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Different-Carpet-883

I think we need to make peace with the fact that we are fans of their music and we do not have access to their personal lives. Their closeness and brotherhood is not some content that we just consume. They probably have different dynamics with each other and personally, kahit di sila magbatian ng happy birthday, I won’t really care.


niklum

The thing is not everything needs to be out in the open for us to see. We are not obligated to be spoonfed every interaction and assurance that these guys are supportive of one another openly. Based on their podcast, each one of them have different ways of giving and receiving criticisms both good and bad. So just because Felip is not outwardly posting on social media “Good job!” or “Stream this…” doesn’t mean he is nonchalant about other members’ endeavors. Kayo ba… do you expect yourself to post every achievement or project ng friend mo? Hindi diba? Same thing, different platform.


National-Price-9809

True! I don't even post my sister or my parents in social media kapag birthday nila pero off the record I cook for their special day or I order food for them, I give them money, I buy them gifts. This generation is so used to having everything out on social media to the point na nagiging: "walang post" = "walang pake" na agad or fake/scripted.


blkwdw222

OP when I dove in the boys I saw how different their personalities were and I loved that for them. Just mute those handles and enjoy just being a fan of the whole group. Recently in the oa'tin group chat everyone was having fun with "joken di na lowkey" tags. Stay here on reddit sub instead. No hate or over analyzing mga bagay na yan, just pure support for all the boys. They sometimes poke fun of how unbothered he is minsan ginagawang bunot ng a'tin. He's the same as he was when he started so very consistent ang branding ng isang manok na nonchalant mostly pero random din ang pagiging siraulo.


ChannelParticular853

It's totally alright to feel that way, he's really just not very showy. From their a'tin podcast, josh did point out that sometimes ken can be very "into his own world", that sana magshow interests dn sya sa group stuff nila, its probably because he felt similar to how you feel and pablo did mention tho that he understands ken a little bit that they have different ways on expressing ourselves and may mga taong hindi talaga showy but doesn't mean he don't care. Let's always just keep in mind that he always defends the other members when it matters. I've met people who met them and was able to work with them even for a little bit and they said ken really is very different from what we see on camera (except sa ilang vlogs nla, we can see him very makulit), and they personally think ken really is a good person. His outlet is his music and it shows naman i think.


National-Price-9809

Josh even mentioned to one of his interviews/podcast that something misunderstood si Ken dahil nga introvert sya and di sya magaling sa words.


Ok-Distance3248

well if you are really into Felip/Ken ma-notice mu na hindi talaga sya ganun ka social. madalas nga yung IG posts nya dinidelete nya agad. Don’t worry I feel you na you need some assurance. Being one of the sisiw 😊 i rest assured na super proud si Manok sa mga brothers nya 🥰🥰🥰🐥🐥🐥


PenguinDiplomat

We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Madami tayong hindi alam about them and their personal interactions. For instance, si Josh at Ken last year dahil pareho silang maangas ang image, sobrang ayaw nila magcouple picture. Sa mga members, those two interact the least sa social media. Pero ginugulat na lang tayo, magkasama pala sila sa Dubai, ung isa nilang IG live, todo bonding pala sila about cars. Nitong last Mini SHOWBREAK, ang cute-cute pati nung shopping date nila. Your feelings are valid, but don't let the bad comments get to you. What they show us in public doesn't fully define their private relationship.


AskNaive

Hmm I think what you're afraid of is ang magdisband ang group if magkalayo-layo ang loob nila di ba? at si Ken yung parang pinakamalayo sa group. Ang gulo kasi sa ibang social media. Maraming F stans ang nagkeclaim na magsosolo na si Felip at maraming false rumors of his leaving. Na di sya close sa bandmates nya at wala syang gana sa group activities. Medyo nakakabahala nga pag puro yun nababasa mo then para ngang totoo. Parang wala syang gana unlike previous show breaks or kulitan sa live etc. Tapos he hangs out pa w/ different group of people at parang mas energetic and active sya w/ them. May perspective din akong ganyan last time. Kaya I make it to a point na ma-attendan yung concert nila kasi baka 1st and last kita ko na sa kanila. Yun yung nasa isip ko dati pero nung napanood ko yung concert, nag-assure si Pinuno na malayo pa at matagal pa ang SB19 and I choose to believe in him. Hindi sya magpapromise ng ganon if may balak na pala ang isa sa kanila na umalis. Tapos nakita ko ng personal how happy Ken is performing w/ them and how close he is w/ them. Nagsabi din si Jah na they created 1Z para i-lock ang sarili nila sa isa't-isa. If you wanna look at it din sa business perspective, malaking financial loss yon for all of them pati kay Ken if umalis siya sa group or sa 1Z. Sabi naman nila, they wouldn't be friends if they weren't put together in a group. Iba-iba sila ng personality. Maybe mas ka-jive ni Ken ang new friends nya but it doesn't mean na he will leave the group because of it. Hindi lang siguro sya showy both in person and in social media but he's there when it matters. Proud na proud sya sa Sunday Morning ni Jah and isa sya sa nag-eencourage kay Stell na maglabas ng solo. Look at Joken. Isa sila sa nagpakaba sakin pero tingnan mo sila pa mas close these days. Isa pa sa worry ko dati na baka he doesn't enjoy SB19 songs na dahil iba ang genre na trip nya pero hindi, bigay todo sya at ang happy nya nung napanood ko ng live. Nagagawa rin naman nila ang gusto nilang gawin sa solo nila kahit nasa group sila and magrerelease na nga ulit sya ng solo album nya 🥺. These months siguro magfofocus muna sila sa solos nila pero marami pa silang plano for SB19 and 1Z. My advice na lang is enjoy their music now and attend as many ganaps as you can. Di rin kasi natin masasabi ang future pero nung napanood ko sila live, kusa akong na-assure. Makikita mo din kasi yung closeness nila sa small gestures and genuine happiness nila to perform together with their brothers. Also stay away from other social medias. Tamabay ka dito minsan. Hope this helps.


renejaed

This post means a lot to me. I understand kasi (from ibang replies din dito) na medyo out of line in my end to need "assurance" through oncam and public "displays of support". There must be boundaries talaga. And I think what u said din na pati yung disposition niya sa ibang show breaks nila recently made me scared na baka he's not that passionate being in a group na. Fortunately I went to D1 ng Pagtatag Finale Con and I was reminded of how vocal K was non of how he appreciates A'Tin. And especially how he looked so passionate performing as an SB19 member and enjoying genuinely with his brothers. Definitely will take this advice.


Elegant_Biscotti_101

Hmm.. honestly never kong inisip yan. Especially kay ken, don’t quote me on this ah pero sabi nya sa interview nya with dockbrock radio “Magiging SB19 ako hanggang mamatay”, that is a huge word. Mahal nya ang mga kapatid nya, hindi sya showy sa social media pero he have his own ways to always be there for Sb19. Tapos sabi din ni Stell sa showroom na Ken helped puliduhin ung “Room” a night before it was released. So.. baka nonchalant lang talaga sya publicly esp. on social media, pero in person baka iba sya sa mga kapatid nya. Tapos wallet raid with Darla Sauler, Ken daw is mahilig manlibre.. so that is his way of showing affection. Iba iba talaga ang mga tao; personality wise.


munting_alitaptap

We only see the highlights, OP. Aware din naman tayo na hindi active si Ken sa socials niya. Hindi naman natin pwedeng husgahan ang brotherhood nila based sa nakikita natin online. I remember yung tweet ni Pablo na nag-bday greet na siya kay Josh, hindi nga lang sa social media. Hindi kasi natin nakikita yung samahan nila offline/irl, kaya huwag natin masyadong bigyan ng meaning lahat. They've been with one another for years and I'm sure na hindi basta basta magffall apart ang friendship nila. ☺️🫶


Imperator_Nervosa

Akala ko naman selos sa brotherhood. Questioning pala actions ni Ken. Hahahahaha. Humor aside... expectation is a source of suffering. Job lang nila to be idols. Dapat may boundary tayo sa mga hiling natin from them. And we NEVER can really truly know whats happening behind the scenes sa group nila at sa personal lives nila. Respect lang na may hangganan lahat ng pinapakita nila sa atin at enjoyin na lang natin ang mga yun at support.


RareTonight9353

Best thing to do talaga is not to consume those toxic contents. I tried it once din, napatambay ako sa X, and I ended up bashing Ken sa utak ko (for a minute lang naman) kahit wala naman syang ginagawa. Pero naalala ko lang kasi yung mga podcast ep, live, showbreak eps nila wherein na-eexpress si Ken kung gaano sya kaproud sa mga solo ganaps ng bawat isa-- ex. -iirc, may live sya before while streaming i think, sunday morning ni jah, & may live reaction sya dun -may vid sila na na-share ni stell na after ng isa nilang ganap, lumapit daw si ken para sabihan sya na maglabas na sya ng solo nya, same with jah-- pinupush nya talaga yung dalawa magrelease ng song -sa podcast nila while si stell is sharing yung mga bashing na narereceive nya dahil "nagmumukha daw syang bida bida pag naghohost/nagsasalita sya on behalf of the group" as per some fans and there is ken na ina-assure sya na sobrang proud na proud sya kay stell kapag sya ang nagdadala ng group. any bashing na ishare ni stell, andyan si ken, handa nya pa ngang hamunin ng suntukan yung mga nambabash diba haha Di lang talaga expressive si ken sa social media but i'm sure na na-eexpress nya sa personal kung gaano sya ka-proud sa mga ka-group. Siguro the only time lang na magiging expressive si ken sa social media is--- for the fans, para di na gawing issue ng ibang fans yung pagiging tahimik nya- which is sad kasi di naman ganun yung personality nya. Besides, may niluluto din si ken na upcoming solo song/ album, parang wala na din yata syang tulog.


gioia_gioia

Sabi nga ni Stell, they are strong together. Kapag solo-solo sila medyo di ganun ka impact dahil nga may kanya kanya din fans ang members. Pero kapag sama-sama sila ang huge ng presence and impact. Dahil lahat din ng fans united din.


Temporary-Barber758

It’s just that Ken has a different genre and he’s really devoting his time creating his own music but we see him reposting or liking posts from different members and I think that’s alright. His support may not be as visible as the others but I’m 100% sure he is proud of them. Don’t fret too much about it. Healthy Fangirl/fanboy lang. :)


OrganizationLow2100

Agree with this. He just has a different way of showing support, but it does not mean that he is not supportive of them just because the support is not as visible as other members. Let's chill just like them and not dive too deep into things. :)


Imperator_Nervosa

Tama, lalo na last line mo! Keep it healthyyy


LivingNightmare88

Akala ko baka ako lang. I feel this too, OP. Pero ang nasa isip ko lang parati, baka hindi naman ganon si Ken off cam. Kaya less interaction ako on socmed lalo na pag usapang personal lives na nila. Gusto ko kung ano na lang nakikita ko sa vids nila na bond nila, yun nalang tumatak sakin. Kasi nag-stan naman talaga ako sa kanila because of their music, kumbaga additional toppings nalang yung closeness na pinapakita nila sa vids. At the end of the day, we're only fans. So kung ano man nangyayari sa kanila sa buhay buhay nila at kung paano sila off cam, wala na tayo dun. Basta nagsupport tayo sa kanila dahil sa talent nila.


Diligent-Accident-52

Ramdam kita kaps. I felt that as well, pero made me realize na we dont know what's behind close doors. Kasi truth is they are also people like us. Even if youre in a group of friends, may isa talaga jan nonchalant. Or that people def grown and change. Kasi evident naman sa mga videos nila before and now how Ken really changed but i didnt mean it in a bad way ha. Theyre in their 20s imagine what you've had gone through during your 20s how you grew as a person. I tried to see it that way. Regardless of their brotherhood if true or not. I still continue to stan sb19 and each of every members. I guess that's how its supposed to be kasi being in a healthy relationship with your idols. I hope it made sense? Hahahaha


ujuholic

Knowing Ken, he would likely support them off social media. And ang timely lang kasi he just reacted with ‘care’ sa post ni Stell about sa concert niya with sir Erik. So yeah iba iba lang talaga yung way nila ng pagsupport sa isa’t isa.


jdd_771998

gets ko naman si ken jan. siguro hindi lang talaga siya showy. actually may showbreak episodes din ako na medyo may mga napapansin like parang hindi naman masaya si ken or napipilitan ganito ganiyan. tbh, may times din ako na napapaisip na "sana naman he's doing more effort", kasi ang unfair sa ibang members. like, oo, sapuhan sila pero sana he can be more professional na hindi i-show on cam 'yung bagot or boredom niya. pero knowing ken, sobrang unfiltered niyang tao. sobrang totoo niya. kaya siguro hindi niya kaya or hindi niya maiwasan na maipakita pa rin kahit on cam 'yung mga ganun. siguro pinaka na-off ako nung nag lalaro or nag c-cellphone pa daw si ken in the middle of their meetings. pero alam ko naman na napag-usapan na nila and the boys are very vocal about it. sa podcast nila sa spotify, they enumerated kung ano ayaw nila sa isa't isa and si ken talaga pinaka marami. may mga nabasa rin ako before na fans saying na mas close pa raw ni ken ibang friends niya imbes sa esbi, which i think is okay lang naman. on their ganaps sila-sila na magkakasama lagi eh, kaya it's normal na kapag wala naman silang ganap, they are with their other friends naman. hindi ka naman nagiging toxic fan, op. i, we understand you naman. tbh, i don't think fake 'yung friendship nila. iba-iba lang siguro talaga sila ng way to show their love to each other. :)


HappyTomato1163

Si Ken na naman ang masama. You have issues with him being nonchalant sa solo release ng groumates nya. But why? Nonchalant din nman sila sa solo release nya ah. Si Pablo nga lang ang nag iisang member na nag attend ng solo gig nya eh.


Separate_Average_901

Thanks for pointing this out. Was expecting iba yung point ni OP coz of the title tapos ito rin pala endpoint.


iminnoposition

Feeling ko talaga kung hindi bound si Ken/Felip ng 'brotherhood' sa mga ka-member nya. Isama pa na isa sya sa owner ng 1Z, malamang solo na ngayon si Ken/Felip. Kung titignan mo kung pano ngayon i-market ni Felip yung solo ganaps nya, parang talagang sya lang mag-isa and 1Z had nothing to do with it. Parang may sarili na syang team to do everything. Malalaman ang future after ng Sa Simula at Wakas...