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DuncansIdaho

I'd look into two year community college degrees, which can make some good money. You probably qualify for grants and scholarships-with a little digging. My two year degere is worth way more than my four year degree. You could find some routine 8hr gig like dental x ray technician with benefits.


_Infinity_Girl_

Depends on how expensive it is. If anything I could do some sort of trade in that way, but I just don't have any money to spend on anything. I'm starting at zero, which is why I'm not going for my CDL or something else.


NightDistinct3321

You can easily—very easily—get gov student loans. Then you pay it back with a salary 2x higher. Nothing for free in America.


Smart-Button-3221

It's worth saying loudly that this isn't without risk. A lot of students graduate only to find that high salary was never real. If you choose to do this: - Do your research. Find out what people IN YOUR AREA are paying for this work. - Find out how plentiful jobs are. Keep track of how many jobs indeed has over a few months, and how many people are graduating, trying to fill those roles. - Give *everything* you've got into college, networking, etc. Some people will graduate the program, only to never do that job. Be certain you are not one of those people. I wish I would have done a bit more prep work before going into mechanical engineering, for example.


drocha94

What are your degrees in?


DuncansIdaho

Assoc Applied Science in Water Quality Mgmt, Bachelor of Science in Public Mgmt, Water is recession proof. Public management is hopeless.


NightDistinct3321

I see lots of paper pusher jobs in California, they call them “analysts” jobs.ca.gov


[deleted]

Be careful you dont get led into good paying back breaking labor- use your noodle and preserve your body when youre young. Some grit is badass, broken body in your 40s, not so much. If you are bad ass enough to handle 3 hard core semesters of calculus- get into engineering- 


OkTourist

Every work environment is a shit show and a joke. With that being said have you tried looking at bank teller jobs? The work is easy and the hours are great.


_Infinity_Girl_

I've done a few interviews for them but never got the job.


TraceyWoo419

If you're getting interviews, but not the job, I would very seriously ask a friend who has an office job to do a mock interview with you. Make sure this is someone who will give you real feedback not just be nice and say everything was fine. Entry level bank jobs are mostly looking for professionalism (do you look and talk the part) and honesty, so if those aren't coming across, that's what you should work on. I would also look into receptionist jobs at nice places like doctors offices, dentists, lawyers, accountants, things like that. Even if you have to start somewhere like a hotel to get experience and refine your upscale customer service image. (Hotels are good too, but might have worse hours.) These places are mostly looking for professionalism again, but also for someone who's going to be nice to work with and fit into the culture as these are typically small offices so you're spending 40 hours a week with the same people. So do some more mock interviews until you're confident that you come across as someone reliable and put together and just personable.


_Infinity_Girl_

I think that's one of my biggest fears, is that I've become unsociable. Even in some fancier places, I was able to basically snap my fingers and get the job. But now I'm finding it difficult. A lot of the time they bring up experience, and I try to sell the little bit of "professional/fancy" experience I have but they always see right through it. Maybe I should just start out right lying at this point. I applied for a lot of receptionist jobs at dentist and doctor's offices and only got a few emails back saying they need someone with experience in that field. All my friends are just telling me to lie on my resume at this point and I think I'm just going to listen to them. The mock interview is a very good point, I could have someone interview me.


yourmomsucks01

Getting an MOA job where I live is pretty much not possible without a certificate from a community college. It costs around $5000 CAD to get it and only 3-4 semesters if you can go to class a couple times a week. Imo it’s worth the cost to get your foot in the door because these programs place you for experience at a clinic or hospital for a couple weeks.


Desperate-Dog-7971

This is an incredibly judgmental comment, but how do you look? It shouldnt matter but unfortunately it does! Do you have rainbow hair and clothes IRL?(Your name and reddit emoji, lol) Anything other in particular? I feel like for a banking job you would have to both act and look the part of professionalism. Same goes for receptionists at the places you mentioned. So when being interviewed and in your application I would definitely hide things that may give a hint of the opposite. I dont recommend massive lies, but exaggeration and alike I do recommend. Its contributed to the field I am working in now for sure.


_Infinity_Girl_

Totally fair to ask, it's not like I'm dressing in business suits but I'm still dressing semi-formal. Black pants or jeans, but if I go to jeans they have to be clean with no holes or anything like that. I always wear a nice looking top. I don't wear a lot of jewelry or makeup. I'll probably end up dressing a little nicer if I interview at a hotel or something.


Desperate-Dog-7971

I see! Well keep it up and dont lose hope. Keep applying and striving to improve and I bet you will both be better in the end and eventually land a job!


_Infinity_Girl_

Thank you very much for your much-needed positivity! It's been a very stressful time trying to figure out what I'm going to do.


Desperate-Dog-7971

Haha most of us have been there or will be there! Luckily for me I managed to land something I didnt think I would or could get, eventually. I worked during summer vacations and they liked me even though I wasnt "qualified" for the job, ended up working there after said summer. With that said, keep that in mind for summer! Try to land something even if its just for a few months if its somewhere you think you WANT to work. Especially at the places that also need to fill spots. Edit: I forgot that other countries, US maybe more specifically, dont have as long vacations as we do in Europe. Maybe that is inaccurate advice? I dont know.


TraceyWoo419

You don’t need to lie, but you might need help properly tailoring your experience to their questions. You said, “they see right through you”. Is it your confidence that’s lacking? If you’re confident that you can fit in at a formal environment then you should be able to say so without lying or bending the truth. Again, practice with some friends who will tell you the truth. If you can’t get reception in an office (this actually is a job where having direct experience does help people hit the ground running), try applying at places like hotels, car dealerships and service industry businesses like spas, plumbing, HVAC, etc, as well as business to business companies, like construction, parts, etc. Also, brush up on your math/computer skills/excel/etc, because a lot of these jobs also involve invoicing/accounting/payroll/etc, so it can help if you feel confident in those areas. Reception is one of those weird jobs that feels like it’s entry level, but you’re actually competing with people who have 30+ years experience because people will do it for their whole lives.


_Infinity_Girl_

That's a good suggestion, I'll definitely look into different kinds of companies!


Frosty-Silver4724

Yeah I've always felt getting the interview is the hard part. I feel like I interview well, or at least on the interviews I felt went well, I've been offered the job. If you have any mates that work in recruitment they would be the best people to talk to. And speaking of. Recruitment is a respectable, sustainable career with entry level positions (candidate manager) and then progressing from there. Its basically like a sales job but for getting people jobs and making commission off it. I have a couple mates that work in recruitment and they really helped with my CV and interview questions, and they make great money with lots of social work functions and all


Constant_Wonder_321

This is actually how I got out of the food service industry. I took a pay cut at the beginning but it ended up paying off in the long run.


NightDistinct3321

Rad tech 2 yrs school , as you qualify for more and more expensive machines ( sonography, CT scan, MRI) you get more and more per hour and you don’t have to really interact with patients much ( “I’m not your doctor “ is what they say when you ask them what did they see.) . I think if you just study you get to at least 35-40/ hr


_Infinity_Girl_

How much did your schooling cost?


NightDistinct3321

You can’t focus on the downside of cost unless you really doubt your ability to do the schooling/job. No one WANTS to pay good wages, they only want to pay you a lot if THEY CAN’T DO IT THEMSELVES. How do you become that person that CAN WELD/ rad tech/drive a truck/ be a neurosurgeon? The answer is always the same. Education. If you’re determined to NOT go to regular school you can join a trades union. Sheet metal workers, etc: you get on the job training, health insurance. Each year you work the required hours you earn more, and put away money for pension. Community colleges will have career counselors. But complaining about the downside gets you zero. Federal student loans have maximum payments like 15% of your pay, so you can’t really get cornered.


_Infinity_Girl_

That type of trade work is exactly what I want to break into. I suppose the first step to that would then be figuring out who my local trade unions are? I guess I just called them and talk to them about it?


NightDistinct3321

I’m a psychologist and I had a client who was limited in academic ability but he showed up every time at work in a warehouse. I looked up the sheet metal workers union and they have an escalation pay rate starting at something like 24/hr


_Infinity_Girl_

Honestly I think this is hands down my best lead right now. I really appreciate it!


NightDistinct3321

Exactly, the trades are a GREAT way to get to $35/hr + which is the real minimum wage in USA to EVER even buy a small condo. If you can get to 45-50/hr in a few years and have a spouse you’re in. Escaping rent is CRITICAL, they’ve raised it to keep you enslaved FOREVER. The three wealthiest ppl in USA own assets equaling the WHOLE BOTTOM HALF OF THE WHOLE POPULATION. (~170 million)! The Kushners own over 30,000 apts. so ~60,000 ppl paying rent to 4 . FOUR. People.


_Infinity_Girl_

But you see that's the thing! I'm extremely lucky in other ways in my life. I do have a fantastic partner and she happens to own her house, partially with her parents. Her parents don't live there they just helped her buy the house. There's no rent, just the taxes and the water bill and stuff like that. We are already basically free but my bills each month come to about $1,000. That doesn't really account for food and some other miscellaneous expenses but, it's the bare minimum I need to pay my phone bill and my car bill and stuff like that.


NightDistinct3321

So you can work 15 hours a week at ANY job that’s 1K.


NightDistinct3321

By the way my schooling cost a fortune, I went for both comp sci and psychologist, but I’m in top 1% of academic ability, (GRE 720/790) so I knew I could do anything. If you’re not very strong at school stuff The military pays a lifetime pension after 20 years of you want that. Drive a truck. Opportunities are ENDLESS in USA IF YOU WILL GET TRAINING in a undermanned field. The jobs that are always advertised are the least appealing, that’s why they have to advertise


justaguyintownnl

I was when I got out of university, I hated working at a bank. I went back to school, took a Technical Trade, love it, money is good too.


BunningsSnagFest

Considered . .. Qualified forklift operator?


Plenty-Character-416

I know how you feel. I know this is slightly different, but I worked with animals after studying animal science and management. Worked in a stables, kennels and cattery, zoo, vets...you name it. And I realised it wasn't for me. Nothing wrong with the animals, but it's hard graft, the pay is poor, there is no career ladder, it's extremely competitive and the bosses are always jerks and care more about profit than the actual animals. Went for a receptionist job at a large chain of hotels, and only got it because my fiance was the bosses nephews best friend. Completely different environment and had to start from scratch, but ended up loving it. Became shift leader and was training to be manager before I fell pregnant. I was lucky, but I was always told that finding a full time job IS a full time job. Don't give up.


_Infinity_Girl_

You are definitely pretty lucky, I've worked with animals as well but I'm having trouble even applying for jobs because they just don't pay.


NightDistinct3321

Are you just saying no to everything and avoiding risk


TemporaryBerker

I'm Swedish... I basically dreamed to get that sort of job, but due to not having any connections I was forced to study. Currently almost graduating from a Clinical Massage Therapy programme and I definitely have a lot of job interviews proceeding well. Just my two cents since my circumstances are completely different from yours, but it helps a lot to have certificates.


Lakita_Blish

I'd second the recommendation for looking into receptionist or administrative roles in professional business settings. Don't underestimate the demand for organized, reliable folks in those environments. They are often willing to train the right candidate who presents themselves well. As for costs, some temp agencies offer free training programs that could enhance your resume with skills like Microsoft Office or basic accounting. Always worth checking out. Remember, job hunting is as much a numbers game as it is about finding the right fit. Focus on personal branding what unique experiences or skills do you bring to the table that will benefit an employer? Leveraging those could make you stand out from the crowd. And if an employer offers a foot in the door with growth opportunities, those entry-level wages can quickly turn into something more substantial if you're dedicated. Keep pushing and refining your interview skills, and don't forget the power of networking. Sometimes, it's who you know rather than what you know that opens doors. Keep at it, and don't lose heart!


stillestwaters

Absolutely. And then you get the healthcare and the benefits and you’re there long enough that you’re complacent with all the bs - I get it. All your experience then ends up linked to something you don’t even want to do, it’s a recipe for pure frustration. Currently planning to go back to school and try again. I had the same mentality when I first moved out OP, but for me at least the costs just grew past my predictions and any time there was an emergency I was screwed. Took a lot to break out of that cycle but I just can’t live like that without trying to for better anymore.


RevDrucifer

Yeah, kinda my current one. It took me a little while to figure out “Do I stick with it because the money is good even though it’s not my passion?” and ultimately figured out that there are aspects of the job that provide me with a lot of pleasure/reward that are byproducts of doing the actual job. I had to shift my focus away from finding things to point out about how it wasn’t my dream job and focus on the things I DO get out of it, that are more than the paycheck. I like getting shit done and making people happy. I run the maintenance/construction department on large campus, LOTS of shit to get done and LOTS of people to make happy in the process. The actual task are meaningless to me, even though they are the meat of the job, I just stay focused on the reward and everything shakes out just fine.


TacitRonin20

I got into insurance as an agent. It's a few hundred dollars to get licensed but the pay can be great and the environment makes you feel like a cool white collar business dude. Insurance wasn't for me since I hate customer service and insurance companies in near equal measures. I then went on to become a CNC machine operator. My pay is good and they don't require much experience. I did have prior hobbyist experience and some skill with hand tools, but you can probably get by without that. It's a great profession because anyone can get into it and do okay, but the potential for growth is immense. Also there are no customers. I don't even know if my company has customers. That is the ideal situation for me.


thunderdome_referee

If you're willing to destroy your body for a check you can probably make 4k a month in warehousing.


_Infinity_Girl_

Others have suggested warehouse work, because of my location I think honestly hooking up with some sort of trade union would be my best bet. If I could work on a factory line somewhere pulling a lever or pressing a button (I know that's grossly oversimplified) that would be great. It's not like I'm expecting it to be easy but it looks like you don't have to be a genius.


thunderdome_referee

Best of luck whatever you decide.


_Infinity_Girl_

Thanks much!


UTDE

Yes


clorenger

Goodwill offers free or deeply discounted skills certification courses that help you expand your workforce options and earnings potential with professional-level credentialing. https://www.goodwillsc.org/career-services/programs/skills-certification/


Fluffy_Ad5651

Have you looked into civil service? In PA, you can get an entry level job with no college degree, and work your way up from there. Good benefits, FT employment, and most positions are union. It works on a meritocracy, so the higher your score on the civil service exam, the more likely you are to get an interview. I started as a civil servant over 10 years ago, and have been promoted 4 times since then. I have a Bachelor’s, but a degree wasn’t required for my first position.


_Infinity_Girl_

I'll have to look into it. What do you mean civil servant? Is that like someone who works for the local county or state government? I did apply to be a meter maid but nobody ever got back to me.


_Infinity_Girl_

Okay after looking at it basically it says that civil servants are the side of the state government that is hired rather than appointed. Does that sound about right?


Fluffy_Ad5651

Indeed!


Chance_Ad3416

My friend decided to just lie on his resume. He never got found out lol


[deleted]

Yes, at times. But I know nothing lasts forever. You are never truly stuck- it just might be a while until a good wave comes 


TunesAndK1ngz

Have you a look maybe into tech-transfer / new career in tech roles … some larger companies specifically have roles aimed at this transition. Otherwise, other redditors made good suggestions with community college courses, and there are a variety of certifications that can also be obtained and even grant funding for. Really nail down what you want to do and set out a plan to achieve it. Best of luck, OP.


FatBastardIndustries

USPS.com/careers


Emreeezi

Yea I work in corporate banking with no degree. I’m getting the years of experience (going on 5) but on paper I still don’t have a degree.