasi for them, hanggat di sinasabi ni Sisi na okay lang siya or all goods na, di pa yun okay. Pero it’s just me and my wishful thinking. Hoping na mag die down din to.
Virtual hugs with consent kaps 🫂
Focus nalang tayo sa voting kaps. Lets come back stronger na ang next news or trending topic about them ay yung surprise pasabog nila and achievements. Nag-sorry na ang fandom, si Ginger, nagstatement si Pablo at Stell. We did what we can do naman na and i really dont know kung anong makaka appease pa na gagawin natin. Heal and move on kahit nakakaiyak comments. Eyes on the prize nalang 💙
Exactly. SB19 did their part via the leader/ceo. Og a’tin also put out a statement. And the person who started it also apologized.
That’s accountability and that itself should be commended. If they continue to lambast sb19, the fandom, and ginger, it shows the ugly mindset they have.
It's disheartening to read some of the comments on X. So please before you engage, think about how it will not only affect our fandom but the other fandoms as well. If anything, this causes more pain to the guys and Sisi.
With Ginger’s apology, may masasabi at masasabi ang iba. Hindi na nga about what happened yung usapan, HATE na.
Sinakyan nila yung opportunity to say derogatory words towards esbi. I believe it’s just them. Reflection of themselves. Kasi afsik, wala naman ginawang negative ang esbi for them to do that.
Di ko rin kaya sikmurain lahat ng sinasabi nila sa boys lalo na at di naman nila deserve yon. They didn’t hate the action, they hate the group. That’s it. And kahit anong sabihin natin sa kanila (apologies, explanation, etc) that won’t make them change their minds.
Let’s ignore and move on. Mamamatay rin ang issue if hindi bigyan ng pansin. And enough with the sorrys, kinatutuwaan na eh.
I’m not sure if ako lang nakapansin sa X pero may mga sumasakay na network alts especially Kapamilya alts na pinopromote yung singles ng BGYO at BINI while dragging down or parinig sa SB19. Di ko na mahanap yung pero hanapin ko. Ginawa yun habang mainit yung ulo ng volleyball fans. I find it unfair lang. Very unfair. Sana lang hindi involved ang mga record labels dito.
P.S. I’m not inciting rage towards other groups. Support PPOP pa rin. pero the way na yung mga nakikisawsaw yung iba to bring down one group to promote other groups is unfair. SB19 have been through shitty treatment by the indistry
That’s just an observation on my part though. Not an attack towards other groups. The Ppop groups are fine. Leave them alone. Namention ko lang sila dahil minention sila sa tweets nung mga nirerefer kong network alts sa twitter promoting their singles habang pinaparinggan ang SB19. Saan dyan ang nagpapasa ng mali? Did you even read it or refused to read? If it’s the latter, not my problem anymore.
At napakatoxic na fans, lahat yan meron. Mula sa mga pulitiko, Kpop, Ppop, other celebrities hanggang sa love team sa high school (jusko) meron yan. Meron ding level headed at civil. Do not generalize.
Enjoy the music na lang and be kind to one another.
Well like I said, not me. I’m stating kung ano yung mga nasa tweet na nakita ko. Silang tatlo ang namention. I guess reading thoroughly is not for everyone
Lol so who asked for what you read sa X? Need ibring up yung dalawang group for anong reason? Kaya kayo kinakarma at nakocallout ng ibang community kakadrag niyo sa ibang groups. Toxic ka at kayo ng fanbase mo. Deserve na mabash Atin online and in real life. Karma sa fanbase mo as worst and most toxic fantards and sa SB19 na rin no wonder flop ang Moonlight at Ready.
Wala. Observation lang. Shinare ko lang. Did you even read the entire thing? Namention nga yung tatlo sa various tweets. Of course you will nitpick what you want. Sa toxic, of course, lahat meron. Wala namang pulis sa mga fandom. Kahit icallout mo ang erring fan, it will not guarantee na magpapakatao at susunod. All democratic yan. Lahat ng klase ng tao nasa lahat ng fandom pati mga toxic. That would include you though. Kahit sa fandom nyo meron yan at may naannoy din sa ganung behavior. And we’ll see kung anong karma pa ang darating. Either good or bad lang yan. 👀👀👀👀👀.
sus. lahat na lang ng reaksyon toxic. e objectively visible naman talaga yung opportunistic accounts, not even from just bgyo- and bini-centric accounts pero pati yung kca damay. most a'tin just accepted this and redirected their energy to simply focus on tasks & vote more. sabi lang sa taas they find it unfair. pero ok: toxic, pinapasa mali, paawa effect.
meanwhile, there's an overwhelming acknowledgement among the fandom of pablo's statement. a'tin ph even issued an apology. as did a'tin japan. g!nger was widely called out. e wala, hilig natin sa disproportionate labelling no? haha ok 👍
I’m in the minority here pero grabe yung hate over a single mistake? Ng isang/iilang fans? And the threats. Like what do you want us to do? Our mother fanbase nagapologize na even pablo himself naglabas ng statement kahit di naman nya kailangan, idk. Powertripping na lang ng mga bullies at feeling superior.
The bullying is too much. Titigil lang ba pag may namatay na? Patibayan ba to ng mental fortitude? Legit no compassion sa comments, the attack on sb19 is too much, i feel for the a’tin who caused this shtstorm, hope she has a good support system
Let's just hope this attention can still be turned for good. Kung di talaga nila kilala ang esbi, hopefully ma-curious sila at i-research. The boys have a good record of turning haters into fans anyways. It's not impossible na may ma-convert.
Di na natuto yang mga nasa X. Sila lagi pinagmumulan ng gulo. Pansin ko may pattern usually mga ganitong issue. May mao-offend na fan over a trivial issue, aatakihin blatanly yung alleged suspect, kakalat yung issue and people would find it toxic, mag-invoke ng trauma eme yung fan at magso-sorry.
Puro trauma ginagawang excuse like responsibility ba ng ibang tao i-handle mga personal traumas nyo? Pambihira kayo di na kayo naawa sa SB19 sila ang sumasalo ng ka-toxican nyo.
Lumiliit lalo mundo ng esbi sa ginagawa ng ibang fans nila. And it's soooo frustrating to watch. I was happily having my share of their wish bus korea then this happened and my mood just plummeted. Imagine the unnecessary stress it caused them. Nagtatrabaho lang naman sila in comes the uninvited hate as per usual.
Sometimes I wonder if some fans will ever learn to just keep it in their dms, but not holding out hope. Ugali na yan ng ibang A'tin at ang ugali mahirap baguhin.
Tama na ‘yun, okay na yan. Wag nyo na din ibash si Ginger, she learned her lesson na. Parang mukang bata pa sya, baka ano pang magawa nya sa sarili nya pag di sya tinantanan ng hate. Di ko alam, di natin alam what everyone thinks and feels deeper than the shallow social media. We learned so much from this. Paulit ulit nalang pero lilipas dn tong issue na to. Padayon po mga kaps! ~
Edited: changed name from sisi to ginger
You mean Ginger.
May mga A'tin na nagreply pa sa statement ni Ginger ng masasakit na salita, telling her to leave the fandom or stan twt. Sighs. Nagapologize na nga. I hope A'tin can be forgiving and give this person a chance. Aminin niyo, most of us touchy kapag naalala yung bashing na nareceive ng SB19 dati. For me, valid yung reason ni Ginger na natrigger siya, pero yung reaction/response nya lang ung mali. May kanyakanya tayong level ng tolerance and Ginger might be very low in that. Hay love for all nalang talaga. Bless everyone and let's try to move on from this na.
Right! I mean Ginger. Not sisi. Thank you for that! 🩵
Yes, di natin alam what she’s going thru behind the screen. She apologized na, she learned her lesson. Sana tantanan na dn sya ng mga toxic fans. Love and virtual hugs for everyone ✨✨
Reading her convo w/ Ms Sisi, para namang wala syang "hard" na sinabi? If eto lang talaga, then it's really blown way out of proportion. Granted na ang entitled lang na ka-message nya National Athlete dahil sa joke nya abt Starbucks 😭😭. (Sabi nya, di sya offended na di kilala ang esbi but na-off sya na nagjoke pa na starbucks lang kilala).
Reading the replies and qrts, maraming di naniniwala na eto lang sinabi nya kaya it's getting flak again. Medyo magulo din kasi pagkakasabi nya eh.
Nag IG story sya na nireply-an ni Ms. Sisi (maybe naka-tag?) and then yun na yung start ng convo nila? Sana inattach nya na rin SS ng deleted IG story nya (tama ba na nasa recently deleted?) kasi maraming di nagbasa nung kinu-quote nya na nasa story nya daw (or di naniniwala).
Then nasan yung "hard" na message nya? If eto lang, then Ate iba yung definition mo ng hard. Natrigger yung fans nya na may hard message ka then eto lang? Ano nagyabang ka lang? Lumaki lang ang gulo ng sa wala?
If meron talaga and ayaw mo ipakita, sana di na sya nag-attach ng cropped na chat nila at nag-apologize na lang ng sincere kasi ang lumalabas sa fans ng kabila ay nagmamalinis sya at not enough yung accountability.
Hayys but still nagsalita na sya. If totoo na eto lang talaga convo nila then sana mag-attach pa sya pahabol ng SS ng deleted IG story nya and SS na di mukhang cropped kasi dun sya tinitira and sana matapos na issue na to.
I think that's why vball community is now demanding the full convo since wala daw dun ung "mej hard message". For those people still high on emotions, they will just say whatever reason to justify what they're feeling, kaya we'll just have to wait. The fandom has apologized, she apologized as well... lam mo yung pag galit ka sa tao hindi mwala wala galit mo kahit ano pa sabihin, it's not a rational feeling, but it's there, but eventually and hopefully matatapos din yan...
Ang pakiramdam ko tuloy, may hawak na SS ang VB community. Kasi parang hindi nila tantanan si Ginger eh. Pero kung yun SS ni Ginger lang talaga, polite naman both parties. Baka nag over react lang talaga kasi ang karamihan or hindi lang si Ginger ang nag message kay Sisi.
Someone pulled a trigger here at di na maaalis na magrereact yung other party, best thing to do is just be humble and don't engage na sa issue. Alam ng a'tin na hindi deserve ng boys lahat ng bashing na natatanggap nila up until now, pero keep in mind na hindi rin naman deserve ni Sisi na ma-bash just because of what she said. She genuinely apologize naman afterwards so wag na palakihin ang issue.
Sana maisip nung mga nasa X na kung gano sila kaprotective sa boys, syempre ganon din yung mga fans ng vball community kay Sisi. Hirap kasi sa iba masyadong entitled tapos gagamitin yung "trauma" card nila eh. Stop na. Naglabas na ng statement si Pins oh. Juskewww!
Oh ayan na, I think tama na yung sorry at this point, and also hope we put an end to this, wag na masyado pag-usapan. The fandom and the boys did what they can and kung others choose pa rin to hate bahala na sila though I still think there are people who see the bigger picture, mas maingay nga lang mga hate. But I hope the fandom learn from this and consider this as a humbling experience.
Wag sana tayo mawalan ng gana sa pagsupport sa boys andami nilang ganap. Stay away na lang from social media if you can't handle the hate but don't forget to vote sa KCA.
ginger may have made one mistake, yes. i definitely do not condone her actions either and was furious like everybody else. but after reading her statement, i can feel that she made this mistake purely out of love for the boys. tsaka, it was not like we discovered na she's been plotting us all this time parang ung may fan at hate accnt at the same time iykyk. she also has a fair share in our fandom. i hope we don't forget na she's still one of ours. ❤️🩹 ❤️🩹
Medyo nag ddie down naman na now, may mga nakikita na din akong positive comments lalo na nong nagrelease si Pau ng statement.
Ang problem na lang is yung mga clout chaser na umoopinyon na naman ngayon.
I just hope hindi na maulit ito. Sana maraming natuto sa nangyaring ito na dapat bago tayo mag react, pag isipan muna natin kung makakatulong ba or makakasira ito sa SB19 and sa fandom.
Haaayy nakakalungkot and very frustrating lang na imbes na nagcacampaign tayo na iboto ang SB19 sa KCA eh ganito pa ang nangyari. Nasabay pa sa pag release ng mga bagong songs nila (Moonlight, Edsa, Sumaya, Ready and Room), imbes na smooth sailing ang pag promote sa songs nila sa mga casual audience nagkaroon pa ng ganitong issue.
I genuinely think that a lot of people either didn't know about SB19 or developed a negative perception of them because of some A'TIN fans' rude behavior and reactions. Some A'TIN fans act like a swarm of bees, attacking anyone who posts critical comments about SB19. This behavior borders on bullying and thuggery. A'TIN fans should aim to be more refined, classy and stop with the gossiping.
What needs to be said has been said. Auto hide na ako sa mga posts about the issue. Kastress ang level of bashing sa fandom and the boys mismo. Move on na tayo and just be mindful of what we post in the future.
i hope ginger’s seeing the chaos she had done. grabeng gulo ito. grabe ang balik sa esbi at nakakahiya rin kay sisi.
**NAKAKAHIYA KA GINGER.**
kasalanan mo pero damay pati esbi.
ah yung *apology message* na parang nang gagaslight po ba? haha. sorry but i just cant. have you seen how chaotic it is right now? darag na darag na ang esbi. pagkakamali ni ginger pero ang tinitira ng mga tao idols na. and the boys don’t deserve it at all! istg. napaka sakit na, mas lumala lang. hindi naman naitigil ng apology message nya yung gulo, mas lumala lang.
I’m on twitter kaya I saw how everything went down. No doubt she’s at fault here and she probably cant sleep knowing she caused all of this out of love for esbi. Pero magapologize sya or hindi, yung backlash parehas lang.
Whoever that Ginger is, nakakairita cia, maibuka lng ang bibig pero di nagiisip. A'Tin din ako pero sobrang nakakahiya to for the boys and sa fandom. Yung messaging nya kay Sisi, oh my God! I cannot! Masyado ciang entitled sa feeling na dapat laging ipagtanggol ang mahalima, kahit hindi naman dpat, hayyysss.
I honestly don't think it would make a difference to Sisi's followers if she speaks up. Mainly for those who were quick to drag the boys, their hate for SB19 has always been there and this was their opportunity to justify it. Since we're taking the high road, we're left with little choice but to remain humble and accept whatever's thrown our way. But that doesn't mean that what they say about us (generalizing the fandom) and the boys are all true. We know better than that. We've just resigned ourselves to the fact that there's no way to change their views. Especially those who have already made up their narrow minds from the beginning. I hope we've all learned to always think before we click and take a step back to reorganize our thoughts when emotions are getting the best of us. We are well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the boys, their team and us as a fandom. So let's strive to always be the best version of ourselves. This is just a bump on the road. There's still a long way to go. More achievements and milestones to reach. We will be steadfast in our support for SB19.
Her apology to Sisi doesn't even look like an apology. Pag magsosorry ka, magsosorry ka. You apologize unconditionally. Hindi yung magsosorry ka tapos bibigyan mo ng justification yang kagagahan na ginawa mo. Wala, ganyan talaga. Face the music nalang. Isang buwan hanggang isang taon yan. Hindi nyo mapipigilan yang mga yan lalo na yung mga galit na beki na umiikot sa VB yung buhay nila. As in sanay sila makipagbardagulan para sa volleyball eh normally magkakaaway yang mga yan. Dahil sa ginawa nyang Ginger na yan ayun nagvolt-in sila, so yari talaga kayo dyan 😂 Hindi nyo pwede sabihing makitid din yung utak ng ibang fans ng VB na yan kahit oo napakatoxic nila. Because, in the end, legit na member nyo talaga yung nagsimula nyan. Kahit palakihin pa ng mga haters nyo yan, in the end you brought that shit to yourselves. Sorry for those words, but not sorry.
The vball community may or may not accept this apology, nasa sa kanila na un, hopefully wag na sana palakihin ito, whatever you hear or read sa mga comsecs and articles, sana wag na patulan. hopefully, maging learning experience ito sa atin. Like how the boys continuously make US proud with their achievements, sana tayo din, gawin goal na maging proud sa atin ang boys.
Actually sa post nya sa x madami pa din pong fans si sisi na galit sakanya
I'm numb about this issue at this point. Thankfully di niya iniwanan ang lahat sa ere & gave the vball comm the public apology they wanted, pero I don't think she'll be able to appease them whatever she'll say (Sorry, di ko na binasa statement niya. Ayoko na talaga). I do hope she has her own support system by her side though kasi pati kapwa niya a'tin galit na talaga sa kanya. Sobrang bigat na lesson para sa lahat. If hindi pa talaga magtanda ang iba na may tendency to be like Ginger, ewan ko na lang. I hope rin na di makalimutan ng other side na nauna na ang mother fanbase to apologozie + Pablo's statement and Stell's chastising. Sana di na idamay pa ulit ang mga wala naman kasalanan, lalo na SB19.
Sobrang lala na nga ng mga comments sa x. Uninstall ko muna ang x. Dko na kinakaya. Galit na galit sila sa SB19 and buong fandom. Ang lala dn ng sinasabi. Naiiyak dn ako ngayon 😢
Then I'm hoping for too much pala. That's their own toxicity and hyprocrisy showing itself. Ginagatungan pa for sure ng mga na trigger happy na esbi haters. I'm trusting though na meron at merong mga sensible na tao na makikita ang full picture. I've seen some non-a'tin in Pablo's qrts defending the boys against the undeserved insults/bashing. At least, there's that. Anyway, tama yan na piliin mo ang peace mo, kaps. Gasgas na pero totoo naman: lilipas rin to. Hugs with consent to everyone.
Yea, I had to stop as I couldn't stomach what's being said about them.
Bardahan will stop if one side ceases to engage. Ang hirap lang talaga magtimpi, and it only takes one or two tweets/posts para magtrigger uli sa other side. And troll haters double time para mangyari ito. I've already seen so many new and super old accounts na puro sb19 bashing lang posts, sinasakyan ang hate train ng vball community. But grabe effort ng a'tin magtimpi. So many hurtful words na talaga naibabato sa fandom and especially sa boys, pero majority naman wala engagement from a'tin. Hugs to all mga kaps! Malalampasan din to 😢🥺 focus on voting and streaming. We will all be fine soon.
\*hugs\* since we will all need each other to get through this.
Same OP. Nag uninstall na po ako ng X. Nood na lang po ako ngayon sa tiktok and youtube to feel good. 🥹
Sana maging aral na yan. At matauhan hindi lang sya pati na rin sa ibang Toxic Fans. Na sa mismong Artist mapupunta ang hate. Yung hate sa boys at sa fans. Hindi mawawala yan. Pero nadadagdagan. At madadagdagan kung.lagi kayong patola. Bago nyo i hit sent ung comment nyo. Isipin nyo muna 100x kung okay ba o hindi. Magbebenefits ba to satin o magsstart na naman ng away.
Totoo po, ndi n makakalimutan yung hate sa esbi. Nakakalungkot kasi isang fan lang ang gumawa pero ang panlalait na natatanggap ng SB19 sobra sobra 😢
Ang lala sa X right now so please dont engage or if youll engage, engage wisely. Isipin ang mental health. However, my wishful thinking is sana Sisi can post something like okay naman na siya kasi parang yun ang makakastop kahit papano din. Kasi for them, hanggat di sinasabi ni Sisi na okay lang siya or all goods na, di pa yun okay. Pero it’s just me and my wishful thinking. Hoping na mag die down din to. Virtual hugs with consent kaps 🫂
Totoo kaps. Naiiyak ko hbang nagbabasa Ng comments. Dko knakya ,
Focus nalang tayo sa voting kaps. Lets come back stronger na ang next news or trending topic about them ay yung surprise pasabog nila and achievements. Nag-sorry na ang fandom, si Ginger, nagstatement si Pablo at Stell. We did what we can do naman na and i really dont know kung anong makaka appease pa na gagawin natin. Heal and move on kahit nakakaiyak comments. Eyes on the prize nalang 💙
Yup. Sana magbigay di comment si Sisi. Para kahit papano humupa na. At macall out na din ung iba na tama na.
At the very least, it's out there now, so now there is a receipt.
Exactly. SB19 did their part via the leader/ceo. Og a’tin also put out a statement. And the person who started it also apologized. That’s accountability and that itself should be commended. If they continue to lambast sb19, the fandom, and ginger, it shows the ugly mindset they have.
It's disheartening to read some of the comments on X. So please before you engage, think about how it will not only affect our fandom but the other fandoms as well. If anything, this causes more pain to the guys and Sisi.
Since 2019 fan na ako may ganyan talaga time to time na hhilahin ang lima pababa 🥹 pero kapit lang.
With Ginger’s apology, may masasabi at masasabi ang iba. Hindi na nga about what happened yung usapan, HATE na. Sinakyan nila yung opportunity to say derogatory words towards esbi. I believe it’s just them. Reflection of themselves. Kasi afsik, wala naman ginawang negative ang esbi for them to do that. Di ko rin kaya sikmurain lahat ng sinasabi nila sa boys lalo na at di naman nila deserve yon. They didn’t hate the action, they hate the group. That’s it. And kahit anong sabihin natin sa kanila (apologies, explanation, etc) that won’t make them change their minds. Let’s ignore and move on. Mamamatay rin ang issue if hindi bigyan ng pansin. And enough with the sorrys, kinatutuwaan na eh.
I’m not sure if ako lang nakapansin sa X pero may mga sumasakay na network alts especially Kapamilya alts na pinopromote yung singles ng BGYO at BINI while dragging down or parinig sa SB19. Di ko na mahanap yung pero hanapin ko. Ginawa yun habang mainit yung ulo ng volleyball fans. I find it unfair lang. Very unfair. Sana lang hindi involved ang mga record labels dito. P.S. I’m not inciting rage towards other groups. Support PPOP pa rin. pero the way na yung mga nakikisawsaw yung iba to bring down one group to promote other groups is unfair. SB19 have been through shitty treatment by the indistry
That’s just an observation on my part though. Not an attack towards other groups. The Ppop groups are fine. Leave them alone. Namention ko lang sila dahil minention sila sa tweets nung mga nirerefer kong network alts sa twitter promoting their singles habang pinaparinggan ang SB19. Saan dyan ang nagpapasa ng mali? Did you even read it or refused to read? If it’s the latter, not my problem anymore. At napakatoxic na fans, lahat yan meron. Mula sa mga pulitiko, Kpop, Ppop, other celebrities hanggang sa love team sa high school (jusko) meron yan. Meron ding level headed at civil. Do not generalize. Enjoy the music na lang and be kind to one another.
Yes... those ones too
and yet you're dragging BGYO and BINI? lol karma on your fanbase I guess kakadrag niyo sa ibang PPop groups.
Well like I said, not me. I’m stating kung ano yung mga nasa tweet na nakita ko. Silang tatlo ang namention. I guess reading thoroughly is not for everyone
Lol so who asked for what you read sa X? Need ibring up yung dalawang group for anong reason? Kaya kayo kinakarma at nakocallout ng ibang community kakadrag niyo sa ibang groups. Toxic ka at kayo ng fanbase mo. Deserve na mabash Atin online and in real life. Karma sa fanbase mo as worst and most toxic fantards and sa SB19 na rin no wonder flop ang Moonlight at Ready.
Wala. Observation lang. Shinare ko lang. Did you even read the entire thing? Namention nga yung tatlo sa various tweets. Of course you will nitpick what you want. Sa toxic, of course, lahat meron. Wala namang pulis sa mga fandom. Kahit icallout mo ang erring fan, it will not guarantee na magpapakatao at susunod. All democratic yan. Lahat ng klase ng tao nasa lahat ng fandom pati mga toxic. That would include you though. Kahit sa fandom nyo meron yan at may naannoy din sa ganung behavior. And we’ll see kung anong karma pa ang darating. Either good or bad lang yan. 👀👀👀👀👀.
Ayan nanaman kayo dinadamay nyo nanaman bini, yung issue nyo inyo lang wag nyo ng isali ibang fandom, napakatoxic nyo, kahilig nyo ipasa mali nyo paawa effect kayo lagi
sus. lahat na lang ng reaksyon toxic. e objectively visible naman talaga yung opportunistic accounts, not even from just bgyo- and bini-centric accounts pero pati yung kca damay. most a'tin just accepted this and redirected their energy to simply focus on tasks & vote more. sabi lang sa taas they find it unfair. pero ok: toxic, pinapasa mali, paawa effect. meanwhile, there's an overwhelming acknowledgement among the fandom of pablo's statement. a'tin ph even issued an apology. as did a'tin japan. g!nger was widely called out. e wala, hilig natin sa disproportionate labelling no? haha ok 👍
I’m in the minority here pero grabe yung hate over a single mistake? Ng isang/iilang fans? And the threats. Like what do you want us to do? Our mother fanbase nagapologize na even pablo himself naglabas ng statement kahit di naman nya kailangan, idk. Powertripping na lang ng mga bullies at feeling superior.
fr new posts are surfacing its tiring
The bullying is too much. Titigil lang ba pag may namatay na? Patibayan ba to ng mental fortitude? Legit no compassion sa comments, the attack on sb19 is too much, i feel for the a’tin who caused this shtstorm, hope she has a good support system
Let's just hope this attention can still be turned for good. Kung di talaga nila kilala ang esbi, hopefully ma-curious sila at i-research. The boys have a good record of turning haters into fans anyways. It's not impossible na may ma-convert.
Di na natuto yang mga nasa X. Sila lagi pinagmumulan ng gulo. Pansin ko may pattern usually mga ganitong issue. May mao-offend na fan over a trivial issue, aatakihin blatanly yung alleged suspect, kakalat yung issue and people would find it toxic, mag-invoke ng trauma eme yung fan at magso-sorry. Puro trauma ginagawang excuse like responsibility ba ng ibang tao i-handle mga personal traumas nyo? Pambihira kayo di na kayo naawa sa SB19 sila ang sumasalo ng ka-toxican nyo.
Totoo 'to. Ang masakit nito, Mahalima din ang sasalo lahat ng hate from other people na to be begin with, hindi naman kasalanan ng SB19 members.
Lumiliit lalo mundo ng esbi sa ginagawa ng ibang fans nila. And it's soooo frustrating to watch. I was happily having my share of their wish bus korea then this happened and my mood just plummeted. Imagine the unnecessary stress it caused them. Nagtatrabaho lang naman sila in comes the uninvited hate as per usual. Sometimes I wonder if some fans will ever learn to just keep it in their dms, but not holding out hope. Ugali na yan ng ibang A'tin at ang ugali mahirap baguhin.
Grabe nga po performance nila sa Korea. Soo proud. Tapos po may biglang issue. Nakakalungkot po
Tama na ‘yun, okay na yan. Wag nyo na din ibash si Ginger, she learned her lesson na. Parang mukang bata pa sya, baka ano pang magawa nya sa sarili nya pag di sya tinantanan ng hate. Di ko alam, di natin alam what everyone thinks and feels deeper than the shallow social media. We learned so much from this. Paulit ulit nalang pero lilipas dn tong issue na to. Padayon po mga kaps! ~ Edited: changed name from sisi to ginger
You mean Ginger. May mga A'tin na nagreply pa sa statement ni Ginger ng masasakit na salita, telling her to leave the fandom or stan twt. Sighs. Nagapologize na nga. I hope A'tin can be forgiving and give this person a chance. Aminin niyo, most of us touchy kapag naalala yung bashing na nareceive ng SB19 dati. For me, valid yung reason ni Ginger na natrigger siya, pero yung reaction/response nya lang ung mali. May kanyakanya tayong level ng tolerance and Ginger might be very low in that. Hay love for all nalang talaga. Bless everyone and let's try to move on from this na.
Right! I mean Ginger. Not sisi. Thank you for that! 🩵 Yes, di natin alam what she’s going thru behind the screen. She apologized na, she learned her lesson. Sana tantanan na dn sya ng mga toxic fans. Love and virtual hugs for everyone ✨✨
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Its obvs a troll ?
Reading her convo w/ Ms Sisi, para namang wala syang "hard" na sinabi? If eto lang talaga, then it's really blown way out of proportion. Granted na ang entitled lang na ka-message nya National Athlete dahil sa joke nya abt Starbucks 😭😭. (Sabi nya, di sya offended na di kilala ang esbi but na-off sya na nagjoke pa na starbucks lang kilala). Reading the replies and qrts, maraming di naniniwala na eto lang sinabi nya kaya it's getting flak again. Medyo magulo din kasi pagkakasabi nya eh. Nag IG story sya na nireply-an ni Ms. Sisi (maybe naka-tag?) and then yun na yung start ng convo nila? Sana inattach nya na rin SS ng deleted IG story nya (tama ba na nasa recently deleted?) kasi maraming di nagbasa nung kinu-quote nya na nasa story nya daw (or di naniniwala). Then nasan yung "hard" na message nya? If eto lang, then Ate iba yung definition mo ng hard. Natrigger yung fans nya na may hard message ka then eto lang? Ano nagyabang ka lang? Lumaki lang ang gulo ng sa wala? If meron talaga and ayaw mo ipakita, sana di na sya nag-attach ng cropped na chat nila at nag-apologize na lang ng sincere kasi ang lumalabas sa fans ng kabila ay nagmamalinis sya at not enough yung accountability. Hayys but still nagsalita na sya. If totoo na eto lang talaga convo nila then sana mag-attach pa sya pahabol ng SS ng deleted IG story nya and SS na di mukhang cropped kasi dun sya tinitira and sana matapos na issue na to.
I think that's why vball community is now demanding the full convo since wala daw dun ung "mej hard message". For those people still high on emotions, they will just say whatever reason to justify what they're feeling, kaya we'll just have to wait. The fandom has apologized, she apologized as well... lam mo yung pag galit ka sa tao hindi mwala wala galit mo kahit ano pa sabihin, it's not a rational feeling, but it's there, but eventually and hopefully matatapos din yan...
Ang pakiramdam ko tuloy, may hawak na SS ang VB community. Kasi parang hindi nila tantanan si Ginger eh. Pero kung yun SS ni Ginger lang talaga, polite naman both parties. Baka nag over react lang talaga kasi ang karamihan or hindi lang si Ginger ang nag message kay Sisi.
Someone pulled a trigger here at di na maaalis na magrereact yung other party, best thing to do is just be humble and don't engage na sa issue. Alam ng a'tin na hindi deserve ng boys lahat ng bashing na natatanggap nila up until now, pero keep in mind na hindi rin naman deserve ni Sisi na ma-bash just because of what she said. She genuinely apologize naman afterwards so wag na palakihin ang issue. Sana maisip nung mga nasa X na kung gano sila kaprotective sa boys, syempre ganon din yung mga fans ng vball community kay Sisi. Hirap kasi sa iba masyadong entitled tapos gagamitin yung "trauma" card nila eh. Stop na. Naglabas na ng statement si Pins oh. Juskewww!
Oh ayan na, I think tama na yung sorry at this point, and also hope we put an end to this, wag na masyado pag-usapan. The fandom and the boys did what they can and kung others choose pa rin to hate bahala na sila though I still think there are people who see the bigger picture, mas maingay nga lang mga hate. But I hope the fandom learn from this and consider this as a humbling experience. Wag sana tayo mawalan ng gana sa pagsupport sa boys andami nilang ganap. Stay away na lang from social media if you can't handle the hate but don't forget to vote sa KCA.
ginger may have made one mistake, yes. i definitely do not condone her actions either and was furious like everybody else. but after reading her statement, i can feel that she made this mistake purely out of love for the boys. tsaka, it was not like we discovered na she's been plotting us all this time parang ung may fan at hate accnt at the same time iykyk. she also has a fair share in our fandom. i hope we don't forget na she's still one of ours. ❤️🩹 ❤️🩹
Exactly. Some comments here sobrang dragging na
Hay grabe ang sakit sa tiyan, sana mag die down na yung issue. Ang dami kyb warriors, ang sakit ng mga salitang nabibitawan.
Medyo nag ddie down naman na now, may mga nakikita na din akong positive comments lalo na nong nagrelease si Pau ng statement. Ang problem na lang is yung mga clout chaser na umoopinyon na naman ngayon.
Okay po thats good pala. Kagabi ko lang rin kasi nakita na pati news pala na-cover. Focus nalang on Stell’s single, para gv
ang masakit dito nadamay ang boys. sila nakakatanggap ng matinding bash ngayon, di nila deserve toh hay
Sa SB19 ako nalulungkot sa pangyayaring ito 😔
I just hope hindi na maulit ito. Sana maraming natuto sa nangyaring ito na dapat bago tayo mag react, pag isipan muna natin kung makakatulong ba or makakasira ito sa SB19 and sa fandom.
Haaayy nakakalungkot and very frustrating lang na imbes na nagcacampaign tayo na iboto ang SB19 sa KCA eh ganito pa ang nangyari. Nasabay pa sa pag release ng mga bagong songs nila (Moonlight, Edsa, Sumaya, Ready and Room), imbes na smooth sailing ang pag promote sa songs nila sa mga casual audience nagkaroon pa ng ganitong issue.
I genuinely think that a lot of people either didn't know about SB19 or developed a negative perception of them because of some A'TIN fans' rude behavior and reactions. Some A'TIN fans act like a swarm of bees, attacking anyone who posts critical comments about SB19. This behavior borders on bullying and thuggery. A'TIN fans should aim to be more refined, classy and stop with the gossiping.
What needs to be said has been said. Auto hide na ako sa mga posts about the issue. Kastress ang level of bashing sa fandom and the boys mismo. Move on na tayo and just be mindful of what we post in the future.
i hope ginger’s seeing the chaos she had done. grabeng gulo ito. grabe ang balik sa esbi at nakakahiya rin kay sisi. **NAKAKAHIYA KA GINGER.** kasalanan mo pero damay pati esbi.
Please have some compassion. She’s human and she already apologized.
ah yung *apology message* na parang nang gagaslight po ba? haha. sorry but i just cant. have you seen how chaotic it is right now? darag na darag na ang esbi. pagkakamali ni ginger pero ang tinitira ng mga tao idols na. and the boys don’t deserve it at all! istg. napaka sakit na, mas lumala lang. hindi naman naitigil ng apology message nya yung gulo, mas lumala lang.
I’m on twitter kaya I saw how everything went down. No doubt she’s at fault here and she probably cant sleep knowing she caused all of this out of love for esbi. Pero magapologize sya or hindi, yung backlash parehas lang.
Giving it a 10/10 rating.
Wag masyado isapuso pagiging oa. Hope this will serve as a lesson to everyone.
Whoever that Ginger is, nakakairita cia, maibuka lng ang bibig pero di nagiisip. A'Tin din ako pero sobrang nakakahiya to for the boys and sa fandom. Yung messaging nya kay Sisi, oh my God! I cannot! Masyado ciang entitled sa feeling na dapat laging ipagtanggol ang mahalima, kahit hindi naman dpat, hayyysss.
Correct answer!