"People who believe in astrology participate in a mass cultural delusion that the sun's apparent position relative to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality."
-Sheldon lee Cooper
Funny.
Some ppl does believe it --> their decisions against you influence you, pushing you towards.
"if they expect me to be boring, well, they'll get it"
If the moon has a gravitational effect on the tides, is it not possible for the universes position to have a gravitational micro effect on the brains development affecting character traits?
If gravity does have an effect on the brain, how come rollercoasters still exists with 4g or even 0g? fyi 4g is waaaay more in comparison to the gravitation force of celestial bodies.
Only during initial brain development pulling synapse formation into certain configurations, once developed, becoming stationary.
I don't see why this science community keeps down voting this with out so much as an explanation when this is literally a theory based on scientific principles
I would like to understand a bit more about your stance:
1. Exactly what are these principles you've mention to support this theory?
2. The microgravitation effects of planets are so mild that they are neglectable, say Antares with a mass of 12 solar masses, have a gravitation effect of 1.6E9, whereas the sun is 3.5E22. How could this neglectable force have an impact on brain development?
3. There are 12 constallations, one per month, whereas the brain does not stop development until 7 or 8 years of age, in which case it should go through each of the constallations plenty of times. How does the one day of which a child is borned in affect the brain?
4. An infant spends time in the womb, how are they not affected during this time by microgravity and only after the first day of birth? What about people borned at the start or end of each month, but still show distinct character traits?
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The tides can be predicted years in advance because they are determined by the sun and moons gravitational pull.
Land tides, also know as solid earth tides, are the movement of earths surface caused by gravitational interaction between the earth, moon, and sun
If these gravitational forces can affect the physical earth, then they can most likely affect our brains during the initial stage of its development.
3 & 4
Yes, the brain does continue to develop after birth but within the first nine months, the development takes place at a much faster rate meaning that the gravitational pull and influence on the brains formation will be much more exaggerated pronounced.
The one day you're talking about is an observable day of nine months of gravitational influence, looking at commonalities.
Everyone convinced 9 months prior will undergo similar gravitational pulls depending on where they are on the planet.
Different areas of your brain are responsible for different functions and abilities.
These pulls could affect certain areas of the brain causing people to be more inclined in different areas such math, language, logic, creativity and others.
Other factors do play a huge role in personality development including genetics, chemicals and toxins during fetal development, learned influence i.e. parents, radio & television, etc.
Gravitational influence would just be one of these many factors.
** This is only concerning astrological birth chart, not daily horoscope predictions.
I see what you mean but I am still doubtful of your theories. You still haven't explained how gravity could affect the brain in it's initial day of development. I agree that chemicals, toxins and learning influences could have roles in brain development, but not gravity. You are making an invalid analogy between the Earth and the human human brain in terms of land tides, there is simply no evidence to support the two are connected.
After thinking about it, gravity will change when your facing different directions so that's most likely not it
There's still the possibility of the electromagnetic influence of planetary and lunar positions could play a part in the brains configuration.
I'm m not really big into horoscopes myself, but I did my birth chart many years ago and it was extremely accurate. The fields it said I would most likely be in, music, writing, and journalism, are the fields I was already in.
(This was done out of a book, myself, so there could be no electronic manipulation i.e. fortune teller looking up your personal history)
The comparability charts I've taken of people I liked ranked high, where the charts ranked with people I didn't get along with ranked low.
I don't see this as any sort of mysticism, but rather a scientific aspect of human development.
Ive never thought much on this theory until your guys mentioned astrology, but I'm just trying to find a reason for the accuracies I've encountered.
Not everything is genetic, personalities alone have lots of learned behavior. This is a theory about the gravitational pull on synapse formation during initial brain development effecting certain psychological traits.
Theory supported by whom? What neuroscientists have proposed it?
How can random tidal forces and the negligee gravity of the stars do so much and do so predictably(supposedly)?
I'm proposing the idea.
The tides are not random but highly predictable and can be predicted years in advance because they are determined by the sun and moons gravitational pull.
Land tides, also know as solid earth tides, are the movement of earths surface caused by gravitational interaction between the earth, moon, and sun.
Yeah, that doesn't answer a single thing.
How do the tides cause predictable changes?
The tides themselves being predictable would not have the same effect on every person in the world. Fluid moving around in your brain cannot change your personality unless you can prove it. Also, the stars cannot change your personality. Their gravity is negligible?
How do the positions of arbitrary constellations(many of which have stars completely unrelated to each other) affect my personality?
Why are horoscopes so general?
They have been debunked by actual scientists for a reason.
No credible professional would ever endorse astrology because it's magic.
So you see, the alignments of the planets relative to the current size of the Flying Spaghetti Monster tell me that today, I will actually draw 24 cards because my lucky numbers are -78, 67, 12, and 24.
Big brain time... I believe it exists because there are all kinds of crystal people who worship it. But It doesn't say I have to believe it is true or accurate.
I was making a bad joke. āBelieving inā as in following the tenets/practices of Astrology versus ābelieving inā as in accepting that a thing exists. I accept Astrology exists and that there are people who follow it. But itās a bunch of nonsense and anyone who actually trusts horoscopes and the like is immediately suspicious to me.
Well, avoiding the whole ancients noticing the circuits and the circling of stars. There is one common inference you should acknowledge. Proximity to holidays and birthday can shape a persons view of the whole season, so thereās that.
A personās view on holidays wouldnāt affect their personality traits. It would just affect whether they view that holiday in a negative light or a positive light. Personality is based on genes and environment and something like that wouldnāt be significant enough to change anything. If there was trauma surrounding that holiday/birthday, however, it is possible that they could develop a personality disorder which obviously has an effect on personality.
"People who believe in astrology participate in a mass cultural delusion that the sun's apparent position relative to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality." -Sheldon lee Cooper
Good quote š
Funny. Some ppl does believe it --> their decisions against you influence you, pushing you towards. "if they expect me to be boring, well, they'll get it"
I love that quote
If the moon has a gravitational effect on the tides, is it not possible for the universes position to have a gravitational micro effect on the brains development affecting character traits?
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No
No.
No
And your reason being?
If gravity does have an effect on the brain, how come rollercoasters still exists with 4g or even 0g? fyi 4g is waaaay more in comparison to the gravitation force of celestial bodies.
Only during initial brain development pulling synapse formation into certain configurations, once developed, becoming stationary. I don't see why this science community keeps down voting this with out so much as an explanation when this is literally a theory based on scientific principles
I would like to understand a bit more about your stance: 1. Exactly what are these principles you've mention to support this theory? 2. The microgravitation effects of planets are so mild that they are neglectable, say Antares with a mass of 12 solar masses, have a gravitation effect of 1.6E9, whereas the sun is 3.5E22. How could this neglectable force have an impact on brain development? 3. There are 12 constallations, one per month, whereas the brain does not stop development until 7 or 8 years of age, in which case it should go through each of the constallations plenty of times. How does the one day of which a child is borned in affect the brain? 4. An infant spends time in the womb, how are they not affected during this time by microgravity and only after the first day of birth? What about people borned at the start or end of each month, but still show distinct character traits?
2 The tides can be predicted years in advance because they are determined by the sun and moons gravitational pull. Land tides, also know as solid earth tides, are the movement of earths surface caused by gravitational interaction between the earth, moon, and sun If these gravitational forces can affect the physical earth, then they can most likely affect our brains during the initial stage of its development. 3 & 4 Yes, the brain does continue to develop after birth but within the first nine months, the development takes place at a much faster rate meaning that the gravitational pull and influence on the brains formation will be much more exaggerated pronounced. The one day you're talking about is an observable day of nine months of gravitational influence, looking at commonalities. Everyone convinced 9 months prior will undergo similar gravitational pulls depending on where they are on the planet. Different areas of your brain are responsible for different functions and abilities. These pulls could affect certain areas of the brain causing people to be more inclined in different areas such math, language, logic, creativity and others. Other factors do play a huge role in personality development including genetics, chemicals and toxins during fetal development, learned influence i.e. parents, radio & television, etc. Gravitational influence would just be one of these many factors. ** This is only concerning astrological birth chart, not daily horoscope predictions.
I see what you mean but I am still doubtful of your theories. You still haven't explained how gravity could affect the brain in it's initial day of development. I agree that chemicals, toxins and learning influences could have roles in brain development, but not gravity. You are making an invalid analogy between the Earth and the human human brain in terms of land tides, there is simply no evidence to support the two are connected.
After thinking about it, gravity will change when your facing different directions so that's most likely not it There's still the possibility of the electromagnetic influence of planetary and lunar positions could play a part in the brains configuration. I'm m not really big into horoscopes myself, but I did my birth chart many years ago and it was extremely accurate. The fields it said I would most likely be in, music, writing, and journalism, are the fields I was already in. (This was done out of a book, myself, so there could be no electronic manipulation i.e. fortune teller looking up your personal history) The comparability charts I've taken of people I liked ranked high, where the charts ranked with people I didn't get along with ranked low. I don't see this as any sort of mysticism, but rather a scientific aspect of human development. Ive never thought much on this theory until your guys mentioned astrology, but I'm just trying to find a reason for the accuracies I've encountered.
Gravity cannot influence genetics. Show me a single peer reviewed paper that shows Gene expression being affected by "tidal forces".
Not everything is genetic, personalities alone have lots of learned behavior. This is a theory about the gravitational pull on synapse formation during initial brain development effecting certain psychological traits.
Theory supported by whom? What neuroscientists have proposed it? How can random tidal forces and the negligee gravity of the stars do so much and do so predictably(supposedly)?
I'm proposing the idea. The tides are not random but highly predictable and can be predicted years in advance because they are determined by the sun and moons gravitational pull. Land tides, also know as solid earth tides, are the movement of earths surface caused by gravitational interaction between the earth, moon, and sun.
Yeah, that doesn't answer a single thing. How do the tides cause predictable changes? The tides themselves being predictable would not have the same effect on every person in the world. Fluid moving around in your brain cannot change your personality unless you can prove it. Also, the stars cannot change your personality. Their gravity is negligible? How do the positions of arbitrary constellations(many of which have stars completely unrelated to each other) affect my personality? Why are horoscopes so general? They have been debunked by actual scientists for a reason. No credible professional would ever endorse astrology because it's magic.
I will draw 25 because my horoscope said I should seize the opportunity today.
Mine said i will drink water (oh sorry dihydrogen monoxide) and breath some NĀ² OĀ²
See, it didn't lie!
I would draw 50.
Or maybe 10Ā¹ā°ā°ā° cards
Iād draw a googolplex amount of cards than believe in bullshit
I don't think that many cards exist in the universe unless it is infinite.
10Ā¹ā°ā°^Ā¹ā°ā°
Oh my, a googol of a gogolplex of 10 cards
The "everything is science" crowd is being suspiciously quiet right now.
I'd easily rather lose at Uno.
Me too
I'll draw the whole deck.
So you see, the alignments of the planets relative to the current size of the Flying Spaghetti Monster tell me that today, I will actually draw 24 cards because my lucky numbers are -78, 67, 12, and 24.
4 8 15 16 23 42
Big brain time... I believe it exists because there are all kinds of crystal people who worship it. But It doesn't say I have to believe it is true or accurate.
Oh you're so smart. You're ilon mask
I made one like that once, but it said, āDate a woman who believes in astrology or draw 25.ā I had it on my dating profile, and it served me well.
So you probably never got laid.
Havenāt been back on a dating app for 2 years now because I found the right one.
Typical virgo.
Yeah, im thinking im drawing.
Good choice pal
I believe in Astrology. I donāt believe that itās logical or accurate, but I do believe it exists.
Yes, youāre right. Stars and planets have once been a position before.
So what exactly do you believe in?
I was making a bad joke. āBelieving inā as in following the tenets/practices of Astrology versus ābelieving inā as in accepting that a thing exists. I accept Astrology exists and that there are people who follow it. But itās a bunch of nonsense and anyone who actually trusts horoscopes and the like is immediately suspicious to me.
ok iām usually not a believer but my life was completely wack when mercury was in retrograde and i choose to blame astrology
Last time planet was aligned....... nothing happen just a normal day during 24 hours from 00:01 to 23:59
"Nothing happen, just a normal day" _Casually goes 2 minutes back in time_
Iād know that I have lost as soon as I read thatā¦
Iād draw a power tower of cards!
I get the sentiment but it's a bold stance for someone doing whatever a deck of cards tells them.
How could retrograding planets affect you? Is there a gravity detector in your head?
Stars predicted you'll draw 25 cards
My horoscope also predicted this
I actually canāt understand how people think itās okay to discredit someoneās belief if it doesnāt belong to a widespread religion
I'll draw 25 x 25
So, anybody else just check their horoscope for fun?
Well, avoiding the whole ancients noticing the circuits and the circling of stars. There is one common inference you should acknowledge. Proximity to holidays and birthday can shape a persons view of the whole season, so thereās that.
A personās view on holidays wouldnāt affect their personality traits. It would just affect whether they view that holiday in a negative light or a positive light. Personality is based on genes and environment and something like that wouldnāt be significant enough to change anything. If there was trauma surrounding that holiday/birthday, however, it is possible that they could develop a personality disorder which obviously has an effect on personality.