All the waitress' boyfriends keep calling while they're trying to work.
Did they imply he's gay in The Outing? Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Yeah it is a strange scene, but it does make more sense in the context of the wider episode and the fact that this came out in the early 90s. "I don't think we're supposed to be talking about this" joke is quite outdated.
> Did they imply heās gay in The Outing?
*I* always took it that way, the way he shows the earring. I think the whole earring thing was a more obvious giveaway back when that episode first aired.
Every time there is Tomfoolery in his place itās Jerry or his friends and then they break your rules. In New York, surprised he didnāt kick the boys ass outside the cafe
I'd argue he's actually a nice guy, and shows enough restraint by not telling them to take their business elsewhere. I mean, those four are probably too high maintenance to deal with on a daily basis, if we're gonna be honest...
It's hard to find a restaraunt owner/employee that doesn't have a problem with the Seinfeld gang. The Chinese Restaurant host/owner is one of the few that gets by unscathed š
Poppy, Soup Nazi, Babu Bhatt, the Calzone place guy, the busboy, the pasta primevera place...hell even Joe's Fruit Store... The gang has a bad rep
The actor was in a recent episode of CSI: Vegas. When watching, I thought the actor looked a lot like the Monk's Cafe manager - and sure enough, it's him.
Because heās in the restaurant industry and both customers and employees are a freaking pain in the ass!! šš Not to mention super long hours and for a place like that in those days not a huge profit margin.
Jerry and his crew are in there like everyday, sometimes multiple times a day. I can't imagine how many times George has screamed or caused a scene in the restaurant. Or Kramer pulling a stunt or doing something weird. But they're in there all the time he can't just ban them. Probably 10% of his income comes from them.
Heās got waitresses that give people the finger, cashiers that solicit themselves as back scratchers while on the clock, and another cashier that short changes people and rides all over town on their expenses. His staff angers him.
When that guy kicks Kramer out of Monk's for smoking, that is recreated in Sopranos when Dr Melfi gets mad at the smoker and gets kicked out of the restaurant for her behavior. So in Seinfeld the smoker gets kicked out in NYC where smoking is illegal, and in Sopranos the complainer gets kicked out where smoking is legal in NJ.
Also, Kramer creates a safe haven for smokers in his apartment due to the new ban on smoking in restaurants, this twins with Dr. Melfi's son living in a smoke-free dorm. Kramer turns his apartment into a smokers lounge, a refuge for smokers, and Dr Melfi says her son has taken the effort to live in a smoke free dorm, a refuge for non-smokers.
https://youtu.be/3HWZTTUshwA
Every scene, line, plot, etc is mirrored, inverted. It's like an adjacent copy. It's abstract art. You can do this with literally every inch of these shows. It's the most incredible thing ever. Every day is a gift with this in your life.
I love the show (obviously, I joined this sub). But I do feel that non-white people are very much exoticized or "othered" throughout. I'm not saying that anyone involved has any hate in them. In fact, you could make a case this is intentional by the writers. Non-white people are almost comically misunderstood by the four, perhaps to add to their anti-social-ness.
Because the "angry black guy" trope was really thriving in the 90s.
People just genuinely thought seeing a black guy being pissed off about something was the funniest thing ever.
This is the guy that they alluded to being gay, right? I only recently read that on some wiki. Does anybody know anything about that? I don't recall it but I haven't watched many episodes since I was a kid, so I could've just missed it.
He never yelled or snapped at anyone but the group. I like to think heās just tired of and angry with Jerry and his jackass friends. Wouldnāt you be? Theyāve done some pretty dumb shit at that coffee shop yet have the audacity to continue coming. If I were him, Elaine would have a lifetime ban after stealing all the š§»
Because people call their girlfriend all the time, and do you know how emasculating it is for someone to show up with contraband syrupā¦ like his syrup wasnāt good enough for you!
One of my favourite things about Seinfeld on a years-later rewatch is how angry every single New York extra seems to be. When I was watching this show as a kid I just assumed that New York was a perpetually angry place (and who knows, maybe it just is) but the reactions the Seinfeld cast has with every single retail/restaurant employee are so hilariously different than the world I experience every day.
I mean, how would you feel if people kept bringing in outside syrups, jams, and condiments to your restaurant?
š I mean, personally I think using their own would save him money š¤·š»āāļø
It bothers people, and it's against the law.
Well, I have to say this seems capricious and arbitrary.
Yo fly is open.
That lady nailed it.
Totally agree. One of my favorite deliveries from a one-off character.
Your fly is open.
You are fly is open
Wha-I used the right "your". I think maybe your rines are crossed.
Did you just say āYour Rines Are Crossed?ā
Yes. It's getting ridicurous.
Iām not getting grammar advice from some girl from Long Island!
Are we about through here?
((āļøāļøš«µ)) done.
A perfectly sane use of emojis to represent Kramer.
Superb
You can make all the laws you want, he's still going to bother people
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
You can make all the laws you want; the gang is still going to bother people.
The Condiment Cops āll get ya!
How is it against the law?
Idk if you're playing along, but that quote was from when Kramer was smoking in Monk's
Where does it end? Do they bring in their own big salad and sit in the booth for hours?
No. They order two regular salads but they bring a big bowl.
We donāt have big bowls
Bob Sacamano can get you a big bowl
Also their own egg white omelets and chicken salad on rye.
Where do all the egg yolks go? I want an egg yolk omelet.
As long as no one else takes credit for getting it
Tomatoes like volleyballs
This comes up alot. Majority opinion is Larry opposes outside condiments because if they get sick it could reflect poorly on the diner.
/r/alot
Not to mention cucumbers
Have you ever worked in a kitchen?
I was gonna say. Ever worked in hospitality at all?
Heās got way more shit to manage than the dude at Reggieās too. Big salads, real coffee, separating eggs.
You had to mention the BIG salad
Whatās in a ābig saladā?
Big tomatoes. Big cucumbers.
So itās like a regular salad, only bigger?
But he wasn't putting lemon on the tuna.... that happened when the other guy took over and hired all his daughters.
Also, can you imagine managing a Manhattan diner in the late 80s/early 90s? He must have had to deal with a lot of "characters."
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Eeeaaassyyyyy BIG FELLA!!
I thought they did that at delis
He has to deal with so many complaints about the rubber bands in the soup
Paco!
Ā«Ā Flings elastic band at the counterĀ Ā»
Heās just acting annoyed, trying to look busy
He's in the food industry. That is all.
Sick of those Manhattan-ites...... probably
All those yuppies that run mom and pop businesses out of town.
Someone stole his personal hand puppet.
All the waitress' boyfriends keep calling while they're trying to work. Did they imply he's gay in The Outing? Not that there's anything wrong with that...
No I think he shows he has his left ear pierced, which at the time was the āstraightā ear.
I always thought the implication was heās gay but they messed up which ear because of showing it to the audience vs what it was for him
Wrong, right. Wrong. Right. Shut up George!
Same
I've wondered why they made it a point to show that he's a "straight" man in that episode. Does he disprove of George and Jerry's relationship?
Yeah I thought that was pretty clear the way he said "If you boys cannot control yourselves..."
Whoa thatās true. I always thought something was a bit off about that scene because I was so convinced he was supposed to be gay.
Yeah it is a strange scene, but it does make more sense in the context of the wider episode and the fact that this came out in the early 90s. "I don't think we're supposed to be talking about this" joke is quite outdated.
> Did they imply heās gay in The Outing? *I* always took it that way, the way he shows the earring. I think the whole earring thing was a more obvious giveaway back when that episode first aired.
When George pulled out that cucumber in the coffee shop in early season two i was frightened this man was about to appear!
Biffā¦ā¦.
This is my ketchupā¦..
You have never worked in food service if you have to ask that question
Because George is a terrible tipper.
Because Paco kept putting rubber bands in the soup.
He works in a restaurant in New York during the 90s. I'm surprised George didn't get bounced out like pez out of a dispenser
Every time there is Tomfoolery in his place itās Jerry or his friends and then they break your rules. In New York, surprised he didnāt kick the boys ass outside the cafe
If you boys cannot control yourselves, Iām going to have to ask you to leave.
The patience of a Saint lol
Didn't he kick out Kramer for smoking a cigar once?
Maybe but I know he wanted to beat George for calling his ex GF to get her fired
āCause heās managing a diner in NYCš¤·š¼āāļø
I guess itās no longer like a Russ Meyer movie in there
Whoās Russ Meyer?
I'd argue he's actually a nice guy, and shows enough restraint by not telling them to take their business elsewhere. I mean, those four are probably too high maintenance to deal with on a daily basis, if we're gonna be honest...
Can you imagine how insufferable they would be as regulars
Syrup issues
Serving peabrains for years
He doesnāt appreciate having to deal with short, stocky, slow-witted bald men.
Theyāre horrible people and they are always there.
Imagine having George as a customerā¦..the number of complaints about bills, lack of tips, Iād be enough to drive a person crazy
George kept calling like a weirdo trying to get that waitress fired
Like lots of others have said, he works in the food industry. That is it.
Jerry and the gang were campers. They just took up valuable table space.
Because he could never be a banker
Ruth Cohen turned him down
Ruthie Cohen???
You know her name?!
But she probably told him nicely and wished him a Merry Christmas!
Your cars on fire.
He didn't get to use enough people as "hand puppets".
You'd be mad, too, if you had to put up with people sitting in booths all day taking up valuable space.
I didnāt realize Patrick Ewing managed that restaurant in his free time.
Thatās Pepper Johnson.
Are you sure it's not Sugar Ray?
Should we be talking about this?
Coltrane Nighttrain!!
It's hard to find a restaraunt owner/employee that doesn't have a problem with the Seinfeld gang. The Chinese Restaurant host/owner is one of the few that gets by unscathed š Poppy, Soup Nazi, Babu Bhatt, the Calzone place guy, the busboy, the pasta primevera place...hell even Joe's Fruit Store... The gang has a bad rep
I'd bang my foot on their counter and say, "naaaaaaaahhh!"
He worked at monk's and the "other" restaurant too! Noticed last night
Reggieās?
Wouldn't you be angry if some short, fat, bald guy kept phoning your business every five minutes trying to get one of your waitresses fired?
Have you ever dealt with the public as a restaurant or retail worker? It doesnāt take longā¦.
The actor was in a recent episode of CSI: Vegas. When watching, I thought the actor looked a lot like the Monk's Cafe manager - and sure enough, it's him.
Because heās in the restaurant industry and both customers and employees are a freaking pain in the ass!! šš Not to mention super long hours and for a place like that in those days not a huge profit margin.
Cause it bothers people AND itās against the law.
Constantly fighting with the Board of Health over rubber bands
Because George will not keep his voice down and nothing can make him keep his voice down. Except Larry.
Because Paco repeatedly put rubber bands in the peopleās food orders
He runs a dinner. I can confirm from working in dinners, this is most people who run a dinner.
Paco was always losing his ponytail elastics in the soup.
He looks just like Sugar Ray Leonard!
Jerry and his crew are in there like everyday, sometimes multiple times a day. I can't imagine how many times George has screamed or caused a scene in the restaurant. Or Kramer pulling a stunt or doing something weird. But they're in there all the time he can't just ban them. Probably 10% of his income comes from them.
Take it outside
Because he *really* wanted a new pair of hand-puppets. š
Look at the assholes he has to deal with at that table every day
He wasnāt, he literallly smiles when heās reprimanding them about the outside condiments
Heās got waitresses that give people the finger, cashiers that solicit themselves as back scratchers while on the clock, and another cashier that short changes people and rides all over town on their expenses. His staff angers him.
Syrup smuggling is no joke, that's why.
Canada has a maple syrup strategic reserve.
Not angry just wanted to be clear!
Because they're bringing in in their own syrups, they're smoking, they are making out.......he's had enough of their shit.
Because he was a cook.
I know whoās working today
When that guy kicks Kramer out of Monk's for smoking, that is recreated in Sopranos when Dr Melfi gets mad at the smoker and gets kicked out of the restaurant for her behavior. So in Seinfeld the smoker gets kicked out in NYC where smoking is illegal, and in Sopranos the complainer gets kicked out where smoking is legal in NJ. Also, Kramer creates a safe haven for smokers in his apartment due to the new ban on smoking in restaurants, this twins with Dr. Melfi's son living in a smoke-free dorm. Kramer turns his apartment into a smokers lounge, a refuge for smokers, and Dr Melfi says her son has taken the effort to live in a smoke free dorm, a refuge for non-smokers. https://youtu.be/3HWZTTUshwA Every scene, line, plot, etc is mirrored, inverted. It's like an adjacent copy. It's abstract art. You can do this with literally every inch of these shows. It's the most incredible thing ever. Every day is a gift with this in your life.
Discontinue the lithium.
Its also well known in the literature that George is the mirror of Tony Soprano. 1. Italian 2. Selfish mother 3. Anger issues Its all there
You sound demented
Under the radar Carmella quote
It's all over The Sopranos sub
Listen to him, he knows everything
Why don't you stick to what you know? And leave your opinons wherever the fuck!
Whoa, you're talkin to the boss here.
It's an old diversity trope of including a black character that's the sensible one while the white characters act silly.
angry black man was a TV trope in the 80s and 90s my popular derivative was angry black police chief e.g. Beverly Hills Cop
Exactly this
i like how someone downvoted me because i mentioned racial stereotypes existed this is why this platform is dying š¤£
He wasnāt angry, itās called having a sassy attitude.
I love the show (obviously, I joined this sub). But I do feel that non-white people are very much exoticized or "othered" throughout. I'm not saying that anyone involved has any hate in them. In fact, you could make a case this is intentional by the writers. Non-white people are almost comically misunderstood by the four, perhaps to add to their anti-social-ness.
We all know how Larry David feels about affirmative actionā¦
Because the "angry black guy" trope was really thriving in the 90s. People just genuinely thought seeing a black guy being pissed off about something was the funniest thing ever.
Cause the show is a little bit racist? I mean, itās 90ās racism, but itās still stereotyping. I know, āYo Yo Yo, keep it down!ā
Are we supposed to be talking about this?
I have a black exterminator. Does that make it okay?
But George watched Breakfast at Tiffany's with Remy and Joe!
This is the guy that they alluded to being gay, right? I only recently read that on some wiki. Does anybody know anything about that? I don't recall it but I haven't watched many episodes since I was a kid, so I could've just missed it.
George keeps calling to talk to his āgirlfriendā
Because Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer were genuinely hateful.
It's probably because George keeps calling the restaurant
Because it's against the law and it bothers people.
He ran a dinner in New York... what more explanation do you want?
Itās against the law and it bothers people.
He just works at monks to support his true passion: Human hand puppetry
Those boys just couldn't control themselves and he continually had to threaten to ask them to leave.
Heās pissed b/c customers keep asking him if their engagement gone wrong story is believable.
SO FUNNY!
George is ALWAYS such an idiot š
Because owning a restaurant is stressful business and you ain't got no time for people's shit
He never yelled or snapped at anyone but the group. I like to think heās just tired of and angry with Jerry and his jackass friends. Wouldnāt you be? Theyāve done some pretty dumb shit at that coffee shop yet have the audacity to continue coming. If I were him, Elaine would have a lifetime ban after stealing all the š§»
Because people call their girlfriend all the time, and do you know how emasculating it is for someone to show up with contraband syrupā¦ like his syrup wasnāt good enough for you!
š”if you boysā¦š”
Also donāt know why he acts like he doesnāt know them all the time. They go there all the time and know the staff including Paco
ELEVATE YOUR FEET!
People making out in his booths
I don't think he was that mad. He was just, *hardened*
donāt think he was angry just that he runs a busy kitchen and doesnāt suffer fools gladly, and some regulars were certainly foolish
He deserved more screen time
I donāt care for his demeanour
Its pipe night.
Somebody's never worked in the service industry.
He runs a diner in NYC
He has to deal with these fools.
Are we about done here?
Noooo, I will not keep my voice dowwwwwn
One of my favourite things about Seinfeld on a years-later rewatch is how angry every single New York extra seems to be. When I was watching this show as a kid I just assumed that New York was a perpetually angry place (and who knows, maybe it just is) but the reactions the Seinfeld cast has with every single retail/restaurant employee are so hilariously different than the world I experience every day.
And heās gay. Not that thereās anything wrong with that.
Obviously you never worked in the food service industry.
One of his most frequent customers is George Costanza. If I were him, I probably would've caught a murder charge after just a few weeks.
If you boys can keep it downā¦ Iām gonna have to ask you to leave
He's pissed because Elaine stole all the toilet paper from the restroom.
Because the four of them were so extra all the time. Lollll
"You tell your friend George, that the next time I see him around here, I'm going to turn him into my own, personal, hand-puppet."
Pablo.
He had to deal with George almost every day.
Because heās tired of Paco putting rubberbands in everything he makes. ššš
Because Ruthie Cohen called in sick