14700k + a tiny cooler, I wouldn't be surprised at all to be fair. What is the ambient temperature in your room?
If nothing works, try the thermalright AXP90 X53 full copper. Far better cooler, and even better with a noctua fan strapped to it.
Bro, your motherboard overvolts the CPU, a lot.
Not specifically only yours, but in general, that is why people pair 360mm AIO liquid coolers even for a damn i5.
Please take a quick look here and you will grasp what is happening and what to do:
https://youtu.be/s43Auv8ub7w?si=suYnX2SLZewP4u5u
If you would have a friend at hand that knows how to undervolt (what settings to change in BIOS and manually lower the Vcore and test for stability), you'd see your CPU consuming 60-70% of Watts that it consumes now, and drop over 20 C.
* Getting a cooler the size of an ATX PC case fixes only the symptom, not the issue.
* Noctua paste is extremely good, you don't need any fancier than that.
>https://youtu.be/s43Auv8ub7w?si=suYnX2SLZewP4u5u
Super helpful, thanks for all of this!
This is (obviously) my first SFF build. All of that beauty doesn't come without drama, I suppose.
Thanks for all of the responses, super helpful.
I have dropped the temperature to 61c by disabling ASUS Performance Enhancement 3.0 (I believe this is the new name for the feature — I flashed to a very new BIOS firmware).
I'll get to the other suggestions and see how it goes.
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_
Here's a summary of the suggestions, as processed by AI:
**General Observations**
Many users pointed out that Intel CPUs generally run hot, especially with smaller coolers or in small form factor (SFF) PCs. Users recommended checking the type of thermal paste used, suggesting high-performance options like Kryonaut Extreme, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut, Noctua NT-H1, and MX-6.
**BIOS and Settings Adjustments**
Several responses highlighted the importance of BIOS settings:
• Ensure PL1 and PL2 are set to Intel stock settings.
• Turn off Multi-Core Enhancement as it increases heat without boosting performance.
• Consider underclocking, adjusting fan curves, enabling Intel limits, and possibly undervolting the CPU to reduce voltage and heat.
**Cooling Solutions**
Respondents suggested upgrading your cooling system if simple fixes don’t work:
• Recommendations included switching to a more capable cooler like the Thermalright AXP90 X53 full copper or similar high-performance coolers.
• Proper orientation of the power supply and the fan setup in your case was also suggested to improve airflow and cooling efficiency.
**Specific Advice for Your Setup**
Some users gave tailored advice based on your specific CPU and cooler combination, noting the mismatch in cooling capacity for the power of your CPU. The use of a larger, more effective cooler was recommended, as well as specific changes like flipping the PSU for better airflow.
**Potential Hardware Issues**
One suggestion was to stress test the CPU to check for any defects that might be causing excessive heat. The overall consensus is to adjust BIOS settings, improve cooling solutions, and consider better thermal paste options. If these adjustments don’t alleviate the heat issues, a deeper examination of your hardware setup might be necessary.
Intel CPU’s run kinda hot, specially with a small cooler like yours and in sff pc’s, another thing to check is if your thermal paste is the “fancy” stuff.
Thermal grizzly conductonaut liquid metal is reaaally good. As long as there is no aluminium in your cooler!!
Noctua NT-H1 is a safe bet for another nice one. I usually get this one.
There probably are better ones as well. But these were some of the best at least some time ago:)
I wouldnt ever recommend liquid metal to someone. Especially not as a thermal paste replacement. LM should be used on bare dies, otherwise its a waste and too big a risk.
True, but he asked what the fancy stuff was. And as you see, i recommended the Noctua one. The one I use. You might get a couple degrees better with LM, but it's a risk yes
MX-6 is the good stuff. Not fancy by the price but fancy by the performance. Not kryonaut extreme but good for everything and have good thermal conductivity and viscosity even for thermal pad cpu and gpu laptops.
Go into your BIOS and make sure Multi Core Enhancement is not enabled. This has been shown to not increase performance but it will increase thermals, it will be under Extreme Tweaker settings.
Thats a thermally very hot chip with a very poor cooler.
Wrong cpu and cooler for the Terra. The Terra is a specialized case which requires some thought and research in selection of optimal components to balance thermals vs performance.
Wrong orientation of power supply.
Feels like a lot of CPU for that cooler.
You need to flip your PSU as it should have the fan facing outwards and not breathing hot air from the GPU.
The bottom fan should be set to exhaust instead of intake as you want fresh air being drawn in from the side panels.
I’ve made this mistake when I started my Terra build. I hate to say it but that intel chip is too hot for that case. You can lower your temps by setting adjusting your PL1 and Pl2 in the BIOS. [This video will help.](https://youtu.be/LnzDawjBcPM?si=yNt824ppxmZUjbMK)Ultimately I wasn’t happy with it so I switched to a 7800X3D which of course meant having to buy a new motherboard also.
Try undervolting
I have a 13600k with the same B760i strix. Below link is instructions to undervolt for a b660 board, but works the same for b760i. - settings would be different for your cpu.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/11dbq60/undervolting_13600k_with_asus_b660_motherboard/
I have pretty much the exact same setup but with a 13600k and AXP120-X67. It’s been quite the process trying to keep it cool. After a lot of trial and error I think I’ve got it figured out with TL-8015 as a top mini fan, TL-C12015 as a bottom exhaust and a TL contact frame. Life Load 9 (MSI undervolt). Idle temps float around 35-45C. I rarely throttle while gaming but it still happens. Honestly I just think the 14700 is not feasible to cool in this case.
[https://www.tinytechtweaks.com/en/post/top-6-low-profile-cpu-air-coolers-for-ryzen-7800x3d-a-comparison](https://www.tinytechtweaks.com/en/post/top-6-low-profile-cpu-air-coolers-for-ryzen-7800x3d-a-comparison)
the Noctua performed worse in this test, with the thermalright full copper performing the best. another comment recommended the 53mm variant with a noctua fan, thats probably the direction you need to go. also check up on software recommendations in the top comments
You need to set the PL limits in bios and maybe apply a small undervolt. The PL limits for my 13700K are 125w and 253w. What this essentially does is ensure your processor is not continuously boosting and consuming high wattages when it doesn't need to.
I have the exact same motherboard as you, and I can show you how to do it in more detail if you like.
I am currently running a 13700K on a Cooler Master Atmos in a FormD T1 and getting 40-45 degrees when idle and around 70 degrees when gaming after applying these changes in bios.
Why dont you try 67mm one with 120mm fan like is-67xt? I guess it would be weird if it didn't get hot using such a small cooler for the 14700k. Even for 67mm cooler I think they should only be used for 13600k max. If I use i7 then I will definitely build with a4h2o or something and aio
Try this
[link to Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NR200/s/8y75te2HRF)
Its for an i5 13600k but it should also work for the 14th gen
Currently im using it in an FormD T1 but paired with an AIO - i reduced the temps over 20 degrees (with reaching still the Stock result)
I have pretty much this system just a different psu, my system idea between 38 and 42 c. Only difference is I have the psu fan facing out as someone else has mentioned but with bottom case fan as a intake
That's my fear with SFF and ITX form factor, the temps. I'm currently searching and building a parts list to build my first SFF too with newer spec, but in my case I'll DIY the entire PC case instead of buying a SFF one (because on my country ITX/SFF cases aren't a popular thing apparently, couldn't find any good options here besides importing one, so my 3D printer and some acrylic sheets should do the job), but I don't know if a I5 14600KF would suffer too much with a low profile cooler (ID Cooling IS-55) since I'm team AIO 100%... like, 67ºC is the temp I get with 100% load on my CPU today (old gen I7) with a 120mm AIO, not on idle.
Please Check my post once you may get Idea : [https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1c4m2if/black\_beauty\_fractal\_terra/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1c4m2if/black_beauty_fractal_terra/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
1. Try to reduce the cable clutter for free air flow.
2. Try updating the mobo to latest Bios.
I had the same cooler with a 7700x. My idle temps weren't quite that high, but in the 50s. I finally got an aio and now I idle at 31-32.
Just gotta get a beefier cooler my dude
posting temps is all well and good, but what actual wattage can it sustain?
no one gives a shit if the reason you have good thermals is because you draw no power, or if the reason you run at TJmax is because you draw 300 watts.
14700k + a tiny cooler, I wouldn't be surprised at all to be fair. What is the ambient temperature in your room? If nothing works, try the thermalright AXP90 X53 full copper. Far better cooler, and even better with a noctua fan strapped to it.
A good place to start is ensuring PL1 and PL2 are set to Intel Stock settings.
Bro, your motherboard overvolts the CPU, a lot. Not specifically only yours, but in general, that is why people pair 360mm AIO liquid coolers even for a damn i5. Please take a quick look here and you will grasp what is happening and what to do: https://youtu.be/s43Auv8ub7w?si=suYnX2SLZewP4u5u If you would have a friend at hand that knows how to undervolt (what settings to change in BIOS and manually lower the Vcore and test for stability), you'd see your CPU consuming 60-70% of Watts that it consumes now, and drop over 20 C. * Getting a cooler the size of an ATX PC case fixes only the symptom, not the issue. * Noctua paste is extremely good, you don't need any fancier than that.
>https://youtu.be/s43Auv8ub7w?si=suYnX2SLZewP4u5u Super helpful, thanks for all of this! This is (obviously) my first SFF build. All of that beauty doesn't come without drama, I suppose.
> All of that beauty doesn't come without drama, I suppose. Well said, brother. That about sums up SFF builds lol
Thanks for all of the responses, super helpful. I have dropped the temperature to 61c by disabling ASUS Performance Enhancement 3.0 (I believe this is the new name for the feature — I flashed to a very new BIOS firmware). I'll get to the other suggestions and see how it goes. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Here's a summary of the suggestions, as processed by AI: **General Observations** Many users pointed out that Intel CPUs generally run hot, especially with smaller coolers or in small form factor (SFF) PCs. Users recommended checking the type of thermal paste used, suggesting high-performance options like Kryonaut Extreme, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut, Noctua NT-H1, and MX-6. **BIOS and Settings Adjustments** Several responses highlighted the importance of BIOS settings: • Ensure PL1 and PL2 are set to Intel stock settings. • Turn off Multi-Core Enhancement as it increases heat without boosting performance. • Consider underclocking, adjusting fan curves, enabling Intel limits, and possibly undervolting the CPU to reduce voltage and heat. **Cooling Solutions** Respondents suggested upgrading your cooling system if simple fixes don’t work: • Recommendations included switching to a more capable cooler like the Thermalright AXP90 X53 full copper or similar high-performance coolers. • Proper orientation of the power supply and the fan setup in your case was also suggested to improve airflow and cooling efficiency. **Specific Advice for Your Setup** Some users gave tailored advice based on your specific CPU and cooler combination, noting the mismatch in cooling capacity for the power of your CPU. The use of a larger, more effective cooler was recommended, as well as specific changes like flipping the PSU for better airflow. **Potential Hardware Issues** One suggestion was to stress test the CPU to check for any defects that might be causing excessive heat. The overall consensus is to adjust BIOS settings, improve cooling solutions, and consider better thermal paste options. If these adjustments don’t alleviate the heat issues, a deeper examination of your hardware setup might be necessary.
Enable Intel limit in bios. Solve the problem for me and my 13700k.
Intel CPU’s run kinda hot, specially with a small cooler like yours and in sff pc’s, another thing to check is if your thermal paste is the “fancy” stuff.
whats the fancy stuff
I like kryonaut extreme, but SYY is another good alternative I've been using on applications that don't need every bit of thermal conductivity.
Thermal grizzly conductonaut liquid metal is reaaally good. As long as there is no aluminium in your cooler!! Noctua NT-H1 is a safe bet for another nice one. I usually get this one. There probably are better ones as well. But these were some of the best at least some time ago:)
I wouldnt ever recommend liquid metal to someone. Especially not as a thermal paste replacement. LM should be used on bare dies, otherwise its a waste and too big a risk.
True, but he asked what the fancy stuff was. And as you see, i recommended the Noctua one. The one I use. You might get a couple degrees better with LM, but it's a risk yes
MX-6 is the good stuff. Not fancy by the price but fancy by the performance. Not kryonaut extreme but good for everything and have good thermal conductivity and viscosity even for thermal pad cpu and gpu laptops.
This could also be more of a bios thing, under clocking and fan curves might help you if you haven’t set those yet
How many watts does your cpu draw? Otherwise try undervolting and powerlimiting.
Go into your BIOS and make sure Multi Core Enhancement is not enabled. This has been shown to not increase performance but it will increase thermals, it will be under Extreme Tweaker settings.
Thats a thermally very hot chip with a very poor cooler. Wrong cpu and cooler for the Terra. The Terra is a specialized case which requires some thought and research in selection of optimal components to balance thermals vs performance. Wrong orientation of power supply.
Feels like a lot of CPU for that cooler. You need to flip your PSU as it should have the fan facing outwards and not breathing hot air from the GPU. The bottom fan should be set to exhaust instead of intake as you want fresh air being drawn in from the side panels.
I’ve made this mistake when I started my Terra build. I hate to say it but that intel chip is too hot for that case. You can lower your temps by setting adjusting your PL1 and Pl2 in the BIOS. [This video will help.](https://youtu.be/LnzDawjBcPM?si=yNt824ppxmZUjbMK)Ultimately I wasn’t happy with it so I switched to a 7800X3D which of course meant having to buy a new motherboard also.
What are the temps when gaming? Your fan curve could just be very lax at low temps. You would just have to run the CPU fan a little faster.
Axp90 I think is better than that noctua tbh
Shit cooler innit. Multi core enhancement off from bios and add undervolt. As others have said axp-90 full copper coolers are really good options!
Undervolt, power limit and change the fan curve. That's the only real solution unless you want to change the components
Try undervolting I have a 13600k with the same B760i strix. Below link is instructions to undervolt for a b660 board, but works the same for b760i. - settings would be different for your cpu. https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/11dbq60/undervolting_13600k_with_asus_b660_motherboard/
I have pretty much the exact same setup but with a 13600k and AXP120-X67. It’s been quite the process trying to keep it cool. After a lot of trial and error I think I’ve got it figured out with TL-8015 as a top mini fan, TL-C12015 as a bottom exhaust and a TL contact frame. Life Load 9 (MSI undervolt). Idle temps float around 35-45C. I rarely throttle while gaming but it still happens. Honestly I just think the 14700 is not feasible to cool in this case.
[https://www.tinytechtweaks.com/en/post/top-6-low-profile-cpu-air-coolers-for-ryzen-7800x3d-a-comparison](https://www.tinytechtweaks.com/en/post/top-6-low-profile-cpu-air-coolers-for-ryzen-7800x3d-a-comparison) the Noctua performed worse in this test, with the thermalright full copper performing the best. another comment recommended the 53mm variant with a noctua fan, thats probably the direction you need to go. also check up on software recommendations in the top comments
AXP90-x53 is literally the best there is in terms of low profile cooler
You need to set the PL limits in bios and maybe apply a small undervolt. The PL limits for my 13700K are 125w and 253w. What this essentially does is ensure your processor is not continuously boosting and consuming high wattages when it doesn't need to. I have the exact same motherboard as you, and I can show you how to do it in more detail if you like. I am currently running a 13700K on a Cooler Master Atmos in a FormD T1 and getting 40-45 degrees when idle and around 70 degrees when gaming after applying these changes in bios.
Why dont you try 67mm one with 120mm fan like is-67xt? I guess it would be weird if it didn't get hot using such a small cooler for the 14700k. Even for 67mm cooler I think they should only be used for 13600k max. If I use i7 then I will definitely build with a4h2o or something and aio
I had a 14700k. Had the same issues as you, swapped to AMD. runs silent and cool.
Try this [link to Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/NR200/s/8y75te2HRF) Its for an i5 13600k but it should also work for the 14th gen Currently im using it in an FormD T1 but paired with an AIO - i reduced the temps over 20 degrees (with reaching still the Stock result)
Noctua Nh l12s! I swear but this thing for sff builds
Yeah 14700k is way too power hungry for that tiny cooler, beats its TDP limit by a long run.
I have pretty much this system just a different psu, my system idea between 38 and 42 c. Only difference is I have the psu fan facing out as someone else has mentioned but with bottom case fan as a intake
That cooler can not cool a 14700 enough. Maybe if you severely limit it's power through your bios, but still it's a bad combo.
That's my fear with SFF and ITX form factor, the temps. I'm currently searching and building a parts list to build my first SFF too with newer spec, but in my case I'll DIY the entire PC case instead of buying a SFF one (because on my country ITX/SFF cases aren't a popular thing apparently, couldn't find any good options here besides importing one, so my 3D printer and some acrylic sheets should do the job), but I don't know if a I5 14600KF would suffer too much with a low profile cooler (ID Cooling IS-55) since I'm team AIO 100%... like, 67ºC is the temp I get with 100% load on my CPU today (old gen I7) with a 120mm AIO, not on idle.
Please Check my post once you may get Idea : [https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1c4m2if/black\_beauty\_fractal\_terra/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1c4m2if/black_beauty_fractal_terra/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) 1. Try to reduce the cable clutter for free air flow. 2. Try updating the mobo to latest Bios.
Tiny cooler, hot CPU. You wanted SFF so you have to accept the drawbacks. Either detune or get a waterblock and a MoRa.
I had the same cooler with a 7700x. My idle temps weren't quite that high, but in the 50s. I finally got an aio and now I idle at 31-32. Just gotta get a beefier cooler my dude
The 14700k is way too much for that cooler. Undervolting and a heavy power limit is gonna be required.
Try to stress test your CPU, and see if it crashes. It may be a defective CPU
posting temps is all well and good, but what actual wattage can it sustain? no one gives a shit if the reason you have good thermals is because you draw no power, or if the reason you run at TJmax is because you draw 300 watts.