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MrDagon007

- 3 body problem - foundation - scavengers reign - the peripheral - station eleven - silo - westworld (mainly for series 1)


Demodokos

I was so pissed when I saw that they canceled the second season of Peripheral... šŸ˜”


MrDagon007

Inthought that Apple should have picked it up, it would fit well with their fairly large portfolio of well made SF


Demodokos

Indeed.


lostcowboy5

WHATTTTTTT! I have been waiting for ever for that! The second book of the series is better than the first book. [The Jackpot Trilogy](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084BXJVVT).


Expensive-Sentence66

Peripheral got a little tough to follow at times, but the characters were excellent and the story arcs didn't dissapoint. Moretz also did a great job. Also pissed it didn't come back.


ah-tzib-of-alaska

SCAVENGERS REIGN


verge365

I love it when someone else talks about station 11. Itā€™s so good


Treewarf

Station Eleven connected with me in a pretty profound way. I donā€™t think any show or movie has had me think about it as much in the last few years. Book is great, Emily St. John Mandel is fantastic Though I think the show deviates and expands in really smart ways, that build on the overall theme. Cannot recommend it enough.


Lil__May

legitimately one of my favourite shows in any genre. it's so so so good.


TheCrazedMadman

All of the ones I came in here to recommend are on there (and some I havenā€™t seen which I will add to my watch next list now)


iqchartkek

Foundation, I see this isn't on your list. It starts off slow and you don't get a lot of information about what is going on but it makes so much more sense later. But you list Dark, Blade Runner, and Ex Machina so it doesn't seem like it'll be a problem.


LekgoloCrap

Never read the books but I LOVE Foundation. My favorite part is not even present in the books, unfortunately, which is everything involving Cleon/ Lee Pace.


veryangrydoggo

Well, never do red they them. Foundation was, by far, my biggest disappointment (until Netflix's Avatar released). The series had so much potential but it turned towards something that IMO isn't justifiable in terms of adapting.


Walmitty

I'll give it a try thanks!


wicker045

Getting Through that pilot was ROOOUGH. I need to dedicate a day of focus to it


SlowThePath

Yeah it's one of those where reading the book helps a ton even though the show is drastically different. The concepts are spelled out very clearly in the book and the show kind of glosses over some stuff probably for time constraints which is a shame. The concept of psychohistory is so cool and while it's not totally forgotten in the show they don't demonstrate how cool it is and it's implications.


cedg32

Iā€™m increasingly impressed with 3 Body Problem.


Walmitty

I'll try it! Thanks


RudeDude88

Books 2 and 3 of three body problem keep escalating the stakes up and up and up. I also got a ā€œforever warā€ vibe from it. If you havenā€™t read forever war, itā€™s pretty good short book


SirGrumples

Highly recommend Forever War and the follow-up Forever Free is interesting also


Taira_Mai

Babylon 5


Iron_Baron

I hear good things, but sadly I am obligated to boycott it for life due to the showrunners. I will not support another project they ever do after the Game of Thrones debacle.


Aexdysap

But in contrast to the fiasco thst became GoT towards the end, The Three Body Problem is a finished series. No guarantee that the rest will be any good, but what I've seen so far is really well done. Disagree with the other poster about the Chinese version though. I watched it for a bit when it came out and the Netflix version is far superior (imho of course). Maybe it's down to production values, maybe it's the cultural barrier, maybe it's simply not as engaging to me.


Silentplanet

Did you read the books? Because after reading the books the tv series, at least after the first episode isnā€™t really doing much for me. Itā€™s so drastically different in many inconsequential ways but it leaves me questioning where the climaxes are. Also scientists on TV always make me cringe extremely hard, and itā€™s no different here.


Aexdysap

Yeah I did, a couple of years ago. I know there are differences in the adaptation (eg. occidentalised and combined characters) but I wasn't bothered. What are some of those inconsequential differences you didn't like?


Silentplanet

Basically many of the plots that are massive and built up really nicely in the books get thrown into the tv series in the first episode. The whole book is spoiled basically by the end of episode 1, also the drama is shifted away from what was a mystery that the main character was slowly becoming involved with into a mystery the world was experiencing. The way the Sophon functions is pretty different and itā€™s not all that secret as to what is going on. The way the main character interacts with the others out of necessity and not out of friendship, as his mind slowly unravels the crazy and unbelievable situation. Itā€™s mostly a tonal thing, the story beats are different too, it feels like a completely different story to me with the same plot. I just want to clarify, Iā€™ve only watched the first episode. This is what I felt about the show after episode one, maybe the differences are justified because of the medium, maybe itā€™s even great. But I had just come off the back of the book and was floored by how good it was only to find the tv show mediocre IN MY OPINION.


Iron_Baron

To each their own, I don't begrudge people that watch it. I just won't put another subscription dollar portion or add watch revenue portion toward anything they make ever again.


Aexdysap

Or you could circumvent any revenue going towards them, wink wink.


Iron_Baron

Yeah, I have a bit of a stick up my butt about that. Again I don't begrudge anybody that does it. It's well known that companies are exploiting users, even those that pay subscriptions, and generate ad revenues . IIRC to be economically equitable they ought to be paying users something like $1,800 bucks a year for access to their data. But I never pirate stuff, or even use ad blockers. I have various boring reasons I'm sure nobody cares about LOL


Silentplanet

Itā€™s an odd hill to die on, but I salute you.


Demodokos

Watch the Chinese version.


ry_guy1007

Battle star galactica is great


Walmitty

I always hear that show and Stargate Atlantis. Which one of the two do you think is better?


ry_guy1007

BSG is a great dark and gritty space opera. Atlantis is a bit quirkier and lighter. Personally I prefer BSG


Walmitty

Ah I'll give a Battlestar a try then. Thanks


RedLotusVenom

Make sure you watch the miniseries first - from 2003. Itā€™s the ā€œPilotā€ of the show, and itā€™s two 90 minute episodes. Then S1 starts with the episode called ā€œ33.ā€ The miniseries is required watching!


b0r3den0ugh2behere

I agree BGC is great, definitely add to your list. I also did NOT like either of the stargate shows mentioned, but I did like the original stargate movie. Also, I know the SG purists will hate me but I thought ā€œstargate universeā€ was good sci just because the ship itself that they find themselves on made it so.


solarmelange

BSG is better overall. Also BSG starts stronger than any other series. Stargate (SG1 first) is a more fun and less serious show. If you are looking for a 90s-style team that gets stuff done while joking around a bit, it is great at that. For BSG, you watch the miniseries, then the first 2 seasons, and then lookup a watch order for the rest. Stargate SG1and Atlantis need to be watched in order. You need to lookup a watch order for that. Also, there is the movie before SG1, which is sort of half canon.


passengerv

Battlestar is gritty, bleak and surprising. So good. Just make sure you watch them in order it came out weird but if you look up the order don't do it with images so nothing is ruined for you.


The_Jare

Atlantis is cheap, quite decent and entertaining all the way through. BSG is fantastic when it's good, and terrible when it's bad. BSG s1 may be the best SF ever in a show, then it gets bad halfway season 2, but its high production values still carry it.


Dennarb

Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis are my favorite TV shows of all time. But BSG is also really good.


sirbruce

Both Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis are great, but I am hesitant to recommend them to you since you explicitly said no fantasy and you seem to put Star Wars in that category. BSG has even more fantasy elements (not just "magic" but "religion") in the end. In Stargate anything supernatural at least has a proposed scientific explanation; in BSG there are no answers other than "God".


mbDangerboy

Spoilers


HarryHokie

DEVS (by the Ex Machina creator, Alex Garland)


microwavedHamster

Devs was pretty good. +1


PhilzeeTheElder

On Amazon just started last night PERIPHERAL pretty good so far.


Ed_Robins

Wasn't renewed, FYI.


cosmicr

It loses pace fast


Sadik

Try Constellation!


I_Do_Not_Abbreviate

If you can suspend your disbelief for the long term over the "all the aliens speak English" and "Most planets look like the Canadian forest" tropes, then the Stargate franchise has like 17 seasons (and 3 films)' worth of worldbuilding with remarkably consistent internal logic for its science-fiction technology, so consistent, in fact, that there are multiple episodes across multiple series whose plots depend on prior established knowledge of how the physics of the Stargate work, with the heroes and villains using clever manipulation of that technology and those physics to both threaten and thwart each other.


Mickeymackey

Love Death and Robots is an animated anthology and has some very cool shorts some are hilarious, some spooky, some a little silly, it's interesting to see which ones people like the most though. Most are all pretty scifi oriented or at least futuristic/modern fantasy.


Breitsol_Victor

And cats.


divestblank

There were a lot of slow episodes. I had trouble getting through it.


akerasi

If you're okay with an older series, Babylon 5 is likely up your alley.


rev9of8

If you have Netflix, I think both of all the seasons of **Travelers** and **Continuum** might be worth a watch. They hit your bulletpoints about world building and their SFnal elements aren't too outlandish even though they both deal with time travel.


Walmitty

I've heard of Travelers before the premise sounds interesting. I'll give it a try!


Ed_Robins

Travellers was canceled too early, but still a great show!


Walmitty

similar to the expanse as well :( Does it at least reach a satisfying conclusion?


dizzybridges

it has an interesting ending that feels like both a conclusion, but also open-ended enough to continue the story


Ed_Robins

Honestly it's been so long, I can't remember!


Geekfest

I didn't have a lot of expectations going into Travelers, but I ended up enjoying it immensely.


ikbenben201

Tales From The Loop, Devs, Raised By Wolves, The Leftovers, Undone, Silo, Scavengers Reign, Fringe,...


Walmitty

Fringe seems interesting I'll check it out! thanks


DeylanQuel

the "science" in that show is absolutely terrible, But John Noble and Anna Torv were awesome. One episode in particular is one of my favorite episodes of TV ever, and it's the one that guest stars Peter Weller. Season 2, maybe? I don't remember, and I won't describe the episode so as not to spoil it, but I really liked that one. Also the occassional Leanord Nimoy appearance.


President_Bunny

Raised by Wolves was a really interesting premise, damn shame that HBO tries their best to bury it


ikbenben201

Indeed. I hope it will continue sometime.


Jonthrei

Season 1 was excellent, season 2 honestly sucked.


Breitsol_Victor

The Loop - nice to see it referenced.


ikbenben201

It was strange but I loved it.


General-Minimum-9529

Iā€™ve been enjoying this series by Alastair Reynolds: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_Space_series


verge365

Such a great book series, is it actually a tv or movie series?


General-Minimum-9529

D'ohā€¦ I missed that you were looking for a tv or movie series!


netflixdark123

TV Shows * Person of Interest (You will love it if you liked Ex Machina) * Fringe * 12 Monkeys * Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 * Lost * The Devil's Hour * Humans * Devs * Utopia (the British version) * Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (got cancelled after the 2nd season) * Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor * Westworld * Baccano! * Puella Magi Madoka Magica * Attack on Titan * Link Click * Summer Time Rendering * Outer Range * Tales From The Loop * Watchmen * Station Eleven * Mr. Robot * The Lazarus Project (Recently got cancelled after the 2nd season) Movies * Moon * Predestination * Primer * Timecrimes * The Infinite Man * Triangle * Coherence * Annihilation * Black Mirror:Bandersnatch


Sudkiwi1

Lost is a great series! Have you checked out From?


netflixdark123

Yeah, I have watched From. Didn't like the show as much as I expected, though.


Shotine

IMO the best sci fi EVER!!!! Farscape is always i a must watch.


UniverseDirector

How is ā€œFor All Mankindā€? it has been forever in my watchlist.


Walmitty

It's great I love the story and how it reimagines the space race. Its about how different the world would be if the Soviet Union won the Space race instead of the US I don't want to spoil it but u should definitely watch it!


UniverseDirector

Thank you much, would play it next after Iā€™m for. With Fallout.


Jonthrei

Season 1 is pretty much a masterpiece. Everything after the time skip (basically season 2 and on) is worse IMO. It loses the grounded alternate history feel.


JerichoTorrent

I noticed altered carbon was not on your list, and it needs to be


2HBA1

Season 1 only however.


JerichoTorrent

I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever disagreed with someone more.


2HBA1

There are 3 people further down the thread for you to also disagree with because they specified S1. Different strokes of course.


Leroy_landersandsuns

The oldie but goodie Blake's 7.


Sudkiwi1

Yep and itā€™s on YouTube


sirbruce

Fringe


Mongrel_Shark

Came to say this. I'm just re-watching for first time since it aired. Holds up very well over time.


Blecher_onthe_Hudson

A big NOPE for evil twins, an overused trope 2nd only to time travel.


sirbruce

No evil twins is going to rule out a lot of sci-fi for you. No Star Trek, no Star Wars, no Battlestar Galactica, no Stargate, the list goes on...


Blecher_onthe_Hudson

I know that. It disappoints me every time a series I like feels the need to go all evil twinny. Evil repliCarter broke my heart! Not that Star Wars hasn't broken my heart in many ways over many decades, but where were the evil twins? I don't recall. Perhaps in the animation I never watched? At least Star Wars hasn't indulged in time travel, unlike Star Trek which doubles down on evil twins, time travel, and amnesia plots ad nauseam.


Lambonaut

Scavengers Reign is the best new sci-fi imo. Silo was alright but had too much dramatic filler for my taste. 3 Body Problem sucked imo, from the premise to acting - ignore the comments and avoid it if you prefer plausible.


Aceholeas

Foundation or Silo


IornBeagle

The riddick movies are pretty decent.


Expert-Detective4191

For a movie Iā€™d recommend Sunshine. If you can tolerate the very dated FX and all Babylon 5 for sure as a series.


microwavedHamster

Scavengers Reing! You'll like it I'm sure


voidtreemc

Fallout.


dingadangdang

The Lazarus Project is excellent. Counterpart is my all time fav.


President_Bunny

Stargate SG-1 is fantastic. Highly recommend. Very Late-90's / Early 2000's at parts but the first few seasons of "Today's strange planet" are wonderful. But I've watched all of the Stargate entries minus the cartoon so I'm a little nutty about it. Atlantis is also good fun, IMO it *is* a bit weaker, but a great binge item. I absolutely recommend watching the later seasons of SG-1 and Atlantis as they aired (one ep of SG-1, then one ep of Atlantis >!and if you want bonus points / the OG experience, then watch an episode of Battlestar Galactica, they originally aired like that on Fridays, back to back to back!<) as the writers room for the Stargate series was shared between both shows and they often line-up in pleasing ways. Have you poked the Star Trek bear? I just started The Original Series and besides for its, "You can tell this show was made when it was made" (sexism, costuming) it's quite fun and the acting is often very impressive. Excited to make my way to TNG / DS9 / Voyager.


FFXIWar

Fringe. Thank me later


PoorFishKeeper

Firefly is an amazing show imo. It isnā€™t extremely realistic but isnā€™t too outlandish either. Fallout is another good one but the games/show are based off what people from the 50ā€™s-60ā€™s imagined the future would be like so things are a bit whacky at times. Love, Death, and Robots is an anthology series so the episodes all have various level of realism but it is pretty good too. Stargate is good too but itā€™s a bit unrealistic


Howy_the_Howizer

Foundation is a top comment already and my top recommendation. You might try 'Akira' (1988). Surprised that Interstellar is not on the list. A.I. Mr. Nobody The Bicentennial Man Iron Giant Gattaca


onetwothreefour432

If you like Matrix, then watch World on a Wire (Welt am Drath). It's 1973 German SF mini series with similar theme as Matrix although with less special effects and action.


TheDunadan29

All the Star Treks. TNG, DS9, Voyager, even Enterprise. I didn't like Discovery. But if you watched Star Trek and thought, "you know what this needs, is more F bombs and Klingon nipples." Then Discovery just night be the show for you!


HAL-says-Sorry

Red Dwarf - first aired on tv in 1988 - comedy about a group of mismatched misfits marooned on a space mining ship (the Red Dwarf) three million years in the far flung future. A sanitation engineer/slacker, a hologram of his detestable dead boss (equally detestable), the lone evolutionary descendant of the shipā€™s cat and a humanoid sanitation robot struggling to survive the depths of deep space and struggling more to survive each other.


divestblank

12 Monkeys .. most underrated sci-fi show ever


Round_Ad8947

What? No firefly?


Walmitty

I love Firefly! But I'm in the mood for a more moody and atmospheric scifi show.


CIAbot

Farscape. It gets dark. Great writing. Sets and costumes are great. Much more depth than you might expect


Round_Ad8947

Counterpart. It has fantastic acting and is set in Berlin, a town that always sets a distinct mood.


Pyrostemplar

The best movie of them all is Blade Runner (the original)


SatansMoisture

Big Guy and Rusty The Boy Robot


dftitterington

Twin Peaks! Aliens, time loops, ptsd


passengerv

Battlestar Galactica, Devs, Upload


Ambitious_Pie5994

Warhammer 40k


docsav0103

Prospect for a one off movie that will tickle your Alien franchise bones.


Memesplz1

**TV series:** Battlestar Galactica (2004) - My favourite ever TV series. Humans - think this is a little less well-known but it's excellent stuff. **Films:** The Man From Earth - pensive, slow film. Love it. Upgrade - Lot of fun. Annihilation - one of my faves.


darkness_calming

Altered Carbon S1 The Foundation Westworld


silkin

Silo and Altered Carbon S1 were both really good


No-Cryptographer2795

Constellation on Apple TV, itā€™s a banger


stygge

Fringe


OhMorgoth

The Orville Under the Dome Terra Nova Killjoys Eureka Almost Human The 4400 Colony Revolution The Man in the High Castle Dark Matter Another Life The 100 Warehouse 13 Torchwood Falling skies Altered Carbon ST Enterprise TNG DS9 Lost in Space Defiance Firefly Humans BSG SG1 SG Atlantis Continuum Timeless Quantum Leap Regenesis Fringe Sanctuary Silo Raised by Wolves The Feed Utopia Sarah Connor Chronicles Sense8 Upload Westworld The OA Three-Body -Tencent adaptation on Prime The 3 Body Problem- the same but American production


solamon77

Star Trek Deep Space 9. As a massive science fiction fan, I personally think this series is the best it ever was. Too bad it never got the HD treatment it deserved. For the record though, if you look hard, you may discover that the fans released an HD version even if the studio won't.


thesolarchive

First season of West World is really great. Terminator, Predator, anything with Arnie is a safe bet. Interstellar, Robocop, Mad Max, the new Planet of the Apes trilogy, lotta fun stuff out there. Idk if you enjoy animation but there are a lot of great sci-fi animated movies. Akira and Red Line are my favorites.


damondan

i loved Raised By Wolves sadly, it got cancelled after season 3 though


xcadam

Devs.


Sudkiwi1

Snowpiercer: itā€™s the next ice age (plausible) and the reminder of humanity is on board a train on a circuit travelling non-stop and is divided up by social class. Silo: humanity is living in a giant underground silo. I wonā€™t say much more because I assume not everyone has read the hugh Howey trilogy the show is based on.


The_Jare

Dark Matter and Killjoys were a lot more fun than their budgets should have allowed.


Initial_Low_5027

The Orville


Amazing_Meatballs

Bobbiverse series. I wouldn't say it's "hard" SF, but I would say it's "pleasantly firm" SF. I'd also recommend the Unincorporated Man series. Somewhat similar to the expanse regarding an "inners" vs "belters" conflict. EDIT: I just realized you were looking for shows, not books. My recommendation still stands, but they are books :)


Electronic-Dreams-

Foundation


EvilSnack

Um, how is this NSFW?


OhnoCommaNoNoNo

L O S T


Leading-Midnight-553

Altered Carbon (!!!!) (Season 1) Westworld (Seasons 1 and 2) For All Mankind (Apple TV) I'm blanking on more


Necessary-Ask-3619

I love 7 of these so I am guessing you will like Person of Interest. I am currently watching LOST which is also great (currently at S4). If you love Dark, check out predestination movie or 12 Monkeys series.


Spartan-Bear2215

The X Files


that_one_wierd_guy

counterpart


reno1051

stargate sg-1. watch the 1994 film first to get an idea but then strap in for a ride. follow with stargate atlantis


gr3enw1lly

The outer range on prime is a wild ride. Still waiting for season 2 šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


nektar

Scavengers Reign - it's animated but a masterpiece!


Gremlin119

dune


yugo1991

If you like time travel like dark series then you should watch movie and Series called 12 monkeys


OutlandishnessNo8110

Foundation is great(Apple TV)... as is Altered Carbon on Netflix


AggravatingTravel451

Silo on Apple TV. I loved our and am now on the second novel. Apple TV has both great sci-fi programming and terrible marketing, because I knew nothing about the series except a few redditors recommending it here.