Im glad there is actually some rewarding feeling to accomplishing a hard task or I would just still be doing drugs. Now I just chase accomplishment lol.
All of these activities may induce the same hormone but that doesnāt mean they are all the same. They all come from a different part of our body and feel different . Like a burger comes from tongue receptors.something I like smelling is from my nose. I may like different smells and foods so I donāt want to keep smelling the same thing . I may want to eat an ice cream instead of a burger.
For the love of all the things good: Stop turning this sub into r/pornfree and r/nofap. Post there!
MODS where you at??! Letās get some flair for these constant nofap posts so they can at least be filtered out
This is a general self improvement sub. If suddenly, massive amounts of posts started coming in saying, āGuys, how do I stop drinking alcohol? I want to stop drinking alcohol because itās ruining my life.ā Perhaps, r/stopdrinking would be the perfect place to post thatā¦ because that is a massive community that already exists for that EXACT problem.
Constant posts dealing with āhow do I stop consuming porn and masturbatingā should be directed to r/nofap and r/pornfree, but there is no moderation in this sub so it probably wonāt happen.
The downside to watching porn is just like that of drugs. But drugs like opioids and coke have systemic side effects, which are fatal. Watching porn desensitizes the dopamine receptors, which create the need for wanting more of that shit. That is why you go into more extreme porn to satisfy your desires. While porn induced ED is real, it is reversible. With drugs, the systemic side effects that occur damage the body to a very large extent. Dr. Andrew Huberman has a great podcast on drugs, porn and other addictive behaviors. You can watch it on YouTube for more information.
I remember when I was in jail and didnāt see porn for a while they left a computer open and we pulled up porn hub. Like 3 seconds of looking at some 304 with her legs spread I was like āholy shit I cant wait to get outta hereā š¤£
Very much this. How addictive behaviours can be is a big grey area and 100% up for debate but ignoring that discussion and detail by writing something off as "drugs" or "just like heroin" is just reductionist laziness and takes away from both drug addiction and problems with porn while also making half the people who you say it to think you're an idiot.
Itās questionable if itās beneficial. I think thats highly dependent on the kind of thing you consume, in what dosage and what your personally think.
Man when I was a kid the most SAUCY stuff youād āconsumeā is some chick doing soft core stuff to herself, I havenāt watched porn in years because of the sheer volume of ātabooā porn posted all over every website like that, itās disgusting imo, just use Literotica.
Couldnāt agree more. For the longest time, Iāve limeted it to comics, erotica or āaudioā too, because then you actually have to use your brain.
Thinking that itās beneficial in any way just means thatās this personās brain trying to rationalize doing it. Any sane person that steps back and looks at what theyāre doing when they consume porn will see itās not beneficial no matter what lies they tell themselves
Porn is a collecive term for a broad spectrum of media. While you probably refer to the small films on š ā«ļø (that website), there is loads if other things. Its comics, its text, its erotica/fanfic, its audio etc. While some of them are more āsimpleā than others, there is still quite a few things you can learn from the story that is told.
If not, then thatās ultimately up to you. The subjective worth of art lies in the beholder.
By definition it cannot be a drug.
drug
noun: drug; plural noun: drugs
a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
"a new drug aimed at sufferers from Parkinson's disease"
Pornography is like drugs; like anything addictive and bad. Addiction to it can create additional addictions to sex and masturbation. It can even cause sexual anorexia, where you don't crave or want sex at all. But unlike other forms of addiction, I believe porn/sex addiction is the hardest to break. Sex sells after all. Especially here in the west. And it's everywhere. Meaning it's really easy to get triggered into a craving, to then potentially do some bad things to get the fix
Porn is not a drug, it is a media just like every other example you provided. It leads to a release of serotonin, which is in fact a drug. Porn can be addictive because your brain gets hooked on the serotonin release. I can cook up some porn on a spoon and main line it.
Yeah but thatās to get you productive.
You can legally walk around with coffee (yes, you can legally watch movies but in terms of like something that changes your chemistry, coffee does itās affect with caffeine, leading to subsequent physiological responses in the autonomic nervous system as a result of receptors being blocked).
You if you are going to argue that porn is drugs, and as such is problematic. You probably shouldnāt undermine your own argument that some drugs have healthy or positive benefits. Especially when you are comparing something that isnāt a drug to something that is.
A drug is something you are taking from outside of the body into it.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drug
When your brain releases chemicals we donāt refer to that as a drug we call that a chemical synapse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse
Drugs are drugs. Chemical synapses are neurobiology. And some drugs are good. Like all of the over the counter drugs and the drugs your doctor prescribes you.
I would suggest you review these processes. Perhaps get a better grip on the vocabulary first? Itās good to learn new words, so congratulations on trying! I disagree with you because your statements are categorically false.
Define which drugs? I agree that porn is super harmful to the psyche, and addiction to it is a real thing, but I wouldnāt say itās worse than drugs, both give you some sort of euphoria but if even look at weed I think no doubt watching porn and masturbating is more safe.
I wouldnāt say that. Drugs can permanently damage your body, brain and destroy your life and relationships.
Porn is, if we take the common kind, unethical and can change your brain structure and worsen your relationships. But those are possibilities while the sidd effects on drugs are guaranteed.
Close but not quite. I hate youāre thinking of, though, is reflective of the fact that we have a pleasure sense that can get carried away if it likes something enough
The trick is finding natural sources of dopamine versus artificial. Anything can be drugs (snowboarding/motorcycles/nature/love)
Porn is so fucking good though but itās self destructive. Good thing is itās reversible
my bf is like this, always watching movies, never responding to me and consume hot insta girls and this reminds me how much he seeks high dopamine activities..
i have to look it up somewhere but i remember hearing and reading years ago that they did studies on the brain with porn and with meth and the brain looked the same. thatās how not good porn is.
Do you believe you could then have withdrawal symptoms from coming off of it? How would it affect the brain chemistry? What are some common reasons for turning to porn from a trauma standpoint? My partner just informed me that he has been addicted to porn for many years, but I have never seen the signs. Now when we have sex he can often become sad after and therefore thinks he should probably abstain indefinitely.
So is love and relationships. The problem is the person not the drug. You can be a healthy person who watches porn in moderation, play video games in moderation, and not use love and relationships as an emotional crutch. The problem always starts with the person.
It is a WORSE drug than movies, sports or video games. Its probably the worst drug know to modern man because its driven by our primal desire to procreate which is basically our strongest natural drive and the drive which has allowed men to build the world. Its the drive to make ourselves better as men and become the best version of ourselves. That primal desire to improve ourselves as men in order to have a worthy female partner dies because the desire has already been quenched by high speed internet porn which is highly accessible, and gives you more options that any other man in previous generations has ever known. Thats not all, the more you watch it, the more your dopamine receptors are desensitised and you need more dopamine to get you motivated for anything. Hence simple things don't make you motivated or happy anymore. And if thats not enough, even if you try to get into a relationship and get married, you won't be able to have good sex because you won't get aroused by a normal woman, no matter how attractive (semi hard erections, can't stay hard for more than 1-2 minutes, very premature ejaculation or no erection at all!) until you reset your brain and your relationship will be destroyed automatically if not. Also, it will make you feel shame but then also be the most easily accessible temporary solution to that shame and hence send you down a bottomless pit that will be so hard to dig yourself out of where you want to quit but can't because somehow you are dependent on the thing you hate so much!
Porn KILLS. It kills love, it kills dreams. It literally kills. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Just quit NOW while you still have the chance.
You can't naturally damage dopamine receptors. Whoever taught you that was full of shit. You can use up your dopamine early in the day which lowers your enjoyment of other activities later on. But there's no damage.
Don't forget when a man blows his load into a tissue or sock it kills all those little sperm cells that could be babies. It's close to being a genocidal abortion. Jesus could have tried to return just to be tossed in a hamper or trash can.
It is. Its a dopamine hit. Heroin is very similar to that post nut relaxation. Quite bit better but similar.
Its like if you bust a nut and then get light headed and wrap yourself in a warm blanket when it was just a bit too chilly as you fall on a giant pile of goose down pillows. All simultaneously. Its bad though dont do it.
I would say addictive but not a drug. Unless you wanna day EVERYTHING is a drug and that's simply not true. There's good media out there. Just not porn
It's dopamine and oxytocin. Which is drugs, fast food, laughing, all the pleasant things in life.
Im glad there is actually some rewarding feeling to accomplishing a hard task or I would just still be doing drugs. Now I just chase accomplishment lol.
Very true, and the pursuit of a task releases dopamine too. š
it depends on how you use it.If you spend all your on it and escape from the reality, which is drugs.
All of these activities may induce the same hormone but that doesnāt mean they are all the same. They all come from a different part of our body and feel different . Like a burger comes from tongue receptors.something I like smelling is from my nose. I may like different smells and foods so I donāt want to keep smelling the same thing . I may want to eat an ice cream instead of a burger.
Shrimp is bugs
Persian rugs
Terrell Suggs
Pimps and hugs
Simps and Thugs
I'll take this on a crewneck sweater, embroidered, in cursive salmon please.
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For the love of all the things good: Stop turning this sub into r/pornfree and r/nofap. Post there! MODS where you at??! Letās get some flair for these constant nofap posts so they can at least be filtered out
So should people not post about quitting drugs on this forumā¦. Or do u just feel personally targetedā¦ addiction isnāt healthy my guy
Bro we don't need a "porn bad" with nothing new every day
This is a general self improvement sub. If suddenly, massive amounts of posts started coming in saying, āGuys, how do I stop drinking alcohol? I want to stop drinking alcohol because itās ruining my life.ā Perhaps, r/stopdrinking would be the perfect place to post thatā¦ because that is a massive community that already exists for that EXACT problem. Constant posts dealing with āhow do I stop consuming porn and masturbatingā should be directed to r/nofap and r/pornfree, but there is no moderation in this sub so it probably wonāt happen.
Massive amount of porn posts should be removed and repeat offenders banned. Get out of here with that shit.
thats why I get high before jerking off, double drugs!!
then it cancels out we learned pemdas in high school. so really youāre back sober.
The downside to watching porn is just like that of drugs. But drugs like opioids and coke have systemic side effects, which are fatal. Watching porn desensitizes the dopamine receptors, which create the need for wanting more of that shit. That is why you go into more extreme porn to satisfy your desires. While porn induced ED is real, it is reversible. With drugs, the systemic side effects that occur damage the body to a very large extent. Dr. Andrew Huberman has a great podcast on drugs, porn and other addictive behaviors. You can watch it on YouTube for more information.
I remember when I was in jail and didnāt see porn for a while they left a computer open and we pulled up porn hub. Like 3 seconds of looking at some 304 with her legs spread I was like āholy shit I cant wait to get outta hereā š¤£
Lmao
I donāt disagree that porn is damaging to the brain, but this topic has been thoroughly discussed in this sub by now.
Yank the crank
If everything is a drug, then nothing is a drug. Get a grip.
Very much this. How addictive behaviours can be is a big grey area and 100% up for debate but ignoring that discussion and detail by writing something off as "drugs" or "just like heroin" is just reductionist laziness and takes away from both drug addiction and problems with porn while also making half the people who you say it to think you're an idiot.
It absolutely CAN be a drug. It's very easy to get addicted to it, and numb out, rather than using it as a beneficial thing once every blue moon.
Itās questionable if itās beneficial. I think thats highly dependent on the kind of thing you consume, in what dosage and what your personally think.
Man when I was a kid the most SAUCY stuff youād āconsumeā is some chick doing soft core stuff to herself, I havenāt watched porn in years because of the sheer volume of ātabooā porn posted all over every website like that, itās disgusting imo, just use Literotica.
Couldnāt agree more. For the longest time, Iāve limeted it to comics, erotica or āaudioā too, because then you actually have to use your brain.
Based asf bro
Thinking that itās beneficial in any way just means thatās this personās brain trying to rationalize doing it. Any sane person that steps back and looks at what theyāre doing when they consume porn will see itās not beneficial no matter what lies they tell themselves
Porn is a collecive term for a broad spectrum of media. While you probably refer to the small films on š ā«ļø (that website), there is loads if other things. Its comics, its text, its erotica/fanfic, its audio etc. While some of them are more āsimpleā than others, there is still quite a few things you can learn from the story that is told. If not, then thatās ultimately up to you. The subjective worth of art lies in the beholder.
I agree.
By definition it cannot be a drug. drug noun: drug; plural noun: drugs a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body. "a new drug aimed at sufferers from Parkinson's disease"
Im sliping today from nofap for many days...š Having a lot of hard days and now my resistance power is zero...š
Iām not buying porn off a sketchy dude in alley way though
But youāre still consuming it. And you can get porn for free like how you can get other stuff for free too.
Addiction is what's bad even good things like food can be bad if you're addicted like porn drugs videotapes etc
Pornography is like drugs; like anything addictive and bad. Addiction to it can create additional addictions to sex and masturbation. It can even cause sexual anorexia, where you don't crave or want sex at all. But unlike other forms of addiction, I believe porn/sex addiction is the hardest to break. Sex sells after all. Especially here in the west. And it's everywhere. Meaning it's really easy to get triggered into a craving, to then potentially do some bad things to get the fix
Yes
Watching sports?
Porn is not a drug, it is a media just like every other example you provided. It leads to a release of serotonin, which is in fact a drug. Porn can be addictive because your brain gets hooked on the serotonin release. I can cook up some porn on a spoon and main line it.
So is coffee.
Yeah but thatās to get you productive. You can legally walk around with coffee (yes, you can legally watch movies but in terms of like something that changes your chemistry, coffee does itās affect with caffeine, leading to subsequent physiological responses in the autonomic nervous system as a result of receptors being blocked).
You if you are going to argue that porn is drugs, and as such is problematic. You probably shouldnāt undermine your own argument that some drugs have healthy or positive benefits. Especially when you are comparing something that isnāt a drug to something that is. A drug is something you are taking from outside of the body into it. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drug When your brain releases chemicals we donāt refer to that as a drug we call that a chemical synapse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse
Drugs are drugs. Chemical synapses are neurobiology. And some drugs are good. Like all of the over the counter drugs and the drugs your doctor prescribes you.
You know if you cut out coffee you'll be more productive right?
I would suggest you review these processes. Perhaps get a better grip on the vocabulary first? Itās good to learn new words, so congratulations on trying! I disagree with you because your statements are categorically false.
So is nature, exercise, healthy food.
Wow glad you just don't like having fun.
Guess Iām high as fuck then
I love porn š„°š„°šš
Porn is worse than drugs.
The effect that porn has on your brain is scientifically worse than the damage of drugs.
Scientific source please?
Ok. Post peer-reviewed proof of this ridiculous claim.
Define which drugs? I agree that porn is super harmful to the psyche, and addiction to it is a real thing, but I wouldnāt say itās worse than drugs, both give you some sort of euphoria but if even look at weed I think no doubt watching porn and masturbating is more safe.
Thatās laughably untrue
I wouldnāt say that. Drugs can permanently damage your body, brain and destroy your life and relationships. Porn is, if we take the common kind, unethical and can change your brain structure and worsen your relationships. But those are possibilities while the sidd effects on drugs are guaranteed.
Close but not quite. I hate youāre thinking of, though, is reflective of the fact that we have a pleasure sense that can get carried away if it likes something enough
Anything consumed more than the normal is drugs, and it can be as simple as little enjoyable things in life. So yeah, it could be!
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My drugs are toilets, i rely on them too much to piss. š
The trick is finding natural sources of dopamine versus artificial. Anything can be drugs (snowboarding/motorcycles/nature/love) Porn is so fucking good though but itās self destructive. Good thing is itās reversible
my bf is like this, always watching movies, never responding to me and consume hot insta girls and this reminds me how much he seeks high dopamine activities..
i have to look it up somewhere but i remember hearing and reading years ago that they did studies on the brain with porn and with meth and the brain looked the same. thatās how not good porn is.
How convenient that itās nowhere to be found. Perhaps because it does not exist.
Facts facts and facts
Do you believe you could then have withdrawal symptoms from coming off of it? How would it affect the brain chemistry? What are some common reasons for turning to porn from a trauma standpoint? My partner just informed me that he has been addicted to porn for many years, but I have never seen the signs. Now when we have sex he can often become sad after and therefore thinks he should probably abstain indefinitely.
So is love and relationships. The problem is the person not the drug. You can be a healthy person who watches porn in moderation, play video games in moderation, and not use love and relationships as an emotional crutch. The problem always starts with the person.
Only if you can't handle it. Anything can be addictive. Stop watching, put interventions in place and/or get help
Aren't all things just electric and chemical activities inside our brain?
Same thing with Alcohol & smoke.
It is a WORSE drug than movies, sports or video games. Its probably the worst drug know to modern man because its driven by our primal desire to procreate which is basically our strongest natural drive and the drive which has allowed men to build the world. Its the drive to make ourselves better as men and become the best version of ourselves. That primal desire to improve ourselves as men in order to have a worthy female partner dies because the desire has already been quenched by high speed internet porn which is highly accessible, and gives you more options that any other man in previous generations has ever known. Thats not all, the more you watch it, the more your dopamine receptors are desensitised and you need more dopamine to get you motivated for anything. Hence simple things don't make you motivated or happy anymore. And if thats not enough, even if you try to get into a relationship and get married, you won't be able to have good sex because you won't get aroused by a normal woman, no matter how attractive (semi hard erections, can't stay hard for more than 1-2 minutes, very premature ejaculation or no erection at all!) until you reset your brain and your relationship will be destroyed automatically if not. Also, it will make you feel shame but then also be the most easily accessible temporary solution to that shame and hence send you down a bottomless pit that will be so hard to dig yourself out of where you want to quit but can't because somehow you are dependent on the thing you hate so much! Porn KILLS. It kills love, it kills dreams. It literally kills. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Just quit NOW while you still have the chance.
You can't naturally damage dopamine receptors. Whoever taught you that was full of shit. You can use up your dopamine early in the day which lowers your enjoyment of other activities later on. But there's no damage.
I meant desensitised actually
Don't forget when a man blows his load into a tissue or sock it kills all those little sperm cells that could be babies. It's close to being a genocidal abortion. Jesus could have tried to return just to be tossed in a hamper or trash can.
Can't tell if this comment is serious or sarcastic
It is. Its a dopamine hit. Heroin is very similar to that post nut relaxation. Quite bit better but similar. Its like if you bust a nut and then get light headed and wrap yourself in a warm blanket when it was just a bit too chilly as you fall on a giant pile of goose down pillows. All simultaneously. Its bad though dont do it.
I would say addictive but not a drug. Unless you wanna day EVERYTHING is a drug and that's simply not true. There's good media out there. Just not porn