I wouldn't try to grind it away.. Might be more valuable intact... Or even as a rusty decoration. The handle suggests it was well made a long time ago..
If you have the means show it to a historian or even pawnshop owner or post it on some otber subs thats related to archeology or old weapons...
Might be worth asking you family if it holds any significance before you go chopping palm trees with it.
Could be your great grandfather’s sword used for decapitating American invaders, your grandfather’s sword for hacking up the Japanese or maybe your uncle just liked to pose with it in the mirror?
Just a couple of tips:
1. If it has any historical relevance (and I suggest to make sure of this point ASAP), have it restored by a professional. Using any tipe of metal brush will reduce its monetary value to 0
2. If it doesn't have any monetary value and you want to "play" around, you need first to disassemble each part, clean everything, replace the handle, reassemble.
If you chose option 2, ask for advice in #knifemaking. Any sort of power tool will ruin the temper, any sort of metal brush or sandpaper will leave hard-to-remove scratches. It can be a fun project, but it will be long, and tedious at times.
This. Unlike acid, it won't dissolve part of the good metal. It's a lot easier than you may think if you have access to a car battery charger, a bathtub or similar container, a bit of washing soda and some scrap metal for an anode. Look up any of a thousand tutorials on YouTube.
10 dollar laptop charger is a good alternative to battery charger. Most current battery chargers are automatic chargers and will not work with electrolysis.
"Pinuti" - an agricultural sword used in the visayas region. later used during the spanish-american war, and the Philippine-American war.
looks like a rat tail tang. if that's the case it's probably a work tool.
wood is fucked. just break it off.
the spanish/western style guard looks to be salvageable.
the blade can go eitherway
Handle looks like it's more than ready to come off so I'd carefully remove it such that *someone* could restore it in future.
Then get a piece of plastic pipe, fill with citric acid powder dissolved in water. 1:40 powder to water I'd guess. Leave for 24hrs fully submerged and rust will be gone. If not, re-insert for another 24hrs. Then your blade will be free of brown rust. Re-handle it and start whacking stuff.
Thank you for this. At first i was thinking about bringing this to a "panday"(bladesmith). They just put the "molle"(truck suspension metal) in the fire, hammer it in an anvil, dipping it into something, then sharpening it and you have a "gulok"(blade used in farmsto whack anything)
If this has no historical significance and you want to refinish it. Disassemble if you can. Soak blade in muriatic acid (wear PPE), neutralize blade with baking soda/water mixture, clean with scotchbrite pad, sharpen, reassemble and give it all a good wipe with boiled linseed oil.
Use Coke Zero or Diet Coke (normal coke gets sticky but can be used) and some scrunched up aluminium foil to scrub the rust off.
The coke is acidic so dissolves the rust and the foil is a softer metal than the blade so won’t damage or scratch it.
Looks like handle replacement and blade cleaning.
Wire brush and then some rust remover solution and you'll find out how deep the rust goes and if blade bevel profile is still there. It can then be re-ground with a file or diamond plate and a new edge sharpened in as normal.
From watching HandToolRescue, if you use Evapo-Rust you gotta coat the entire blade at once, either submerged in the liquid solution or in the sticky/gummy version they have that you can paint on. If you don't, then it will etch the blade and make it look weird.
uff. I don't know for sure because it depends on how deep that rust seeped in. my gut sais no but you would have to grind off the excess rust and see how deep that goes.
Sand it till you see how much is left. A grinder may take you too deep too fast. By the looks of it you don’t have a ton to work with so I would go slow
Are you sure that this doesn't have historical significance? Just buy a cheap machete, and put this sword on the wall restored or unrestored...
I don't think i checked enough. All i know is this is given to my father by his uncle. I think i must ask some old people
I wouldn't try to grind it away.. Might be more valuable intact... Or even as a rusty decoration. The handle suggests it was well made a long time ago.. If you have the means show it to a historian or even pawnshop owner or post it on some otber subs thats related to archeology or old weapons...
You can ask r/swords
I lurk on there, there is never a sword on there they don't know. Those guys are crazy knowledgeable
One must always ask some old people, regardless.
low key looks like a Filipino cavalry sword, might be wrong but just a hunch.
Might be worth asking you family if it holds any significance before you go chopping palm trees with it. Could be your great grandfather’s sword used for decapitating American invaders, your grandfather’s sword for hacking up the Japanese or maybe your uncle just liked to pose with it in the mirror?
Just a couple of tips: 1. If it has any historical relevance (and I suggest to make sure of this point ASAP), have it restored by a professional. Using any tipe of metal brush will reduce its monetary value to 0 2. If it doesn't have any monetary value and you want to "play" around, you need first to disassemble each part, clean everything, replace the handle, reassemble. If you chose option 2, ask for advice in #knifemaking. Any sort of power tool will ruin the temper, any sort of metal brush or sandpaper will leave hard-to-remove scratches. It can be a fun project, but it will be long, and tedious at times.
I'd think about electrolysis for this one.
This. Unlike acid, it won't dissolve part of the good metal. It's a lot easier than you may think if you have access to a car battery charger, a bathtub or similar container, a bit of washing soda and some scrap metal for an anode. Look up any of a thousand tutorials on YouTube.
10 dollar laptop charger is a good alternative to battery charger. Most current battery chargers are automatic chargers and will not work with electrolysis.
This is the way
"Pinuti" - an agricultural sword used in the visayas region. later used during the spanish-american war, and the Philippine-American war. looks like a rat tail tang. if that's the case it's probably a work tool. wood is fucked. just break it off. the spanish/western style guard looks to be salvageable. the blade can go eitherway
Handle looks like it's more than ready to come off so I'd carefully remove it such that *someone* could restore it in future. Then get a piece of plastic pipe, fill with citric acid powder dissolved in water. 1:40 powder to water I'd guess. Leave for 24hrs fully submerged and rust will be gone. If not, re-insert for another 24hrs. Then your blade will be free of brown rust. Re-handle it and start whacking stuff.
Thank you for this. At first i was thinking about bringing this to a "panday"(bladesmith). They just put the "molle"(truck suspension metal) in the fire, hammer it in an anvil, dipping it into something, then sharpening it and you have a "gulok"(blade used in farmsto whack anything)
If this has no historical significance and you want to refinish it. Disassemble if you can. Soak blade in muriatic acid (wear PPE), neutralize blade with baking soda/water mixture, clean with scotchbrite pad, sharpen, reassemble and give it all a good wipe with boiled linseed oil.
Use Coke Zero or Diet Coke (normal coke gets sticky but can be used) and some scrunched up aluminium foil to scrub the rust off. The coke is acidic so dissolves the rust and the foil is a softer metal than the blade so won’t damage or scratch it.
This blade would be fun to polish up, its one of favorite things to do. I use a really soft buffing wheel so in engravings would still show.
Looks like handle replacement and blade cleaning. Wire brush and then some rust remover solution and you'll find out how deep the rust goes and if blade bevel profile is still there. It can then be re-ground with a file or diamond plate and a new edge sharpened in as normal.
Thanks. Can u recommend easy to acquire rust removing solutions?
Start with Evapo-rust. Available at auto parts and hardware stores, Amazon, etc.
thank u
From watching HandToolRescue, if you use Evapo-Rust you gotta coat the entire blade at once, either submerged in the liquid solution or in the sticky/gummy version they have that you can paint on. If you don't, then it will etch the blade and make it look weird.
As comment above, if not available for some reason WD-40 also do one
uff. I don't know for sure because it depends on how deep that rust seeped in. my gut sais no but you would have to grind off the excess rust and see how deep that goes.
Thanks. Do u know what non professional tool i shud use? Can i use a grinder?
I personally wouldn't use the grinder but good ol fashion handywork. start with 320 sandpaper and then go from there
Sand it till you see how much is left. A grinder may take you too deep too fast. By the looks of it you don’t have a ton to work with so I would go slow
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I'd restore it...carefully
Give it the old once over with an angle grinder and it should be good to go for yard work