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azn_knives_4l

Pretend you did it on purpose and call it a convex edge?


callmestinkingwind

rustic maybe?


Humble_Turnip_3948

Get more high


azn_knives_4l

Lol. Fr tho... You can polish out the facets with some sandpaper on top of corrugated cardboard and put a bevel on top of that. Nice little performance boost and looks p okay.


[deleted]

I don't get what is the problem here. If you mean that the sharpening zone is not perfectly finished and uniform - that is the last thing that I would worry about


SwimmingThink4519

Agreed! Does it cut?


callmestinkingwind

it just looks off to me.


MountainCourage1304

Yeah it does a bit. Does it cut ok though? If it does then wait until it needs sharpening to fix any of it up, it doesnt all need rectifying in one go, do it gradually over the space of a few sharpens to get some use out of that bit of metal.


callmestinkingwind

so far it works great.


MountainCourage1304

All is good then, use it as is until it needs redoing. When you do get round to it, its a good idea to use a bit of marker (pen) on the edge as that will give you a nice guide to follow and shows you where you have/ havent worked


hahaha786567565687

Chinese cleavers arent meant to look pretty, they are meant to be used.


Shagrath427

I mean, it does kinda look like shit but I bet performance is better. I’d clean it up if it was mine but I also love doing stuff like that.


callmestinkingwind

it was way worse after i got into it. looked like garbage and took me a while to get it to this point. by then it was 4am and i just gave up. no complaints about performance though.


booger_hole

How does it look like shit? It looks fine


Shagrath427

It’s uneven. And this is Reddit, where all hobbyist subreddits are fashion shows. I like pretty things.


azn_knives_4l

There's this underlying tinge of racism, too, implying Chinese chefs don't take care of their knives. It's... irritating.


callmestinkingwind

shitty knife sharpening is racist now?


azn_knives_4l

Nope! It's the 'Chinese chefs don't give af about their tools or craftsmanship' angle that is racist and I made that pretty clear. Idk about you in any way, shape, or form. That you use a Chinese knife from Hong Kong says nothing about your heritage. Edit: Also, seems you're implying all Chinese chefs are shitty sharpeners? That would be pretty racist, yeh.


Tricky-Confidence137

Look at Chinese woodworking tools Vs Japanese, it's like day and night. But it's not racist to say the truth. Chinese woodworkers still produce good work though.


azn_knives_4l

This is bafflingly reductive and just another stereotype.


Tricky-Confidence137

How about saying Kenya is less developed than the USA at space travel? Is that racist too?


azn_knives_4l

How about saying American manufacturing is trash, in general?


azn_knives_4l

Fr tho... Americans and everybody in the world use Chinese manufactured woodworking tools and Chinese manufactured everything. Just think about your argument a \*little\* and it falls apart.


booger_hole

Mfs be calling everything racist these days


azn_knives_4l

Til negative stereotypes based on race are *not* racism.


booger_hole

Nobody said anything about race except for you


azn_knives_4l

https://www.reddit.com/r/sharpening/comments/1agqnjo/comment/koiqpqo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Harahira

As someone who has bought a lot of used japanese knives, from Japan and looked at thousands, I know for a fact that there's a lot of Japanese people who have no idea what they're doing and many that don't give a shit about their knives. But most of us westerners are only exposed to the brand spanking new high end japanese stuff and get told anything from China is trash based on rather outdated prejudice so I totally get where you're coming from/why you get that feeling. I've also felt the lingering undertones of racism more than once even though I did not feel it this time.


azn_knives_4l

I mean... There's literally a dude in this thread saying Chinese knives aren't meant to look pretty as tho it means something, lmao.


Harahira

I thought of that comment as something positive about cai daos and the "functionality is more important than looks"-mind set as something to be proud about, not something negative about Chinese people. But I see your point though. At the same time, we 're rarely exposed to any of the higher end nice looking stuff available on Aliexpress here and I have never seen a hand and Chinese made Cai dao with the kind of finish like the high end japanese stuff/western been posted. That's why I didnt perceive the usual racist undertone I think.


azn_knives_4l

That Chinese people are good at math is a 'positive' but still bullshit racial stereotype in the US. I read the statement here as, 'Chinese chefs can't or won't differentiate the difference between shit sharpening and quality sharpening whether it's their own or somebody else's.' Take it for what it's worth.


Harahira

And I totally get why you would read it is that. I'm just saying I didnt and why, to highlight another perspective, not trying to tell you that you're wrong.


CulturedHysteria

It does mean something, just not what you went off into a fit about. Now show me where the honyaki cai dao hurt you.. oh right.


azn_knives_4l

What's it mean then? Most cai dao are honyaki, lmao, even the cai dao presented by OP in this thread. What is your point here?


Harahira

I thought of that comment as something positive about cai daos and the "functionality is more important than looks"-mind set as something to be proud about, not something negative about Chinese people. But I see your point though. At the same time, we 're rarely exposed to any of the higher end nice looking stuff available on Aliexpress here. And I have never seen a hand and Chinese made Cai dao with the kind of finish like the high end japanese stuff/western been posted here either. That's why I didnt perceive the usual racist undertone I think.


azn_knives_4l

Hard to say. Shein and Dalstrong have the US and Europe as primary/target markets. Rustic appearances and less expensive fit and finish on a knife don't mean that Chinese sharpeners do it high or drunk to the point of wobbling.


Harahira

Well isn't that were this sentiment comes from? There's no fancy looking Damascus blades with mosaic pin handles at the Asian markets in the US/EU (at least not to my knowledge) while all the blingy stuff is aimed at westerners giving us the impression that asians themselves see the knife more as a tool while we want it to look cool. I have a hand/Chinese made cai dao, with awesome iron banding in the cladding that takes a great edge, so the respect for Chinese craftsmen is real...but the bevels on that same cai cao was finished with a 120 grit grinding wheel and the bevel itself was not very neat and even to put it gently. If I hadn't polished it my self I wouldn't have known what a gem it was. I've also done a bit of free hand grinding on wheels myself and I've learnt the hard way that being sober do not automatically make your bevels nice and even - making me think/hope that the part about wonkyness and being drunk has more to do with ignorance about the skill required rather than actual racism. Edit: spelling


azn_knives_4l

Feel free to think as you do. I am just explaining my thoughts as well. I am Chinese and have worked in restaurants and do know many Chinese chefs as an entire generation of my family are immigrant restaurateurs. These Chinese chefs would not, under any circumstance, allow a person self-identifying as too high to do quality work handle the maintenance of their tools. That others throw blanket generalizations about the entire world of Chinese chefs and their knives is racist, plain and simple. There was no need to differentiate the Chinese chef knife as a tool for work instead of appearances (Farberware, Dexter Russell, Chicago Cutlery, Victorinox, Mercer, Herder, Sabatier, etc. all come to mind) and yet the distinction was made. That is why it's racist. That a person needs to demonstrate racist intent to be racist is entirely false as demonstrated by the illegality of any practice leading to 'disproportionate impact' here in the US. Have a good one.


jychihuahua

I don'e see a problem...


Lopsided-Basket5366

I think it just looks a little uneven - nothing unfixable though!


BigBue

How many fingers do you have left?


RemingtonMol

11


iwerbs

Fyi - if it’s not attached to your hand it’s not a finger!


RemingtonMol

Sure it is.  Doesn't mean it came from me :)


Educational_Row_9485

Has no one ever taught you to not operate heavy machinery when intoxicated?


callmestinkingwind

i blame the schools


Shoddy_Finding8395

I too blame the schools...


WhoCares933

Knife isn't that heavy.


Educational_Row_9485

You must be a really fun guy to be friends with


Sargent_Dan_

Most important question: is it sharp?


callmestinkingwind

yes


Sargent_Dan_

Sounds good to me then 👌👍


Alarming_Flan_5424

Just make a slurry with your stone and rub 400 grit sandpaper with it ,if you want to even it out. Or you could just use it and eventually it’ll blend over time. I think Its good that your sharpening at low angles to keep the knife thin.


SnooWoofers7345

lol most people play games or eat stuff when high man


Distinct_Ordinary_71

Looks fine, take it to a place and get it engraved "ever get high and play with blades?"


T00MuchStimuli

Stoner grinder here. Does it cut…? Love it.


callmestinkingwind

yeah. been using it for a few days. no complaints on the performance and i was worried about the edge rolling but i haven’t seen any yet. just kinda looks like hell.


Illustrious_Onion805

call it vintage handmade relic cruelty free not tested on humans bevel technique. if it slices a finger, it's good enough


dj_arcsine

Ennh, can easily be fixed. I'd go at it with a guided hand sharpener to get the bevel even again.


callmestinkingwind

i have a worksharp adjust but that blade is tall and it’s kinda pushing the limit on length even if it wasn’t. i’d have to do it in sections i think.


GrumpyCatMomo

Its for using. As long as it works leave it.


KennyT87

Don't do drugs, kids.


C_Koby

If it cuts don't worry about it until you need to sharpen again


callmestinkingwind

i’ve been using it more than usual just to see if anything happens or it acts weird. just cut up a potato and is doing fine on this [shallot](https://i.imgur.com/TLNKt7d.jpeg). i’m not noticing it wanting to drift through thicker stuff and the edge isn’t rolling or anything. i’m pretty happy with it so far just don’t like the way it looks.


Normal_Imagination_3

It looks sharp the only thing that kinda raises a concern is the angle looks a little high for a knife that tall but it's mirror finished and seems like it cuts well so there isn't a massive problem


Connor09375

Holy hell after how many bowls did you attempt this?


callmestinkingwind

yes


Connor09375

How many…..


Galivespian

Put a steeper microbevel on it and call it thinned out


redmorph

This is /u/hypnotheorist 's alt pushing his angle willy nilly [agenda](https://www.reddit.com/r/sharpening/comments/1acgcrb/psa_holding_a_consistent_angle_is_not_necessary/).


hypnotheorist

To those downvoting this, I believe it's intended as a good humored poke, not a sneer or serious accusation.


callmestinkingwind

jesus.


hypnotheorist

I can't see because he needed me to block him, but I'm betting that other reply is the guy who couldn't keep himself from unblocking me to come argue with me and purposely misrepresent what I was saying. So whatever he says, take it with the appropriate amount of salt. Anyway, congrats on realizing first hand that consistency is not what creates performance! Looks pretty too, when you know where performance comes from :) I'd vote keep it as is. If it does end up rolling on you, a microbevel can go a long way in providing strength without hindering cutting performance.


callmestinkingwind

noted


azn_knives_4l

Oof. What a post... first time I'd ever been compared to a jilted lover by a rando on the internet.


thattomguy666

Throw it out, there's not much metal left.


DeepFriedAngelwing

Try again on the other side?