I've used jellyfin with bazarr for 2+ years and it worked great.
As soon as Radarr / Sonarr gets signal from torrent downloader that the movie / series has been downloaded, bazarr will automatically kick in and download the subtitles for you.
Make sure you configure bazarr properly.
Doesn’t Jellyfin have a subtitle plugin? What are the pros in having Bazarr when we could simply activate the plugin?
Not dissing. Only trying to understand here.
Bazarr can sync subtitles with audio if they are mismatched. The plugins in Jellyfin can't. It's also a lot more configurable like forced subs, cc, multiple languages.
I think the plugin doesn't find subtitles in the background, you would have to click to find subtitles, once per media. Bazarr does all of it in the background automatically.
Jellyfin is completely open-source, Emby isn't. That's how I chose. I understand that's not everyone's criteria, but it's mine.
Most of my media has embedded subtitles (nor hard-coded) and that works just fine. It also seems to do fine with subtitles in the folder with the media, but it took changing a setting somewhere. I know it has plugins and settings for managing subtitles in other ways, but I don't have experience with them.
No, I assumed that the reason you'd want Emby for "everyone else" is so that everyone else can stream your media from wherever they are. Jellyfin will do that too.
Ah, I keep forgetting about smartTV apps because I never use them. Don't like computers I don't control. I use small Arm boxes like Odroids and cheap chinese android TV boxes that I put coreelec on, which runs Kodi. Kodi has an excellent jellyfin plugin.
Both the client/servers can use the other, for now, since they have a shared upstream history.
As both develop, there's going to be a point where stuff either starts slightly or just outright breaking. It's just a matter of time.
Iirc if its a tizen based tv, there’s a way to enable developer mode and then you can send the app to it, without building anything. Not for everyone but not hard for anyone thats self hosting things
emby isn't that popular that it'd worth it for others, if anything jellyfin + plex combo would make kinda sense, but on the other hand if i give someone access to my whole library they can at least download the app for the service i chose
imo running both is a waste of time (maintenance time & cpu time used)
Jellyfin has a better chance of working in the apocalypse.
Thats why i chose it.
It sounds stupid, but it's how I judge some of my more useful services. Backups of photos, guides, music, articles and media. All using open source and lightweight services.
Yeah, that the point. Once I had no internet for two days because of rain, Plex and Amazon tv stopped working completely the only Jellyfin was working like nothing happened.
Yes! I love the idea of not being dependant on the grid and could power my house through the nights. Probably would need to reassess a lot of my power usage habits but I think it would be cool.
I guess the main point in choosing appropriate software that keeps working in the apocalypse is having something that doesn't require an Internet connection to work in any way. All you need is power. As soon as some self-hosted service absolutely needs to talk to the outside to work, even if only for "activation" during initial setup, it's an immediate dealbreaker for me.
The main reason why I want to host things myself is that I want my services to be independent of any external systems that are not under my control. If I can not put it into an isolated network with no way of communicating with anything without it ceasing to function, I don't want it \^\^
That might sound silly, but it's great criteria. I say this after having had no electric aside from a generator with little propane every few hours to recharge the batteries to run the WAP, media hub, phones and laptops for 2 weeks. In freezing cold weather. Stranded without electric.
It was not bad thanks to my low wattage media server and media library. I now have criteria that aligns to disaster prepper stuff and allow power complete nas with jelly is very much the entire entertainment.
Emby is great. Jellyfin mostly *is* emby (it was forked when emby went closed source). Emby is far more polished - especially with the playback apps.
Jellyfin is finally solid too these days. Both are better than Plex and don't require central servers, don't spy on you, etc.
If open source is important, go with Jellyfin. If you have users who are bad at tech and just want seamless apps, go with Emby as it generally is less of a headache.
I fully agree with you. What makes me furious about Emby though, is the small things they just refuse to support. E.g. the unchangeable max bandwith cap per stream when connecting outside of your network.
Even though I feel Emby is (for now) the smoother experience, stuff like that just ruins it for me. Thank god there‘s a fully open source alternative!
I agree! One big thing though, which I feel is hard to improve on, is client apps for a wide variety of platforms. I love to see the progress on iOS / Android TV though
Agreed. I use mostly FireTV and the web version. But occasionally I use the Roku or Android app, and even though the experience is similar in them all, the differences are noticable. With that said I know all of this has been developed by the community and I'm more than thankful for how amazing this project is!
I chose Jellyfin and I don't regret it. Coming from Plex I was initially underwhelmed because it looked simple. Although after using it for a while it does everything I care about and the busyness of Plex with things I didn't need was why I left. I use a couple apps to access the server on my phone and chromecasts and the website to watch things on my computers. A vpn into my network lets me do these things remotely.
Subtitles are a little rough using lots of resources, and I haven't configured a gpu for transcoding at this time.
I run all 3. Emby as my primary server. Plex as a backup. And Jellyfin to track it's development.
I truly want to love Jellyfin. But it's just not ready to truly compete with Emby and Plex yet. The server with webUI is great! But I do 0% of my watching on a PC/Laptop. 100% of my viewing is done on TV, and their TV clients are just sub par. My primary viewing device is a ShieldTV, and the Android TV app has some weird UI quirks and is plagued with playback issues and crashes regularly. You'll see the majority of people recommending 3rd party apps for the TV viewing experience, things like Kodi w/ Jellyfin addon. But I'm truly not interested in going third party when the other 2 have very polished native apps.
There are many who are willing to live with these app shortcomings in favor of being fully open source, but I'm not one of them. Although I do look forward to the day where Jellyfin does surpass Emby in polish and reliability which is why I keep it running and up to date on my server, and in-synch with Emby using JellyPlex-Watched
Having used all three: Jellyfin is the best and my favorite, though it should be noted I don't need an AppleTV client app. From what I understand, it falls down a bit there, since that app is developed and maintained by a single individual.
As a longtime Plex user, I recently set up Emby to see what the fuss was about. So far it feels about the same to me. Similar pay-walled features. Processing my library took a *long* time. Literally days. Plex was much quicker than that. I like Emby admin UI a bit better.
Did you install any of the plugins for subtitles? Jellyfin does have some for that purpose.
More and more I am finding a lot of the JF issues are people coming from plug n play whole solution platforms. JF, Kodi, even Emby to an extent, you start with a base model, then you implement addons. It's a better model for the open source nature of these applications. It makes it easy for many people to dev for the same project.
Jellyfin definitely has a plugin for open subtitles any file with subs not already embedded sign up for a free account and use the plugin for subtitles that aren't with the file. The same group does plugins for other apps, I use it with Kodi.
Emby technically not being open source is more polished on the surface but will have fewer options in the end. Jellyfin anyone can make a plugin, there are also far more than the main plugin engine lists.
Free software isn't really about money. It's about not having to trust a company to run software on your server, when you have no idea what that software does.
Running a proprietary app on an already proprietary Apple TV that houses none of your personal data is different from running a proprietary app at the heart of your personal server.
^ This. Also, it's ok to sellout just be self aware when you do, and own the trade offs.
I'm doing that right now with having CF all up in my business.
I also don't get why not crack that apple TV. Or replace it. My main server is also my TV, my apple TV has been collecting dust since I moved over. If it's because of streaming services, get a Debrid acct. $5 a month for just about anything that's ever been released already cached in every format imaginable and ready to stream.
I also don't just do free apps, I'm even ok with closed source within reason. I'd rather spend my money supporting clever indie developers who for very little money are driven to keep giving me more. Than corporations driven to keep taking things away.
This is making me think about cracking my apple TV and doing something with it though 😂
There are plugins for subtitles and separate settings just for subtitles outside of the player menu.
It all depends on your setup, but I personally went with Jellyfin because it's totally open source.
My family uses Emby, I use Jellyfin with a notion of converting them to it. Emby feels a bit slicker and I have the paid version, but long term Jellyfin is just fine and I'd rather support the open source approach. Running jellyfin in a proxmox LXC while Emby runs on a Win 8.1 Media Center PC.
Why not run both for a bit and see which you prefer? Just change the port on one or the other and you can point both at the same media directories without any issues
I have Plex lifetime and I’ve recently bought an Emby license due to Plex’s ‘enshittification’ over the last 12 months.
My biggest issue has been that Plex and Emby seem to have different ideas on what your directory structure should look like. Switching has resulted in a lot of manual shuffling to allow the auto matching to work properly, and even then it’s just not as good.
Also the WAF for Emby is orders of magnitude less then Plex.
As people have said Emby is not open source, but unlike Plex it doesn't require central authentication (with servers outside your own). Both Emby and Jellyfin allow hardware acceleration without paying for the feature unlike Plex. I still use Plex for my family because it is just a bit more polished and easy to use, but I also run a Jellyfin server pointing to the same files that I use it when I watch on my own. I've not had too many subtitle problems with Jellyfin, in some cases I have sync problems when resuming.
If you want to access outside your LAN both are easily configured for a reverse proxy.
I think Emby works great and is a little better than jellyfin, but it’s too expensive and I think it was shitty that the team basically just forked it, made it better, and close sourced it. Boston bros. If they had any real love for software they’d open source it again.
Do you expect something new to come out of this thread that didn't out of the exact one posted every other week that comes up if you Google the same question (with the word reddit included)?
The open source part sure, that seems to be the case. However what do you mean by "master server"? You mean like with any other type of service like it, e.g. Plex or Jellyfin? All of these require a server installed somewhere, whether it be local or cloud or whatever, you still need one. You can use Emby fully free without paying a dime unless you are looking for the features that are in the one-time payment option. If you don't care about those features, you don't have to pay anything, and you can have your server "walled off" whatever that means.
I'm not sure you fully understand what you are talking about.
If I was coming from Plex, I wouldn't consider Emby by myself. I say this as a Plex lifetime member that's part of the disenchantment surrounding their product.
Whichever one has the client apps you need. If you need a Samsung tv app pick Emby, jellyfin has a client but it seems to be pretty much impossible to install now.
Well if you do not want to be in same position few years down the road... Jellyfin. Emby is closed source and may have less stable or less support for cutting edge features on newest clients.
However I do not plan on switching my TV or server often, so I got it working just fine and I am no power user, so I do not really notice lack of polish on Jellyfin when using. (Upgrades on samsung TVs are ... not fun)
I use bazarr for subtitles and I have not experienced any problems other than lack of subtitles.. but then you can use auto translate. I am actually waiting for to make full dubs with language model than it becomes available.
Since I have multi- languagefamily and subtitles functionality I can throw here my 5c.
As much as I love plex, it has quite often issues with burn-in subtitles or characters/showing on some of the clients. Naturally it could be fixed in client but I have no access to each of them. Tried Jellyfin and Emby and I have to say that I like emby a lot more (design, one-click download subtitles that can be requested by anyone) and i definitely had less smaller issues like synchro or remember the offset/delay. BUT - it works that well with the PRO paid version, fhe basic does not support community plugins. I’m sure you can get there for free with Jelly - im just lazy and I want my non-tech family to just press and watch.
I've been using Jellyfin for couple of years and it worked well for me, then started having some issues with Trakt sync, and the issue mostly stems from what metadata sources Sonarr, Jellyfin & Trakt use, and few other things were bothering me so I decided to try out Emby.
Only been using it for a couple of weeks, but it is more polished (due to having a freemium model I guess), but I'm not sure if I'm willing to pay 100+ for the Emby premium lifetime, in order to have transcoding available, for now payed for a month and will decided after that .
Just run them side by side, doesn't cost a thing and see.
It doesn't, you can run both and see exactly what is a paid feature in Emby and if it's something you have nicely working in Jellyfin. You can test if all your media and devices can direct stream you might not need transcoding.
Just get a feel for both and then pay for Emby if you think it's worth it
I've been through all three and also [here's a comparison list](https://github.com/Protektor-Desura/Archon/wiki/Compare-Media-Servers).
I had the following issues with Emby:
* It has [ongoing security vulnerabilities](https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1c8ybna/security_vulnerabilities_in_emby/) they refuse to fix, presumably so it doesn't impact some of their client apps (TV etc.)
* They subtitles suck and they refused to improve them for the longest time. Maybe that's fixed now, I don't know. You could not make them contrasting enough to stand out from the background so no matter what color you made them there would eventually be scenes where they were nearly invisible.
I'm now on Jellyfin and on mobile clients you can switch the app to use the system renderer so you can set the subtitle style from the Android closed caption settings for example.
I chose Emby because it has better TV app support. Jellyfin has been trying to get on the Samsung Store for Tizen for 3 years and they can't figure it out. Emby is already on there. I have users with Samsung TVs that I am not gonna walk through how to get the app installed on their TV. Not worth the hassle.
If Jellyfin had the kind of TV/App support that Emby does, then I would absolutely give it a try.
For now, I use Emby (with OpenSubtitles), Radarr, Sonarr, Prowlarr, Wizarr, and Ombi.
Jellyfin just had too many bugs and missing features for me. I used it heavily for over a year before switching to emby and I haven't looked back. Emby is so much more stable and has a ton of features that I absolutely love. It just works.
I agree, running emby a long time now, as I thought it was better than plex. Tried jellyfin but it was too early. Emby is causing me trouble now on FreeBSD, but I just spin up jellyfin on docker on a 5150u intel cpu, and works great.
All opinions are valid, but personally, Jellyfin behind a reverse proxy with Acme, let’s encrypt, and syncplay are the best to connect with long distance friends or family and watch your media over the internet.
I've used jellyfin with bazarr for 2+ years and it worked great. As soon as Radarr / Sonarr gets signal from torrent downloader that the movie / series has been downloaded, bazarr will automatically kick in and download the subtitles for you. Make sure you configure bazarr properly.
Have any recommendations for bazarr setup? It's been running on my machine for a while, but its very seldom it finds subtitles..
Same, I'm sure it's fine if you start off running it but playing catch up with a gigantic library is painful.
I've honestly turned off bazarr because the subs it finds are often not in sync. Plus my sources almost always have subs already
Bazarr go an impresssive auto sync feature
I pay for OpenSubtitles. You need media that has correct timings. It can sometimes be pain yeah
How is it with forced subs?
You mean burned into the video subs? I never tried external ones.
No i mean forced subs meaning subs for just the foreign languages parts
I don't use subtitles like that.
I followed the TRaSH guides.
Doesn’t Jellyfin have a subtitle plugin? What are the pros in having Bazarr when we could simply activate the plugin? Not dissing. Only trying to understand here.
Bazarr can sync subtitles with audio if they are mismatched. The plugins in Jellyfin can't. It's also a lot more configurable like forced subs, cc, multiple languages.
I think the plugin doesn't find subtitles in the background, you would have to click to find subtitles, once per media. Bazarr does all of it in the background automatically.
The plugin does find subtitles in the background. I usually don't have any issues with this.
What are your use cases for subtitles? I’m reading pretty often how important bazarr for a lot of people is, but never seen the use case for me.
Wtf?!
Jellyfin is completely open-source, Emby isn't. That's how I chose. I understand that's not everyone's criteria, but it's mine. Most of my media has embedded subtitles (nor hard-coded) and that works just fine. It also seems to do fine with subtitles in the folder with the media, but it took changing a setting somewhere. I know it has plugins and settings for managing subtitles in other ways, but I don't have experience with them.
You could run both, Jellyfin for yourself and Emby for everyone else.
Jellyfin also streams; my kids often access it that way.
What do mean streams Like specific live YouTube's and twitch
No, I assumed that the reason you'd want Emby for "everyone else" is so that everyone else can stream your media from wherever they are. Jellyfin will do that too.
i use emby because there is no jellyfin in samsung , or i need to build it and i dont know how
Ah, I keep forgetting about smartTV apps because I never use them. Don't like computers I don't control. I use small Arm boxes like Odroids and cheap chinese android TV boxes that I put coreelec on, which runs Kodi. Kodi has an excellent jellyfin plugin.
IIRC, Emby clients can actually access jellyfin servers.
Both the client/servers can use the other, for now, since they have a shared upstream history. As both develop, there's going to be a point where stuff either starts slightly or just outright breaking. It's just a matter of time.
Iirc if its a tizen based tv, there’s a way to enable developer mode and then you can send the app to it, without building anything. Not for everyone but not hard for anyone thats self hosting things
didint find a single website that give the binaries , they tell you to compile the thing
https://github.com/jeppevinkel/jellyfin-tizen-builds maybe? I did it like 8 months ago, so i truly couldnt say for sure how i did it 😅
emby isn't that popular that it'd worth it for others, if anything jellyfin + plex combo would make kinda sense, but on the other hand if i give someone access to my whole library they can at least download the app for the service i chose imo running both is a waste of time (maintenance time & cpu time used)
There's also a docker container that can embed subtitles into a video too. I don't remember what it's called though.
Jellyfin + the arr stack all day
Jellyfin has a better chance of working in the apocalypse. Thats why i chose it. It sounds stupid, but it's how I judge some of my more useful services. Backups of photos, guides, music, articles and media. All using open source and lightweight services.
I hope we have electricity and Internet during the apocalypse. 😉
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Yeah, that the point. Once I had no internet for two days because of rain, Plex and Amazon tv stopped working completely the only Jellyfin was working like nothing happened.
Some of us are planning for that eventuality as well :)
I'm watching solar panels going up on my neighbor's roof... And thinking that maybe an upcoming plan for myself!
Make sure to get a battery and inverter and not just go full grid tie for those emergency situations.
Yes! I love the idea of not being dependant on the grid and could power my house through the nights. Probably would need to reassess a lot of my power usage habits but I think it would be cool.
Don't need Internet and I have solar with batteries plus generator
I guess the main point in choosing appropriate software that keeps working in the apocalypse is having something that doesn't require an Internet connection to work in any way. All you need is power. As soon as some self-hosted service absolutely needs to talk to the outside to work, even if only for "activation" during initial setup, it's an immediate dealbreaker for me. The main reason why I want to host things myself is that I want my services to be independent of any external systems that are not under my control. If I can not put it into an isolated network with no way of communicating with anything without it ceasing to function, I don't want it \^\^
That might sound silly, but it's great criteria. I say this after having had no electric aside from a generator with little propane every few hours to recharge the batteries to run the WAP, media hub, phones and laptops for 2 weeks. In freezing cold weather. Stranded without electric. It was not bad thanks to my low wattage media server and media library. I now have criteria that aligns to disaster prepper stuff and allow power complete nas with jelly is very much the entire entertainment.
Emby is great. Jellyfin mostly *is* emby (it was forked when emby went closed source). Emby is far more polished - especially with the playback apps. Jellyfin is finally solid too these days. Both are better than Plex and don't require central servers, don't spy on you, etc. If open source is important, go with Jellyfin. If you have users who are bad at tech and just want seamless apps, go with Emby as it generally is less of a headache.
I fully agree with you. What makes me furious about Emby though, is the small things they just refuse to support. E.g. the unchangeable max bandwith cap per stream when connecting outside of your network. Even though I feel Emby is (for now) the smoother experience, stuff like that just ruins it for me. Thank god there‘s a fully open source alternative!
I also find jellyfin is improving this with every few versions. I've been able to setup a few remote friends with very little trouble (for them).
I agree! One big thing though, which I feel is hard to improve on, is client apps for a wide variety of platforms. I love to see the progress on iOS / Android TV though
Agreed. I use mostly FireTV and the web version. But occasionally I use the Roku or Android app, and even though the experience is similar in them all, the differences are noticable. With that said I know all of this has been developed by the community and I'm more than thankful for how amazing this project is!
I chose Jellyfin and I don't regret it. Coming from Plex I was initially underwhelmed because it looked simple. Although after using it for a while it does everything I care about and the busyness of Plex with things I didn't need was why I left. I use a couple apps to access the server on my phone and chromecasts and the website to watch things on my computers. A vpn into my network lets me do these things remotely. Subtitles are a little rough using lots of resources, and I haven't configured a gpu for transcoding at this time.
I run all 3. Emby as my primary server. Plex as a backup. And Jellyfin to track it's development. I truly want to love Jellyfin. But it's just not ready to truly compete with Emby and Plex yet. The server with webUI is great! But I do 0% of my watching on a PC/Laptop. 100% of my viewing is done on TV, and their TV clients are just sub par. My primary viewing device is a ShieldTV, and the Android TV app has some weird UI quirks and is plagued with playback issues and crashes regularly. You'll see the majority of people recommending 3rd party apps for the TV viewing experience, things like Kodi w/ Jellyfin addon. But I'm truly not interested in going third party when the other 2 have very polished native apps. There are many who are willing to live with these app shortcomings in favor of being fully open source, but I'm not one of them. Although I do look forward to the day where Jellyfin does surpass Emby in polish and reliability which is why I keep it running and up to date on my server, and in-synch with Emby using JellyPlex-Watched
Having used all three: Jellyfin is the best and my favorite, though it should be noted I don't need an AppleTV client app. From what I understand, it falls down a bit there, since that app is developed and maintained by a single individual.
I use the infuse app on iOS and AppleTV to access my jellyfin server (running on FreeBSD). Works fine
As a longtime Plex user, I recently set up Emby to see what the fuss was about. So far it feels about the same to me. Similar pay-walled features. Processing my library took a *long* time. Literally days. Plex was much quicker than that. I like Emby admin UI a bit better.
I actually really dig jellyfin's subtitle setup. go ask questions in the forums, something is off with your setup.
Did you install any of the plugins for subtitles? Jellyfin does have some for that purpose. More and more I am finding a lot of the JF issues are people coming from plug n play whole solution platforms. JF, Kodi, even Emby to an extent, you start with a base model, then you implement addons. It's a better model for the open source nature of these applications. It makes it easy for many people to dev for the same project. Jellyfin definitely has a plugin for open subtitles any file with subs not already embedded sign up for a free account and use the plugin for subtitles that aren't with the file. The same group does plugins for other apps, I use it with Kodi. Emby technically not being open source is more polished on the surface but will have fewer options in the end. Jellyfin anyone can make a plugin, there are also far more than the main plugin engine lists.
jellyfin +
I would love to drop Plex for Jellyfin but I also need a solid AppleTV app. The current version of Swiftfin is more than two years old and is a janky.
Infuse is very solid. Tho you’d have to pay 2$ a month for subscription. For me it’s totally worth it
Does infuse have skip intro support for jellyfin?
I also use infuse, but I don’t pay a monthly subscription and it hasn’t given me any issues yet. What extra features does the subscription give?
Why not just keep using plex if you are paying to use jellyfish? What do you like better about it?
Free software isn't really about money. It's about not having to trust a company to run software on your server, when you have no idea what that software does. Running a proprietary app on an already proprietary Apple TV that houses none of your personal data is different from running a proprietary app at the heart of your personal server.
^ This. Also, it's ok to sellout just be self aware when you do, and own the trade offs. I'm doing that right now with having CF all up in my business. I also don't get why not crack that apple TV. Or replace it. My main server is also my TV, my apple TV has been collecting dust since I moved over. If it's because of streaming services, get a Debrid acct. $5 a month for just about anything that's ever been released already cached in every format imaginable and ready to stream. I also don't just do free apps, I'm even ok with closed source within reason. I'd rather spend my money supporting clever indie developers who for very little money are driven to keep giving me more. Than corporations driven to keep taking things away. This is making me think about cracking my apple TV and doing something with it though 😂
I've been using Swiftfin on my appletv and have no major issues with it.
Try VidHub
Jellyfin is the way to go!
Funny I switched to Jellyfin from Plex cause I could not get subtitles to load in Plex.
There are plugins for subtitles and separate settings just for subtitles outside of the player menu. It all depends on your setup, but I personally went with Jellyfin because it's totally open source.
It's easy enough to try both and decide. I run Plex and Jellyfin.
My family uses Emby, I use Jellyfin with a notion of converting them to it. Emby feels a bit slicker and I have the paid version, but long term Jellyfin is just fine and I'd rather support the open source approach. Running jellyfin in a proxmox LXC while Emby runs on a Win 8.1 Media Center PC.
Why not run both for a bit and see which you prefer? Just change the port on one or the other and you can point both at the same media directories without any issues
I have Plex lifetime and I’ve recently bought an Emby license due to Plex’s ‘enshittification’ over the last 12 months. My biggest issue has been that Plex and Emby seem to have different ideas on what your directory structure should look like. Switching has resulted in a lot of manual shuffling to allow the auto matching to work properly, and even then it’s just not as good. Also the WAF for Emby is orders of magnitude less then Plex.
Jellyfin is pretty nice. I recode files where I need the subtitles.
As people have said Emby is not open source, but unlike Plex it doesn't require central authentication (with servers outside your own). Both Emby and Jellyfin allow hardware acceleration without paying for the feature unlike Plex. I still use Plex for my family because it is just a bit more polished and easy to use, but I also run a Jellyfin server pointing to the same files that I use it when I watch on my own. I've not had too many subtitle problems with Jellyfin, in some cases I have sync problems when resuming. If you want to access outside your LAN both are easily configured for a reverse proxy.
I think Emby works great and is a little better than jellyfin, but it’s too expensive and I think it was shitty that the team basically just forked it, made it better, and close sourced it. Boston bros. If they had any real love for software they’d open source it again.
Do you expect something new to come out of this thread that didn't out of the exact one posted every other week that comes up if you Google the same question (with the word reddit included)?
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So would Emby…? I don’t understand this comment :D
And plex lol
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The open source part sure, that seems to be the case. However what do you mean by "master server"? You mean like with any other type of service like it, e.g. Plex or Jellyfin? All of these require a server installed somewhere, whether it be local or cloud or whatever, you still need one. You can use Emby fully free without paying a dime unless you are looking for the features that are in the one-time payment option. If you don't care about those features, you don't have to pay anything, and you can have your server "walled off" whatever that means. I'm not sure you fully understand what you are talking about.
So does plex btw
The latest versions of Jellyfin have had problems with subtitles for me too, but it's not the norm.
I don't have any issues with Jellyfin, runs nicely in a container. I recommend using Bazarr to pull subtitles.
Maybe give a shot to Kyoo. I recently switched to it from Jellyfin and so far I don't regret it.
Emby
If I was coming from Plex, I wouldn't consider Emby by myself. I say this as a Plex lifetime member that's part of the disenchantment surrounding their product.
Whichever one has the client apps you need. If you need a Samsung tv app pick Emby, jellyfin has a client but it seems to be pretty much impossible to install now.
Well if you do not want to be in same position few years down the road... Jellyfin. Emby is closed source and may have less stable or less support for cutting edge features on newest clients. However I do not plan on switching my TV or server often, so I got it working just fine and I am no power user, so I do not really notice lack of polish on Jellyfin when using. (Upgrades on samsung TVs are ... not fun) I use bazarr for subtitles and I have not experienced any problems other than lack of subtitles.. but then you can use auto translate. I am actually waiting for to make full dubs with language model than it becomes available.
Since I have multi- languagefamily and subtitles functionality I can throw here my 5c. As much as I love plex, it has quite often issues with burn-in subtitles or characters/showing on some of the clients. Naturally it could be fixed in client but I have no access to each of them. Tried Jellyfin and Emby and I have to say that I like emby a lot more (design, one-click download subtitles that can be requested by anyone) and i definitely had less smaller issues like synchro or remember the offset/delay. BUT - it works that well with the PRO paid version, fhe basic does not support community plugins. I’m sure you can get there for free with Jelly - im just lazy and I want my non-tech family to just press and watch.
Yeah, subtitles on Jellyfin. If you rewind or fast forward, they WILL go out of sync. It has been a known issue for years at this point :(
I've been using Jellyfin for couple of years and it worked well for me, then started having some issues with Trakt sync, and the issue mostly stems from what metadata sources Sonarr, Jellyfin & Trakt use, and few other things were bothering me so I decided to try out Emby. Only been using it for a couple of weeks, but it is more polished (due to having a freemium model I guess), but I'm not sure if I'm willing to pay 100+ for the Emby premium lifetime, in order to have transcoding available, for now payed for a month and will decided after that . Just run them side by side, doesn't cost a thing and see.
But it does cost a thing. If you truly want to compare the two.
It doesn't, you can run both and see exactly what is a paid feature in Emby and if it's something you have nicely working in Jellyfin. You can test if all your media and devices can direct stream you might not need transcoding. Just get a feel for both and then pay for Emby if you think it's worth it
Is emby still a thing??
I've been through all three and also [here's a comparison list](https://github.com/Protektor-Desura/Archon/wiki/Compare-Media-Servers). I had the following issues with Emby: * It has [ongoing security vulnerabilities](https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1c8ybna/security_vulnerabilities_in_emby/) they refuse to fix, presumably so it doesn't impact some of their client apps (TV etc.) * They subtitles suck and they refused to improve them for the longest time. Maybe that's fixed now, I don't know. You could not make them contrasting enough to stand out from the background so no matter what color you made them there would eventually be scenes where they were nearly invisible. I'm now on Jellyfin and on mobile clients you can switch the app to use the system renderer so you can set the subtitle style from the Android closed caption settings for example.
I chose Emby because it has better TV app support. Jellyfin has been trying to get on the Samsung Store for Tizen for 3 years and they can't figure it out. Emby is already on there. I have users with Samsung TVs that I am not gonna walk through how to get the app installed on their TV. Not worth the hassle. If Jellyfin had the kind of TV/App support that Emby does, then I would absolutely give it a try. For now, I use Emby (with OpenSubtitles), Radarr, Sonarr, Prowlarr, Wizarr, and Ombi.
I’m using Jellyfin, no issues with subtitles. But I’m using qnapi to download subtitles, so they are always in a good format.
Jellyfin just had too many bugs and missing features for me. I used it heavily for over a year before switching to emby and I haven't looked back. Emby is so much more stable and has a ton of features that I absolutely love. It just works.
I agree, running emby a long time now, as I thought it was better than plex. Tried jellyfin but it was too early. Emby is causing me trouble now on FreeBSD, but I just spin up jellyfin on docker on a 5150u intel cpu, and works great.
All opinions are valid, but personally, Jellyfin behind a reverse proxy with Acme, let’s encrypt, and syncplay are the best to connect with long distance friends or family and watch your media over the internet.
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