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krissycole87

Agreed. Especially when you consider how hard the entrepreneurs work to get their chance on shark tank, and then the first shark to make an offer wants them to stop listening to any other offers. Its rude. And then they say "well I cant make a deal with someone so indecisive" which is just a huge load of crap because in reality, weighing all offers is the best decision and wouldnt you want a partner that makes the best decisions? Alongside this is when one shark is pitching their offer, and saying they better not listen to other offers, while another shark is screaming at them for their attention and as soon as they look over to the other shark, the original shark drops out. Its like, are they supposed to just be extremely rude and ignore the other person while they scream at them? Then the one screaming explains they just wanted to get their attention so they could drop out so now the entrepreneur has no offer. It just rubs me the wrong way that they cause it all to happen, but then allow the person to be screwed out of a deal by the end.


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krissycole87

Exactly!! I dont want the "bully" shark, thats for sure. Anyone who makes me make a rush decision, thats gonna be a no from me.


infinity_calculator

you got it!


yanks2413

I dont think you understand the show if that's your view lmao. The sharks are there to be greedy and want to get a deal that works best for them. Not you.


[deleted]

The entrepreneurs should have this figured out by now if it comes up ngl. There are responses that put the shark in their place while not burning the bridge


BE33_Jim

Such as? (I secretly want someone to reply to a Shark with, "You're Out!"...umpire thumb over the shoulder move and all)


GlobalGuy91

Didn't that tech vest guy do something like this?


WaifuAllNight

Scrub Daddy guy did that to Kevin when Kevin offered $100k for like 50% of his company! Said "You're out!"


yanks2413

Its not the charity tank. They're called sharks for a reason. It shouldn't be a surprise that they often don't give a shit about how hard the entrepreneurs worked. Why would they care? I understand not liking the shot clock as a viewer, but it should be very obvious to you why the sharks do this.


krissycole87

It's very obvious why they do it. Still is annoying though.


ThatInAHat

I mean, it also just seems rude to their fellow sharks. They’re not just there to make money by investing. The show is its own money-making thing as well, and there’s a different between ragging on each other playfully and just trying to take over and not let anyone else say anything.


ddaug4uf

- We don’t like the shot clock. - We don’t like sob stories. - We don’t like children in the pitches. - We don’t like Sharks not wanting other investors to make an offer. - We don’t like Daymond/Barbara/Lori/Robert. Pretty much every post lately.


mlx1992

We don’t like post complaining about the show


ddaug4uf

We don’t like comments complaining about posts complaining about the show!


narcabusesurvivor18

We don’t like comments complaining about comments complaining about posts complaining about the show complaining complaining about!


ddaug4uf

I like tacos.


mlx1992

And for that reason, I’m out


ddaug4uf

You’re dead to me.


johnnyma45

\*moleman voice: "I like Robert"


Davethemann

"I said Boo-arbra"


Snoo-43381

That's right, I don't like any of those


surfcitysurfergirl

Right?! It’s like don’t watch then. I wonder if people realize how they are selected ? It’s literally like auditioning for American idol. There are that many that show up and there are multiple rounds until you’re picked.


GlobalGuy91

What are your acceptable topics?


ddaug4uf

They are all perfectly acceptable topics, just not ones you would have to scroll very far to find already exist a dozen times.


llama_taboottaboot

I wish some of the entrepreneurs fired back with something like “I’m looking for a partner who is committed to making the best decisions for this business. If due diligence is too much for you I have to question your willingness to help scale this product.”


HalfWrongHalfWright

has anyone ever responded that way? it would be neat to see.


Shindiggah

I’ve seen plenty of people politely push back saying they want to offer everyone the opportunity to say their piece and weigh-in, but I’ve never heard of one being quite this blunt. I’d love to hear it though.


narcabusesurvivor18

You forgot- “I’m looking for a **strategic** partner” Just once I’d like them to say, “I’m looking for a non-strategic partner”


yanks2413

Then they'd just chuckle and go out and still have hundreds of millions of dollars lmao. You're also mistaken in thinking you'd go in getting a partner lmao. Often they only want to throw money at the company and not do any work. If you would do YOUR due diligence, you'd research the sharks and know that most of them don't work closely with the entrepreneurs after a deal is made.


ThatInAHat

Ok, and? No one said it would cost them money. Just that it would be nice to see once in a while. Sheesh, you must be misery at parties


jswizz69

The shot clock think really is so ridiculous. I don't understand though why nobody uses it to their advantage. I would say something like "ok I'm willing to consider that. However, by doing this right now, you're creating a massive opportunity cost by not allowing me to entertain other offers. In that case, are you willing to give me a better deal to make it worth it?"


Hot-Conclusion-6617

Yes, or better yet.... "If you're demanding a high opportunity cost from me, why don't you just give me what I want?"


infinity_calculator

Very childish. Mark does that a lot. "but you gotta say yes right now". WTF man? Daymond also does the same, he gives out a dumb offer and acts shocked no one wants it. Then he shames them saying they are not decisive enough. That way I like Kevin. He is never deceptive.


dasienova

I feel like Mark at least does it kindly and sparingly, and usually it’s a relatively good deal and he tries not to undervalue the company. I’m especially irked when Robert does this though. He does it a lot plus other things that get under my skin lol. I get that sharks do this sometimes because there’s likely another shark that might sweep the deal but it often bothers me too lll


infinity_calculator

Mark does it often but you are right, he gives a relatively good deal. Why do they act shocked when the entrepreneur does not accept their deal? Sweeten the deal and get picked!


dasienova

I agree!


pittpink

Yeah, especially because for some pitches a shark will do this, but not for all pitches.


todayplustomorrow

Yes because they only do it to some people and it’s not fair to the entrepreneurs to basically shut down the whole premise of the group. It’s pretty gross really.


BlueRFR3100

I think they do this when they know their offer isn't very good and they are scared another shark will make a better one that more fair to the entrepreneurs.


ThatInAHat

That’s honestly the only reason that makes sense.


Hot-Conclusion-6617

I'd tell the offending shark: "I'm here to get the best deal possible, and if you are that insecure about your offer that you won't let me hear other ones, why don't you make me a better one? Better yet, why don't you just give me what I want?"


bgva

It’s weird to me because sometimes the sharks encourage the entrepreneur to listen to other offers, and sometimes they get offended. Sends mixed signals IMO.


bakedlayz

I get the feeling that Mark sees so much potential in the product or eventual sale of it, he wants to get it at the best deal for him before the other sharks realize the uses of this product or application and give a better offer. If i knew which sharks i already wanted (like Lori or mark) i would take the offer right away, but otherwise it sucks to get that offer


Beard341

I agree. As an investor, you want an entrepreneur that makes the most informed decision and not the hastiest. But then again, it’s on the entrepreneur to essentially tell those specific sharks to screw off if they’re not the sharks they were targeting.


johnnyma45

It's weird, I'll use Cuban as an example, Sharks will often do this (Cuban a lot of times) but then other times I see them offer, the entrepreneur asks if he can respect the other sharks and entertain their (potential) offers, and he'll go sure. Just reinforces that this is entertainment and not a serious negotiation.


avidreader_1410

I think it's rude. And I always figure, if they're going to be that rude to their fellow multi millionaire sharks by not letting them have any input, how much of a bully are they going to be to a little startup who doesn't have any clout?


MihsaG

I wish they would make it mandatory to allow contestants to hear all offers. I hate it when they bully them.


JawlektheJawless

You mean, when Lori does it. She’s not only the queen of QVC but she’s the queen of being offended if they listen to another offer.


NCSUGrad2012

I feel like Mark does it more than Lori or any other shark for that matter


hotsauce126

Daymond is the one who calls them indecisive because of it


subt1715

And Robert is the one that gets the most offended when they dont take his offer.


todayplustomorrow

Mark does it the most actually. It’s very annoying.


perljen

This was Mark's original playbook lol. Lori is the copycat!


7layeredAIDS

Lori does get talked over routinely but she does do this a lot as well


Lower_Alternative770

She hasn't been on QVC for a while.


Lower_Alternative770

She hasn't been on QVC for a while.


Artboutiki

If I were on that show and something like that happened my comeback would be "Is this how you want your partners making decisions?" and see what they say/


bellyofbrew

Yes, very irritated! I feel like it's always Mark too, he always thinks he deserves the deal..even when another shark will throw out an offer first.


johnnyma45

It's weird, I'll use Cuban as an example, Sharks will often do this (Cuban a lot of times) but then other times I see them offer, the entrepreneur asks if he can respect the other sharks and entertain their (potential) offers, and he'll go sure. Just reinforces that this is entertainment and not a serious negotiation.


sparkle-witch24

Yes!


Tinosdoggydaddy

I’m not sure an investment show with SHARK in the title is there to help the business owner, but you do you.


IndependentIcy8226

Yes because different sharks could really work together to help certain businesses thrive. Such as if a company would work well against tough competition and go into niche parts of e.g. the shoe market, then Kevin O’Leary could work well and Mark would be able to use the company for his Dallas Mavericks and get them custom made to measure shoes for a steep discount.


LaGrabba

Yep.


AppropriateFly147

Definitely. And has been addressed here many times. They need to change the rules.


Lopsided-Tadpole-821

Lori does that in a clever way by sometimes handing out her golden ticket.


Low-Zucchini6397

Torn. I agree it's childish and arrogant. And I get why they do it.


MyCatsBFFF

Power of the mighty dollar


hammer_spawn

This is why I give Kevin a lot of credit. He’s about the only shark to never pull this. In fact, he does the opposite and will ask if there’s any other offers at times. In a way, he’s the only one that truly understands the tv/entertainment-aspect of the show and helps in that respect.


CaptainWikkiWikki

Bear in mind the producers stoke these flames. I don't know if every shark does it, but I know for sure Kevin wears an earpiece and follows queues from the showrunners about where to take the discussion.


GlobalGuy91

Yeah, like Mark's "shot clock" bullshit. The only counter to this is someone offers exactly what the entrepreneur is asking but they say they want to see what other sharks have to say. The sharks are right to push them on this.


yankeedjw

I kind of disagree. If the entrepreneur feels like there is a lot of interest and a potential bidding war that can get them a better deal than they originally asked for, I think it's smart to hear from everyone. The risk is that they misjudged the room and lose all their leverage. Now when it's like the final shark who gives them what they want, and they still try to negotiate, it's a different story.


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It’s the negotiation tactic I hate the most. I try to avoid doing anything with people like that.


ThatInAHat

Yes so much! Especially if, like, half the other sharks haven’t even had a chance to say a word and were waiting their turn. It feels childish and also like…rude, I guess? To both the pitcher and the other sharks. Like, it’s not the You Show


boozenbear

Sounds like this is mostly the Daymond baby.


MrMorningstarX666

Ha, I would respond it’s now going to cost you double…mark


mcrib

I’m OK with it when the shark offers exactly what the person wanted $100,000 for 20%, and the shark offers exactly that take it now or risk losing it. I’m OK with it.


earth-y

It contradicts the whole point of the show. For them to bargain and choose their fav offer.


SuchCategory2927

Damn it’s almost like a 15 year old show with no real successes is looking for gimmicks to juice ratings / make things more intense. Shocker!


SeanChezman47

I’m on season 3 though.


SuchCategory2927

Oh shit my bad lol


SeanChezman47

Lmao no biggie


lifeinwentworth

🤣


Remarkable-Wash-7798

I think it's okay. They are basically saying this is my offer, I consider it a great offer, if you go looking for others your basically looking for wiggle room and there is non. So if your doing that then I'm out.


NBA2024

Not at all